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Someone in a previous thread a while back said that there were games that have never been 1cced no bombed before, what were they?

>>33517031
Mystic Square iirc, that's the only game I'm aware of that hasn't been no missed yet.

i beat the bird :)

>>33517116
It was LLS, MS has been LNNed once.

For those in the previous thread, I managed to figure out what the yellow numbers in the bottom right corner: they're the capture ratio for Story/Extra/Practice Mode, while the white ones are, of course, the capture ratio in Spell Practice.

Also, post your totals.

>>33517845
Thanks for telling that. It's nice to know since I never managed to figure out myself.

>>33517763
Godspeed

>>33517910
Nah I did reimu A instead of C
>>33517845
so what's the deal with the pie charts then? Just a repeat of the text numbers?

>>33518071
Yeah, they're just the percentages in a circular graph form.
The outer circle is for the white number, the inner circle for the yellow number.
The left one is for the selected character, the right one for all characters combined.

>>33518071
>Nah I did reimu A instead of C
Yukari's ability is extremely good in SA. I'm not sure if I'd be able to beat it with Suika or Aya.

Trying to bear SoEW at Hard fuck it's difficult.

When they said Kanako's last spell is cruel, I didn't expect it to be really cruel. I couldn't even do it with Marisa Bug and I just beat it with Reimu A anyway.

>>33520378
Yeah it's probably the single most 'endurance' spellcard I've seen.

It's fair, but it goes on a loooong time and it's easy to mess up eventually.

How would you rank the shot types in SA? Or rather, do any stand out as among the best/worst to you?

Next game on my 1cc quest and I remember it being pretty brutal. Dont think I ever made it past Orinn.

>>33516714
I'm still wondering about this just in case any anons have it.
My post from the last thread went unnoticed so i'm posting it again just in case

If I buy the games through steam, do I have to be logged in to play them?
I've always hated steam for that but I want to support ZUN

>>33523076
Most people seem to prefer Yukari because she has a straightforward (literally) shot type and very useful special ability, especially in stage 5. I personally prefer Patche, since the changeable shot gives you a lot of utility, but it takes a little getting used to.
Alice technically gets high damage if you can position correctly, but that's usually difficult, and her bomb is by far the worst in the game, so I find her the hardest to use. Everyone else is okay.
Orinrin Land is the hard part, good luck.

>>33520378
It is a really fun spellcard though.

>>33524698
It's one of my favorites, I've spent hours trying to time it out and it never gets old.

>>33523076
>Next game on my 1cc quest
I am on the same position as you right now.
And I have spent 2 months now in purgatory
The run in which I nomissed the first 4 stages, would be the run I could finally get past Orin.

Is it possible to goes fullscreen mode while still maintain 4:3 aspect ratio?

>>33525306
Yes, you need to set either your monitor or gpu to preserve the aspect ratio.

>>33525306
Best is to use vpatch in windowed mode and no window in the background.
Works even better on linux with window managers where you can hide the taskbar :)

Were the SA and UFO trojans a false positive?

>>33524570
Yes, it will launch steam if it isn't open already.

What was your last NB run?
I got my very first NB run today on UFO normal mode with SanaeB
https://files.catbox.moe/hq7igp.rpy

i thought everyone saying IN was an easy 1cc were overstating it, but i got this on my 2nd run after unlocking 6B
i feel a little bad for just bombspamming everything from stage 5 on but oh well

Holy fuck the spike in difficulty from easy to normal in SA is atrocious

>>33537468
Eh you don't want to hear about "Hard -> Lunatic" then

What's the worst character-shot type combination in Joutouguu's game?

>>33537499
Youmu-Eagle is bugged, it does about a third of the damage it's supposed to at full power. Only use that shot combo if you're a masochist.

>>33537639
Well, that seems pretty menacing for my prospects of being able to see all the endings...

>>33537690
Don’t easyshitters still get to see the endings? You could always just steamroll and easy play through.

>>33538551
Easyshitter here
Can confirm that you see the endings (and unlock the extra stages) in most of the games past 6

>>33536036
I got LNB on SA two days ago with Reimu/Suika. I rarely use that shot type in this game so it was a nice challenge for me.

Just 1cc'd pofv with Reimu.
You're welcome for this information, and I'll keep you posted.

>>33537468
SA is arguably the hardest normal 1cc out there

Is Reimu C in SA the worst shot type?

>>33539306
Very nice

>>33541546
If you flail around like an idiot and can't bomb proactively, sure.

>>33541546
Being able to put out your max damage at 3 power lets you bomb more liberally and her bomb is pretty good.

Some of my keys stopped responding today. It's getting old without a doubt.

>>33544454
Sounds like it's time to take it out back with a shotgun. Make your peace and end things quick.

>>33544578
>Sounds like it's time to take it out back with a shotgun
Don't mock me with my old posts kudasai.

>>33523944
Turns out that I'm a retard and my post from the last thread was noticed after all.
thx to the anon that replied even though the link you posted was already dead by the time that I saw the post

After like 2 hours of spamming Kanako's first non spell I finally cleared it like 5 times in a row, my reading is finally getting there

I can feel the power growing inside me

>>33540927
I found LoLK much harder to 1cc in normal than SA or even UFO

>>33544454
Are you me? Got exactly same problem so bought a new keyboard with anti-ghosting feature specially for touhou

What do you think is the best shot type in EoSD? I pulled off a Hard 1CC with MarisaB but I can't seem to do it with any of the other shot types for some reason

>>33552773
They're all good except MarisaA.

>>33553097
MarisaA is my most favorite in any game.

>>33552773
Depends on if you’re doing maingame or extra.

Marisa A has high firepower and an okay bomb, Marisa B has okay firepower and an amazing bomb. B is great until you get to Remilia or Flandre who are immune to bombs, at which point B no longer has any advantages over A. B is terrible in extra cause of that but very solid for the main game if you have proper bomb management and preplan what spells to skip.

