/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

You don't draw.

>>7162142
>Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.

>>7162153
>ancient webm

How do you get used to drawing on glass displays? I don't want to get a matte screen protector or titanium nib, is it just something you get used to?

>>7161876
lot of people will tape a piece of paper over their screenless tablet to get more resistance. you don't really have to worry about protecting your screenless tablet otherwise

Recommend me things to buy now that I have an S9 Ultra
Got the wacom one pen on the way

>>7162299
Staedtler Noris Jumbo

>ruining your iPad by putting a matte screen protector on it

>>7162320
i got a magnetic one so i can take it off when i want to actually use the screen for something other than drawing

If we're talking cheap, like under $80 cheap, new screenless tablets, are XP-Pen and Huion the best option? I feel like there's no avoiding chinkshit at this price point, Wacom is just too expensive for what they offer.

>>7162329
yes. their screenless tablets are literally just as good as wacom.

Do I need to pay attention to anything when buying a tablet as a lefthanded?

>>7162153
Eh my cheap ass £90 xp artist 10 2nd gen tablet is fine though. The only issue is that it eats pen nips.

>>7162398
>it eats pen nibs
Isn't that the case with all tablets?

>>7162321
What are the magnetic ones like? Do you get line wobble when drawing a slow diagonal line?

>>7162398
Might be due to the screen protector I bought, luckily it came woth a lot of nibs.

>>7162402
Eh not really at least not as fast. My screenless xp pen tablet is still going fine and isn't giga grinded in.

>>7162412

Reposting >>7162372 because I didn't see it was the old thread
>want to draw for my friends from time to time, just planning to do shit for fun and not much else
>want to draw planes and cars, but without a tablet, my only real option is to just take a screenshot and trace over it with paths
What should I buy? I don't need anything incredible, this is all just for fun.

>>7162501
an iPad pro

>>7162501
magic drawing pad

>>7162501
Refurbished iPad.
The s series Samsungs are ok but get the highest end model 8 gen 2/8gen 3 if you don’t want lag, the other ones even the tab s9 fe is slower than the base a14 iPad

Does anybody here use a Wacom One with the OpenTabletDriver instead of the Wacom one? I'm having issues setting it up, what are the ideal plugins/settings for art?

>>7162180
It just takes some time getting used to it but it's never gonna feel like traditional if that's what you mean

>>7162501
depending on your budget:
>s6 lite
>s9 fe+ / magic drawing pad
>m2 ipad air

i'll consider the ipad pro if i can get away with it being a standalone device (art plus general needs)

my current comfort zone is windows, primarily for excel/word and clip studio 2.0 (no subscription)
I don't really game on tablets

How is excel on ipad?
how is the official keyboard + trackpad for ipad?

Bought an s6 lite, I like it so far but, I’m worried about the nib run down. Do I buy a cheap replacement on Amazon? Stupid question, should I use a screen protector?

>>7163139
is it lagging?

>>7163139
The nibs are designed to be replaceable, Samsung is just kikey and doesn't include any replacement nibs
If you really want to avoid replacing the nib then you could always get a titanium nib

>>7163139
the rubber tip that comes with the S Pen is very hard to wear down against the bare glass surface of the tablet
once it does wear down you only really have two options, either the staedtler noris digital replacement nibs or wacom elastomer nibs, both are priced about the same so try both and see which one you like best

>>7163251
What is the difference? I suppose the elastormer are going to feel more, gum like, than the original on the s pen?

>>7163257
No the elastomer still isn't as rubbery as the original but it's the closest thing feel wise. The staedtler noris nibs are also slightly rubberized.

i hate waiting for my new ipad
i just want my rotating brushes nigga

I got a Wacom Intuos S
What would be the recommended drawing softwares to get for it?

>>7163476
I would recommend returning that tiny piece of shit and using a pencil and some paper

>>7163194
Not really, it has happened once or twice but not noticeable for me to stop working. I’ll update if it becomes an issue later.
>>7163249
Does that scratch the screen?
>>7163251
Does it just automatically connect like the s pen does?

screen tablets are overcomplicating drawing. you shouldn't be thinking about UI or rotating your stylus, buttons, etc. just draw on paper and then scan and clean up, edit, color with a screenless. that process is easier because the drawing and concept are already done.
all that screen is good for is tracing.

>>7163555
shut the fuck up

>>7163555
Trad is only good for the style.

>>7163479
I have notebooks, pencils and paper and stuff but the tablet is for when I'm on my pc and otherwise unoccupied. My pc desk rn doesn't really accommodate me drawing on it until I get a larger desk.

