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/dtg/ - Drawing Technology General Anonymous Mon Dec 4 19:06:02 2023 No.6964672 [Reply] [Original]

Winter is coming edition

This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardware.

Recommended tablets:
>Pen tablets (non display)
Wacom Intuos pro
Huion Inspiroy
Xencelab Pen Tablet
XP Pen Deco (v2 if you can afford it)

>Display tablets
Wacom Cintiq pro
Huion Kamvas plus/pro
XP-Pen Artist
Xencelab Pen display

>Mobile tablets
Apple iPad Pro
Samsung Galaxy Tab
Surface Pro 8/9
Kanvas studio
Wacom mobile studio

>What tablets does /dtg/ use?
https://strawpoll.com/polls/NoZrLOmrDn3

>General guidelines when picking a tablet:
- All of the recommended models are part of large lines with multiple sizes/generations available. Buy the biggest/newest in your budget. Medium-Large pen tablets or 16-24" display tablets are considered the sweet spot by most artists.
- If you don't see a tablet you're interested in listed, ask about it. This isn't a definitive list, just one to give you an idea where to start looking.
- Avoid Chinese tablets 4+ years old or made by literally who brands like gaomon, ugee, parblo, etc. They were generally dogshit, and the reason Wacom had a monopoly for so many years. Newer models from huion and xp-pen are much better.
- Wacom is still the industry standard, but they're overpriced and a lot of pros abd studios are switching. Chinese brands have mostly caught up in the past few years and will provide a near identical user experience for a fraction of the price.

>Display Calibration tools:
https://www.eizo.be/monitor-test/
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/icc_profiles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avJTz1JhkR4 [Open] [Open]
(Use this guide to roughly calibrate your display if you don't want to invest hundreds into a colorimeter you'll only use a few times)

Previous thread: >>6943123

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 19:12:56 2023 No.6964686 File: 82 KB, 500x714, IMG_0031.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I need your strongest procreate brushes

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 19:22:10 2023 No.6964694 So does the apple pencil gen 2 really make that big of a difference compared to the 1st one? What makes gen 2 better?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 19:26:28 2023 No.6964699 >>6964694 looks nicer, charges faster. dont have to insert it like sexual object into your ipad

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 20:14:01 2023 No.6964766

>>6964694
Assuming you put it away on the iPad after using it every time, you never have to worry about remembering to charge it. There were several times when I had a 1st gen pro that I forgot to assfuck my ipad with the pencil before putting it away and had to wait for my pencil to charge before I could draw.
Also with it comes the 3rd gen and later pro which means reduced bezel so all modern screen protectors and cases* will fit, and it has usb c instead of lightning cable.

*cases will be slightly different because of the camer module changing, but they should still fit

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 20:24:42 2023 No.6964780 Has anyone used the first and second gen XP Pen artist pro 15.6/16? I'm thinking of upgrading

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 21:48:28 2023 No.6964863

>>6957584
Wow the 17 pro isn’t really that much bigger than the iPP12.9. Been looking at the 17 as a portable replacement for my iPP but might actually go bigger and keep it at home. Took me 10 years to get to the point where I could do pro work on the iPP, thanks to Clip Studio. Just a little cramped.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 21:52:21 2023 No.6964867

>>6964694
Actually prefer the weight off the Pencil1, the 2 feels too light in my hand and the surface they used feels more slippery. Took forever to get used to it. The mag charging is better but it limits which protective cases you can get. I like this adjustable clamp stand but it blocks where the pencil would charge.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 22:55:56 2023 No.6964929

>>6964863
>Just a little cramped.
Galaxy s8/s9 ultra, mobilestudio pro 16, or kamvas studio 16 will fix the cramped feeling. A few inches doesn't sound like a lot, but it really does feel substantial in real world use. For a desktop display, I would personally recommend 22/24".

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 23:54:54 2023 No.6964980

>>6947626
Update: This works really well just like my tabmate. Like with all things though, it will take a bit to get used to. Using it with procrate feels awkward without a hand tool because my other hand is holding the controller rather than just on the screen. But for CSP, it's really good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 00:54:51 2023 No.6965033 >>6964980 what is it? just 7 buttons and a scroll wheel? or are the "shoulder" buttons modifiers?

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 01:00:50 2023 No.6965041

>>6965033
The Q1/Q2 trigger buttons activate more keys. Pressing both of them will give an additional 8. So it's 32 keys in total. Downside is I used the trigger on my tabmate as the spacebar and I can't mod the Q keys just for 1 shortcut. The trigger button on the tabmate for me was mostly a "stress" button and tying it to the spacebar helped as I hold the remote for long periods.

But again, it's just going to take a bit of getting used to.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 01:15:18 2023 No.6965067 >>6965041 >So it's 32 keys in total oh that's pretty good then do the modifiers work on the scroll wheel too so you could do like zoom, q1 for rotate, q2 for brush size?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 01:24:57 2023 No.6965080 >>6965067 Yes, you can edit the up/down on the scroll wheel. That includes a Q1/Q2/Q1&Q2 press.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 04:30:28 2023 No.6965264
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probably sounds dumb as hell, but are there any protectors/screens for non-screen tablets that give the drawing surface more texture? my current tablets surface makes it feel like i'm drawing on freaking ice

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 04:38:06 2023 No.6965269 >>6965264 have you tried a sheet of printer paper already? There are protectors intended for OSU you could give a shot as well. some anon mentioned using cereal box cardboard in the previous thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 05:08:16 2023 No.6965314 >>6965269 i'll try that paper method and look into the osu stuff, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 06:18:29 2023 No.6965382 my hand is dragging pretty badly on my drawing tablet despite me using an art glove. any advice to fix this? I've tried printer paper which worked but it gave way too much resistance on the nibs I'm using.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 06:25:41 2023 No.6965384 File: 336 KB, 1024x920, 1681440359243164.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wanna draw on my tablet in bed

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 08:17:17 2023 No.6965478 >>6965384 Then get an iPad pro

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:04:30 2023 No.6965674 >>6965478 I have a Samsung

>>	LMFAO Tue Dec 5 14:13:46 2023 No.6965681 >>6965264 foxbox.io

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 20:54:45 2023 No.6966308 >>6965681 im not paying 20 bucks for a fucking sheet of plastic

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 20:58:48 2023 No.6966315 >>6966308 You'd rather spend $120 for a screen repair.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:04:15 2023 No.6966326 >>6966315 a... screen repair? what the fuck are you doing to it? banging it against a knife? and how would that sheet of plastic protect agains that? show me ONE example of damage that can be avoided using that glorified anime sticker

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:12:11 2023 No.6966338 >>6966326 Scratches, galaxy brain. Especially if you want to sell your tablet down the line.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:12:19 2023 No.6966339 >>6966326 Anon was asking for a cover to add texture That's exactly what the product is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:14:28 2023 No.6966351 >>6966308 You can always get one from aliexpress or whatever but they're honestly not much cheaper and take an absolute age to ship

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:22:04 2023 No.6966375 >>6966351 I heard foxbox takes fucking forever too, like 1-2 months

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:32:07 2023 No.6966407

>>6966280
>posting here too
>The book mentions the benefits of the overhand grip and emphasizes better control of the line sharpness and the "graining" technique or whatever (picrel). Is it possible to emulate that on a tablet?
I think that would fall under full arm use as well. It's easier to push straights and pull curves (exceptions apply when necessary) if you're using your whole arm and that pen holding technique makes your wrist more stable which just forces you to use your whole harm.

The graining, though, I'm not sure. I'm not an expert with tablet. Probably has to do with a combination of the tablet itself, it's pressure-sensing, and a particular brush in a specific program made to emulate that. I think Rebel might have something like that built in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:33:08 2023 No.6966409 I'm not made of money. Is the XP-Pen 13.3 Pro alright for $190?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 23:41:46 2023 No.6966657 I stick with CSP but Rebelle looks interesting. Is it worth it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 23:54:24 2023 No.6966684 >>6966409 no 16 inch is the minimum anything less is meme tier for a display tablet and you will regret it

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:31:41 2023 No.6966745 >>6966684 >16 inch is the minimum well since i need to keep price in mind which brands should i absolutely not get?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:34:15 2023 No.6966751 >>6966745 stick with huion, xp pen, or wacom. MAYBE ugee.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:36:29 2023 No.6966755 >>6966751 what about xcense or however it's spelled? from my understanding it's somewhere between huion and wacom in quality?