Used to play B 99% of the time and ended up getting my first 1cc when I tried A just to shake things up. I think A’s consistent high firepower makes her better overall.

ReimuB is basically MarisaA but with different movement, I would tie these for best shottype. Just pick whoever’s movement you prefer.

Marisa B is SLIGHTLY behind those two but still solid thanks to master spark. The piercing lasers also help for some enemy groups but that’s less important.

Reimu A is mediocre, her homing shots deal so little damage they almost dont matter against bosses and her straight firepower and bomb are nothing special. The tradeoff for not having to watch where a boss moves is spellcards all lasting much longer, and later ones tend to get way harder the longer they’re on screen. Reimu A isnt terrible but I would solidly call her the worst shottype in eosd.

>>33554073
I am going to have to disagree with you on Marisa B, for a few reasons.

Firstly, her bomb does work on Remilia, it only doesn't work on Red Magic/Scarlet Gensokyo and her final non-spell – she doesn't turn into a bat at any other point in the fight.

Secondly, though her bomb does not work on Flandre, it works on her Four of a Kind clones, completely trivializing that spell card, AND, because it lasts for so long, it also pretty much trivializes Maze of Love – by timing a bomb right, you just have to dodge one or two of her shots. The length of the bomb also helps a lot against Patchouli, and a little bit against Flandre's survival spell card.

Apart from that, this is a very spot-on analysis.

>>33553097
How is MarisaA worse than ReimuA?

>>33554553
Four of a Kind is already easy though, Maze of Love is middling difficulty, and Philosopher's Stone can be skipped just as well with Stardust Reverie. I don't buy that the marginal utility you get from Master Spark outweighs the constant high damage output of missiles.

>>33554073
>Reimu A is mediocre, her homing shots deal so little damage they almost dont matter against bosses
Agreed. I have found myself in such situations. Shotgunning with ReimuA isn't as good as shotgunning with ReimuB
>bomb are nothing special
Sometimes I will choose ReimuA over ReimuB because ReimuB's bomb is fucking dogshit. ReimuA's bomb is decent

What are your opinions on NB runs that use unique game mechanics like UFOs and Manual Trance? Would you consider it less impressive than a NB run in a game that doesn't have a unique mechanic like EoSD?

>>33555419
The UFO LNB is still the hardest NB in the series even with UFOs. LNBV (no UFOs) is as hard as an LNN.
Personally I find TD LNB (trance allowed) to still be challenging enough because of that godawful early game and snowball effect but that’s just me

>>33554553
>Firstly, her bomb does work on Remilia, it only doesn't work on Red Magic/Scarlet Gensokyo and her final non-spell – she doesn't turn into a bat at any other point in the fight.
I forgot about that but you’re right. In that case I would put Marisa B on par with A and Reimu B for the main mode. I stand by Marisa B being bad in Extra though.

Four of a Kind is one I never had much trouble with, but yeah using a bomb against the clones would trivialize it. Still seems like a waste of a bomb to me though.

I admit I never once cleared maze of love, but I know for certain that one master spark isnt enough to cheese through the spell. You need to use at least two or three which you might not have left in stock by that point.

>The length of the bomb also helps a lot against Patchouli
I disagree. Silent Selene can be stardusted just as well as mastersparked if you wait for the right moment, which isnt too bad since selene starts out pretty easy. Her second spellcard you dont need to bomb as A, because the shot takes down her health so fast. But as B it will get far more difficult over time, and you’re far more likely to need to bomb. A is by far better there for not needing to bomb at all.

Philosopher’s Stone I just bomb as either type and the results are about the same.

Patchy has a large number of iframes between spellcards so in my experience master spark’s length doesnt help much, maybe if you used it at the very end of the last spellcard you’d do a bit of damage on her next and prevent the early bullets from coming out, but that seems like a waste to me.

Fair point about Flandre’s survival card, but I dont think that comes close to making up for B’s shortcomings in Extra.

...despite all my criticisms, Marisa B might still be my favorite shot type in the game. Maybe it’s just nostalgia cause I used to use it all the time, or maybe I just like lasers more than christmas tree missiles, but I have most fun in the main game with Marisa B. I’ll just never play as her in extra again because trying to clear that with her was a nightmare.

>>33555529
What if I did it on Normal modo?
t. >>33536036

>>33555694
Still the hardest NB imo, the power loss is nasty

>>33560703
Actually LoLK is probably worse desu, you don’t get nearly as many lives on normal mode which is a problem

beep beep

>>33560703
Really? UFO is so far the only game I have pulled off a NB run on.

>>33571250
As I said >>33560734 LoLK is probably the only one that's solidly harder on NNB. SA Normal is also a bit difficult patterns wise so you could maybe argue it being tied with UFO but you still get a lot of lives in SA while also not having to work as hard for them plus power loss isn't a big deal at all there.
I never really fucked around with NNB or HNB though, I don't know why you just wouldn't move the difficulty up instead but you do you I guess.

>>33571927
I strongly agree with you that LoLK is probably the hardest on Normal mode. The last time I played it, I got a game over on stage 4, even with Reisen's bombs.
>power loss
Surprisingly not as big of a deal as people have made it out to be. idk if you watched the replay I posted in the other post but I managed to get through Byakuren's last three spell cards at only 1.XX power.
>I don't know why you just wouldn't move the difficulty up instead
Because sometimes I like to test my skills and see if I am capable of doing certain tasks without certain tools to aid me. Also, my first 1CC on UFO with SanaeB had only two bombs the entire run and I thought I might try doing a NB seeing how well I was able to do the rest of the game without bombs. I tried Hard mode and I haven't been able to get past stage 4, but I will come back to it someday