>>7163578
>>7163582
mega cope from the both of you traditional art looks better than 99% of digital art work

>>7163578
>>7163582
i'm done trying to help. seriorsly, fuck these place. god let these children rot in their delusions.

>>7163690
You can offer helpful advice and those who listen will take it while those who disagree will say so. Simple enough. No one has a name and no one will miss you. But what you just said gave me second hand embarrassment.

>>7163690
>>7163673
>durrr too many buttuns me dumb dumb no can handle to complykatet
shut the fuck up retards

>>7163555
>open your software of choice
>pick an a4/a3 canvas size
>paint/draw
Real complicated there boomer-kun
Nobody's forcing you to fuck around with layers and layer effects or filters etc. you can literally just paint and draw on one single layer like you do in your precious traditional ways but knowing that would require you to not be stupid I suppose.
Don't bother blabbering on about how le trad is so superior or whatever, both have their uses you're just a fucking moron.

>>7163555
Beyond retarded take. Use pencil tool and stick to one moderate brush size and you have removed every one of the 'drawbacks' you've claimed against digital tools. All the while gaining the convenience and customizability needed to create art exactly the way that you want to make it. Plus, using a display removes the layer of complexity of having your hand and eye in different places -- screenless > display only in price and is not better in any other way.

Also, just as an fyi, saying 'fuck this place' and storming off as soon as someone disagrees is something you do when you're a little bitch. Might wanna work on that.

How do you deal with palm rejection?? I keep smudging my art.

>>7163758
What do you mean? It just werks on my s9 ultra

>>7163724
yeah buddy its an issue with the buttons and not how the art looks keep coping

>>7163793
you're the one coping because apparently you're too retarded to use a simple program and make your shit look how you want
literally a braindead ape is what you are

>>7163855
im not talking about your weird furry drawings you can do that all you want digitally im talking about actual art that will be remembered

>>7163858
ok boomer

>>7163864
t. smartest zoomer

how do you even have internet in the assisted living facility?

>>7163868
yeah I need assisted living you cant even reply properly

>>7162398
behold, the tiniest pen display known to man

What's the best software for an Apple tablet that's free? I've heard procreate is the best there is but I need something free. I've used paint tool Sai my whole life and I'm currently stuck with an apple tablet as my only alternative to digital art and I know nothing about using them as I've used Wacom and Huion my whole life and I want to draw digitally in a situation where I only have access to an apple tablet atm

just dug out my Bosto from the closet

>>7164009
use clip studio paint in doodle mode and just screencap your art if you want to post it anywhere.

>>7164025
Now go draw, draw fellow anon...

What's the difference between Huion Kamvas 22 and Huion Kamvas Pro 22?

>>7164192
Pro means expensiverer

is a matte screen protector necessary for ipads? feels like it would just make it closer to paper

>>7164222
>closer to paper
That's the point

>>7164231
why though? paper is shit

>>7164233
It's all preference, anon

>>7163933
10.1 inches. It would be nicer if it had less bezel, but it was £90, extremely cheap. Windows honestly works fine at that size. Honestly 11/12 inches or over feels excessive, my iPad feels huge to use.

sorry just realised i posted in the dead thread;
An M2 iPad Air would be better than an old M2 Pro right?
The advantages of the new pencil outweigh the 'worse' screen?

>>7163858
what the fuck do you know about "art that's going to be remembered"
you honestly think anybody is going to give a single fuck about your gay futa homo shit you paint on your canvas?
stupid fucking coping nigger

>>7164550
>gay futa homo shit
no thats what you what digital artists draw sorry hope that helps

deco pro mw gen 1 or 2? gen 1 is 2 inches bigger, but i guess i could buy gen 2 lw if i really wanted those 2 inches

Huion Kamvas 22 Pro
Huion Kamvas 22 Plus
Which one is better? I can only find people comparing different models but of different sizes, which doesn't make any sense

>>7165337
Both are complete garbage.

>>7165471
Found the Wacom apologist.

>muh real art
why are artfags like this

>>7165471
pyw

>>7162153
Old new

>>7166546
Wacom has always been a shit company that's insanely greedy but still make the best drawing tablets, not news

Does applying a screen protector to an iPad always result in a little bit of line wobble? I know it's a big problem if you use a glass screen protector, but even with a magnetic matte one I'm noticing a bit more wobble compared to drawing directly on the glass surface. Even drawing directly has a little bit of wobble when drawing slow lines.

>>7164552
cope harder retarded boomer
also nice of you to completely ignore the rest of the post faggot I guess you know that I'm right and that your worthless art won't be remembered by anybody at all delusional monkey

is Xiaomi Pad 6 good?