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:43:32 2023 No.6966765

>>6966755
xencelab (pronounced like sense lab) is a company that was founded by former wacom employees. Their stuff is pretty good, but also pretty expensive. cheaper than wacom, but I still don't see a reason to get their stuff huion or xp pen, especially since they're both starting to come with more premium features like wide color gamuts and etched glass displays.

also if I'm not mistaken, xencelab (and xp pen) are both owned by the hanvon-ugee group.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:48:30 2023 No.6966775 >>6966765 ah, alright. appreciate the info. i guess i can shell out for a kamvas 16. amazon has them for $280 right now. probably as good as it'll get

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 02:15:11 2023 No.6966902 What's a good scanner? I don't need a printer, so no two-in-one shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 02:26:08 2023 No.6966912 >>6966902 budget?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 02:36:39 2023 No.6966936 >>6966912 Roughly $70-$120 tops, if possible.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 02:48:04 2023 No.6966953 >>6966936 canon LiDE 400 or epson v39 are probably the best budget friendly scanners assuming you don't need to scan A3

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 03:44:35 2023 No.6966995 >>6966953 Can the Epson handle A4?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 04:15:02 2023 No.6967026 >>6966995 Yeah, both are a4 scanners

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 04:18:22 2023 No.6967029 >>6967026 The listing I saw said the Canon is only 7.4in. A4 is 8in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 04:23:54 2023 No.6967036 File: 188 KB, 1440x924, Screenshot_20231205_212019.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6967029

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 19:50:38 2023 No.6967886 To anyone with the current gen iPad pro, is the hover cursor important for you? If you used previous models, is seeing the cursor a game changer?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 20:52:33 2023 No.6967980 >>6967886 >is seeing the cursor a game changer? no.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 02:26:58 2023 No.6968390 Are there any good Christmas deals on tablets? Hoping to get an artist pro 16 gen 2

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 06:21:09 2023 No.6968635 File: 622 KB, 1000x1000, 0e249417a69021623982b60852673514.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6968390 you're in luck 'cuz it's on sale right now

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 13:17:01 2023 No.6968886 >>6968635 Oh shit thanks Where is that? Is that their official store?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 20:24:35 2023 No.6969316 >>6968886 yes sometimes you're better to buy from 3rd party places like Amazon in case you get a lemon though

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 08:26:11 2023 No.6969864 >>6966765 thanks again. huion 16 (2021) showed up today. felt an improvement after 10 minutes. not sure if I'd go bigger than this, though. I'd lose some on the spot adjustments

Anonymous Fri Dec 8 21:16:19 2023 No.6970483

for anyone curious the huion pw550 is not different from the pw517 performance wise.
if you really want a pencil form factor the pw550s is definitely much thinner than the usual pen, but otherwise there isn't a reason to get it aside from the silicone being less of a dust magnet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 22:08:16 2023 No.6970539 >>6970483 Yeah I didn't notice any difference in performance between 517 and 550s that came with my studio 16. Just the slimmer profile that I didn't like.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 22:41:57 2023 No.6970584 File: 102 KB, 1000x1000, 21a610d927246ae5d53e7d46e6d6fbed.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What tablet has thin a stylus? Currently using something like this, which gets thicker at the end.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 00:51:31 2023 No.6970734

>>6970584
Huon has a new thin stylus. I have one and it's pretty great. It's about half the size of a standard size pen and the grip is matte plastic instead of sillicone which feels really nice. The buttons on it are firmer too. Only thing I don't care for is the IAF is stiffer, so I have to change most of my brush settings. If that doesn't bother you than I'd say chack it out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfTPEjsxrc0

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 01:17:20 2023 No.6970777 >>6970584 Any of the pro pen 2 wacom tablets can use the pro pen slim, which is just the pro pen 2 in a slim body, it's about the same width as like an apple pencil. Huion also has a slim pen fro some of their newer tablets

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 02:43:06 2023 No.6970858 >>6970777 >fro some of their newer tablets it works on every tablet that the pw517 works on, which is basically everything made in the last 3 or 4 years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 17:45:56 2023 No.6971692 >>6970584 why do people like thin styluses? the entire reason they were made thick like that is because they're more comfortable to use.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:50:19 2023 No.6972019 If you could make a perfect set up, what would it be like? moving and will have nearly endless room now to make an art studio I want. I just never put that much thought into what a perfect art studio would be.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 03:54:28 2023 No.6972372 >>6964672 Anyone here use krita? How much ram does it take for you when you have nothing open?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 00:33:02 2023 No.6973323 >>6972372 Like 800mb iirc I can check exactly when I get home if you want

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:22:07 2023 No.6973492 >>6973323 >Like 800mb iirc >I can check exactly when I get home if you want Sure, that'd be usefull. Do you have a lot of resource packs installed or anything? I'm trying to figure out if something is going on with my installation or computer

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:28:41 2023 No.6973503 >>6973492 >>6973323 Im trying to figure out if an update may have broken something in krita. Basically see this post: >>6973204

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 15:32:51 2023 No.6974003 >>6964672 Whats so good about the deco over other cheap chinese tablets?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 21:50:55 2023 No.6974514 >>6971692 My hands start to hurt after drawing for a while. i don't get this with a normal pencil.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 00:26:03 2023 No.6974706 >>6974514 sounds like a skill issue

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 22:14:34 2023 No.6975876 >>6972019 for me it's a fairly basic triple monitor setup just with my far right monitor as a tablet on an arm, with my pen holder on the right and macro pad on the left. can draw if it's somehow unclear

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 22:22:30 2023 No.6975880 >>6972019 >If you could make a perfect set up, what would it be like? 32 inch 4K monitor + Intuos pro Large + 2nd monitor for reference ( if possible the same as amain monitor to keep the clean aesthetic ).

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 22:28:53 2023 No.6975888 me and my s6 lite against the world

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 22:59:36 2023 No.6975917 have a budget of around 300, but the less the better, what is the optimal x-pen artist model I can get? wanted to buy huion kanvas 13 but found out they are heating up when working for too long

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 23:13:27 2023 No.6975935 >>6975917 do you care if it's 2nd hand?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 23:15:40 2023 No.6975937 >>6975935 I live in northern Europe, I doubt I can find 2nd hand

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 23:28:37 2023 No.6975954 >>6975937 how much is the pro 14 gen 2 in your money?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 23:30:50 2023 No.6975957 >>6964672 How do you mix colors well in csp (or use wet brushes) without fucking up your wrist? Im used to krita and am trying out the csp free trial

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 23:34:08 2023 No.6975963 >>6975954 almost 400€

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 23:57:26 2023 No.6975985 >>6975963 F flip a coin and get a kamvas or xp pen 13 then. you don't really have many options if no 2nd hand and a limited budget unfortunately. I think you're better off saving a little more and just getting any modern 16" personally

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 16:16:37 2023 No.6976819

>>6975963
>>6975917
there are so many different iterations of tablets with the same name that it makes it kind of a pain in the ass, but your best bet for around $300 is either this
https://store.huion.com/products/kamvas-pro-16?vid=1121
or this
https://store.huion.com/products/kamvas-16-2021?vid=1230

the pro 16 (first link) has the benefit of etched glass, but the older pen
the 16 2021 (second link) has the benefit of their newer pen, but a screen protector.

Personally I fucking hate how screen protectors feel, but people have said the 2021 is a better overall experience despite it because of the better pen.

If both of those are out of your budget,
https://store.huion.com/products/kamvas-pro-13?vid=1119
https://store.huion.com/products/kamvas-13?vid=1222

same deal, the first link has etched glass, the second has their newer pen but a screen protector. Forewarning, there's a very high likelihood you WILL outgrow a 13" tablet, and it will feel cramped as shit. it's not like a 12.9" ipad where the entire screen is your drawing area in procreate, you'll lose ~1/3 of the screen (1/6 on each side) to UI.

