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>>31563642
Trivia: In 351 AD a philosopher Eusebius of Myndus related to Julian the Apostate, the Roman Emperor at the time, his meeting with Maximus of Ephesus, in which the theurgist invited him into the temple of Hecate and, chanting a hymn, caused a statue of the goddess to smile and laugh, and her torches to ignite.

>>31563642
Trivia: In 351 AD a philosopher Eusebius of Myndus related to Julian the Apostate, the Roman Emperor at the time, his meeting with Maximus of Ephesus, in which the theurgist invited him into the temple of Hecate and, chanting a hymn, caused a statue of the goddess to smile and laugh, and her torches to ignite

>>31563956
>caused a statue of the goddess to smile and laugh, and her torches to ignite
That stuff sounds less and less credible each time.
Sometimes I wonder if they were smoking something as they recorded things, or if the statue was a person to begin with.

Happy New Year loreposters

If we assume that Yuyuko is the daughter Saigyō Hōshi (1118-1190), that would make her only then a thousand years old during PCB (takes place in 2004). It was also said, that Yuyuko was present and dead during the first Genso-Lunar War. That means that the War took place not over, but less than a thousand years ago, maybe not even 900 years ago.

Also, assuming that Saigyō was her father, she and Mokou are distant relatives, since Fuhito Fujiwara (Mokou's father) was also an ancestor of Saigyō

>>31570371
>or if the statue was a person to begin with.
Sounds like a cushy job.

>>31606514
>lso, assuming that Saigyō was her father, she and Mokou are distant relatives, since Fuhito Fujiwara (Mokou's father) was also an ancestor of Saigyō
I can't believe it.
That would mean Mokou and Kaguya's dispute would be a dispute between royal blood.

>>31614440
eh, but of course I'm bullshitting.

>>31563642
Tried redrawing her

>>31623103
Nice.
I see her as more of a wizard though. The shoulders are more triangleish to give the impression of wizard robes.

>>31563642
But post more for dummies.

>>31642581
?

>>31642581
What?

>>31661850
He won't answer I guess.
I think he means the ill informed rather than actual idiots.

I legitimately forgot some stuff.

>>31642581
??

And the most confusing post this year goes toooooooo
Anonymous!

>>31606514
got anything else?

>>31725958
That looks like a skull in the thumbnail.
Definitely not intentional.

Dolls in pseudo paradise mentioned that one of the honest men turned into a youkai the moment he stepped into gensokyo, why is that?

>>31735624
It's likely because Youkai can be manifestations of stuff like anger or basically any negative emotion. Gensokyo is where Youkai thrive, so it's not far-fetched for that to happen.
A snake on the outside world in one of the FS chapters which ate a human instantly became a Youkai and manifested into Gensokyo.

>>31735624
I still think the killer was Alice.

>>31744235
Can't be
She's too nice

>>31744434
>She's too nice
If you say so

It's canon that Apollo landings were seen by Lunarians as a real threat, and that they were ready to wage a war against NASA. Also – our weapons weren't inferior to theirs.

Source: Kaguya's Profile in Imperishable Night

>>31757032
I kinda wonder, what did they mean by "exploiting power of the moon"? Had astronomers started mining moon's resources in Touhou universe? Is Touhou's Outside World more advanced than our real one?

>>31757032
>we've been urging them to co-exist peacefully with us, but they never listen
TRANSLATION : We kinda sorta fucked up in attacking a pair of humans 50 years ago, now we need every rouge bunny that deserted the Lunarian Military to come back and help out.
Also,
>urging them
Have you tried speaking English woman?

>>31757032
>But don't worry, we have the wisdom and pride of our millennia of history

>>31765987
The history they can't conceal.
What a waste of resources.

>>31757254
>Is Touhou's Outside World more advanced than our real one?
I don't know that for certain.
IIRC, the time there flows the same as it does here. It is neither faster or slower.

>>31744235
The killer was the girl in the cover.

>>31778210
Ah, Reimu again.

How many Touhou youkais can you spot on this picture?

How many Touhou youkais can you spot in this picture?

Kyouko
Banki
Aya
Ran
Kagerou?
multiple Kappa, so one of them is Nitori.
Kogasa

>>31800586
Kyouko
Banki
Aya
Ran
Kagerou?
multiple Kappa, so one of them is Nitori.
Kogasa
I don't think half counts. Then there's the question of if you can count Tengu as youkai.

Anyone else want to take a stab at it?

>>31765987
Glorious

>>31819578
TAKE THIS!!!

>>31825714
No!

>>31800586
There's also Mamizou. I'm not quite sure what that ghost looking thing is.

>>31842974
I was thinking either Yuyuko, or Youmu since there's another ghost. I don't think either would be correct. There's also Tojiko but I don't think she counts as a youkai.

>>31825301
The only thing that makes it better is that they were practically unarmed against a full Lunarian military and won with no casualties.

>>31800586
One more, Hatate.
I saw the phone and thought of Usami.

