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Why you should not trust youtube shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

Do not read anything into pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.
If you have any additional questions, ask them.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills.

Recommended tablets:

>Screenless:
Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom

>Display:
Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite
Medium (12-16"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S8/S9 Ultra, used iPad Pro 12.9"
Large (22"+): Cintiq 22HD, Cintiq Pro 27 - Make sure they have VESA standard mounting holes.

Avoid:

>XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand making Wacom imitations
Poor build quality, pens with wavy lines, wobbly nibs, broken tilt, issues registering light pressure, terrible customer support, uncalibrated. All Chinese brands have the same problems. Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.
Do not be fooled by myths like "Chink companies are just as good as Wacom now" - they've been saying this for over 8 years, nothing has changed. Consider reading the amazon reviews, particularly the negative spectrum and you will find some very common themes.
Chinese companies have also been proven to shill on 4chan. You will see dozens upon dozens of posts in this thread by a chinese schizo shill, who will either be bitching about the OP, gaslighting as a Wacom fan, making pointless spam posts or giving terrible advice (like recommending Huion). Just ignore and report him.

>Microsoft Surface Pro
More optimized for palm rejection than good quality drawing. Wobbly lines when drawing slow and straight.

>Cintiq 13-16"
Completely outclassed by the Galaxy Tab Ultra & iPad

>Cintiq Pro 16, 24, 32
Overpriced, QC issues, loud fans, proprietary mount interface

>Lenovo
Worse than Samsung in every way.

Previous: >>7121775

>> No.7147563
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>>7147562
>Check out the webm to understand how bad they are

>> No.7147569

You don't draw and never will.

>> No.7147651

>>7147563
I'm kinda tempted to make a webm of my chink junk and see what you guys think

>> No.7147654

Should I fall flr the screen less meme

>> No.7147659

>>7147651
whats wrong with it?

>> No.7147736
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7147736

>pressed down on my Intuos eraser at max pressure
>the pen literally exploded
>now the pen tip doesnt work even when I put it back together
what the fuck

>> No.7147739

>>7147736
Gorillas aren't made to draw

>> No.7147749

>>7147562
I wish I had a drawing tablet. Drawing on paper is fun and all, but I can't do anything fun with it. Being a 3rd worlder is not fun, don't do it

>> No.7147752

>>7147563
The line wobble at the end is so fucking stupid you can literally see the end of the pen moving up and down with his fingers. What kind of a retard pretends that something doesn't work?

>> No.7147754

>>7147563
Who is this guy? He's pissing me off

>> No.7147755

>>7147752
>you can literally see the end of the pen moving up and down with his fingers
That shouldn't create side to side wobble you idiot. This guy has done the exact same benchmarks on other tablets and there is no wobble.

You are a butthurt shill. Cry more you worthless little moron.

>> No.7147756

>>7147755
Shut up you stupid nigger if you don't know how to draw straight lines just say that

>> No.7147760

Newfag here, is Clip Studio Paint the software I want to get for digital art?

>> No.7147773

>>7147749
Anon if you have a PC, why not practice with a mouse in something free like Paint.net?

>> No.7147774

>>7147755
Who asked the loser who doesn't draw?

>> No.7147803 [DELETED] 

>>7147563
How about it faggot OP:
We all know you don't draw on an autistic quest against chink tablets.
So instead of claiming decade old shortcomings exist, other ones still remain.
So instead making the same claims over and over again update them so people actually know what the tradeoffs are.

>> No.7147811

>>7147563
How about it faggot OP:
We all know you don't draw and are on an autistic quest against chink tablets.
While claiming decade old shortcomings exist, other ones are relevant.
So instead making the same claims over and over again update them so people actually know what the tradeoffs are.
I know you don't draw and don't have any of these tablets, but could you at least pay attention to what people post in these threads?

>> No.7147835

>>7147562
1024 is not enough, the pressure you have to put for initial response is very bad compared to 2048.

>> No.7147841

>>7147803
>>7147811
Idiot.

>> No.7147842

>>7147835
Talking right out of your arse there, retard.

>> No.7147846

reminder to never listen to the screenless schizo and always go for a screen if possible.

>> No.7147860
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What do you think about using your drawing tablet in "touchpad-mode" i.e. the tablet is not the equialent of the screen, like a touchscreen, but it is relative movement, like a touchpad.

I just tried it out and I really seem to prefer it. Also, when I added mouse acceleration, it was totally good to use as a mouse, though I know people wont use it for drawing.

>> No.7147877

>>7147736
this is what you get for buying Chinese crap

>> No.7147887

>>7147755
You can do what he does with a normal pencil but I guess you don't know because you don't draw

>> No.7147904

>>7147736
Post of a photo of the pen tip then, probably the solder joints got broken with the pressure. I have 3x Grip Pens here and 2x Pro Pens1, they all work.

>> No.7147961

I'll ever listen to any of OP advice if he posts his work with a timestamp + his Intuos 3.
Until then, he is a no draw faggot not worthy of your time and attention.

>> No.7147964

>>7147841
pyw

>> No.7147977

>>7147563
I’m a spic and I use PC programs so chink tablets are my only option

XPPen Artist12 Pro or Huion Kamvas Pro 13? Which one is the lesser evil?

>> No.7147983

>>7147977
Both are good, ignore OP since he doesn't draw and that webm is, like, +6 years old.

>> No.7148062

>>7147846
i present to you sunk-cost fallacy of one who spent too much on his screen tablet

>> No.7148066

>>7147961
>3
you’re blind or stupid?

>> No.7148094

>>7147773
Drawing with a mouse hurts my wrist. I used to draw with vectors in ms paint but that hurts my wrist too. After I resorted to drawing on paper I gained a lot, but I also couldn't go back to drawing with vectors because it was too slow now. And yet I feel compelled to draw digital art. When I make enough money I'll buy wacom, I don't even care if it breaks after one hour of usage. I need to feel it under my hand before I die at least once. I need to know what it feels like to make those smooth lines and brilliant colors

>> No.7148102

>>7148066
Blind, since I'm not seeing any of your works.

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>>7147977
I use the Kamvas Pro 16 and haven't had any issues with it besides the cable they give you being short as fuck. So I'd vouch for the Kamvas Pro 13 as I imagine it's the same tablet just smaller.

Posting recent artwork done on my tablet to spite the OP and summon his ass to make some dumbass reply.