If you'd prefer xp-pen to huion (personally I think they were slightly behind until the current gen stuff, but still perfectly usable) their products are almost the exact same price for the same sizes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 17:38:41 2023 No.6976933 I just wanted to tell you that I hate XP pen. Thank you

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 23:24:02 2023 No.6977252 >>6976933 why?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 01:10:58 2023 No.6977334 >>6976933 xp pen dindu nuffin

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 03:07:48 2023 No.6977449
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Has anyone tried using stands like this for their equipment? They're made for holding up instruments and laptops at DJ sets and such but I can't see why they couldn't handle drawing as well
I have a small tabletop tablet holder right now because I don't have space for a dedicated table for it but a tripod like this would fulfill the same purpose at a much smaller footprint

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 11:27:39 2023 No.6977819 >>6977449 I don't see any reason at all that it wouldn't work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 14:36:06 2023 No.6977886 >>6977819 I ordered one so we'll see how it goes

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 03:06:28 2023 No.6978826 How does the Intuos 5 hold up? I already got a newer Intuos but not the pro, would it be worth the upgrade?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 07:44:07 2023 No.6979094 >>6978826 If you can find an intuos 5 at a good price and not much wear, go for it. They're pretty good

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 14:05:35 2023 No.6979328

>>6977449
it arrived and i set it up, just from first impressions it's actually pretty good, bigger than i expected in pretty much every dimension but still fits my space and tablet (admittedly small for drawing tablet standards as it's an S7 FE) but if you don't plan on using it at a 90 degree tilt it can probably hold on to a full size 22 inch display tablet too

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 19:50:42 2023 No.6979653 >>6979328 Link?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 19:52:58 2023 No.6979656 >>6979653 don't have a link, it's the gravity ltst01

Anonymous Sat Dec 16 08:54:49 2023 No.6980395

Are there any phones you would recommend for drawing? I have an old cintiq 13HD and I used to force myself to draw on it for several years, but eventually I quit because the drawing process wasn't fun. Coming back to it a few years later, I realized it was horribly uncomfortable and the wires made it unwieldy to move around and reposition with. I know a big part of my problem with that is needing to reposition in the first place, but my terrible drawing setup isn't going to change any time soon so something that I could comfortably draw on in various positions might be enough to make it fun again. I used to enjoy drawing in a sketchbook back in school, so I was thinking that maybe a phone or mobile tablet might be good for something convenient that I could just pick up and use without any setup whenever I feel like drawing. Since my old phone is dying and my last tablet didn't feel great, I was leaning toward phone. I'm not looking to draw professionally, it'd just be nice to have a hobby to improve at over time that I could share with people.

Anonymous Sat Dec 16 23:53:42 2023 No.6981077
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>>6980395
Only phone that's at all decent for drawing is probably the note series because of the always there stylus and large screen, whatever iteration of it you want. I have a 10+ and it's good to doodle on.
You could try the moto g stylus or the z fold, but I imagine it's weird to draw with the folding screen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 06:06:39 2023 No.6981335 >>6981077 Thanks, I'll give those a look

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 02:29:03 2023 No.6982298 File: 66 KB, 521x604, Niea_7 Scrap 005.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what inch range constitutes medium-large for pen tablets? also is there a significant advantage to display tablets or is it moreso personal preference?

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 03:12:15 2023 No.6982356

>>6982298
if you take a look at vendor inventories you'll see display tablets usually start at around 13" and go up to about 24" with some outliers either end so medium-large would be something in the 17-20 range
it's up to preference but unless you already have solid fundies in trad a pen tablet can be an annoying and confusing obtrusion to your learning
the back health argument is bull, you can sidestep it easily by just not being a goblin and having a proper setup

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 03:16:03 2023 No.6982359 I want to learn how to draw using Krita...

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 05:39:27 2023 No.6982505

>>6982298
>what inch range constitutes medium-large for pen tablets?
They're marketed by sizes like that rather than a diagonal for I don't know what reason. But the dimensions are around
Small - 6x4
Medium - 9x6
Large - 11x7
Xlarge - 14x9
Give or take an inch or so. The sizes are approximately universal across all the brands.

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 06:28:45 2023 No.6982545

>>6982298
Don't even entertain the idea of getting a small or medium tablet, neither of them are appropriate relative to a modern desktop monitor size. Only a large tablet (which is barely adequate by that standard) or a screen should be up for consideration-but I would still absolutely recommend the former over the latter for a variety of reasons.

There are many advantages to drawing off-screen than on, not even including posture/health related ones but those are significant.

>>6982356
>the back argument is bull
Rising rates of chronic neck and back pain in younger segments of the population say you're wrong. You will not find a single candid photograph of someone using a screen tablet in a manner that wouldn't cause them potentially serious issues over time and you will struggle to even find a staged one, including from the tablet makers themselves. You might see someone do some performative nonsense on youtube they're barely able to maintain for the five minute duration of the video-but that still has no bearing on how you or anyone else (including the video maker) will actually use the device outside of the "demonstration" when no one's looking.

I'm not saying to post it here, but for your own sake you should record yourself working to see what you're really doing at your desk instead of simply taking it on faith that because you supposedly don't feel any strain now that it isn't a foregone conclusion.

>>6982505
You're close enough but a little off
Intuos Medium = 8 x 6
Intuos Medium-Wide (Intuos 3 only, but is much better than a standard "Medium") = 11 x 6
Intuos Large = 12 x 9
XP-Pen XLW = 15 x 9

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 06:39:37 2023 No.6982553

>>6982545
>Rising rates of chronic neck and back pain in younger segments of the population say you're wrong.
m8 what the fuck does that have to do with drawing tablets?
>You will not find a single candid photograph of someone using a screen tablet in a manner that wouldn't cause them potentially serious issues over time
I too have pictures randomly taken of myself drawing quite often, I see your point for sure now.
I will unironically take your last bit of advice though and record myself drawing to see if I'm fucking up my body in any way instead of just being a sparky asshole to all your points.

also sizes vary by brand by an inch give or take. Even different models with the same brand. Like the entry level huion tablets are smaller than the inspiroy line for the same size category

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 07:22:24 2023 No.6982575
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>>6982553
>m8 what the fuck does that have to do with drawing tablets?
I'll elaborate, I just can't emphasize enough how bad retaining a position like this is in the pic for you for any extended period of time. Screen drawing tablets are the same as cellphones and personal tablets in that they are just another device-albeit in this case a specialized niche one-that is causing us to take anatomically unfortunate positions to facilitate their proper use and are therefore a contributing factor to the increasing rates of spinal infirmities in younger and younger people.

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 07:26:35 2023 No.6982578
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>>6982553
>I too have pictures randomly taken of myself drawing quite often, I see your point for sure now.
I know you're being facetious but just look at pictures of people using this things in random topical media or even product pages.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 07:32:50 2023 No.6982580 >>6982578 and how do you think trad art is done?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 09:40:04 2023 No.6982647 >>6982575 just take a break,stretch and walk around for a bit there you go

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 12:34:24 2023 No.6982729 >>6982578 So basically drawing at all is bad for you. Okay.

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 14:41:25 2023 No.6982820

>>6982580
Rightly? On a completely vertical easel, with media that requires constant attention, keeping you from remaining in a static position for too long. Even if an identical position is taken and you hunch over your work on a desk or dinner table you have to consciously remove yourself from the drawing position in digital rather than being forced to by the need to sharpen a pencil or reapply paint. It's not nearly the same.

>>6982729
Not as bad as digital on a screen for the reasons I mentioned above but yes, it is. Which is why a tablet without a screen is better than the alternatives, including trad.

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 14:49:59 2023 No.6982826

>>6980395
I have the Note 10+ and I thought I couldn't draw on it as much. Screen is too small for my liking as my main drawing tablet is 16". I'm trying the Fold 5. The inner screen is great but the thin outer screen is probably going to make me hate it. I guess I'll only consider it if my phone finally dies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 14:52:00 2023 No.6982828 >>6982578 Just raise your fucking display tablet off the table on a stand or even a pile of books holy fucking shit why do you have to make this so complicated old man?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 15:02:17 2023 No.6982838 File: 532 KB, 600x600, schiz.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >a complete disconnect between your vision and hand is le good actually!

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 17:02:50 2023 No.6982959

>>6982828
You're acting like this is some outrageous statement but it's true. If you want to get good at drawing you have to do it for many hours every day, and the residual affects on your health maintaining a hunched over static position in digital are considerable.

>just raise your
You won't do this though will you, Tech Neck nigga? Neither does anyone else or pictures of it would be common. I don't blame you because, while drawing on an easel may be healthier it's far clumsier than either being hunched over or drawing with a flat tablet. Methods like sight size involve you literally walking back and forth from your easel with every few strokes you make and in comparative measurement drawing you're still keeping yourself mobile and occupied with physical measurement techniques.

>>6982838
I don't know what to tell you other than yes it is. I know you over-medicated tablet baby tranny zoomers have a hard time imagining this but there's these things they used to have called computer mice that let you click on stuff without having to stare down your chubby little baby fingers to make sure it's in the right place, and they function in much the same way. The disconnect isn't related to "accuracy" but acceleration, a small tablet will zip across your entire screen with such slight movements it's extremely difficult to manage for a beginner but a larger tablet doesn't have this issue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 17:19:25 2023 No.6982976 >>6982959 >You won't do this though will you Nta but I did that years ago. Why do you always insist no one does it, then site >I googled pictures of candid tablet use!!! as your evidence?