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About Lily.
Is she just the spring fairy for the sake of the series or is there anything more to her besides getting eaten by a youkai every year?

Hecate made her first appearance in "Theogony" (~700BC), and that makes her the oldest Touhou character from real-life chronology's perspective. The second oldest woulde be Junko, mentioned for the first time in "Tianwen" (~200BC).

Majority of the "old" Touhou youkais are really only as olds as Kojiki (712) or even younger. That makes them Mokou's contemporaries.

Many youkais wanted to eat Reimu, because in it was believed that eating flesh of a sacred man makes one stronger, like in The Journey to the West, where youkais tried to devour the monk Sanzang.

>>31800586
me on the right

>>31933777
isn't the plural of youkai the same as singular?

>>32026243
Yes
In fact, that's the case for almost all Japanese words weebs use but they don't care

>>31757032
So basically: Outside World (Our World)>Moon Capital>Gensokyou

Doesn't this mean that the potency of the gods and yokai power is literally trash? I mean, if they can beat a bunch of unorganized humans with barely any weapondry then they aren't that strong. Wouldn't this imply they are actually very weak (as opposed to how the fandom portrays them) and their powers and overall strength are heavily overhyped?

>>32027499
Gensokyo is literally the last bastion of youkai because they lost to advances of humanity and they doomed.Though they are powerful but only if you believe. Some angsty teen can easily overpower everybody with power of atheism.Theoretically

>>32029951
>Some angsty teen can easily overpower everybody with power of atheism
Alright guys, I'm going to kill all gods in Gensokyo. Wish me luck *tips fedora*

>>32027499
>Doesn't this mean that the potency of the gods and yokai power is literally trash?
Mainly because they rely on human minds to sustain themselves. Without that, they're basically useless and would fade from existence in time.
Heck, you could even rewrite some of them. If you could, you could have a youkai become something else entirely if you got enough people to believe it.

>>31989255
That's a beautiful drawing. The Aki sisters only improve upon it.

>>31563956
What is it with Titans like Hecate and Prometheus being less dickish to humanity than the Olympians, anyway?

So what's up with the light of the moon anyways? why did it create youkai?

>>32068256
I have headcanon that yokai are created by moonies. It goes along the line of moonies and heaven realm as related because heavenly gods canonically are moonies and heaven is chinese heaven as far as I know with jade emperor and shit.If so then moonies is just hyperpower heaven dweebs that think full of themselves.Because if we look at Ministry of Right and Wrong who are hell faction they exist outside of belief factor because all after dead will come to them believing or not so they either accumulate ungodly amount of faith which can be done through souls of the damned actually or their planar existence does not require faith in the first place. In support of this if I not mistaken Hecatia actually doesn't need faith and isn't goddess in usual sense it's just a title for her. And as such moonies created yokai and earthly gods for their gains against humanity.

So in short and without bullshit moonlight forced or not conjure human mind into creation of yokai

>>32068256
Humanity was once enthralled, mystified, and terrified of the unknown. The light of the moon pierces the veil of darkness of the night, creating the shadows of what they believed once laid in the dark as they danced under the moonlight. The fear of the unknown things lurking in the dark and attempts to rationalize then-unexplainable phenomena created the idea of supernatural beings which in turn created youkai and gods. To put it in a different context, the light of the moon contextualized the primordial fear of the dark and the unknown by providing said fears with vague shapes, which humanity's collective unconsciousness shaped into myths and legends.

Youkai are born, live, and die in the unconscious minds of humanity, which is why they are dependent on faith to exist, much like the gods. I think the best way to summarize would be that it technically isn't the light of the moon itself that creates youkai, but humanity's reaction to what they saw under the moonlight.

>>32073247
>So in short and without bullshit moonlight forced or not conjure human mind into creation of yokai
It's all just superstition. Take that away and youkai all disappear.

>>32073247
>>32080637
In Lovecraftian lore, youkai were born from cutted tendrils of Azathoth (primordial god of chaos), that then were given their shapes by the beliefs of humans.

>>32080637
So does this mean that in the end, it'll just be Nue and Rumia?

>>32086114
>youkai were born from cutted tendrils of Azathoth (primordial god of chaos)
More on this? I never read Lovecraft

>>32100194
I don't remember where did I read about this. It definitely was in some book about Lovecraftian mythos, but I'm not sure whether it was Lovecraft's or some other author's.

>>32118907
ok.

>>32090163
Yeah, Nue is unknown and Rumia is darkness. Yokai are hinged on human conscience but whether they can survive without it when those things exist on their own is a separate story.
One possibility is that both loose their humanoid forms once all is said and done.

>>32080637
>Humanity was once enthralled, mystified, and terrified of the unknown
Still is to some extent.
The years to come will be interesting. Please don't let this be another prediction.

>>32149265
>Still is to some extent.
But it's much harder now. One of my favourite youkai is the yamabiko. People really justified echoes as a dog shouting words back at them. Now though, we know it's all air waves and shit. We can pretty much explain everything, down to how emotion work (mostly.) There's no wonder to the world anymore.
The most you unknown thing people can think of now is the deep sea and space, but it's only because we haven't been there, once we do it'll be all "oh it's all electrons doing x and y" shit.