>>33572073
>I strongly agree with you that LoLK is probably the hardest on Normal mode.
I'm talking about NNB specifically. LoLK with reisen bombs is very, very easy - one of the easiest 1ccs in the series even. People just get scared off and somehow forget that they have literal hundreds of resources to skip everything in the game and then some.
>Surprisingly not as big of a deal as people have made it out to be. idk if you watched the replay I posted in the other post but I managed to get through Byakuren's last three spell cards at only 1.XX power.
That...is a big deal? I don't know about normal mode but byakuren's last three cards are absolutely no joke whatsoever. LFS and Devil's Recital become way harder with the final waves dragged out. I'm not sure why you're so insistent on devaluing your own achievements.
>Because sometimes I like to test my skills and see if I am capable of doing certain tasks without certain tools to aid me. Also, my first 1CC on UFO with SanaeB had only two bombs the entire run and I thought I might try doing a NB seeing how well I was able to do the rest of the game without bombs. I tried Hard mode and I haven't been able to get past stage 4, but I will come back to it someday
That you also only used 2 bombs on your first UFO 1cc is also kind of ridiculous from my point of view, but whatever, play however you want. Hard mode is indeed a significant jump (especially for UFO) but I think you're more than capable of it (assuming you actually use your bombs). If you want to at least.

If you use ReimuEagle in th17 do you do more damage unfocused than focused?

Can't seem to fix the input lag in PCB, no matter what I do, vsync etc, nothing fucking fixes it, it feels so shit to play.

The Kouryuudou announcement was the kick in the ass I needed to finally finish up Kikeijuu.
Despite being rusty from 18 months of no practice, I was able to clear first try with glitched YoumuE and it didn't even feel that bad, while YoumuW actually gave me a bit of trouble.
Guess I'll try the Extra between now and Reitaisai.

Reimu is an asshole, and more useless things about her that you knew already.

Having a lot of fun with Imperishable Night as it’s my first Touhou game. Any tips for the Remilia/Sakuya team? I beat the game with Reimu/Yukari already but I’m having a much tougher time with R/S for some reason.

>>33575860
You probably just have to get used to taking off the homing shot training wheels. In that sense Scarlet team is a good next choice, since you can plop Remi's familiar down wherever you need to while remaining free to dodge around. If Reimu's fight is giving you trouble, just practice it a bit; everything except Fantasy Seal is extremely straightforward.

Continuing my 1cc quest of the series.

From the perspective of a Normal shitter, SA seems like a massive step up in difficulty.

I want to kick ass and blitz through these games but 1ccs take a long time

is touhou even worth it compared to other bullet hells nowadays?
I used to score in PCB but I stopped playing many years ago when I realized I was never gonna break the top 10
last release I played was MoF
the new releases look kinda shitty to me, are the looks just deceiving?

>>33586429
Everything is exactly as it looks and your subjective biases and inferiority complexes are a perfect representation of reality

Maybe it is a stupid question but where do I get the nazrin font(as in actual font to install)?

>>33586429
Obviously the posters here like touhou so I dont know what answers you’re expecting.

DDC and maybe HSiFS are a little controversial but the rest of the new games are generally well liked.

>>33579181
i say the longer it takes the better. that way getting that 1cc run is much more rewarding and you have more time to appreciate the game

don't give up anon

>>33579181
Don't rush.
Touhou forced me to slow the fuck down after a while since you can't just speedrun it without taking huge and stupid risks that will more often than not get you killed.
You'll get quicker as you get better.

>>33586429
>are the looks just deceiving?
Most of the modern era 2hus are very good.
th11, t12 and th15 are masterpieces, most of the others are fine, th13 and th14 have good extras.

>>33587483
>your subjective biases and inferiority complexes are a perfect representation of reality
We're here to have lighthearted vidya discussion, take your fartsniffing pseudointellectualism to reddit you killjoy faggot.

>>33593215
Lol

>>33576263
>SA seems like a massive step up in difficulty.
You're not ready for LoLK I tell you

Anyway I've been avoiding UFO in lunatic for a while to "get ready" because everyone says it's by far the hardest one in lunatic, but after trying it today, I find it much much easier than LoLK

>>33597163
Yeah UFO lunatic is way easier than LoLK with reisen

>>33576263
The peak difficulty in SA isn't that much worse than in the previous games, it's just that the difficulty ramps up faster during stage 2-3.
You can usually bomb even the early game bosses a few times without consequences, since the early parts of a stage lets you recover power before the mid-boss. You can also bomb Orin to hell and back and still have full power for Okuu.

I know keyboard is best, but which gamepad would make a second best for danmaku? Just looking for something almost as good for when I want to lay in bed and take it easy.

>>33602875
I use the standard xbox controller. With RB for focus and 2 buttons near one another for shoot and bomb quickly.
Used to play with d-pad but after a while it really hurts your fingers even though it's precise but I changed to stick and learned how to do the sensitivity and deadzone properly and as long as I don't let got of the stick it feels very fine to play.

>>33603102
I'm sorry, LB* for focus.

How does Suwako compare to the other extras? I've been taking a shot at her lately and it's been very enjoyable, is she considered one of the easy ones?

>>33607480
I don't know. I didn't do her extra.

>>33607480
Yes. Possibly the easiest, even. A cool fight nonetheless.

how the fuck am i supposed to 1cc pofv when aya exists

>>33602875
You shouldn't do anything other than sleep in your bed, especially not play video games. Unmaking the connection in your brain of lying in bed = sleep is going to make it harder to fall asleep.

>>33608295
Aya is easy. Her EX is aimed, so stay low and keep slowly streaming from side to side and they'll never hit you. Her Fairy and Witch are also aimed, just make sure to dodge towards the middle so they don't force you up the side of the screen. IIRC the attacks from her Dragon are just rings of fast but loose bullets, not usually a problem unless you get bad luck with the timing. The biggest concern is very fast small white bullets getting reflected back and forth, and if that's what's giving you trouble, you can try playing less aggressively and letting them fall of the screen, or just practice reading them.

>>33608295
Just score to get more extends to squander.
Pic related.