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 17:22:28 2023 No.6982980

>>6982826
After looking through the phones that other anon suggested, they all have some issues that make me not want to get a phone for drawing anymore. It's insane that every high-end stylus phone they've released for the past few years forces a curved screen on you and the newer ones don't even have micro SD card support. There's also regional chipset nonsense to worry about. The Fold 5 at least does something new by turning into a tiny tablet, but it doesn't come with a stylus so I wasn't sure about it. Apparently they're doing away with the curved screens for the S24U next year(?) but at this point the next Fold model seems more interesting. There are rumors that the screen will be bigger too so maybe that's something to keep an eye on

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 17:54:58 2023 No.6983011
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>>6982980
no phone will be good for drawing in the sense that a dedicated drawing tablet is. The reason I said a note is because it's usable. I can draw stuff like this or the girl I posted earlier. It's just good enough to be able to draw anywhere, not something that's a serious drawing tool.

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 17:59:36 2023 No.6983014
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>>6982976
Post your fit and I'll take it into consideration, I suspect like most people you've got a higher opinion of it than it deserves though. Every person in that aforementioned image likely believes they're not doing anything wrong too. Even in the image there are some who have their tablets raised somewhat so their neck/back isn't too bad-but now they're having to maintain their arm raised with no support causing tension in the shoulders. At the end of the day it is indisputable that a flat tablet is better for your long term drawing health than a screen is, but some ways of using a screen are better than others in that regard, certainly.

>>6982980
Why would you ever consider limiting yourself to a phone? Even something like an ipad is bad enough being so much smaller than a conventional monitor screen but going out of your way to buy a phone for the specific purpose of drawing is absolutely outlandish to me.

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 18:01:52 2023 No.6983015

>>6983014
Addendum: some people take public transportation and have to do so a lot. If you're commuting several hours every day I would stay getting an ipad if possible would be a good compromise, but if you're home 90+% of the time like most people you don't want to buy a "mobile device" under the presumption it will be used as such other than extremely rarely.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 18:03:09 2023 No.6983017 >>6982647 This. It's absolutely retarded to sit for long periods of time in any position. Regular breaks and stretching is going to make more of a difference than any tablet-oriented decision will by miles

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 18:17:35 2023 No.6983037 >>6983014 >Why would you ever consider limiting yourself to a phone? Most people always have their phones on them. It's in addition to, not instead of.

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 18:44:15 2023 No.6983057
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>>6982545
>There are many advantages to drawing off-screen than on, not even including posture/health related ones
such as? everywhere I go (besides /3/, they like screenless more) people say screens are better for drawing and it saddens me becasue I don't have 2k$ to get top of the line stuff

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 18:52:19 2023 No.6983065

>>6983057
I personally cannot do graphics tablets but when I tried them being able to draw without my hand obstructing the screen was really nice.
Also you can get a decent FHD 16" screen tablet for ~300 USD at the moment. The crazy expensive ones are huge and really high res which isn't necessary, just nice. Hell even a Cintiq 16 is $500 on Amazon right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 18:55:10 2023 No.6983069 >>6983057 >it saddens me becasue I don't have 2k$ to get top of the line stuff Chinkshit is just as good nowadays. Drop $400 and get a 22 plus instead of 2.5k for the equivalent wacom.

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 19:16:12 2023 No.6983090

>>6983011
Right, and I appreciate the suggestions since they got me on the right track for looking into it further. I knew the screen size would be an issue, I just didn't realize just how many other problems there would be.

>>6983014
>>6983015
Mobile tablets were the next thing I was going to look into, along with screenless tablets. Like I said in >>6980395, my old screen tablet was pretty uncomfortable and part of that was my hand getting in the way of the screen and having to hold it a certain way to see it. I was looking for options where I could reposition and get comfy despite my crappy setup and it sounds like a lightweight screenless tablet might work better for that than any mobile device.

It would have been nice to both replace my dying phone and get a more convenient tablet to draw on at the same time, but after seeing my options for phones I'm probably going to give up on that unless it's a bonus thing like >>6983037 said. These things are more expensive than most tablets anyway

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 19:31:22 2023 No.6983100

>>6983090
>These things are more expensive than most tablets anyway
yeah that's why I still have my note 10+
The marginally better hardware is meaningless to me, this thing already has a nice camera, big (for phone) screen, 8gb ram, basically all the bells and whistles I need. Even for shit like genshin or wild rift or whatever mobile game, it has a good enough cpu to play them. Phone is GOATed and can be had for like 200 bucks now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 19:47:34 2023 No.6983118 >>6982820 >he thinks you draw with a pencil on an easel

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 20:09:37 2023 No.6983143
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>>6983037
I get what you're saying but if you're in the comfort of your own home like most people are the majority of their time, the idea of drawing on a tiny screen like that when there are better and less expensive options readily available is still ponderous.

>>6983057
Most people get their impression of how tablets work from paid influencers or endlessly positive but completely contextless beginners writing reviews on e-commerce websites. That's the reason small tablets sell so well; you have two products (say an Intuos Pro Small and and Intuos Pro Large) both will have 4+ out of five star ratings but one will be much less expensive. Because of that people will often do the "logical thing" and buy the less expensive, but "just as good" option. However, it's wrong lol.

What happens is people buy these cheap little tablets based on positive reviews made in ignorance, and not too long after leaving their own 5 star review on Amazon or whatever come to realize that they're actually extremely unwieldy to draw with (especially for a /beg/), leading them to purchase a screen not too far down the road and become convinced that they were simply incapable of drawing without a screen all along.

The advantages are:

Ergonomics - draw for many hours with zero discomfort. Also, a second monitor can be used for references without having to look up and down or too far off to either side. People like to act offended when I bring this stuff up like I'm being unreasonable but it's super important.

Longevity of the device - flat tablets have no moving parts nor do they generate any heat or have a screen that's going to become scuffed up or burn out, this is why many 20 year old models are still being employed in the field today.

Your software canvas being completely open to your observation with zero obstruction is very beneficial as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 20:27:39 2023 No.6983169 >>6983143 >but if you're in the comfort of your own home like most people are the majority of their time Work? Vacation? Traveling? I drew >>6983011 at the beach on the 4th of July

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 20:29:18 2023 No.6983172

>>6983100
I read the 20U had less pen latency, but if I'm going to have to compromise with a curved screen and less powerful hardware anyway I might just end up getting a 10+ to replace my current phone. Seems a lot of people really love that one and it wouldn't break the bank while I wait for newer models to be worth their price

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 21:01:49 2023 No.6983226
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>>6983118
Graphite or charcoal then, let's not be pedantic.

>>6983169
I bring my Intuos 3 to work (where I am now lol) every day despite usually having little opportunity to draw these days so that's valid. Right now I'm testing a newer thing that I'm optimistic but anxious about (initial impressions aren't great but also aren't conclusive). Anyway if you're traveling or on vacation even 10% of the time I'm jealous, my point still stands I think. I'm not completely against the idea but it would be my very last investment once my other bases were covered. Mobility/portability isn't a huge selling point vs screen real estate.

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 21:46:57 2023 No.6983273

>>6983226
>Mobility/portability isn't a huge selling point vs screen real estate.
that's why I got a kamvas studio 16. thing is fucking amazing and mogs the fuck out of my ipad while still letting my draw on my couch. it's not AS portable, but being able to perfectly mirror my desktop experience while not at me desk is amazing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 11:03:21 2023 No.6983888 >>6983172 >pen latency Homie it's a 6 inch screen with a stylus barely bigger than a toothpick. Why are you worrying about shit like latency?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 12:46:49 2023 No.6983957 >>6982959 Anon, if your screen is too low and it hurts your neck, you raise it up. Why do you need to write this much about something with solutions so obvious? All of your posts reeks of all talk but lacking in common sense.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 14:20:06 2023 No.6984040 >>6983888 That is a fair point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 16:58:08 2023 No.6984192 How hard is transitioning to digital art? I'm worried because I want to do digital art in color but I never colored anything, I only used pencils and shading.