>> No.7148359

>>7147977
>and I use PC programs
So get a Galaxy Tablet with SuperDisplay. Easily outclasses chinese crap.

>> No.7148361

>>7148191
Called it >>7148359
Works posted: 0

>> No.7148385

where's the non schizo thread

>> No.7148396

What screenless is good with a modest budget?

>> No.7148443

>>7148396
Intuos

>> No.7148457

Why do anon fall for the screen meme?

>> No.7148464

Why do anon fall for screenless meme?

>> No.7148488

Why you faggots never post your works?

>> No.7148541

>>7148488
I will after I figure out what tablet I’ll buy anon

>> No.7148675

I just got a kamvas pro and it really has no parallax or wobble. I’m impressed.

>>7147977
I’d go for in iPad or a galaxy tablet. Fitting a UI inside a 13 inch monitor is not realistic. If the iPad is good for studio trigger it’s good for everyone

>> No.7148893

>>7148675
just because you can hammer a nail with a shoe, doesn't mean there isn't a better tool for the task

sure, ipad is good for drawing lines, but it sucks at coloring or painting, because the pen doesn't have buttons and procreate doesn't let you keep layer window open, so you're tapping way more than you should

>> No.7148904

>>7147562
What are the best art programs for the Galaxy S6? I currently use ibisPaint, but it feels to simple and the Clip Studio UI is has too much and feels too cluttered. It also frequently crashes on it in my experience and is slow.

>> No.7148918

>>7148904
Infinite Painter

>> No.7149039
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>>7148904
Clip Studio with Simple Mode

>> No.7149082

>>7149039
I didn't even know this was a thing. How do I turn it on?

>> No.7149087

>>7149082
nvm. This is so much better, wish I knew about this much sooner. I use CSP on PC too and its my preferred program.

>> No.7149287

>>7148062
You know for most of us a drawing tablet with a screen isn't a life ruining purchase right?

>> No.7149547
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>>7149039
there's a better way

>> No.7149865

>>7148893
Yo you do understand IPads have more drawing programs available than just Procreate, right?

>> No.7149895

>>7149865
You can't blame him when procreate is like the only thing iPads have over the competition and even that's severely overhyped

>> No.7149921

>>7149865
At that point any other tablet is better and cheaper

>> No.7150167

>>7147562
Pretty much new to digital, trying to pick between the Intuos and One from Wacom, which one would be the better choice?

>> No.7150434

Huion Inspiroy 2 L vs XP-Pen Deco Pro M. Which one out of the two should I buy? And why?

>> No.7150531

>>7147562
i have a screen tablet but only one hdmi port on my pc and want to use my normal monitor alongside my tablet at the same time. would an HDMI splitter work or would a display port be better? i'm not entirely familiar with the two and their uses.

>> No.7150550

>>7150531
> screen tablet
You got meme’d bro

>> No.7150553

>>7150550
lul'd

>> No.7150708

does wacom shit ever go on sale?

>> No.7150767

>>7150708
10% sale at best

>> No.7150894

>>7150767
chinese samefag

>> No.7150927

>>7150894
I’m trying to save you money bro. Why spend hundreds when you can do the same work for less.

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>> No.7150948

>>7150947
People know they can buy things to put their tablets at an angle right?

>> No.7150949

Is there a difference between One by Wacom and the intuo?

>> No.7150994

XP-Pen Deco 01 V2 is a solid beginner option, isn't it? Or would you say a medium One by Wacom is better?

>> No.7151234

Is there a way to adjust pressure sensitivity per brush instead of globally in artstudio pro?

>> No.7151365

>>7150894
butthurt chud

>> No.7151381

>>7150994
I use the 01V2 and it works fine, my work is >>7148292
its pressure sensitivity kinda sucks tho, so if you can afford it, the deco pro gen2 LW should be better

>> No.7151537

>>7150947
so why should I use that piece of shit over my cintiq pro 24" ?

>> No.7151632

>>7151537
because there's just simply no way to use the cintiq without turning into a shrimp, the technology to hold it higher up at an angle instead of flat on a desk just hasn't been invented yet

>> No.7151846

>>7151632
I'm using the official arm and it can go high, the problem is I don't like having my drawing hand that high all the time.

>> No.7151852

Any here draw on their phone?

>> No.7152157

Is there a sort of universal protective film for screenless tablets? I can't find one for a specific device, preferably a matte one.

>> No.7152299

>>7147562
The citiq 24 pro (with ergo stand or arm) is an amazing sceen tablet. Even better now that there are newer cintiqs, that way it is easier to find a good deal on these secondhand. I spend 1200 usd total for the tablet with the ergo stand for reference.
Never had a screen tablet before, used an intuos 3 for like 12 years. I was worried screens were overhyped, but now I can say it makes a huge difference. Even drawing simple lines is easier, looks better and is more enjoyable

>> No.7152546

bro spent over 1k on second hand shit

>> No.7152661

>>7152299
you spent money, that's why you're biased. give it time, your neck will break

>> No.7153425

>brought screenless
> it works really good.
Can’t believe you guys tried to convince me to get a screen tablet

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>>7147736
>>7147877
>WOCEM
where can I buy this fake Wacom pen? Google is not giving me any results and mine original Wacom pen broke last week

>> No.7153598

>>7153425
I've went from a screenless Intuos XL that I've used for years to a screen Huion Kamvas Pro 16 that I've also used for a few years and I have to sort of just agree that there's not really one that has advantage over the other and it's basically just whichever one you feel the most comfortable with.

From my experience:

Screenless has more of a learning curve to it, but your neck and posture will love you for it. They're generally more affordable and more portable friendly compared to a screen tablet (unless we're talking about an Ipad.)

The only drawbacks I can really think of is that if you're someone who jumps between digital and traditional, your mind is definitely going to feel a bit of a disconnect. I often had to warmup in a physical sketchbook to calibrate my screenless tablet brain. This wasn't a huge problem, but it's definitely something.

Screen tablets on the other hand feel a bit more natural and the disconnect is much smaller. I think that's the best advantage of a screen tablet overall is that it does feel closer to traditional sketching/painting.

The downsides are obviously that screen tablets tend to be more expensive for smaller real estate. I loved the XL size of my intuos and while I've gotten used to the Kamvas' 16's screen, I do miss being able to do sweeping gestures against the tablet.

Likewise, there are ways to circumvent looking down at the screen tablet and fucking your neck/posture. And if you're like me you can have your setup mirror having a screenless tablet by projecting your workspace onto another monitor.