>>33608784
>>33609115
i just dont know what my deal is. i get to stage 6 then just lose over and over no matter who it is or who im playing. aya just happens to be the one that pisses me off the most

>>33609869
In that case, yeah, that's just where the difficulty starts to pick up. It's still mild compared to stages 8 and 9 though.
Sounds like you need more practice, and maybe a different approach entirely. Have you read up on how all the mechanics work? For instance, you know the enemy AI is basically on a timer, right? You can't try to corner it by using meter proactively, you can only survive until it decides to die, so using meter defensively is the way to go. That's probably the single most important thing to know, but there's a lot going on in that game, and understanding it will make things much easier.

>>33602875
Logitech Gamepad F310-Blue

>>33576263
does anyone have a link to or know the name of the font in this chart? the link on the chart doesn't seem to work anymore.

>>33610293
Not that anon, but does spending meter really not lower the AI’s timer or anything? I know their hitbox basically doesnt exist but I would’ve assumed attacks did SOMETHING.

Honestly, from what little experience I’ve had and from what I’veheard, everything about PoFV’s singeplayer just sounds like such horseshit. Like, maybe it’s fun once you know what the real rules are, but why not tell me the real rules from the fucking start then?

no focus
no power
no point
no shoot
lunatic ufo

I fucking hate MoF extra. Where the FUCK do I GO with these FUCKING read-the-wiki-lmao-puzzlecards

>>33615565
Attacks do something, casting several at once will get em, but only after AI`s run out of their timers. Before then, as said, use meter defensively.
>but why not tell me the real rules from the fucking start then?
Well, thats because real rules are, in your own words:
>such horseshit
-and so ZUN had to make up pretense of actual duel-like-gameplay before extra, which puts AI hidden timer on display.

>>33620416
Fuck this game.

And fuck me for even thinking of going back to it after learning all this.

About how long do I need to wait for most invincibility timers to expire? It’s somewhat random from what I understand, is that correct?

Is it normal for thcrap to keep running even after you close the game?

>>33621449
>Is it normal for thcrap to keep running even after you close the game?
I haven't had that happen to me before.
ss?

>>33621449
Sometimes thcrap updates files for the other Touhou games while I'm playing but I'm not sure

>>33626700
It was running as a background process in my task manager. My computer was running kinda slowly so I checked in there and I saw two different tchrap's running at 0.3% CPU. I don't think they were the problem though because I was watching a movie at the time.

>>33621449
Only happens to me when thcrap errors out while starting a game. I've never seen it keep running after closing a game though.

>>33621449
Okay so I ran UFO (the game where the thcrap exe was running from) today and checked task manager again and it wasn't running after I closed the game. I think I had a similar issue to >>33630401 because I did get an error before starting it yesterday (missing dll) so I think that's why it was running in the background like that.

>>33620558
The length of the timer depends on which stage you are on, and how many times you've died on that stage. So, you want to save lives and play for score (to gain lives) so that you've got lives to spare on the later stages, where you'll almost surely need them.
And I can definitely see why you are unhappy. I thought PoFV was so cool when I first played it, and I would do useless stuff like stacking attacks, using attacks solely for the purpose of increasing my attack level, using level 3s.
All these are useless in the single player. Offensively, all you need to do is kill a fairy regularly, to keep the timer ticking down. However, if you're like me, you'll still be able to find joy in focus solely on dodging, building spell points, and reflecting and killing bosses.
If you go further down the PoFV rabbit hole, you'll also realize that the simple timer has some merit compared to an AI, since it makes scoring more predictable. I wouldn't mind if the timer returned for the next Phantasmagoria, but it'd be nice if it ticked down faster as a reward for putting pressure on the computer controlled character.

>>33631955
Please tell me that pic's not an edit.

>>33631955
The thing is I’d be okay with this if the game didnt try to hide it, and if invincibility timers were just displayed like Yuuka’s apparently is.

I mean I just have to guess when it’s time to start attacking right? That or preemptively look up a time table for how long the timer lasts on each level.

>useless stuff like stacking attacks, using attacks solely for the purpose of increasing my attack level, using level 3s.
Should I just be using levels 1 and 2 then? I can see why that would be a more defensive, prolonged playstyle.

>>33632095
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSJlQ3WRO7w

>>33632219
Level 2 for clearing the screen of bullets. Use it liberally, because the game will throw almost undodgeable stuff at you. Level 3 and 4 are extremely situational, and as a beginner, you'll probably not find yourself in a situation where it makes sense to use them.

For the Level 1, it really depends on the character you are playing. Some characters have useful level 1s for clearing the screen of fairies and/or bosses, while some characters have pretty useless level 1s. For example, with Marisa, your level 1 should be your primary attack, while Reimu's level 1 is weaker than her normal shot. Youmu's Level1 clears bullets in a small area in front of her, so it's used heavily. Most characters have situational level 1s.
Still it doesn't hurt to throw out a level 1: in particular, you may want to charge up to level 1 just to have quicker access to a level 2 if needed (just be sure to not accidentally charge to level 2 when you don't need it, since this wastes meter).

>>33632219
You shouldn't have to ever 'start attacking'. At some point not too long after the timer runs out, the AI will simply kill itself on something even without any particular pressure.

>>33632375
>>33632378
Cool, appreciate the tips. I look forward to giving the game another chance now that I understand how it works.

>>33632095
It isn't

FUCK blue ufos.

>>33632276
>ZUN using analog stick
what the fuck

>>33632276
This video made my day!

>>33635748
Fuck you

>>33637055
Stop getting in my way when I'm trying to get my third red one
I'm not good at this game I need that extra life

>>33635880
Yep.

>>33619570
Just watch replays anon, it's actually a very easy EX stage.

Going through PoFV, played the Medicine matchup for the first time.
Its cool & pretty unique, the game keeps on giving. Punishes my habit of getting away with holding Focus all game if Poison stacks
I'm not good but i'm having fun.