Anonymous Tue Dec 19 18:01:37 2023 No.6984267

>>6983957
>you raise it up
Now you're straining your shoulders and elbow, no support. Besides, if you're feeling it it's already too late, achievement unlocked-chronic pain. Initially your body becomes tricked into finding comfort in a bad position and before you realize it you've become based and shrimp pilled.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 19:16:55 2023 No.6984390 dunno if its the right place but i am in need of setting up a new pc so i can draw digitally it's mostly complete but what is the very cheapest monitor i can get away with? i know IPS is a must but what else? i am a begginer if it matters

Anonymous Tue Dec 19 21:13:24 2023 No.6984537

>>6984390
>what is the very cheapest monitor i can get away with?
consider the following: most people viewing your work are going to be looking at it from their cheapshit $20 thrift store special. the biggest reason to get something with near perfect color accuracy is if you're doing prints and need your digital art to translate to physical mediums.

basically any IPS display is all your need anyway since most of the panels are made by the same company. Something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/HP-24mh-FHD-Monitor-Built/dp/B08BF4CZSV
would be perfectly adequate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 21:24:19 2023 No.6984550 >>6984537 ah i see thanks my brother

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 21:32:08 2023 No.6984563 >>6984267 This happened to me with my shoulder.. tricked myself into a bad position for literal years

Anonymous Tue Dec 19 21:45:58 2023 No.6984591

>>6984563
I knew what I was saying was true but I genuinely didn't think anyone would respond favorably to the statement. I know people who've had similar happen to them in real life (including myself) and the people who it hasn't happened to are often in deep denial they could possibly be doing anything wrong and become defensive at the prospect. I talk about it so much though because it's a very real epidemic-if it was that obvious that you were causing your spine to be malformed people would never allow that to happen, but it's an insidious thing that happens over the course of months and years.

>>6984390
Get something nice on facebook marketplace or craigslist. I got an awesome monitor for 30 bucks that can position itself vertically which is just great for reading books and the like.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 21:50:40 2023 No.6984598 >>6964672 >XP Pen Deco (v2 if you can afford it) It's literally the cheapest one like 25 bucks

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 00:54:41 2023 No.6984819 I see people here use a lot of Huion display tablets. How bad is the anti-glare sparkle on the newer ones that use the protective film in your opinion?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 01:16:50 2023 No.6984855 >>6984819 not really an answer to your question, but why would you get one with a screen protector when ones with etched glass aren't much more?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 02:36:54 2023 No.6984958 >>6984855 I'm pretty sensitive to parallax and for the 16 inch I'm eyeing in particular the etched glass pro version uses an older pen. I've heard the older pen had worse accuracy at the edges than the new

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 03:12:14 2023 No.6984985 i really wanna get an S9 Ultra bros

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 03:34:58 2023 No.6985014 >>6984985 take the studio 16 pill instead

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 03:36:13 2023 No.6985015 >>6985014 that shit costs twice as much

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 03:45:57 2023 No.6985023 >>6985015 oh wtf I thought the s9 ultra was like $1500

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 03:48:30 2023 No.6985027 >>6985023 it does but it's discounted by like 400 bucks everywhere i can buy it right now idk if it's cause of the holidays or introductory FOMO pricing

Anonymous Wed Dec 20 04:51:56 2023 No.6985094
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is it worth buying an old intuos 3d cth690 for 25 bucks? from what i'm reading it uses the same pen as the wacom one and the draw series, i've never used a wacom tablet and i've never been able to get used to the shitty software and pens that the chinese tablets use.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 05:15:51 2023 No.6985140 >>6985094 It will work, and any tablet that let's you draw is better than nothing. what chinkshit have you tried though?

Anonymous Wed Dec 20 05:29:08 2023 No.6985152

>>6985140
I used a xp pen deco one of the first models that came out, the lines were shaky no matter how much stabilizer I used and the sensitivity was very inconsistent if I pressed very little the tablet registered between 0 and almost invisible lines and if I pressed more the sensitivity bar went up and down like one of those bars to visualize the music you listen to in windows player, now i'm using a deco pro, again one of the first models and it's pretty much the same also the tilt function of the pencil got screwed up out of nowhere and when I tilt the pencil it moves like crazy

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 05:36:07 2023 No.6985163 >>6985152 First gen deco was back when xp pen was still a Japanese company, and is also years out dated. I'd suggest trying something newer honestly, or just pick up the intuos 3 which will >just werk

Anonymous Wed Dec 20 05:38:49 2023 No.6985166

>>6985163
*should also say you'd probably be better off (in terms of drawing feel) getting a newer wacom even, like an intuos 4 or 5, for not much more.

As much as the intuos 3 is praised for being indestructible, tablets are something that genuinely do get better the newer they are.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 08:25:47 2023 No.6985285 >>6985152 i use v2 and have no issues with wobly lines

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 18:37:13 2023 No.6985835 >>6985285 >I used a xp pen deco one of the first models that came out

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 19:03:36 2023 No.6985880 >>6985835 yes so stop using old outdated shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 20:54:37 2023 No.6986037 >>6964672 Thoughts on XP pen display tablets? I'm looking at the innovator 16 due to it being more affordable than pro 2nd gen while having less parallax than pro 1st gen.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 21:04:40 2023 No.6986048 >>6986037 Just shell out the extra for a pro gen 2. It's a huge step up from their previous tablets.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 21:05:39 2023 No.6986049 >>6986048 In what way?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 21:08:57 2023 No.6986056 >>6986049 Etched glass, better color range, better contrast, better pen It's an improvement in every way over the older models. It also has 16k pressure which is an absolutely worthless meme, but it has it regardless.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 04:40:47 2023 No.6986482 How risky is it to buy an used tablet? I have a guy willing to sell H1060P that he claims was only tried out, but I have no idea if there is any proper way to know whether this is the case, other than seeing that the surface isn't scratched to hell.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 04:46:58 2023 No.6986486 Thoughts of Wacom Intuos M? Regarding pen quality mostly (usb model)

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 13:58:25 2023 No.6986911 >>6986486 Completely fine? Realistically every tablet made by a reputable company now is fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 19:54:39 2023 No.6987231 Are huion pen's pressure ranges really fuckin small? It feels like the force between just drawing to the max pressure level is almost nonexistent on my Kamvas

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 20:00:28 2023 No.6987237 >>6985835 old chinese brand tablets are shit recent ones are alright when compared to wacom

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 22:13:20 2023 No.6987387 >>6987231 have you fucked with your pressure settings? What you described doesn't mirror my experience at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 22:50:48 2023 No.6987440 >>6987387 Just checked and I haven't messed with any pressure settings anywhere. I'm comparing it against a wacom one screenless tablet and the difference between its pressure range and the kamvas's is massive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 21 23:46:37 2023 No.6987576 >>6987440 Is this the latest meme? I've never seen this before, and suddenly like 4 posts randomly brought it up. I can make a mark by literally just dragging my pen across the screen with its own weight.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 00:08:59 2023 No.6987617

>>6987576
I've seen it mentioend around some places but in my case I expected it to have more or at least equal the pressure range to the wacom one but it's clearly much smaller to me. I've only tried the Huion and the One though, not sure if it might be pen variance or some driver issue on my side.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 01:53:45 2023 No.6987832
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I'm saving up for the S9 Ultra, in a month or two I'll have it but by then the next S10 line will be around the corner and it's rumoured to have a generational leap with the next gen Snapdragon CPU so might as well wait.
I hate yearly hardware releases.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:05:02 2023 No.6987855 >>6987832 yeah, better wait for the new piece of tech that won't actually make any difference, don't want to have a thing that is worse on paper but identical in actual use.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:15:30 2023 No.6987869 >>6987855 If you already have it it doesn't really matter but if you're planning to buy it kinda does

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:45:01 2023 No.6987909 >>6987869 I would rather have a cool thing to start drawing with now instead of waiting 6 months for a slightly different cool thing to use

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:52:16 2023 No.6987916 >>6987909 I picked up an S7 FE towards the beginning of the year but it's the 4gb variant which is a huge scam, if I can still flip it for like $400 and put that towards an S9 I'm gucci

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:53:39 2023 No.6987918 >>6987916 >I picked up an S7 FE towards the beginning of the year disregard everything I said then, carry on soon to be ultra friend.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 06:53:50 2023 No.6988078
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Maybe this is too obscure or stupid of an issue, but my Wacom one does a thing whenever I'm making extremely small/short strokes where it "jumps" and does an L shape instead of the straight line I drew. It doesn't happen whenever I'm doing normal full-sized strokes, but it's still annoying when it happens. Is there any way to prevent or fix it?