But yeah, when it comes down to it either one works. The disconnect I mention about a screenless tablet isn't huge or jarring, it's just something that's there if you sketch a ton in a physical sketchbook. If you don't, then just buy a goddamn screenless tablet.

>> No.7153600

>>7150531
Displayport is fine, I use those for my cintiq. Supports 4K res and sound output if you get the right DP2 cable, the Amazon Basics one I bought is fine.

>>7151632
>use flex arm on side of desk close to the front
>pull into lap
>lean back into chair
ez

>> No.7153726

I'm new to drawing but I have an Intuos Medium on the way, is this okay for a screenless?

>> No.7153728

>>7153726
yes

>> No.7153848
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is anyone drawing on a smaller ipad? how is it?
I have a 12" pro and I'm considering the new one being the smaller pro, but I'm not sure. aside from drawing, the 12" feels like a bit much, but I'm worried about the drawing part. Then I saw pic related with the small ipad I'm wondering if I'm being a dk

>> No.7153923

>buy screen less
> don’t want to draw
>Buy screen tablet
>Still don’t want to draw

>> No.7153958
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7153958

just got the xppen android tablet
it's nice, I like the textured mat finish
don't see any major issues with it (after adjusting the offset 5 pixels)
webm related is infinite painter

>> No.7153992

>>7153923
That's normal, anon, I like buying new things way more than I like drawing too.

>> No.7154031

>>7153958
>xppen android tablet
Why did they have to bastardize the pen? Only one button no eraser.

>> No.7154074

how can I get used to a screen-less tablet faster? It's almost as if there was no connection between my hands and what I see the cursor doing.Any tips?

>> No.7154075

>>7154074
>Any tips?
Learn to FEEL it bro

>> No.7154109

>>7154074
I took it out to coffee shops with my laptop to practice gesture drawing. Got over the disconnect pretty quick. Pro tip: make sure the tablet stays oriented flush to the same angle of the laptop or monitor, otherwise your angles will be off.

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>>7154074
do this every day for a month

>> No.7154115

>>7154031
I never use the buttons on pens, but I do find it a bit too thin
I guess it's part of the idea of it being portable

>> No.7154133

>>7153958
>matt finish
i already see an issue
it reduces image quality and dulls the colors
gets dirty over time with your body oils and cheetos
it creates static electricity with every stroke

>> No.7154134

>>7153958
nice, make sure to give us an update down the line if you can
why'd you get it? portability, ease of use, comfort? do you plan to mount it on an arm or just lay it on an angled surface?
still on the fence whether i should pick one up or just go for a new laptop at the same price range: i don't play much vidya, but i am interested in doing more 3d modeling

>> No.7154139

What's the best current multi purpose tablet for drawing. I.e pad vs Samsung with s pen and that apple pen respectively

>> No.7154145

>>7154133
the colors look fine, I'll post an update in a month on how it holds up against dirt
>>7154134
portability, got one of those tablet stands to hold it vertically (you can see the grey supports on the video)
if you're interested in 3d I'd just get a laptop and a screenless tablet

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>>7154145
fair enough
i use drawpile and blender to make most of my stuff (art, animation, 3d maquettes, etc.), so i don't really need anything beefier than an N100
been doing my research on the pad and it seemed like switching over would be relatively painless if i did follow through with it, though

>> No.7154310

>>7154139
S9 ultra is the king

>> No.7154445

>>7154310
The fuck do I do with that thing, other than not drawing?

>> No.7154497

>>7154445
it's big enough to keep refs open while still having enough space to draw
big enough to use desktop UI
big enough to use as a regular display tablet with your desktop

>> No.7154608

>>7154112
For how long? 5~10 minutes, 30 minutes?

>> No.7154728

Why are drawing tablet manufacturers so allergic to making their tablets have an active area in a 16:9 ratio? Old Wacom shit does metric paper which makes a bit of sense at least, but chinkshitters like doing 11x6 or 11x7 which means I have to cut off some active area on the product I paid hard-earned money for in order to have a proper 1:1 translation. Can someone explain to me what the thought process there is?

>> No.7154754

>>7154728
Get a 16:10 monitor, Wacom will map 1:1.

>> No.7154795

https://youtu.be/0w6Hd_Btf8M?si=9fmCuPoqL2feXclE

>> No.7154797

Got m'self a one by wacom. Now I can nodraw in paper and digitally.

>> No.7154833

>>7154795
i remember an interview with one of the persona artists who said he used a drawing tablet with no display until they forced him to use a newer one for persona 5.

That was funny.

>> No.7155191

How bad is getting a screen protector? I'm not sure if I'm pressing too hard to damage it or not

>> No.7155217

>>7154833
and what did he think of it?

>> No.7155311

>>7154795
>>7155217
Ching Huang Mao

>> No.7155486

>>7155311
pyw

>> No.7155958

I have a 27" 16:9 monitor but my drawing tablet is a Wacom Intuos Draw (it's the same size as Intuos small), should I wait till I can buy a bigger tablet or can I use this one?

>> No.7155965

>>7154754
>Wacom Intuos Pro L
>311 x 216 mm active area
>~1.44

>16:10
>1.6

No it doesn't.

>> No.7155969

>>7155958
Drawing is better than not drawing, but once you can afford a bigger tablet, get one. Yours is microscopic, and the bigger the size difference to your monitor, the harder it is to use.

>> No.7156005

>>7155969
atm I'm drawing traditionally, I'm practicing fundies and doing loomis.
Should I keep drawing on paper until I can buy bigger tablet?

>> No.7156015

>>7156005
Just keep drawing on paper then. You're putting off the adjustment period of drawing on a tablet for later, but the exchange is worth it if you can draw more comfortably right now.

>> No.7156221

>>7154145
>the colors look fine
You are a total shill moron. A shill idiot like you is in no position to comment on what's "fine" for prospective customers.

>> No.7156225

>>7147562
Wacom One is not screenless.

>> No.7156231

>>7156221
this is my work >>7156118
can you post yours?

>> No.7156239

>>7156231
he won't, chud can't draw
>Verification not required.

>> No.7156363

>>7156231
Ngmi

>> No.7156384

>>7156225
No one said it was. One by Wacom is though.

>> No.7156386

>>7156384
To be fair Asian have shit naming sometimes

>> No.7156541

>>7155965
It does on my Intuos 4 tablets, I haven't used the latest Intuos Pro tablets.