Well, I don't feel good about it but I beat LoLK PD with Reimu.

>>33652609
I just did it with Marisa!

Is pofv fun to play on your own?

>>33653497
I played it twice then never touched it again, who knows maybe you'll love it. I'm sure there's at least one person out there who plays it for fun.

>>33653497
If you like rng and not having to memorize anything - yes

>>33653497
It's subjectively the comfiest Touhou game.

>>33653497
its okay.
also >>33655739

>>33653497
It's certainly much more fun to play with other humans.

Question about LSS and the other PC98 games, if I were to beat the game without misses or bombs, would that increase the Your Skill number at the bottom? Pic related is so far my first 1CC on LSS story and I feel kinda bad about getting 32 and I want to try a NB run to see if I can top it.

>>33664247
Try focusing less, collecting more, etc until you see a difference.
I tend not to pay attention to that so I can't really give you advice on that.

>>33664266
>I tend not to pay attention to that so I can't really give you advice on that.
Well fuck me I guess I should stop obsessing over some stupid two sentence quote, but I probably won't

>>33664247
Yes

>>33638071
go for green ufos my man, bombs are your friend

>>33653497
I find it very fun personally, I usually do VS using Marisa against Reimu/Sakuya/Yuuka/Komachi

>>33665838
But if I die then I'm not gonna be able to use them

>>33665324
No

Is IN on hard really easy compared to something like EoSD and UFO on normal, or have I just played IN too much

>>33670978
IN is super easy compared to the other games, especially if you're starting with 7 lives.

>>33670978
IN gets a lot easier with practice

>>33671019
PCB hard also isnt too bad
I feel like a noob in the newer games like SA
I think I get in trouble when you have to fly around to constantly collect the bomb and player pieces
I dont know why im bad at EoSD though

>>33671079
EoSD has the problem of no visible hitbox. Also Patche's spells personally piss me off because she changes with each character.
At least in IN you can practice spells.

>>33670978
Maybe? I 1CC'd EoSD on Hard twice already but I haven't 1CC'd IN on Normal yet but I have also played EoSD more than IN

>>33670978
No, IN hard feels easy. Or it did last time I played it.

>>33644032
I had to resort to just one clip and that was for Spring Sign "Jade of the Horrid River" because the fucking thing traps you and drains all of your resources unless you know how to move just right. I got through the rest of it with simple honest work. Nothing too bad after all. But..

I moved on to SA and now THIS is some fuck. I knew I put these dumb extras off by years for a reason. I mean I don't even get one extra life until Koishi? If I bomb once during the stage I'm not getting max power? I have ONE chance to fuck up her patterns that I've never seen before then it's a reset? The very first spellcard was a fucking trick one, too. Oh you moved in the wrong way now get fucked by these screen-clearing lasers. Fuck. I can't believe this ballsack-nailing difficulty. I'm so upset after finally getting to her just to see her for 10 seconds.

>>33681469
Koishi and her stage are pure bullshit, I agree. If you're trying to do them all in order or something, I'd strongly recommend against it, just skip to Mamizou for now and go back for the hard ones later.

*keys fuck with you again*
On a Friday night? You're kidding.

>>33554617
Harder patchouli
Range being important because bosses move everywhere

>>33681662
Well, much as it pains me to break chronological order, I kneel to Koishi and moved on to 12 and Nue. And wow, it's like ZUN felt bad for the previous one. The stage and boss are amazingly easy. None of the nonspells even try to hit you. The cards are simple. I'll be back for SA once I have nothing else left. I can't imagine anything being harder.

>>33670978
It felt about on par with PCB hard for me. Definitely harder than any of the previous games on Normal, but a lot of knowledge and intuition from lower difficulties carries over.

>>33686017
I just cleared Koishi a few weeks ago and did some earnest Nue attempts today. At first it felt like crap because the stage throws a ton of maliciously placed static UFOs, so I couldn't gather a lot of resources. Then I got to Nue and cleared all the way to the spell where she turns into a dark cloud and chases you. I managed to survive for a long time, but I did too poor damage and eventually messed up. At first, I thought it might be a survival card and it's hard to hit her anyway. Seems like a fun fight!

>>33686017
>The stage [is] amazingly easy.
Your opinions are insane, but godspeed!

>>33653497
>>33653895
That person is me. It's my favorite.

How can you be sure that a replay is real?

>>33692483
What do you mean

>>33697930
I don’t know actually
I just got a run which I had worked on for a very long time, named the score file and saved the replay but somehow my brain is doubting that it actually happened.

>>33698115
If people knew you were using TAS, then they'd call you out for it.
I've done impossible runs and grazes before and it doesn't bother me because I know I run standard unaltered versions of the game.

>>33702191
So as long as I'm not using TAS and I haven't altered the game it's real?

How would you guys rank the games by difficulty? For me IN is the easiest and LOLK is the hardest.

I'm surprised how toned back TD was. It must be the easiest in the series by far. At least Mamizou wasn't a pushover, but a normal playthrough is amazingly lax. Also this might have had something to do with it, but what is up with Youmu? Most of the time I did not have to avoid danmaku at all because enemies would die within a second. I had finished this with Reimu years ago and took the extra with her because playing Youmu almost doesn't seem right.

>>33704905
I'd call MoF the easiest as long as you approach it on its own terms and don't try to play it like it's the previous games where bombs are limited.

After that, I dunno how I'd rank them.

>>33704905
Depends entirely on what you’re trying to do

Does HSiFS have the easiest extra?
I messed up several times during the final two spells but still comfortably cleared it.

>>33712408
Yes

>>33710905
Anyways, hardest and easiest respectively
Easy mode: PCB, LLS
Normal mode: SA, MoF
Hard mode: UFO, MoF
Lunatic: UFO, MoF
LNB: UFO, HSiFS
LNN: LoLK, TD
I don’t know much about scoring but just by watching UFO still looks absolutely ridiculous since you basically only summon blue UFOs and you waste the few resources you have on milking ichirin

>>33712408
Exploiting the bug in the survival card (which you didn't do, right?) helps, but it's not too bad either way. I'd say Suwako is easier though.