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Anonymous Fri Dec 22 14:46:54 2023 No.6988353

>>6982575
What I do is I have a stand that puts the tablet at about a 60 degree angle and drop my adjustable chair to its minimum setting.
I keep the elbow support from the table, my wrist is straight with my forearm, and my eyes are level to the screen. Feels pretty comfy.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 15:46:33 2023 No.6988421

>>6987832

The S8 Ultra and S9 Ultra have no real difference if you are using the tablet through SuperDisplay. If you're using CSP through Android, the extra RAM would probably help, but likely not much. The S8 Ultra was on sale at Best Buy for $700. That's probably as good as it will get.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 18:07:18 2023 No.6988559

What matte screen protectors are recommended for ipads? I upgraded from an 11 inch to 12.9 but the brand I used on the 11 inch no longer exists.
None of that ""paperlike"" trash please, that shit is the only thing more disgusting to draw on than plain slippery glass.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 19:37:48 2023 No.6988663 >>6988559 >None of the things that actually make the tablet usable for drawing please Elecom has different levels of grittiness, there's probably one that suits your needs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 04:47:03 2023 No.6989123 >>6988421 >if you are using the tablet through SuperDisplay why would you buy an s_ ultra and use it for superdisplay? isn't the whole point of having a 14" tablet to be a standalone?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 04:57:14 2023 No.6989129 >>6989123 sometimes you just gotta flex on display tablet users

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 05:31:26 2023 No.6989146 >>6989129 By using a worse display tablet?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 05:51:45 2023 No.6989161 >>6989146 It's pretty much on par with display tablets except for shortcut buttons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 06:15:11 2023 No.6989179 >>6989161 It's truly astonishing people don't realize the importance of drawing surface texture.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 11:21:25 2023 No.6989325 >>6989161 Xencelabs Quick Keys addon also fixes that problem.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 11:39:33 2023 No.6989338 One day I’ll finally get myself the highest end Wacom product (i.e Cintiq 27 Pro).

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 11:56:44 2023 No.6989351 >>6986037 I have the innovator 16.Go for the Pro 16 Gen 2 like the other anon mentions. It's superior to it in every way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 12:07:34 2023 No.6989354 >>6989179 Plastic nibs on glass are disgusting but it's so easy to just get some rubberized nibs instead and it completely gets rid of the problem.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 13:56:10 2023 No.6989449 >>6989354 The squeak of plastic on glass makes me cringe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 14:02:20 2023 No.6989455 >>6964672 >Recommended Tablets: >Samsung Galaxy Tab >Surface Pro 8/9 What the fuck are these recommendations? >Avoid Chinese tablets 4+ years old or made by literally who brands like gaomon, ugee, parblo, etc Gaomon is Huion. XP-pen is Ugee.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 14:32:14 2023 No.6989482 >>6989455 The tablets work fine, there's a wacom obsession or people trying to justify their wacom investment before the capacitors explode (again).

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 14:39:08 2023 No.6989487 >>6989455 >Gaomon is Huion. XP-pen is Ugee. Being part of the same company doesn't make them the same. Or do you think an audi r8 is the same car as your mom's jetta?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 14:39:29 2023 No.6989488 >>6989482 what's funny is that samsung literally licenses wacom's EMR tech and runs circles around even expensive cintiqs in terms of screen quality (imagine using LCD screens for any kind of creative work in 2024)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 14:50:16 2023 No.6989502 >>6989488 Exactly, which is why if an S8 Ultra can be obtained cheaply, it is better than a Wacom.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 15:00:47 2023 No.6989513

>>6989502
>it is better than a Wacom.
my god
no, retards, a Samsung tab 28 ultra is not better than a cintiq pro. What kind of fucking cope is this? I don't have a wacom and think they're disgustingly overpriced, but they're undeniably a better drawing experience than a mobile tablet. I swear this thread is filled with niggas that don't actually draw and just want to play console wars.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 15:01:48 2023 No.6989517 >>6989513 S8*

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 15:05:43 2023 No.6989521 >>6989513 Wacom doesn't win by cost, size, or convenience. If it's the shortcut keys, again, you can buy a shortcut keypad for little. Just wait till those caps blow up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 15:09:03 2023 No.6989524 >>6989521 >cost, size, or convenience A 24" tablet isn't bigger than 14"? The other 2 have nothing to do with drawing performance. Again, I swear you fucking retards don't actually draw at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 15:12:39 2023 No.6989530 >>6989524 >comparing a 24 to 14.6 Huion 24 will always win for the same reasons. One matte screen protector webm isn't going to change that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 15:13:48 2023 No.6989532 >>6989530 >comparing a 24 to 14.6 You're the one that brought up size??

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 16:36:37 2023 No.6989594

>>6989179
I tried out a S9 ultra on display and was very surprised at how good the rubber nibs they had out were. Still felt smooth as glass but with a significant amount of resistance that never felt like it would catch as pencil on paper sometimes does. Shit was $1200 though and I have no clue how well Clip Studio would run on the cheaper versions

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 18:00:25 2023 No.6989695 >>6989594 CSP runs well on just about anything as long as you're not trying to paint with size 300 textured brushes

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:04:13 2023 No.6990208 File: 444 KB, 1200x1200, 4DAEB712_F585_4A0B_92D3_900854157516.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Should i buy an old bamboo (ctl 470) or a wacom one (screnless)?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:14:11 2023 No.6990217 File: 343 KB, 660x528, MG_9266[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6990208 does this look like it would be comfortable to draw on?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:16:17 2023 No.6990218 >>6990217 Idk, my question is: there any difference between those tablets? Not to mention that bamboo drivers hasn't been updated since 2016

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:24:57 2023 No.6990230 >>6990218 >there any difference between those tablets? not really, both suck ass and were marketed as the entry level garbage line. buy new chinkshit or old top of the line wacom. you can get a wacom pth651 (medium pro) for like $50

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:40:17 2023 No.6990247 >>6990230 Understood, thank you

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:58:47 2023 No.6990263 My CTL4100 pen fell and now it's always drawing when I hover. Tried changed nibs. Any way to fix it or open it up?

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 09:08:55 2023 No.6990448

>>6990263

Remove the nib then use a can of compressed air or an air compressor inside the pen nose. Put the same nib back in or a new one. Make sure there is no dust on the tablet screen. If that does not fix the issue, the pen will likely need to be replaced.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 09:14:50 2023 No.6990455 >>6990448 I'll try that too, thanks. If I have to replace it, it's curious that a new tablet (Intuos) that comes WITH the pen is cheaper than the pen itself for me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 12:51:51 2023 No.6990594 >>6990455 https://www.ebay.com/itm/176124251239 - $23 for a new pen.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 13:40:39 2023 No.6990619

>>6989123
Do you actually get a good experience with Superdisplay? On rare occasions I want to use my Tab S8 to draw directly on some PDF for some cad drawings and O was mostly annoyed at how shit the experience was, usually in the lag and sometimes the pressure just doesnt work as well as I hoped.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 13:41:45 2023 No.6990620 >>6990217 Looks fine to me. my first foray into drawing tablets was similar to this one, but that was more than 10 years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 14:04:57 2023 No.6990635 >>6990619 There is no input delay through direct connection, that's why people use SuperDisplay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 05:06:30 2023 No.6991413 Merry Christmas dtg friends I hope you get whatever tablet you asked santa for

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 06:53:34 2023 No.6991460 How does the s8 ultra compare to the s8?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 13:06:23 2023 No.6991661 >>6991460 It's bigger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 13:12:00 2023 No.6991667 >>6991460 Same thing, just more screen space. It's best used with a real computer, but it also works by itself just fine, even on the 128GB model.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 14:41:18 2023 No.6991734 >>6991667 Would the s8+ be worth getting to use standalone?

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 15:58:17 2023 No.6991784

>>6991734

Honestly at 12.4" S8+ vs 14.6" S8 Ultra, depending on which part of the world, if the price is good, either one should work great. In the US it currently you can get S8+ used excellent conidition for $450 or new at $500-600 vs S8 Ultra at $550 used excellent condition or at $700-800 new.

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 18:42:10 2023 No.6991909

https://youtu.be/uNQiARrowy8
I came across this video and found the kind of setup looked nice for drawing. The noise seems much rougher and less glass-like compared to a typical apple/android tablet, and it does looks like my screen-less wacom tablet.

The person using an ipad air 5, and the problem is that I have a Samsung S8 tablet, is it possible to have the same type of configuration on it?
Also I'm a beginner at digital drawing, is there an Android app that's similar to Procreate, which looks really good.

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 19:20:00 2023 No.6991950
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>>6991909
>The noise seems much rougher and less glass-like compared to a typical apple/android tablet
it's just a matte screen protector of some kind, and what looks like a metal nib.
>Also I'm a beginner at digital drawing, is there an Android app that's similar to Procreate, which looks really good.

most common programs are:
>CSP
>photoshop
>krita
>procreate
>infinite painter
>hipaint
>ibis paint
>medibang

hipaint or infinite painter will probably scratch that itch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 20:21:22 2023 No.6991994 >>6991950 thanks for the advice

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 22:28:22 2023 No.6992088 File: 37 KB, 543x528, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] set the rear of the pen to 'click' but it still seems to default to erasing in CSP, anyone know how to get it to draw?