>>7166816
I never said my art would be remembered learn to read hope that helps

I’ve used iPad Pro, but finding info for it is very infuriating because of all the apple cocksuckers. All they talk about is how “sleek” and “chic” the new models are when they look the god damned same for the last decade.
All I want to know is if the new standard iPad or the new air is on par with the pro for drawing in procreate?

>>7166728
You can always turn up the stabilizer in procreate or csp. In my experience the lines are always a bit wobbly both with or without screen protectors. My procreate brushes tend to have between 5-10% stabilization just to remove the tiny wobbles.

Is not having pen tilt on a screen tablet a big deal breaker this days? Found a used one on a tight budget.

>>7167239
Which stabilizer setting? There are like three of them.

>>7167235
> All I want to know is if the new standard iPad or the new air is on par with the pro for drawing in procreate?
They still have the 60 hertz so eh. And they are less color accurate than the oled but not by much.
The m2 iPad will perform almost the same as the m4 iPad Pro, they have the same ram too and storage. Overall you shouldn’t be worried too much between those too. The air is more than enough.

The normal iPad though has some issues, it has a non laminated display, 4 gigs of ram and only 64gb of storage and a worse screen than the iPad Air.

When drawing on the base IPad you will be fine but if you want to animate you might as well go for the air as 4gb of ram might not be enough.

Though the processor isn’t bad, it is faster than the Samsung galaxy tab s9 fe. Like double as fast. And those Samsung tablets especially the the s6 lite is quite slow. Samsung cheapens out on the chipsets too much.

which wacom pens do you have? which do you use? I am in the market for buying the art pen because of pic related. if you use the art pen yourself, how do you use it and which software?

>>7167360
failed to upload barrel roll

>>7167272
I’m told that 60Hz is still fine for drawing, but I’ll stand corrected
I have no idea what the implications of laminated screen are - does the new Aur lack this?
Combos has posted first impressions of the Pro and it does seem tempting

I still want to see what the next Surface Pro is gonna be like

>>7167393
Colbow not combos, fuck
And Air not Aur obvs

>>7167393
120hz is more of a really nice bonus than a critical feature for drawing. Nice but I can live without it. Same with the hover but now that the air has it might as well use it. Honestly, the size is what got me excited. I got a pro over an air just because the 12.9 size feels great. And yeah, the past 3 gens of air have laminated screens. THAT is an important feature for drawing imo, and that's sorted so no worries there.

All that said, look for secondhand if possible. If you value the 120hz screen, you can quite literally get last gen pro for the same or less than a brand new air.

>bro just pay 5x the price for a wacom bro it's soooo worth it

>>7167409
I might await a consensus to emerge on old Pro vs new Air.
Maybe I’m silly but the idea of buying tech second hand feels icky to me. I also recall the sites recommended here were not applicable to the Australian market

>>7164130
If you're still here anon thank you for the advice this is working out great CSP is nice to work in

>>7167467
Ah yeah fair. I recommended swappa in another thread once but not everyone is in the US. And I do think used stuff is a lot better value. Sometimes it's a scam, but most of the time it's like 99% new minus a couple scrapes on the corner or something.
Either way, I think there's no way you'll be underwhelmed. This kind of flagship tech has become more powerful than you'll ever realistically need them to be anyway.

>>7167498
Is 128GB iPad enough for an art machine?

i haven’t drawn before but I got a new ipad pro and apple pencil pro and they should arrive tomorrow and I’m so excited to start drawing with them what’s the best app for drawing?

>>7167517
CSP

>>7167505
128 is plenty if it's primarily an art machine. 64 is kinda pushing it but 128 absolutely will do. That's a LOT of reference pictures. I'd really only recommend 256 and above if you're also into other kinds of creative works like audio and video. Mine's 256 because I do audio for work and my art related files don't even take up a quarter of that yet.

>>7167518
I prefer once off purchases to subscriptions when it comes to art software

>>7167596
arr put on ye hat me matey

What's worse, an XP pen 15 inch with no pen tilt, or a 13 inch pro but has pen tilt?
Note that Clip Studio for PC's version of simple mode is clunkier.

>>7167718
pen tilt is a meme

>>7167596
That ended a decade ago, suck it up and pay the $25 a year.

>>7167517
>spends $1500 to draw
>can't afford procreate
>won't pay for csp the best drawing program
Go doodle on a $300 used samsung phone 3rd worlder.