>>33713502
No way is 10 easier than 6 for a Hard 1cc.

Just got my first 1cc! Which game should I go for next?

>>33714838
6 and 8 are both great and will feel comfortable if you have beaten 7 but if you want something with somewhat different gameplay you might try 10.

>>33520378
it is the single reason I haven't beaten MoF yet

>>33714838
6 then 8 to complete the original trilogy

Then try (and probably end up skipping) 9.

>>33520378
>>33522527
>>33715735
That spell card is her easiest spell card on normal mode. What are you talking about?

>>33716618
May be an easy spell card, but the fact one can't just skip it by bombing and Kanako having a lot of HP makes it more annoying to deal with. I just start panicking. It's not hard for me because it's hard to read, it's because it actually scares me. And the fact you lose power when I need to deathbomb makes it even lasts longer. It's just not as funny when having 0 lives. I still not believing I actually defeat her. It feels rare because I 1cc'd Youyoumu with 4 lives left shortly before, and it's not like I grinded for it, I just got both 1cc randomly. I really don't know why Fuujinroku feels harder for me.

>>33717444
Here are two of my replays on MoF Normal, one with ReimuA, and one with ReimuB.
https://files.catbox.moe/ggniz9.rpy
https://files.catbox.moe/0ebq87.rpy
I haven't 1CC'd the game with any shot types yet other than MarisaB but I'm sure I can capture it again when I 1CC it with the other shot types

>>33713502
LLS is easier than MoF by a mile even on normal and hard. The game throws so many resources your way that it's practically impossible to lose. MS is also easier than MoF on Normal.

>>33712408
Haven't played it, but I have a hard time imagining an extra easier than Ran.

>>33717543
Man, your score is way lower than me, and yet you finish it with 2 lives. I compare it with mine, and it's even amusing how bad I am. I think it's just my performing what sucks the most, because pretty much I figured out how to avoid every spell card at this point. But again, it's not like I'm grinding it.

How do I grt into 2hu? Is there a place I should download the games from or should I just look around?

>>33718966
What's your score?

>>33718966
>>33719084
Also, did you watch the ReimuB replay? I finished that one with five lives and a score 300000000+, which is significantly higher than the one with ReimuA

>>33719084
>>33520378

>>33719134
My apologies, wasn't sure if you were the same anon who posted that screencap. Anyways, I still beat your high score. Watch the ReimuB replay now

>>33719155
I see why it looked off.Your is higher with Reimu B because the extra lives. You ended with 151~ points, but with 5 lives, it gives you 125 millions. And plus, the power and faith also add points, what ended up with the final 300~ points. My 260~ are just raw points with basically not bonus at all, since I ended with nothing. Didn't notice it before because the final screen doesn't show up when ending the replay.

>>33718970
The moriyashrine site has individual downloads and there’s also a translated batch of the whole series on nyaa.

6 was the game that rebooted the series and that continuity has been kept so most people start there. Up to you if you want to start on that one or do 1-5 first.

The games are short but quite challenging so dont expect to just tear through the series.

Have fun.

>>33719430
Thanks. I've played some other bullet hells so I think I kind of know what I'm getting into but I'll prepare myself for a challenge.

>>33719427
>My 260~ are just raw points with basically not bonus at all, since I ended with nothing
How many spell card bonuses did you get? Did you just graze off a shit ton of bullet and use a lot of auto collect or something?

>>33719498
Being honest, while I just suck at 1cc's, I grind score like crazy at early stages. I don't know, my autism I guess.
I just tried to keep the faith as up as I can. I'm not into actual scoring. I 1cc'd it because randomly, like I said.

>>33702856
Please respond

>Bonus 6060
reroll.
reroll.
fucking reroll.

>>33719859
So long as you aren't using cheats, your run is legitimate.

>>33702856
>>33719859
Some people will be finicky about if it counts if you’ve changed the default lives/bombs. The game itself says this counts as a 1cc still, though. I dunno if there’s any sort of community consensus as to wether it counts or not.

Dont worry so much about it man.

>>33722121
>>33722218
I think im just going to quit touhou. I’ve gone from simply devaluing my achievements to being unable to accept they actually happened. I dread to imagine what comes next.

>>33722636
you do you.
if you cheated, you cheated.

>>33722640
I don’t have any cheats, except the touhou practice ones but they were all disabled and even if they were active you would be able to see them in the replay

>>33722636
Nigga just lighten the fuck up

SA and UFO are really fun on easy mode but they make me cry on any other difficulty.
Again FUCK those blue ufos.

So, DDC extra. Midboss. What the fuck man? Look at all this SHIT flying at you at sanic speeds with intersecting bullets from multiple directions AND they move up and down creating what looks like impossibly unreactable random gaps. I like how extras seem to vary from tough to fair and absolutely awful. I can barely make it to drum in one piece and am about ready to kneel.

>>33722748
UFO is the game I enjoy most on Normal mode

>>33719568
Also, does it really matter whether those points are "raw" or not? Point are points, is does not matter how they are obtained as long as they are not being obtain via bugs. I beat your high score because I did something that you didn't do, which would be defeating the final boss with a shit ton of lives left in stock.

>>33719568
>>33726424
You should try to put some scoring strats into your MoF runs. It's a pretty fun and easy game to get into scoring with.
Also, don't you lose quite a bit of faith by dying? If they still beat you in raw score, I guess most of their deaths are to Kanako?

>>33722748
>Again FUCK those blue ufos.
You need to activate your scoring-consciousness.