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having used both in the past month, my verdict is thus:
regarding screenless, despite all of its pros like better posture and better display (monitor), buttons on the pen (vs apple pencil), i'm less inclined to draw on it. Lines don't come out good either, although it can be mitigated with stabilizer. It feels like a chore. I have IPP and it's fun to draw on it, but i also owned (and returned) XP Pen and it just took too much space on my desk and would constantly hijack my cursor because it acted as a second monitor. I really miss buttons on apple pencil and it's a deal breaker for coloring/painting, but that's where i would turn to my intuos 4 large. Also I miss full feature Photoshop on IPP.
TLDR (it wasn't well organized anyway):
screen- drawing
screenless- painting

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>>7147562
hey, can someone help me with a PS problem? i'm using a wacom: Intuos BT M (ctl-6100wl)


my brush is lagging when using photoshop, similar to when you have smoothing activated, but I double checked and i'm sure I disabled it. it's set to 0%
I switched to CSP trial to see if it was a hardware problem but CSP works perfectly, even when i move the pen really fast. I'm too used to PS to switch programs for this.

i already tried adjusting:
- PS performance settings
- intuos tablet settings
- nvida program settings
- even, rollback to PS 2023 (still happens).


i'ts not so horrible it's unusable but... is this happening to someone else? any solutions? it's driving me crazy

>> No.7156583

>>7154074
few quick tips:
> some people tape a sheet of paper over it so it feels more natural. you can also buy a custom tablet "sticker" with grip.
> you can get used to it faster if you use it as a mouse replacement for some time, it will become more intuitive in no time.
> configure the pressure settings properly so it feels confortable, similar pressure than a real pencil.
> tracing a few artworks can help you figure if pressure or brush settings are wrong.
> [ ! ] enable force proportions in settings, if you don't you draw a circle and it comes as an oval. (you can test it yourself, put a coin over the tablet and draw around it).

>> No.7156595

>>7156579
google how to disable windows ink and use wacom drivers in PS

>> No.7156613

>>7156595
i got rid of windows ink, but problem persists. thanks for the try tho.

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>>7156579
>>7156613
i don't have the latest PS, but apparently it has a built in stabilizer
https://youtu.be/nUlkxjUYY9I?si=D087LW32VmYLa4it

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>>7147562
>buy small Cintiq13HD
>don't use it much
>buy fucking huge Cintiq22HD
>use it a bit but it takes a whole fucking niggerspace that I don't have
>really big mistake

>buy the One by Wacom bc why not lol (it's a small screenless tablet)
>literally 0 cable bulk, small, super comfy, I can use the keyboard, my brain/hand coordination is bad but that makes the lines more soul.
Damn I really did a fucking huge mistake with the Cintiq22hd. I'm trying to sell it now but it will most likely be very hard. Wish I would have invested the money in an Intous pro S, the only thing I hate about the One is the shit pen, the ones in the Cintiqs are a pleasure to hold. Screen tablets are a meme

This all thing sucks really bad because I barely draw btw, I don't even know why I bought all that, but at least I now know that buying shit doesn't amount to actually wanting to do something. It was a good learning.

>> No.7156837

>>7156828
You can play osu.

>> No.7156849

Install screen protector on ipad pro or not?

>> No.7156875

>>7156849
Yes. I use a matte Paperlike protector. I originally had a tempered glass protector, but there's like no resistance between the screen and the pen with one of those. Paperlike feels pretty good.

https://paperlike.com/

>> No.7157904
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7157904

$850 AUD ($570 USD) for a used iPad Pro 12.9" 5th gen in "excellent condition".

Worth it? I have a 2nd Gen but it's pretty old now.

>> No.7157919

How bad is drawing on an Android tablet is you're used to keyboard shortcuts?

>> No.7157936

>>7157919
nothing stopping you from connecting a keyboard or shortcut controller
but you get used to the gestures pretty quickly

>> No.7158063

first time on a tablet, I'm wearing off my nibs and creating a sharp angle causing it to sometimes be weird with its lines. Am I holding the pen wrong? Should I hold it straight up instead of like how I hold actual pencils? this is a Wacom Intuos (ctl-6100)

>> No.7158080

>>7158063
it's just what wacoms do

>> No.7158082

>>7157936
>but you get used to the gestures pretty quickly
I don't even know where to check for these on my tablet

>> No.7158088

>>7158082
depends on the app but there's only really a handful of useful gesture controls
two-finger tap to undo, three-finger tap to redo, rest of it is just canvas navigation which is just regular touchscreen navigation

>> No.7158857

>>7158080
so... ease up on the pressure? or time to switch to the other nibs?

>> No.7158932

I still rock a wacom bamboo, but I now have money and should really switch I think.

iPad sounds good hardware wise, like I feel their pen will have little errors, wobbling and the like but its an overpriced product which vendor locks me into apps, I really dont like that. Also relatively pricey still.

Not as pricey as Wacom screens though, I still cant bring myself to invest that much money.

I dont really want chinese product, mainly bc of the bad industry ethics and practices.

what else is there?

>> No.7158935

>>7158932
S8/S9 Plus/Ultra
Magic Drawing Pad

>> No.7158953

>>7158063
Get some 3D printer filament for the nibs. One of the links in the sticky should have more details.

>> No.7158963

How do other aftermarket paperlike screen protectors compare to the actual paperlike official screen protector? Worth it?

>> No.7158997

>>7158932
>bad industry ethics and practices.
lol

>> No.7159138

>>7158932
apple's tech is literally an order of magnitude more precise than wacom's emr, it's actually embarrassing

>> No.7159159

so what's a good budget option for a screen tablet then?
i don't want to fuck with huion anymore and i hate smartphone style bullshit , but i want something small and portable