>>32153924
That's true but knowing the unknown means nothing when the public either knows very little about it or a few people learn about it and forget it. It's less fear now than it is "I don't know."
Yes, things are explained more now, but it doesn't mean people don't have a fear of the unknown. People still fear the dark even though nothing is there. That hasn't changed.

>>32073247
>if we look at Ministry of Right and Wrong who are hell faction they exist outside of belief factor because all after dead will come to them believing or not so they either accumulate ungodly amount of faith
How does that work. I'm not making any sense of it. Judgement comes, everyone knows that. What I don't understand is the belief portion.

>>32057448
Zeus is a powertripping fag and so are his siblings atop Mount Olympus.
The Titans are closer to the primordial side than the greek gods side, take that as you will.

I'm not sure where to ask this so I'll try here
does anyone know where you can find raws of touhou manga? I wanted to see what the original text was on some of them

>>32200451
I don't know. Try mangadex if possible. The pages get posted on other imageboards, but I've never been to 5ch so I don't know if they leak stuff there.

>>31563642
In japanese tradition it is said, that a kitsune grows a new tail every 100 years. Ran has 9 tails, and was probably born with on tail, so it means she’s at least 800 years old. We first see her in PCB (takes place in 2004), so she was born in or before 1204…

But there is also other tradition of estimating kitsune’s age – according to it, kitsune with 9 tails is 1000 years old, making Ran at least 1000 years old (born in or before 1004).

>>32213451
It makes sense considering Yukari is around 1200 years old. That's still a long time for either to know eachother assuming Yukari swiped her a few years after her "birth"

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>>32200451
From what I've learned from lurking here, the scanlators basically hoard raws.

>>32245241
Scanlating non touhou shit here, and that's not really true, Scans get scanned by people either living in or ordering from Japan and most of them ask you to pay for a link. After which you get your raws.

>>32245241
Translating non-touhou stuff here, scanlators don't really hoard the raws, more the actual scanners keep their scans and ask you to pay for the raws of a series (though it's quite cheap and they generally just give you all of them at once but that depends on who you ask)

>>32249869
>ask you to pay for the raws of a series
Sell or buy? What about the pages?

>>31933777
Zounose was right, Meiling is a monster.

>>32262985
>Zounose was right
It's your fault for believing youkai. They were never your friend.

Refer

>>32262536
Scanners buy the manga/book/whatever, unbinds and scans the pages.
Then he keeps those scanned pages and you need to find find out who scanned what, contact them and then they either give you the pages for free if they're really nice, or asks for payment first.

>>32293669
>they either give you the pages for free if they're really nice, or asks for payment first.
Makes sense.
Unbinding makes it easier, but I don't see why (unless it cost a hefty amount) anyone would charge a large amount for just the pages considering the state. Keep fighting the good fight. You're doing everyone a service if you're reading this.

The world Youkai has become popular in Meiji period, before that the japanese used to have many words to describe all supernatural creatures and phenomena, like Yūrei, Bakemono or Mononoke. The older youkai in Touhou probably remember these worlds, maybe they still use them.

>>32306525
Interesting.
They might ring a bell to the older youkai, but I don't know if it would be used commonly to describe them. They probably still see more use over just "youkai" however

>>32306525
I like that yuuka is still yuuka while everyone else has a more traditionally "Youkai-like" form. But Im at a loss as to why?

>>32316827
Interesting point. I'm not sure why either.
Then again, it's Yuuka. It's probably best that you recognize her at a glance.

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(don't die pls)

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>>32027499
Moon Capital is probably not too far ahead of Gensokyo. They have numbers, but those numbers are useless when you consider how many more there are around Reimu and Marisa's caliber.

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>>32391592
Quiet story nights with Suika.

>>32430924
Don't follow the Tanuki.
That's the worst decision you could possibly make.

>>32416995
What kind of stories would she tell?

>>32447365
Fun stories I hope. she probably has a number of stories, some good.
Asking about Kasen might be a good place to make your way towards after a while.
Just don't drink too much or else you won't remember any of it.

>>32457673
Life at the shrine must be peaceful most days. I can see why extra chatter would be annoying.

>>32448490
Sounds great. I would love to learn more about their relationship and past.

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What historical/mythological figures do you want to see in Touhou?

>>32484184
Not all of the Greek gods. They're a chore. More titans would be nice. Backtracking a bit, seeing Ares vs Kanako might be a sight to behold.

>>32475245
Same. It's a shame it'll never happen though.

Bump.

Roaring thunder...

I wonder if a fairy disappears once her nature is no longer present.
Does she remain or does she vanish?

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>>32564656
Winter mornings with Akyuu

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Found a sumi

>>32484184
Moar oni would be nice. We still need a fourth one.

>>32630952
The only problem is the question of who it'll be. Speculation is possible, but I don't know off the top of my head how many others there are.