I've been trying to finish 10 on Hard recently, and man, there's a lot in that game that just feels unfair. Ridiculous micrododging that leads to stupid misses as early as Nitori, portions in stages 4, 5, and 6 that essentially require bombing, Sanae cards that can completely corner you. A lot feels too fast for how tight it is, or vice versa. Somehow I managed to get a few 1ccs years ago, but now I have no idea how the hell I managed to take enough lives to Kanako.

>>33722748
I started to enjoy UFO after grinding for No Bombs No UFO run.

>>33727235
I only care about score in games where you get awarded extra lives for getting to a certain point.

>>33726424
I was saying all that because your score and replays really motivated me desu. Not trying to be competitive.

Bullying Mamizou!

What's scorefags's preferred Touhou game?

>>33736305
I find MoF, PCB, and HSiFS to be more popular among scorefags

>>33736540
PCB and IN are peak score play. UFO can get a mention just because of its execution requirements.

>>33735425
>that because your score and replays really motivated me desu
Really? Just because I captured Kanako's last spell twice? I couldn't capture the rest of her spell cards except for her second one, but that only happened with ReimuA.
>Not trying to be competitive
My apologies
>246518180
>with lives left in stock
That's a shame, on your other one you got 260000000+ even without lives left in stock, what happened?

>>33737246
>what happened?
Nothing. The final score is 344~ millions. The bonus is added at the very end, when the game already started the fade out.
>Just because I captured Kanako's last spell twice?
Not really. It's mostly because the stage 6 and 5 in general. I still can't capture Mountain of Faith, but I did capture her first and second spell cards though.

>>33737608
>The final score is 344~ millions
Well shit, it looks like I need to try and top that
>I still can't capture Mountain of Faith
bummer
>I did capture her first and second spell cards though
Good job. I haven't been able to capture her first spell yet.

I know MOF is supposed to be really easy but I think 1cc'ing it with Marisa B using her glitch gave me a warped perception of it being weenie hut jr's tier because I can't get past Kanako with any other shot type.

Hi I'm new to 2hu, what are some games where i can play as my wife yuuka?

>>33740590
You can only play as her in Mystic Square and Phantasmagoria of Flower View.
She's in Lotus Land Story as a boss.

>>33740590
She's my wife

Yeah! It's been some months since my last 1cc, so this feels quite refreshing! Quite a fun extra. I should've tried it out earlier.

>>33747593
Please don't tell me you actually play the fucking game like that, Jesus Christ anon.

>>33747654
Why?

>>33516714
where do i start if i suck at shoot em ups

>>33749699
Easy mode because none of them are easy.
They're different than western arcade games.

>>33751103
Oh yeah,
>>33751103
Remember to bomb

>>33751103
Nah, Touhou is easy in the grand scheme of things. Easy mode might be useful just to get a feel for the controls, but there's no reason not to start on Normal pretty much right away.

>>33749699
eosd pcb or in

>>33751156
>Touhou is easy
Compared to most bullet hell, shmups and arcade games yeah, absolutely. Most people are used to modern day console games though, something as basic as planning a route can sound formidable to them. It can take a person a very long time to get their first Normal 1cc.

>>33749699
EoSD if you want to work on your fundamentals. MoF if you want the ‘easiest’ game.

Know when to recognize leading shots and how to deal with them.

Use your fucking bombs, dont wait til the last moment, decide on X amount of time where if you dont ALREADY see how to escape a tight situation, bomb before you really need to.

It’s okay to watch videos of other people dealing with things that give you trouble, many of these moments will have a specific ‘trick’ to them.

Use your fucking bombs. If a spellcard always kills you, say fuck it and bomb past so you can keep a life. It’s okay to *PRE-PLAN* to bomb past specific spellcards before you start a game. You’ll gradually narrow that list down until you can 1cc.

Have fun.

>>33737608
I just 1CC'd the game with ReimuC. I ended stage 6 with a raw score of about 190 million and with three lives in stock which increased it to about 280 million. God damn, what are you doing to end stage 5 with 190 million + points? I can only end that stage with about 150 million. I've tried auto collecting and while it's pretty well on the earlier stage it isn't too terribly helpful on the later stage where there's too many bullets on the screen to get to the get border. It's too risky.

>>33752085
Well, a lot of my score came from faith. Auto-collecting is not really the best way to keep faith up, because it cleans all the screen quick and it leaves you with not items. The way I did is collecting items in the regular way instead of auto-collect them. That is a better way to keep the faith since collecting the items restarts the meter again and again, so it doesn't start draining up faith. I only care about it until the boss shows up, at that point the faith is locked. The points came from capturing the spell card with the faith up. I think so, since this was the way I got the score high on my playthrough. I did it in the first three stages only though..

>>33752371
How many spell card bonuses did you get on stage 4 and 5? On my most recent run, I got zero bonuses on stage 4 and one on stage 5

>>33752637
All of Aya but her survival, and 2 of Sanae.

So many people trying to get into Touhou recently. It's like this board is flooded with by something.

>>33753093
I'm for it.
It certainly make up for the number of people being rangebanned 2 years ago for minute (minuscule) meaningless shit like arguing a simple point.

>>33753093
You should only worry once it starts drawing in bad crowds.
It can be any multitude of reasons lately.

>>33752902
How high was the Faith meter when you reached the first boss?

>>33753093
For me it was honest to god Sr Pelo making a touhou cartoon

>>33753167
111~ thousands. I can give the replay if you will keep questioning like that.

>>33753219
Okay then, post the replay

>>33753230
https://files.catbox.moe/2mp1n4.rpy
There's it, my kusoplay. Errors aside, I think you can get the idea of keep faith up with this one.

>>33753276
Alright, thank you anon

>>33753093
People are constantly getting into touhou, but none of them ever stay

>>33753733
I got in to Touhou a year and a half ago and it has gotten to the point where I have Hard 1CCs, an Extra 1CC, and even NB and a NM run.

>>33754428
Good on you, most people don't

Finally did 1cc with Reimu B. She seems so slow compared to Marisa, it hurts.