>> No.7159217

>>7158932
>bad industry ethics and practices.
then dont ever think on touching an ipad lol, they only have the monopoly of tablets for a while because of their closed ecosystem that let them produce a decent drawing app at the time, but now i dont see any reason to not prefer a samsung galaxy tablet, for drawing, because you have clip studio, infinite painter, and others, and we are not in the old times when you couldn't use at 100% the apps because the old hardware dont let you work smooth in a big canvas or a couple of layers, now all the tablets work decent .
For drawing screen tablets, wacom is so overpriced that unless you have the money to waste, buying one is not worth, at all, for any person with a modest budget, not even for the "quality" aspect, because some wacom screenless tablets are so, so overpriced, in some countries, that you can actually get an mid-high tier screenless for another established brand, for half the price, and if they last less, let's say, half of lifetime, you can youse just another one, brandnew generation of their current time, and will still be more cheap than buying the wacom, yeah.
In my country i can get the intous M for like, 150usd, or just get the other brands medium, current generation that have zero tech differences, for half the price, and if you dont care of years, the old models that same as wacom have zero tech differences on several years, you can get them for 1/3 of the price in my country, yes, 1/3 of the price, same pressure leves, same or larger drawing area (generally larger), just more or less buttons.
I wanted to buy a wacom back in the day but for money was a no no, but i've been with this huion screen model for like 4 years non stop drawing and dont even has a scratch in the screen, and it's not even a premium model is a mid tier one.
If you have a modest budget just get any mid tier model from samsung, huion, or xp-pen, not from the other brands like ugee or parblo just because the lack of reviews here

>> No.7159227

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CFNM74TC/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BHYB5YWS/

Sorry which one is the one that's compatible with Samsung tablets?

>> No.7159241

What are the chances they fix the diagonal line wobble on the new ipad pro?

>> No.7159249

>>7158932
>iPad sounds good hardware wise, like I feel their pen will have little errors, wobbling and the like
I've never tried a Wacom screen but I can tell you the Apple Pencil is so far ahead of the chink tablets it gave me really bad buyer's remorse. The limited ecosystem is definitely a problem though.

If you can you should try the iPad (and the Samsung Tabs for good measure) at a store or something and see what apps you need vs. what's available, if you don't like it and you're actually happy with your Bamboo maybe just consider getting a better screenless tablet and monitor instead.

>> No.7159295

>>7158953
Not worth your time imo. I've posted about it in the previous thread >>7137959
You can get 50 or 100 of them from aliexpress and since quality is dogshit anyway it doesn't make any difference if you have genuine wacom nibs or not.

>> No.7159405

new oled ipad pro just unveiled, will you buy it?

I will

>> No.7159412

>>7159405
As a poorfag I'm gonna have to go with the Air

>> No.7159420

Is the new apple pencil pro any good?

>> No.7159429
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7159429

>>7159227
they both work, both use the same EMR tech
I would suggest the second link, it's the older (gen1) pen and has better pressure behavior than the newer pen (first link in your post)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=415ngQOHiME

>> No.7159432

>>7159420
not, if i remember correctly was worst, they remove pressure sensitivity so yeah, shitty overpriced gadget for the fans, for drawfags, you are good with the basic or the second gen, or any cheap alternative with pressure sensitivity.

>> No.7159434

>>7159429
gotcha, thanks bro, is there anything else I should buy right now for it?

>> No.7159441
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7159441

>>7159434
I use the gen1 pen too and I ordered a bunch of picrel to ghetto rig the tablet to hold on to the pen, buy a cheapo TPU case too and just replace as necessary if the adhesive wears out (mine haven't worn out yet and I've been lugging it around daily for a few months)
Other than those, a tabletop laptop/tablet stand is nice to have and my favorite nibs are the official wacom elastomer ones

>> No.7159442

>>7159420
It's not out yet

>> No.7159452

>>7158963
i got ESR 2 Pack Paperfeel screen protector. it's thin but still feels like paper. one thing to note is that the material is polyethylene terephthalate, which is not compatible with pencil feel nibs (but does work well with the default and metal ones).

i just checked out Paperlike and it's the same material.

i like it. i've had a thicker one before (and it was replacable). didn't like it at all. best ones are thin and yet grainy.

>> No.7159454

>>7159138
except you don't need to charge a wacom pen

>> No.7159459

>>7159441
>favorite nibs are the official wacom elastomer ones
Which ones are those?

>> No.7159461

>>7159459
https://estore.wacom.com/en-us/wacom-one-pen-nibs-elastomer-ack24918z.html

>> No.7159462

>>7159405
>oled
once you put a screen protector on it, any potential benefits of oled go out the window.

>> No.7159463

>>7159461
>They are not recommended for tablet surfaces
lol

>> No.7159464

>>7159454
that's aes, it has nothing to do with precision or wobbling

>> No.7159466

>>7159463
for screenless tablets, yes because they wear out from the friction
>deliver enhanced grip while using your Wacom One display
>display

>> No.7159467

>>7159420
no. all these extra features will get in the way of you drawing. they will activate on accident at random, which is why i disable double tap on mine and disable finger painting and gestures. it just breaks the flow and random crap happens and i need to undo or redo.

>> No.7159488

>>7159432
what the fuck are you talking about, retard?

>> No.7159489

>>7159462
I've been on ipad pro since 2017 and I never needed a screen protector.

>> No.7159491

>>7150948
She is retarded.

>> No.7159496

>>7159405
>oled
enjoy having you entire workspace burned into the screen

>> No.7159506

>>7159496
hasn't that been a meme for a decade now?

>> No.7159513

>>7159489
i wouldn't need it either if i didn't use it for drawing. the difference is night and day.

>> No.7159514

>>7159513
how so?

>> No.7159517

>>7159513
I don't need it for drawing, though

>> No.7159522

>>7159514
did you ever try drawing on a glass screen? it's hard to control the line when it's so slippery. that's the reason why all screen tablets have a matt screen.

>>7159517
why are you even in this thread, on this board?

>> No.7159526

>>7159513
does the extra friction really worth the messed up colors tho? i just bought a bunch of softer tips for the better grip

>> No.7159527

>>7159522
>I never needed a screen protector
>i wouldn't need IT either if i didn't use it for drawing
>I don't need IT for drawing, though
Why are you here if you don't speak English? I said I don't need a screen protector for drawing, not that I don't draw, retard. Have you ever held a brush irl?

>> No.7159528

>>7159522
>it's hard to control the line when it's so slippery.
I feel like this is way overblown, I've used screenless, display tablets and regular glass tablets and you get used to it after a few hours.

>> No.7159539

>>7159528
It absolutely is overblown, but most people seemingly have zero fine motor control and carve up their tablets by pressing like cavemen.

>> No.7159541

lmao and here I am wishing my samsung tablet and s pen could have less friction

>> No.7159542

>>7159526
i tried those silicon tips, they drag you down so you can't make a fast line

>>7159527
hurt your feelings?

>>7159528
yeah same here, but metal tip on a matt screen protector feels way different than plastic on glass. i have a light touch, so i can feel the difference.

