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After putting it off for a year and a half I finally sat through all of Umineko 8.

I wish I could unlearn the single truth of that entire episode. Bah.

>> No.11134010

don't you mean two years and a half

>> No.11134026

Should have not read it at all and kept the illusion that it might be good.

>> No.11134070

>>11134026
If you are under the illusion that you think it's good, then you'll want to read it. If you don't want to read it in order to not dispel that illusion, then you don't really think it will be.

>> No.11134077

>>11134010
Whatever it was.

I dunno. I wasn't overly disappointed but it seemed kind of self-referential and padded a little long. Also, Ange sucks more than anything that sucks before.

>> No.11134078

>>11134070
I liked how it made direct reference to this.

>> No.11134080

>>11134003
5 is where we should have all stopped

soon im sure ill start reading rose gun days

god help me

>> No.11134091

>>11134080
Not bothering with RGD, I'll wait for the next When They Cry entry and the continuing adventures of NippahCat and CandyGirl.

>> No.11134095

So what was the final truth that happened on the island in the 'Eva Escapes and Ange is sad in '98' scenario?

>> No.11134098

>>11134003
As if Lucifer wouldn't be down with Battler cock.

>> No.11134097
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>amnesia end

>> No.11134102

>>11134097
Original and unique ending do not steal how dare you not like it are you a goat

>> No.11134122
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>>11134003
>Not using the PS3 patch
ishiggydiggy

>> No.11134125

after reading ep 7 i didnt feel the need to play ep 8, mostly because all of you said it was terrible, but maybe i will go ahead and just get it out of the way like OP did

>> No.11134133

>>11134125
it's just as open ended as the previous. but with gimmicks and two endings.

>> No.11134134
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>>11134125

I couldn't even make it through ep7. All my interest just died after ep6 because it had gotten so fucking meta and ridiculous

Also they tried their damndest to make Beatrice into a waifu, and after ep3 she still made my blood boil, so I hated the entire idea of just "unmaking" her character like that

>> No.11134167

>>11134134
Just like Higurashi, the Question Arcs are awesome but the Answer Arcs are dogshit.

>> No.11134171

>>11134102
I'll admit, I lol'd when internet trolls = goats.

But 1998 internet? Ewwww.....

>> No.11134173

But who was murderer?

>> No.11134176

>>11134167
Remember when Umineko 1-4 were fucking awesome?

>> No.11134181

>>11134173

everyone except natsuhi, she is pure

>> No.11134186

>>11134176
The music is pretty good.

>> No.11134189

>>11134181
She tried to murder a baby, Natsuhi a shit.

>> No.11134196

>>11134173

A witch did it.

Silly people, still believing it's a mundane murder-mystery.

>> No.11134230

>>11134176
4 was mostly shit. It had two good parts Kinzo fucking kids up and the cousins fight but aside from that it was pretty awful. 5 was better.

>> No.11134234

>>11134173
Kyrie was the murderer and Yasu was her accomplice. She left Ange at home and was going to kill everyone, including Yasu, then set off the bomb and escape to the submarine base which was listed on government maps when Rokkenjima was a military outpost. The second mansion was not on these maps and unknown to Kyrie at the time. Without everyone dead, she would inherit all the family fortune and business interests, and would be able to search the island for the gold at her own leisure.

Eva had already attempted to solve the Witch's Epitaph previously and finally succeed, finding the gold, the bomb and the tunnel to Kowardian.

Kyrie began murdering people with Rudolf revealing before his death that Battler was her biological son. Not wanting to kill her own child, she decided she would escape to the sub base with Battler after revealing Yasu to him after everyone else was dead and leaving Kyrie the only one he could trust.

Unfortunately, Yasu caught on and double crossed Kyrie herself leaving her to die in the explosion with the corpses of the murdered family. Eva escaped to Kowardian, Battler and Yasu escape to the sub base.

Witches are full of shit.