>>7168321
>mmm tasty corpo cock

>>7168316
not everyone shits money, you fucking onanistic american pig
>>7167718
Chinese motherfucker
>>7168321
either a female or tranny, definitely if you were a male you wouldn't be this pretentious, kill yourself
>>7168328
the taxes that should go for the improvement of at least the health care, goes to give mentally ill trannies and foids who don't work for shit their monthly paycheck
But the oppressive patriarch-ack!

>>7168316
Clip Studio 2.0 can be bought once off on windows
Procreate as I understand is also once off

>>7168328
>buys an itoy
>complains about corpos

>>7168486
I'm not the apple guy. Besides, physical hardware can be rooted/jailbroken/whatever. Software subs are Schwabbcore so excuse me while I arrrr.

>>7168329
>25$ a year
>shitting money
bro you're just unemployed

Is Huion actually bad or is the OP just schizo babble? Kamvas 12 fits my under 200 dollar budget and looks good.

Just bought one by wacom small as my first tablet. What am I in for?

>>7168664
>200 dollar budget
get a job

>>7168664
op doesn't draw

Opinions on the Huion Kamvas Studio 24?
I want to eventually replace my Wacom Companion 2 and I like the Idea of a huge tablet

>bought a cheap Staedtler Noris Digital Jumbo 180J 22 pen
>says it works with a Wacom One
>I have a Wacom One so should be good
>doesnt work
>the fuck
>woops no actually I have the One by Wacom which is not the same as a Wacom One
I sincerely really fucking hate the dogshit naming by Wacom already, great way to make shit complicated for no good reason

>>7169096
Perhaps you should consider checking screenless vs screen next time

>>7169099
Perhaps those retarded gooks can use multiple names for their newer and older devices instead of one (no pun intended)

>>7169102
but then you wont accidentally buy the wrong thing

>>7167235
Apple has always been for people who wanted to look like they're working.

>>7169106
Alright memes aside just to clarify, which one of these is meant to be "the Wacom One"

>>7169138
Both use the same tech, both work with the same pens, pictured in your picture

Anyone have any clue why my second monitor does this when I plug in my display tablet? And how do I make it stop?

>>7169438
don't dox yourself Leo, are you in Iceland?

>>7168561
lmfao wage cuck you have no right to exist

So any of you kiddies have your parents buy you the new ipad pro to doodle your animays cartoon pics?

is there a way to avoid sweating all over the screen? i swap gloves every 30 minutes and i'm still wetting it, god i hate summer so much

>>7170654
what kinda gloves are you wearing bro
I wear drawing gloves even when not drawing at my computer nowadays (sensory stuff) and never sweat in them even though I'm pretty sweaty otherwise, maybe you just have naturally sweaty hands

Fuck apple so hard man
I walked past a best buy earlier so I went in to see the new ipads for myself
The new pen feels nice, the haptics are great. The etched glass screen is pretty good too.
But goddamn I am not spending money just to upgrade to this. And I know they could have made the new pen backwards compatible. I know they could've just not paywalled this nano texture shit. But of course they won't, because they're fucking apple.

>>7162357
Please respond

Is it alright to draw directly on ipad screen without any sort of screen protector?

>>7170707
Worth it for the rotation.

>>7171009
yeah, I'm just so pissed that theu're not even trying to hide it with the
>oh it only works with the New Product and you're gonna have to buy it again because uhhh thats just how it is okay
This is the same shit they pulled with the hover being only on the m2 pro

>>7171009
>>7171049
By succumbing to this shit you are only perpetuating the cycle.

>>7171054
Oh no, don't worry I am not buying this shit. If I do, it'll be years down the line, and I'll buy it used on ebay or something.

>device-exclusive cable I was using went under(huion 3-in-one cable and power outlet)
>mfw looking at delivery time its gonna take the same as buying anything new since its straight out ching-chong land

Anyway how's the kamvas 20? Considering going for that one since its an upgrade over my current one(kamvas 16) and weirdly shares a similar price in my country's amazon store

Also what do you do with old but working tablets? Selling sounds like a hassle but throwing it away seems like a waste of good electronics

why is apple pencil so damn heavy? it's nothing like the traditional wooden pencil. i have a hard time adjusting. i liked the wacom one a lot more.
why do people praise it so much?

>>7171707
Bitch, do you even lift?

>>7171817
more than you probably.
when you draw fine lines, you'd typically hold close to the tip (hence the pen grip products). that creates an inverse lever, opposite of what you'd want if you were to hold an object, especially for precision work. so the pen feels different depending on where you hold.
traditional pens and pencils and to some degree wacom pens (because they don't have a battery inside) don't have that problem.
apple pencil is trash and i'm willing to die on that hill.

bro needs a diagram to explain why he can't hold 21 grams

for me, ipad air 2 and procreate work just fine.
>pens and nibs
i use my middle finger as a pen. for some reason i have better control with a finger than a pen for digital. the fuckin wobble, man...my finger is so much steadier. saves me money, too. $80 for a fuckin pen and less control...
try your finger first, then worry about pens.