>> No.7159543

>>7159542
Learn English, thirdie.

>> No.7159550

>>7159543
teach me, senpai.

>> No.7159598

If I'm just gonna draw on the ipad then is there any point in getting pro?

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>>7155217

>> No.7159615
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>>7159609
Wait i just realized that he's still using his intuos 3, lmao what a god

>> No.7159633

>>7159598
depends on how much ram the air has
ram is the layer/size bottleneck
also depends on how long you plan on keeping it, pro is what devs build for, so the pro is going to be able to keep up longer than the air

>> No.7159690

>>7159598
>>7159633
just saw the specs

>air
8-core CPU with four performance cores and four efficiency cores
10-core GPU
16-core Neural Engine
8GB RAM

>pro
>Models with 256GB or 512GB storage:
9-core CPU with three performance cores and six efficiency cores
10-core GPU
Hardware-accelerated ray tracing
16-core Neural Engine
120GB/s memory bandwidth
8GB RAM

>Models with 1TB or 2TB storage:
10-core CPU with four performance cores and six efficiency cores
10-core GPU
Hardware-accelerated ray tracing
16-core Neural Engine
120GB/s memory bandwidth
16GB RAM

16gb is a massive pro if you're serious

>> No.7159707
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7159707

Are Magnetic Screen protectors worth it? I like the idea because I keep messing up the sticker style screen protectors.

>> No.7159741

>>7159707
i have it. it’s too thick, so not worth it

>> No.7159819
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7159819

>had a huion kamvas 13
>first one was working fine for years until its display decided to die when plugged into a shitty gaming laptop
>got a new one, worked for a day then it's display decided to have screen burn-in and constant flickering
>my old artisul d13 dust inside of the display still works fine after all these years, but its colors are so bad and don't even match my monitor
is are there any other artisuls that have better colors and is XP pen good?

>> No.7160027

Any word about the new apple pencil being compatible with last gen pros?

>> No.7160030

Glass screens are so fucking slippery how the FUCK are you supposed to draw on them

>> No.7160045

>>7159542
Ok Chinese screen protector shiller

>> No.7160087

Apparently Wacom has no official support for Linux, rather disappointing if you ask me. Are any of the available solutions (like The Linux Wacom Project) any good?

>> No.7160107

>>7160087
nobody ever asks you people

>> No.7160123

>>7160087
linuxwacom is official
you need a silly cli application to change cintiq screen settings but outside of that linux has the best wacom support (since it works)

>> No.7160129

>>7159690
so new ipad has been revealed

has a favourite variant emerged among artists? Are the Pro features worth it or is the Air enough? Does the Air get the hover cursor?

>> No.7160130

>>7160045
i'm just telling you my experience, why the fuck would i care what you do
go online and get opinions, it's your choice what to do with them
fucking grow up

>> No.7160132

>>7160129
the biggest reason to get the pro over the air was the size, now that they're making 13 inch airs i really don't see the point of the pro anymore

>> No.7160142

i got a screenless tablet to try out digital drawing and I'm struggling bros

>> No.7160148

>>7160030
Get used to it, or get a paper screen protector

>> No.7160152

>>7160142
oh come on, it’s just like using a mouse

>> No.7160155

>>7160152
do you often draw with a mouse?

>> No.7160200

>>7160129
>Are the Pro features worth it or is the Air enough?
Here are the iPad Air's basic specs:

M2 processor

LED Liquid Retina display with 2360x1640 resolution

Storage options: 128GB, 256GB, 512GB, 1TB

WiFi 6E

5G LTE support (optional)

And here are the specs for the iPad Pro:

M4 processor

OLED Ultra Retina XDR display with 2420x1668 resolution

Up to 120Hz refresh rate

Storage options: 256GB, 512GB, 1TB, 2TB

>And interestingly, the iPad Pro has a slightly hidden difference under the hood depending on how much storage you get, per Apple's specs page. The 256GB and 512GB variants have one fewer CPU core than the 1TB and 2TB variants. It's hard to say what, precisely, that means in a practical sense, but hey, it's worth noting.
Basically for pro you get M4, one more core, OLED. Now it has a single camera, it used to have a landscape camera or wide camera or something.
In my opinion the pro looks great for the price but yeah if OLED isn't important for you then ipad air is now a good buy for artists as well. Big question mark is the new pen if it's actually good or not, more features doesn't equal better

>> No.7160202

>>7160155
using a mouse and drawing screenless honestly doesn’t feel any different to me, it’s just dragging a pointer around, i did start out with digital art tho

>> No.7160204

never listen to a guy who draws with a mouse

>> No.7160210

>>7160200
thanks, i'm considering the Air as I assume the refresh rate and non-oled screen is still fine

regarding the pencil, I recall there was a lot of confusion about the gen 2 pencil, where there was supposedly a variant that didn't have pressure sensitivity. But it seems this new one is targeting artists so hopefully no more confusion

>> No.7160212
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7160212

>>7160210

>> No.7160216

>>7160212
god why do they need so many of the same products?

>> No.7160219

>>7160027
>>7160212
I hope it works with the 6th gen pro. Barrel roll and haptic feedback sound interesting.

>> No.7160226

>>7160200
you're missing the part where pro has double the RAM, the one thing that matters for art

>> No.7160228

>>7160226
pyw

>> No.7160229

>>7160226
Only with 1TB and above which is incredibly expensive. Also it's an ipad, not a PC, so "only" having 8GB isn't as a big deal as you might think. From the youtube videos I've seen it's not a big deal unless you use tons of layers or something

>> No.7160234

>>7160229
>from youtube
opinion disregarded
16gb is huge

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7160240

>>7160234
Yeah but there's no point in giving a company money when you don't need to. Unless you're into 3D or something for digital art it's overkill, that's why they always talk about those things about the pro, it's not without reason.

>> No.7160245

>>7160240
no, it isn't
the chips are overkill, ipads are ram starved
remember this conversation when you need to paint big and your 8gb ipad starts chugging and crashing the app
t. guy with a fucking ipad pro

>> No.7160249

>tablets are becoming the dream art tools I always imagined they could be
>but not before AI has arrived to make me question the entire hobby

>> No.7160259

>>7160249
if AI makes you question your love of art, then you fucked up

>> No.7160261

>>7160245
Okay I don't believe you unless you use tons of layers. There's no way that would be a common issue and I can't find anyone talking about it

>> No.7160265

>>7160245
stop using overrated garbage like procreate then

>> No.7160291

>>7160265
nta but what’s wrong with procreate?