Anonymous Tue Dec 26 03:25:39 2023 No.6992312
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I found a kamvas 13 (2020), intuos pro large and a samsung galaxy tab s6 lite for around the same price. Fuck, I have no idea what to pick. Currently my drawing surface is like 6x3.5 inches, so anything is an upgrade. I just can't decide on screenless vs screen

Anonymous Tue Dec 26 03:28:15 2023 No.6992318
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>>6991909
hipaint and infinite painter are almost 1:1 clones of procreate, CSP recently added a simple mode that gets rid of the clunky desktop UI and replaces it with a tablet-friendly layout similar to procreate
it's got everything you need for illustration but you can freely switch between the modes if it's missing a feature you wanna use at some point in your drawing
you can get matte protectors like that for the s8 as well to make more noise but it'll wear out the rubber nib very quickly

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 06:52:11 2023 No.6992442 >>6991784 Do you think the base s8 would be alright? Or would it be too small?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 11:12:07 2023 No.6992591 >>6992442 I think the base S8 is too small. If you're buying base, you might as well pick an S6 or S7.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 18:11:26 2023 No.6992901 File: 40 KB, 800x800, 1692099702371759.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6964672 Hey /dtg/, how does the XP Pen Artist 16 Pro Gen 2 compare to the Cintiq 16 HD? Is it worth getting as a first screen tablet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 18:38:32 2023 No.6992932 >>6992901 >Is it worth getting as a first screen tablet? Yes. It's one of the best 16" tablets on the market currently.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 20:41:09 2023 No.6993053 >>6992901 You can get a Huion 16 with everything you could want for $160: https://www.newegg.com/huion-gs1562-black/p/172-0006-00181?Item=9SIB4BFJ273616

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 22:45:03 2023 No.6993196 >>6993053 >everything you could want

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 23:10:17 2023 No.6993210 >>6993053 pretty solid price but personally I would never buy refurbished/used from newegg. if anything is wrong you'll be sol

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 23:55:45 2023 No.6993239 >>6993210 It's being by Huion through Newegg.

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 00:38:41 2023 No.6993256
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What am i in for bros?
(I just wanted to flex this killer discount on nwegg. I very nearly would have bought the medium on the used market, they go for 150-200)

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 01:03:29 2023 No.6993280

Anyone ever have problems with Huion pen button shortcuts getting stuck? For example, I set spacebar (move) as a command for the side button on the pen. 1/3 of the time pressing it when I let go it's still doing the spacebar move command. Does this seem like a problem with pen or drivers? Problem with windows?

I took the pen apart and cleaned everything. The solder looks fine and all. Very confused.

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 01:07:55 2023 No.6993285

>>6993256
>my current set up
PS3 3D TV from 2011
XP Pen deco 01 (the old version)
ducky shine 6
I also draw in a sketchbook sometimes

Is my current monitor color accurate?
https://www.cnet.com/reviews/sony-playstation-3d-display-review/
if not, are there any monitors that have 75+ hz refresh rate but also good for art and nice and color accurate?

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 02:38:31 2023 No.6993383

>>6993239
That's good, hopefully there wouldn't be an easy way for newegg to fuck anyone over for getting these. I really hate that company.
>>6993280
I've had problems with the pen buttons not working unless I press the other button first. On my setup in krita one is set to the color picker shortcut and another to the quick palette shortcut and the quick palette one will never work twice in a row. I have to press the color picker one in between clicks of the quick palette button for it to actually pull up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 02:56:12 2023 No.6993396 >>6993280 I have the first button (closer to tip) on my pw517 set to toggle between the current tool and eraswr, and I have to press it repeatedly to get the fucker to work properly for some reason. 2nd button works fine

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 03:15:53 2023 No.6993415

>>6993383
>>6993396
Looked into it more and figured out that it's usually something messed up with the drivers. I was on the current 2023 drivers and this issue was happening.

A potential fix (and what worked for me) was downloading older drivers. For some reason Huion doesn't make it easy to download older drivers. So my tablet came out in 2020 so I was looking for 2020+ drivers. What I did was find a tablet discontinued in 2020-2023 and download the drivers for it. Although they're different tablets everything works fine. I think all drivers work for every tablet.

https://www.huion.com/index.php?m=content&c=index&a=lists&catid=16&myform=2&down_title1=Huion%20HS95&down_os=&down_type=&category=undefined

This fixed my problem

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 05:18:25 2023 No.6993538 >>6964672 Imagine wanting to spend unavailable money on technology when you can use paper+pen or just a humble screenless. We are living in the AI generated pics era so why the autism this is not 2020

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 06:13:15 2023 No.6993577 >>6993538 what are you even attempting to say?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 10:00:47 2023 No.6993725 >>6993538 I have a job

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 12:11:23 2023 No.6993822

New here, I see the Wacom Cintiq 16 is 40% off on Amazon for around $500, is it usually around this price or is it for a holiday sale now? And is this tablet any good for a first display tablet? Have been using wacom intuos pro screen tablet for the past 7 years lol

Anonymous Wed Dec 27 16:43:14 2023 No.6994010

>>6993822
you can get it for $500 basically any time.
>is this tablet any good for a first display tablet?
it's fine. It's not what I would personally recommend just because wacom is disgustingly overpriced though. for the same price, you can get either the xp pen 16 pro gen 2 or kamvas 22 plus, both of which give you a lot more value.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 22:19:18 2023 No.6994319 >>6993822 Note that it is 1080p, something that most art tablet manufacturers have moved away from.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 27 22:46:06 2023 No.6994354 >>6994319 1080p, low brightness, bad color gamut, bad contrast, screen protector it loses in literally every way to its competitors in the same price range.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 18:17:56 2023 No.6995266 >>6994354 >>6994319 1080p is fine the rest is shit at the price point it's a fine tablet but there are better options. just get something and draw is more important than getting overly obsessed with picking the "right" tablet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 28 23:15:33 2023 No.6995605 >>6995266 The savings from not buying wacom could be used to improve the setup around the tablet.

Giovanni Giano Fri Dec 29 00:04:10 2023 No.6995642

>>6993256
>>6993285
Solid deal, I got mine second hand in like-new condition for the outrageous price of $70, but the only downside is it didn't come with the clip. Definitely use the paper clip because the thing starts deteriorating immediately if you draw directly on it (you can replace the cover but it's $40 lol, this is why I still use 3s, the 5 and 4 are similar in this regard). Consider using paper meant for wet media like markers. It's much smoother while still retaining an appreciable grit.

All you really need to know is that this is it, essentially as good as it gets. Don't end up FOMOing into a screen.

>Ducky Shine 6
wut that is

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:49:02 2023 No.6995802 File: 311 KB, 828x1163, IMG_4528.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SOON

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:23:09 2023 No.6995843 >>6995802 now just make it less than $1700

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:31:46 2023 No.6995854 >>6995802 I can almost guarantee it's gonna cost the same or more than an iPad or Samsung and offer a fraction of the actual value

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:40:06 2023 No.6995863 >>6995854 I can guarantee you're wrong. I don't get why people (probably one faggot) here suddenly pretend samsung galaxy tabs and ipads are the pinaccle of drawing. they're barely passable dogshit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:50:48 2023 No.6995871 >>6995863 ok keep getting duped by shitty overpriced and outdated technology just because the box says it's for le artists

Giovanni Giano Fri Dec 29 04:11:19 2023 No.6995889

>>6995802
>professional level ultra-sensitive pressure sensitivity

I'm not going to lie, this reads like a parody. I currently have access to 20 years of tablet technology and I can say with some confidence that pressure sensitivity is a bing bing wahoo number that has very little bearing on performance. I could make a bunch of strokes on a canvas with different tablets using a pressure-sensitive inking brush and I guarantee you you couldn't tell the difference.