>>7171837
Exactly! That’s three times the weight of a pencil. Can you hold three pencils at once? I sure can’t.

do you need a table to draw on a smaller tablet like galaxy tab or ipad or can you do it handheld

>>7172069
i hold my s9 ultra kinda like a clipboard like pic related but in landscape mode sometimes, it gets tiring if you just use your arm but you can also brace it against your chest and that's comfortable for longer, downside being you have to crane your neck

>>7165337
In this case, the better choice between Huion Kamvas 22 Pro and Kamvas 22 Plus depends on your priorities:

Huion Kamvas 22 Pro:

Pros: Might be slightly cheaper depending on deals.
Cons: Older model (released in 2019), potentially less refined pen technology, possibly not fully laminated display (which can cause parallax).
Huion Kamvas 22 Plus:

Pros: Newer model (released later), likely improved pen performance, fully laminated display for better drawing experience, wider color gamut (140% vs 120%) for richer colors, simpler 3-in-1 cable connection.
Cons: More expensive. Lacks the programmable buttons on the side found on the Kamvas 22 Pro.
Here's a quick recommendation:

Choose Kamvas 22 Plus if: You prioritize the latest display technology, better color accuracy, and a smoother drawing experience. The simpler cable management might also be a plus.
Choose Kamvas 22 Pro if: You're on a tight budget and don't mind a potentially older pen or a slight parallax gap. The programmable buttons might be useful for shortcuts.
Ultimately, reading reviews and watching comparison videos can help you make an informed decision based on your specific needs.

>>7172114
Let me guess, you need more?

>>7172114
Hello Pawell

If a no-display tablet has no hardware buttons can you set gestures for undo like f.e. double tap with two fingers?

>>7172125
they're not touch screens, they can only read inputs from the stylus

>>7172083
is it comfy to draw in bed?

I have the microsoft surface pro 5 tablet, what sort of pen should I get to start using for drawing?

thanks in advance

>>7172144
I almost exclusively draw in bed. While high on drugs. One or both of those factors fucks with my ability to perspective. Although I am a permaprebeg.

So the Samsung equivalent of an iPad pro is the Galaxy tab s9?
Having Wacom tech built in seems too good to be true, what’s the catch?
Did android ever get an equivalent of procreate?

>>7171837
that's 7 times as heavy as wacom/huion/xp-pens, which are just 3 grams! that's a really big difference no one is talking about.

>>7172468
>Wacom pro pen 2: 17 grams
>Huion PW517: 16 grams
>Xp-Pen PA2: 13.5 grams

Let's assume those 3 are weightless though, that means it's infinite times heavier at... a whopping 21 grams!

>>7172443
>>Having Wacom tech built in seems too good to be true, what’s the catch?
You have to buy your own Wacom One Pen I guess?

>>7172518
There's however an argument to be made on where most of that weight is located. If it's close to the tip, then it's not a big deal, but the apple pen seems to have a lot of that weight on the back

>>7172550
Adapt and survive I guess. Pretty sure any tattooist has to deal with more weight on the back of their inking devices

>>7172443
I just read the tab s9 is 10.9”.
Don’t people complain about the 11” iPad being “too small”?

>>7172586
The ultra is 14.6, which is almost too much and the Plus is 12.4

What's a better upgrade from my Tab S6 lite, an M1 Ipad pro 11" or a Galaxy S9? I can get either for the sameish price but im having trouble making a decision

>>7172518
i'm SO glad i bought the XP-Pen

>>7170707
>could've just not paywalled this nano texture shit
Bro just use paperlike, the nanotexture stuff is a meme anyway that isn't really meant for artists.
And the pen is due to the camera change, you cannot charge the old apple pencil with it.

>>7168329
>not everyone shits money, you fucking onanistic american pig
You spent money on the m4 iPad pro and pencil Pro, and you are literally say nah I can't spend £10 on an app.
If you like ads use mediabang or ibis paint, they have their own paid apps which are just £10 each.

>>7173015
Looking back I do agree with you on the matte screen protectors but I'm still pissed about the pencil pro thing. Not being able to use the pencil 2 on the new ipads is one thing but surely the new pencil should be able to work with the older ipads that use pencil 2. Or even at the very least release a pencil 2 with the haptics for older models, I'd buy that.

>>7173094
>apple
>doing anything to benefit the user
>ever
you're barking up the wrong tree pal