>> No.11134240

>>11134230
Didn't 4 have Krauss manning up and punching the shit out of goats though?

>> No.11134245

>>11134240
Yeah that was fun. I completely forgot about it.

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11134278

I fucking despise all of you haters.

>> No.11134289

>>11134167
The Higurashi anime doesn't exist.

>> No.11134294

Why does /jp/ hate Umineko so much?

I'm perfectly fine with Yasu. You guys didn't understand shit.

>> No.11134298

>>11134294
EP8 haters are the butthurt fans that never understood the series.

It just so happens that those make up the majority of the fanbase.

>> No.11134302
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>>11134294
It brought over a lot of /a/ posters after ep4, when the anime aired. After that, it went from murder mystery to fantasy drama, while the fanbase had been heavily discussing mystery theories. The heavy discussion and response to that transition caused problems for /jp/, with way too many Umineko threads appearing which mostly consisted of 'SHKANON IS THE ANSWER ARE YOU BLIND' and 'SHKANON IS FUCKING RETARDED SHUT UP'

Then, to differentiate themselves from the retards, posters started hating on Umineko. It's as much of a reaction to Umineko fans as it's genuine disappointment with the direction the story went.

>> No.11134323

>>11134302
What's wrong with Shkanon and how is it retarded? Did they even bother to understand it?

I personally liked 1-4 better, but Chiru was also very enjoyable. It certainly didn't turn into utter shit, so I can't see why so many people hate it with such a passion.

>> No.11134325

>>11134234
>Kyrie began murdering people with Rudolf revealing before his death that Battler was her biological son.

Wait, what? How would a mother not know her son was *actually hers*?

>> No.11134368

>>11134325
Rudolf admitted he switched babies at the hospital between Kyrie and Asuma because he is a massive cunt.

>> No.11134374

>>11134302
Most people who hate on Umineko are the Johnny-Come-Lately's and say it sucks to appear 'hip' and 'with it'.

>> No.11134371

>>11134368
Rudolf's cock did Rokkenjima.

>> No.11134376

>>11134371
Rudolf's cock, Kinzo's cock and Eva's lack of a cock.

>> No.11134381

>>11134323
>Shkanon

The only thing I never got was when they appeared in front of the family, excluding Kinzo, together.

Also, how did Kanon tape down those massive cow tits?

>> No.11134379

>>11134374

Guy-who-lost-interest-at-start-of-7 here. I think it fell flat and I had been following it from EP1 onward

>> No.11134382
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Why are the adults so fucking old? They are all in their late 40's/early 50's, except Rosa.

Rosa is the best and her aspie daughter is the prettiest seacat.

>> No.11134388

>>11134379
You dropped the entire episode just because the beginning fell flat?

>> No.11134386

>>11134379
I think the later half was padded way too much with nonsensical bullshit. It didn't really need 4 episodes to explain stuff and even then they didn't answer everything.

I remember playing up to 5 and loving every bit of it.

>> No.11134391

Started out great but got lost up it's own ass and farted out a lacklustre end.

>> No.11134396

>>11134381
>Also, how did Kanon tape down those massive cow tits?
doesn't it make more sense that it's dfc instead and the cow tits are the fake?

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11134397

fuck I hate Sakutaro

>> No.11134398

>>11134388
a LOT of people did.

>> No.11134400

>>11134396
Beato's low cut dresses showed off those real udders.

>> No.11134403

>>11134388

That's a pretty fascinating misinterpretation of what I said

For your information, it was mostly 6 that did it. After how atrocious it was, my care-o-meter was depleted something fierce, so 7's beginning just finished me off

>> No.11134406

>>11134400
well there's also the "you can't take sprites at face value" point

>> No.11134408

>>11134381
>when they appeared in front of the family together
When did they do that? If you mean EP5, that was a tricky scene in a tricky game. It was told from Battler's perspective, but he wasn't the detective.

Basically, Lambda and Bern were scribbling on the gameboard and throwing pieces to each other. EP5 is all fucked up.