>> No.7160298

>>7160291
nta, but battery drain and memory hog
poor layer management because layer window doesn't stay open.

>> No.7160317

>>7160259
this

>> No.7160326

Why does it feel like I'm drawing everything so "big" when doing digital? A small doodle in the corner of a paper turns into a fuck huge thing when I attempt the same in digital. Is it canvas size or a setting or something? It's very jarring.

Using intuos 3 large

>> No.7160327

>Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite
Is this actually a good recommendation? I’m looking for a budget tablet right now and I only have about 250 to spend. My main program is clip studio paint and I need a tablet that doesn’t require me to be hooked up to my pc. I could save up for the s8 but I’m not sure if there’s much of a difference.

Pros and cons of the tablet recommended?

>> No.7160334

>>7160327
Look for used samsung tablets that work with a pen

>> No.7160339

I don't know if I have the mental strength to screenlessmax
having to endlessly ctrl z over and over is ropefuel and I don't feel like I can even draw anymore

>> No.7160356

>>7160339
The same thing will happen with a screen tablet because it's all in your head

>> No.7160387

>>7159227
About to buy this wacom pen for my tablet, how do you even change the tips?

>> No.7160389

>>7160326
I installed my drivers and now everything feels good. I guess mapping was a bit messed up cause now a small doodle feels like a small doodle when I draw. I also noticed pen pressure is working good now and my lines are much straighter with proper mapping. Who knew missing drivers would fuck me up so much.

>> No.7160396

I'm starting to think wacom is evil

>> No.7160401

>>7160389
>Who knew missing drivers would fuck me up so much.

>> No.7160418

>>7160401
Yes it's almost like I might be retarded for not attempting to troubleshoot with the most common and basic solutions first.

>> No.7160554

>>7160148
>paper screen protector
Don't these make the displsy look like shit?

>> No.7160555

>>7160554
At least the S9 tablet paper screen is magnetic so you can put it on or off easily

>> No.7160585

I wish samsung just made an apple pencil clone, because their tablet is much superior, but I hate the s-pen.

>> No.7160631

The new ipad with the new pencil is absolutely insane but getting 16gb ram and the etched screen is reaching wacom prices.

>> No.7160638

>>7160585
how is it superior?

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>>7160631
yeah, I'm torn, I'm still using a second gen pro and this is the first one that's tempting me, but fuck me it's expensive if you want the good stuff
then again, this one's lasted me 7 years of daily use, and I don't see them making any significant art-relevant upgrades in the next 10 years unless there's some massive tech breakthrough in the meantime, so it might be a good time to buy

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>>7160339
i keep switching back and forth between screen and screenless and i can't fucking decide which is better, right now screen feels better but then i will switch again and i will say screenless feels better

also OP is shill bot bullshit, xp pen and huion are great tablets.

>> No.7160657

>>7160638
better build quality, less restricted software, more ram

>> No.7160673

>>7160657
>quality
no
>less restricted software
what software does it have that ipad doesn't?
>more ram
from what I see it tops out at 12gb, ipad topped out at 16gb for years now

>> No.7160674

>>7160673
>>7160657
my bad, the 1tb s9 ultra has 16gb, but that's it

>> No.7160723

>>7160585
They have an S pen Creator edition on amazon that kinda look like it, and also kinda costs like it.

>> No.7160726

THOUGHTS ON TITANIUM NIBS?

>> No.7160739

>>7160726
I have sporks made of titanium, they leave marks on the glazing of ceramic dishes.
Not sure that's relevant for whatever surface its on your tablet but I'd say get them in stainless steel if you have to.

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7160869

>tab s8 ultra is $700
Convince me not to get it

>> No.7160935

is anyone holding out for the 2024 Surface Pro?
It'd be good to have a windows device with good pen tech if they can improve it

>> No.7160972

>>7160869
heh I bought an S9 Ultra for $600, because there was a 50% offer on it if you had one of those flip/fold phones. Got a friend with one of those and boom easy.
That said, unless you're maried to apple, it's amazing and you should jsut get it

>> No.7161031

>>7160673
https://youtu.be/qKLS6-mz7bk?si=1BJzaSnNwrTAsRGo&t=405
https://youtu.be/EIjjpOJ0ghg?si=C55yxW3Db8_mjIwC&t=520

>> No.7161075

>>7160972
How do you like the S pen?

>> No.7161081

>>7161075
Other than it being thin I have no complaints, I have a wacom one pen on the way anyways.
I suppose it's just a shame it's not the S pen Creator edition this guy mentioned >>7160723

>> No.7161088

>>7161081
I actually bought the creator edition and used it for a while, it's alright but I prefer the wacom one pen
It feels less precise and has higher IAF, basically performs like the regular S pen but with a bigger tip and thicker body
No way to get nib replacements though and the one time I tried to use it with a screen protector it shaved down visibly over just an hour or two of sketching

>> No.7161090

>>7161088
Damn ok, nevermind then lol it just looks neat I guess. Wacom one pen, I'm just wondering on if these titanium tips are good and won't scratch the fuck out of everything

>> No.7161157

>>7161090
Why not get a screen protector?

>> No.7161197

might buy an iPad pro
will the one with the smallest storage be enough?

>> No.7161210

>>7161031
that's not what build quality means

>> No.7161214

>>7161210
then what does it mean please enlighten us

>> No.7161218

>>7161214
sure, right after you answer the questions you're dodging about your claims of more ram and less restricted software
don't even bother replying if you're going to act like a kike again

>> No.7161223

>>7161218
I'm not even the anon you were replying to the first time but sure
>software
being able to sideload apps immediately makes it objectively less restrictive
>RAM
idk what you want here, they come with comparable amounts of RAM but anything above 6gigs won't cause you any issues for a few more years at least
I will concede that iOS (or iPadOS) has better ram management on the software end but the galaxy is a multitasking beast even with 12 gigs of ram
your turn

>> No.7161225

>>7161223
yes you are, faggot, random faggots don't get butthurt about other people being called out
>being able to sideload apps immediately makes it objectively less restrictive
that's on answering the question, you little kike
and neither is the other cope, you said it has more ram
what did I say about replying?