That said, these kinds of devices are ok for richfag travelers and urban commuters so I think they're definitely something to consider if you find yourself locked into 40 minute bus rides regularly, I just don't think people should plan on making them their main tool.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:20:05 2023 No.6995897 >>6995871 keep not drawing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:36:38 2023 No.6995913 >>6995889 Yeah I dunno why they keep making "le 16k pressure levels" their main selling point. I doubt anyone cares about those numbers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:46:59 2023 No.6995924 >>6995913 It's a bullshit marketing buzzwords basically. Number go up is a very normal thing when trying to sell tech to retards. Megapixels on cameras, DPI on mice, etc. No different from >military grade or >aircraft grade aluminum

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 14:45:46 2023 No.6996281 >>6995924 "Military grade aluminum" is generally 6061 aluminum, but normalfags don't know what that means.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:07:16 2023 No.6996308 >>6995924 knives made from surgical steel thats what doctors use, it's gotta be good!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:27:13 2023 No.6996325 >>6995642 Keyboard

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 18:24:34 2023 No.6996487

>>6996281
It's a meaningless buzzword because there's no 1 specific aluminum alloy used. They use 2024, 3003, 6061, 7075, etc.
The point is, it's just meant to sound impressive, because sodacan grade aluminum won't make Joe Dirt want to buy your product. Same with
>16000 levels of pressure sensitivity!
>32000 DPI!!
>16 MILLION shades of color!!
>Quantum Dot technology!

the numbers are also pretty commonly complete bullshit, like huion claiming 145% sRGB, but when actually calibrated properly is significantly less than that. Their colors are still good, but they have to throw a big impressive number in your face so not only does your tablet sound good, it sounds better than the other guy's that only has 98% adobe rgb.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:39:16 2023 No.6997185 >>6995802 any idea of a price point yet?

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:28:59 2023 No.6997871
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>>6964672
I bought a Wacom Cintiq Pro 32” for $3200 with stand for $500 and an iPad Pro 12.9” 5th gen with all specs maxed on release date for $2300~ back in 2021. I’ve drawn zero (0) hours on them. Can I still make it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 01:17:45 2023 No.6998181 File: 778 KB, 1632x2173, IMG_20231230_201037.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6993256 Its a good cat square

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 02:38:52 2023 No.6998241 >>6997871 okay but like why? you spent over 6 grand on drawing tablets and never used them?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 02:56:34 2023 No.6998259 >>6998241 So I could draw with them, obv, but money doesn’t buy the courage to just sit down and draw

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 03:43:34 2023 No.6998296 >>6990208 buy the wacom medium or if you can afford it the intuos pro large, no other tablets comes as close as performance with those two

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 05:55:12 2023 No.6998380

What's the best paperlike screen protector for the iPad pro 12.9 that isn't paperlike (the brand)?
I heard Bellemond and Elecom were good and was leaning towards the first, but unsure whether the normal or kent version would suit me more. Anyone here tested and tried both out?

Also any other accessories I should consider before my iPad arrives soon? Was looking at the zugu cases as well but I'm not sure I'm seeing any great alternatives otherwise that let me prop the tablet at as steep of an angle on a desk.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 11:22:26 2023 No.6998525

>>6995642
I've been using paint tool sai 2 and im not sure how to set it up with this. Should I just switch to a different drawing program? There aren't setting in sai 2 for pen buttons. For example I want the near button to swap from brush to eraser but i dont know how to set that up in the wacom center.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 11:26:26 2023 No.6998528

>>6998525
Also paint tool sai 2 doesnt seem to support the touch controls very well - I want to be able to use the one, two and three finger gestures. Sai 2 only does two finger zoom and really shitty horizontal panning, no rotating or three finger panning

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 14:54:00 2023 No.6998637 >>6998528 >>6998525 Why do people still use sai? It's always been bottom if the barrel. Even krita is better

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 16:41:05 2023 No.6998713 >>6998637 It's simple

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 17:10:12 2023 No.6998733 >>6998713 If you can't understand how to use csp/photoshop/krita within like 5 minutes of starting it, maybe digital art isn't for you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 19:35:25 2024 No.7000197 happy new year /dtg/ this year I will draw more than the last

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:32:44 2024 No.7000952 File: 465 KB, 1439x801, Screenshot_20240102_053122.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It looks kinda small I'm gonna guess $500-700

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 15:17:35 2024 No.7001057 >>7000952 if it doesn't cost less than $400 it's dead on arrival

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 18:46:08 2024 No.7001371 >>7001057 Why would that be exactly? It's not like it has any serious competition around that price point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:16:59 2024 No.7001442 File: 99 KB, 750x1000, flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7001371 >It's not like it has any serious competition around that price point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:52:53 2024 No.7001489 >>7001442 what other portable drawing tablet exists for $400? the closest is probably the tab s6 which is a huge piece of shit, or the new huion slate which they straight up tell you is a piece of shit meant for kids.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:16:52 2024 No.7001513

>>7001489
it doesn't look bigger than 11" so it's competing with the s6 lite which has a sticker price around that point but it's constantly on sale for almost half that and the s9 FE came out recently that's only slightly over the $400 mark
if you buy used you can get an even better tablet like an iphone or higher specced samsung for around the same price as well

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:20:22 2024 No.7001520 >>7001513 This It's also xp pen so very unlikely it has any notable drawing features like etched glass. It will probably be very comparable to the slate, just maybe with a real pen instead of some shit battery powered one. $300 is my bet

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:23:03 2024 No.7001523 >>6992312 intuos pro large is the easy choice

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:27:59 2024 No.7001528

>blah blah size this
>blah blah features that
>blah blah ratio, bells and whistles

sinix draws and paints on a shitty small intuos 3 from like 20 years ago with a sheet of printer paper ductaped on top of it wit a nib he cuts from a piece of plastic wire with pliers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:29:18 2024 No.7001530 >>7001528 >intuos 3 He uses intuos 2.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:34:14 2024 No.7001541 >>7001528 >wah wah i walked to school uphill both ways nobody cares about your brain damaged american opinion

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:35:01 2024 No.7001542 >>7001528 cool, don't remember asking. I'm sure if you keep dickriding though they'll notice you, since you'll never make anything of value yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:23:02 2024 No.7001587 updating the general template, any suggestions on shit to change/add? Adding a news section for new released/changes, and the most common software people use.

Giovanni Giano Tue Jan 2 22:54:24 2024 No.7001661

>>7001528
>>7001530
Despite being the only model with a sub-5080 lpi digitizer resolution (or one greater, for that matter) in 20 years the Intuos 2 seemed fine to me with a brief test. Pretty indistinguishable from the rest I'd used except for how Fisher-Price it looks. That doesn't change the fact that using a small one is ill-advised unless you're using a sub-compact notebook computer from the pre-2010s or something. Get a large ffs.

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 22:54:37 2024 No.7001663
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Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask about something like this, but this is a brand new Huion Kamvas Pro16 tablet and I can't understand why the display is showing up in these distorted rainbow colours. Is this a known issue?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 23:00:24 2024 No.7001673 >>7001663 What in the fuck No anon that's not normal or common. Send it back and get a new one, the newer 16, or an xp pen 16 gen 2 instead. That shit's fucked.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 23:14:09 2024 No.7001682 >>7001528 >sinix isn't that the guy that draws aliens with eyes on the side of their heads and calls them "humans"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 23:40:41 2024 No.7001709 Can you draw with an overhand grip on tablet pens? On a screen tablet that is.

Giovanni Giano Tue Jan 2 23:55:37 2024 No.7001726

>>7001682
Pretty sure he still wears a mask in public too. What a weenie. loooool

>>7001709
You can't do that with either. Think of it like a mechanical pencil or felt tip pen (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaif0PpNMas).). Actually, the most accurate comparison would probably be a ballpoint pen because you can get some (very limited) tilt, though it's not something much worth worrying about. Overhand grip is for traditional media that has the sides exposed like a graphite pencil or charcoal

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 00:26:38 2024 No.7001762 >>7001709 sort of. you're extremely angle limited, but you can technically do it. tablets have a maximum of 60 degrees of tilt. I'd try to demonstrate it, but missing the last joint of my index finger makes an overhand grip very awkward.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 06:09:57 2024 No.7002080 gonna kill this off right quick since I know a certain autistic fuck will try to stir up drama for no reason

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 06:13:57 2024 No.7002084 >>7001762 >>7001726 Yeah nah you aren't doing overhand with a tablet. I never really got the point if it over a basic tripod anyway desu.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 06:16:18 2024 No.7002086 File: 5 KB, 225x225, download - 2024-01-02T231449.836.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7001528 >sinix Plenty of artists use newer. Use what works best for you. Simple as.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 06:21:41 2024 No.7002092 >>7000952 cute Maybe a replacement for iPad that I can use without being extremely protective like I am the studio 16. Great device, but scared of damaging it since it's slightly too big and expensive compared to an older iPad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 06:24:29 2024 No.7002097 >>7002077 freshly >>7002077 baked >>7002077

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