>how did Kanon tape down those massive cow tits
He never had cow tits to begin with.

You have to understand that the whole Shkanon thing is only true for the gameboards. Kanon probably "never" existed in the real world.

Shkanon was able to fool everyone for two years because she was written that way. She was really lucky.

>> No.11134410

>>11134382
I'd lick Maria's vagina.

>> No.11134414

>>11134403
EP6 was pretty boring and nonsensical when I read it for the first time. It's still boring as shit.

I don't see how that would be enough to make me stop caring about the series. Is it because of Shkanon or something like that?

>> No.11134416

>>11134408
So if Kanon didn't exist, Jessica was lezzing it up with Shanon in reality?

>> No.11134438

>>11134416
Real Jessica was lonely, that's why Kanon was written into the story.

EP8 hints that the school festival scene happened in real life. Jessica asked Shannon to go with her in a Kanon disguise. Jessica's friends are the only people in the world that ever saw Kanon and believed he was real.

>> No.11134443

>>11134410
Ewww, she's a child!

>> No.11134441

>>11134416
I want to fuck Jessica's hairy pussy and white ass.

>> No.11134444

>>11134397
The fact that Maria is eating implies that she has an ass.

I'm so horny, /jp/.

>> No.11134449

>>11134416
Nobody knows. There's no proof of a lot of things happening on the game boards.

>The only thing I never got was when they appeared in front of the family, excluding Kinzo, together.
It never happened. That's what first tipped people off between ep3 and ep4; Kanon and Shanon never, ever appeared together in a scene from Battler's perspective. Only in episode 5 is there a scene when this happens, but it's first hinted at that Battler's narration is unreliable in that episode (he sees Kinzo at some point), and later in that episode confirmed that Erika's viewpoint is the only reliable one as she's the detective for that episode, not Battler.

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>>11134416

>> No.11138947

>>11134189
the baby had it coming, fuck you

>> No.11139775

>>11134443
a dead one even

>> No.11139804

I swear to god that Lucifer is the only stake that deserves to be screwed mindlessly.

>> No.11140763

Wait, why are people calling EP6 nonsensical?
The whole thing makes a lot of sense in the context of EP7...

>> No.11140802

>>11134080
I didn't hate RGD.
It just sort of went everywhere and nowhere at once. Some of the characters are good, most aren't. Miguel and Caleb had a pretty interesting dynamic, but it doesn't go anywhere.
The ending of the first one is also really shitty.
Haven't gotten around to reading the second...
The music in general gets a C minus. Like three really good tracks with the rest being mediocre.

>> No.11141527

Umineko is sort of like the Evangelion of VNs.

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I really dug Higanbana. Though, in general I like bullying stories. It's too bad that the trans of 2nd Night will take forever.

Also, the Japanese character ranking poll is completely messed up.

>> No.11144112

I still detest the concept that you are allowed to count personalities as people.

>> No.11145521

>>11141535
I'd cut my thumb off for the translation to be done already.
Although, I sped through the whole thing the whole thing in Japanese and it doesn't actually look very interesting....
I'm still hopeful!

>> No.11145544

>>11144112
There was probably a better solution planned originally but BT died before he could tell R07 what it was.

>> No.11153404

>>11134134
I don't think you understood. They weren't "remaking" her character. Battler was actually playing an allusion to Kinzo in that episode. In fact, he pretty much WAS Kinzo's story played out in a not-so-subtle way. Kinzo lost the love of his life, went insane, and raised a daughter to be like her. However, she couldn't actually be Beatrice. She tried and tried her best for father's approval. She wanted to be what her father wanted to be, but was confused because of her lack of knowledge and understanding. Kinzo was a dick to her, but eventually, with the help of the servants, she managed to become a person close enough to her mother to please her father. Kinzo thought of it as a miracle, Beatrice had actually been revived! That's what the story was. It wasn't really Beato, it was telling the story of Kinzo and Yasu's mother.

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