>> No.7161229

>>7161225
average apple cultist
I accept your concession

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>> No.7161234

>>7147562
Is s6 lite still the best cheaper Android option? 4gb ram seems pretty awful

>> No.7161238

>>7161234
Yeah it's still the rock bottom budget option, 4 gigs is awful but usable if you don't do much multitasking and app switching
Magic Drawing Pad is the next best option but it's a bit more pricy

>> No.7161240

>>7161234
>4gb ram seems pretty awful
It's not just awful, it's borderline unusable.

>> No.7161243

>>7161234
Anyone saying saying 4gb is usable is a begtard at best and an actual shill at worst.

>> No.7161263

>>7161197
Depends if you're gonna use it for media but even references can start adding up or if you're gonna import whatever.

>> No.7161270

>>7161223
I'm convinced anyone shilling Samsung on the internet are paid astroturfers. Doesn't matter if only 20 people frequent this thread, they are paid by the post. Show us your workflow on a samsung device because the arguments about sideloading to save $25 a year is ridiculous.

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>>7161270
i accept your concession

>> No.7161487

>>7161234
I don't know enough about other tablets to claim that it's the best cheap option, but it's certainly an option. I personally preferred investing in a good screenless tablet because they're cheaper and sturdier.
>>7161240
I'm using it right now and it's fine. I like it more than using an ipad because the pen isn't as heavy and my arms are weak. Although the s6 is rather narrow... If it hadn't been so utterly cheap, I'd have gotten an s9 fe+ instead. I haven't encountered any performance issues so far other than that it crashed one time for some reason.
>>7161243
I'll admit that I'm beg and am only using it to draw comics. I'm not some professional digital artist who needs a million layers on 1k DPI resolution nor do I use 3D models with my beg little comics, but if I were, I'd still use the s6 for sketches and ideas and do the more heavy duty stuff on my computer with my intuos pro which is probably a decade old by now but still works perfectly.

I decided on the s6 because it works and is cheap which means it won't hurt as much when I inevitably break it the moment the warranty runs out...

>> No.7161520

>>7161487
i already have a screenless tablet
I just want one I can take outside or travel with or sketch in bed
I might get the s6 lite or s9 fe if i can find it cheaper

>> No.7161530

>>7161520
if by outside you actually mean outside, that doesn't exist, don't fall for any meme

>> No.7161536

>>7161530
huh?

>> No.7161538

>>7161530
just because you don't go outside doesn't mean nobody else does

>> No.7161540

>>7161536
no screen can overpower the sheer amount of light outside to be usable for art

>> No.7161542

>>7161540
this nigga lives in the fucking sahara

>> No.7161545

no (You)s for larping retards, never reply to me again

>> No.7161548

>>7161540
maybe not in direct sunlight but 700 nits should be enough in shade or on a cloudy day

>> No.7161550

>>7161548
there's also an issue of keeping the device cool enough otherwise battery life will diminish.

>> No.7161552

>>7161548
NTA but not really, maybe if we assume magical zero reflection screen, but in reality, those 700 nits are competing with ALL environmental light it reflects, there's a reason all outside monitors have built in sunscreens. Maybe you could doodle in it, but forget anything about value.
Also most tablets will fucking melt outside even in mild weather, I've destroyed a full plastic e-reader just using it in mild heat, forget about aluminium, that battery is toast.

>> No.7161625

>>7161520
for going outside use a real sketchbook and pen
it's cheaper, easier to impress normies and arthoes with
just better all around

>> No.7161661

>>7161487
I got an S6 Lite yesterday as well. I'm a complete retard beginner but it's fine enough so far and fucking dirt cheap. It's definitely shit for multitasking but I don't plan on using it for anything else.

>> No.7161664

>>7161661
Why are you trying to multitask?

>> No.7161674

>>7161530
>>7161538
>>7161540
>>7161548
This is what eink is for
>But muh colors
Colors will look like shit in direct sunlight no matter the display

>> No.7161679

>>7161664
I'm not, people were just talking about the RAM being an issue for multitasking earlier in the thread.

>> No.7161681

>>7161674
Have they made an e-ink display with a refresh rate higher than a woman's period yet?

>> No.7161689

>>7161681
Check out the boox tablets with BSR, it's subpar compared to normal displays but amazing for e-ink

>> No.7161699

>>7161689
>BSR
Didn't hear about that, cool.
Still, it's $500 for a worse sketchbook

>> No.7161788

a normal screen protector is fine to use for my screen tablet right?

>> No.7161806

am i retarded or are matte screen protectors completely fucking useless for the ipad? i've tried two different ones now and they both have a problem where some parts of the screen will randomly be way more slippery than others. so i'll be drawing a line and it'll suddenly go from having good resistance to speeding up like it's on glass. it's nothing like paper at all, there's no consistency to it. am i doing something wrong? no one else seems to have this problem

>> No.7161812

>>7161806
Clean your sweat/oils from the screen

>> No.7161813

>>7161812
it gets slippery spots literally within a minute of using it

>> No.7161835

>>7161806
i never had that problem

>> No.7161876

Do you guys use protectors with screenless tablets? Is there even a point?

>> No.7161896

>>7161520
For travel and sketching in dimly lit hotel rooms or bars, a display tablet should be just fine. But if you're legit going out in the sun, there's nothing that beats traditional materials like pencil & paper.
I do use my s6 to sketch in bed though. Just remember to get up every now and then so that your calves can pump your blood back up your body and your back doesn't distort due to years of neglect and inactivity and actually my tailbone hurts right now and I really need to go to the gym and just be careful, please don't end up like me, maybe you can sketch with your tablet at the library or a friend's place instead of spending all day in bed and getting shoulder and wrist pain from only moving your drawing muscles...

>> No.7162072

looking for a tablet, ideally < $600, with the following criterias
- has pen drawing
- can play Genshit Impact without it being a slideshow
- Android
thanks

>> No.7162076

>>7162072
Then check out Samsung Tab S series Genshin reviews and get the most expensive one that's under $ 600 if that's really all you're looking for.

>> No.7162094

>>7161876
I used to keep the plastic foil my intuos was delivered with on it. I don't know if it did anything for the tablet, but it sure kept my pen nib intact. I eventually took it off and now I miss it...

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>> No.7162372

>want to draw for my friends from time to time, just planning to do shit for fun and not much else
>want to draw planes and cars, but without a tablet, my only real option is to just take a screenshot and trace over it with paths
What should I buy? I don't need anything incredible, this is all just for fun.