>>33740590
Same question and scenario but Meiling

Any tips for a complete beginner trying to finish PCB on easy?
I usually go with Reimu A due to her homing shots

>>33755597
Good job, dude.

>>33760272
- Use practice mode to practice the later stages (or any stage you struggle with, but the earlier stages you'll probably get enough practice on naturally by playing)
- Collect point items for extends (important for the next point)
- If you can reach the stage 4 boss with enough lives, you can pretty much bomb your way through the remainder of the game
- Don't be afraid to bomb earlier boss attacks or stage sections if needed. If you can't do an attack reliably, it may be better to bomb it
- Be proactive with your bombs. Ideally, you should only bomb when you are about to get hit, but this ideal is not realistic. It's much more reliable to just always bomb difficult attacks. If you want to try to learn to dodge these attacks, do it in practice mode where the stakes are lower, and not 20 minutes into a run that's on good pace!
- During the final boss, bullets cancelled at the end of an attack give a fairly large amount of cherry points, so you'll get frequent borders, which are basically free bombs. Thus, you probably won't need as many actual bombs as you might think.

These are all just general pointers on resources management, since we don't really know what you're struggling with specifically. My impression from messing around a bit with Easy mode scoring is that it's pretty similar to Normal mode in difficulty - which is not "easy" for new players, so don't expect immediate success without some practice.
Just take your time and be patient, and you'll get there eventually. Good luck!

>>33764281
Thanks for the helpful advice. I've noticed bombs are broken and are such a fucking lifeline. I usually get stuck at the stage with Lily White because I keep dying when they flood the screen with those maypole lookong shot patterns so I have to bomb my way through kek.

How is your IN phantasm clear going?

>>33765601
The bullets that get shot when you kill the spinner enemies? The red and blue versions are aimed at you, but they can easily cover the entire screen if you move around randomly. It's been a while since I played, but I believe they are slow enough that you can direct them all towards one part of the screen before moving away, which leaves you with plenty of room to dodge the next wave.
It gets tricky when they are all combined, though. Bombing or holding your fire are viable approaches. I haven't played PCB in a while, so I might be mistaken, but there is definitely a trick to it that makes most of stage 4 easy.

>>33765601
If you dont destroy the spinners they shoot way less bullets. Hang out til they shoot green then very slowly dodge to one side, then when there’s an opening just stream the next few waves in the opposite direction.

>>33764281
>If you can reach the stage 4 boss with enough lives, you can pretty much bomb your way through the remainder of the game
This is mostly true, but characters with shitty bombs will struggle with this. If you have a shitty bomb then you’ll need to use them just when you see a mistake coming which is much more difficult. If you’re using a shot with a mediocre bomb, I’d recommend switching.

Well, this was a somewhat unpleasant experience. But thankfully this games gives you extends out the ass.

>>33766286
>If you dont destroy the spinners they shoot way less bullets
Damn, have to try this one out

>>33766962
Okay so I tried it and it worked pretty okay, now I can at least make it to the Prismriver quartet before I die. Baby steps.

Am I the only one that genuinely feels a little stressed when listening to clownpiece's theme? Even though I actually like it, I still can't forget how it felt playing as someone new to touhou on pointdevice mode

>>33769925
I feel my stomach drop when I hear Shou's theme.

>>33769925
I tend to do runs without audio so maybe.

>>33768020
That’s the spirit anon.

FYI, which prismriver you fight at the start depends on your character. Once all 3 appear, the one you damage most is the one you’ll fight solo after the spellcard. The black one is generally considered the easiest of the three on Easy/Normal, so you might have an easier time if you aim for her when all three are on screen.

Also, hitting all three with a bomb will deal triple damage.

I keep losing during the final boss's final spell card.
In all of the game

I want to make a collection of webms of spell cards for reference. Any advice on how to optimize spell card webms since there is a lot of things going on?

>>33766215
Pretty good, how was your last fight against Ayaka?

>>33780816
Ayaka?!?

>>33775266
Thanks for the tip. I actually managed to beat them, but jobbed to Youmu. At least I can do practice runs on stage 4 now and hopefully learn how to navigate it without wasting like 3 lives every time.

>>33785023
You definitely can; it's all memo, and with the right route you should barely have to dodge anything aside from Lily and the last big fairy.

>>33779381
Presumably you want to use VP8 so they can be posted on 4chan? Unfortunately it's a terrible codec, so it'll be an uphill battle. Record at the smallest possible game resolution, crop to just the play area, maybe cut the framerate in half.

I'm so pleased with myself. Fuck those literal who midboss girls though.

>>33785280
Stop.

>>33785206
>it's all memo
Yeah I'm noticing that more for every replay. I've reached Youmu's boss fight a few times and I can usually clear the patterns she's used on me before but die when she releases a new one. It's really fun though since it's very noticeable that I get better every day.

You want cute and funny gameplay?

https://www.twitch.tv/beatanichisato

>>33786182
She is cute, but please don't advertise here.
Also, come on, dying on stage 1 on Easy Modo?

>>33786182
Kill yourself out of /jp/, secondary trash.

>>33786532
That's stage 4 as far as I recall. Still a terrible casual.
There is nothing cute or funny about watching trash play like trash.
>>33786182
>>>/vt/

>>33785280
Nice! It's not even with Marisa B.
Do you play with that aspect ratio?

Anons can you confirm me one thing? Does EoSD have rank or am I crazy? If yes, do other Windows era games have rank other than EoSD?
>>33774372
How. Audio is very important, at least to me.
The only games I can play without audio are PoDD and PoFV and I get slightly worse performance.

>>33785280
>Fuck those literal who midboss girls
Aw if you keep practicing you will find her fun to play after a while. (that aspect ratio)

I remember the days when I used to play with that aspect ratio when I first started in full screen mode. Glad I learned from my mistakes.

>>33787539
EoSD has rank. Increases with time and resources, decreases with misses, bombs, and probably some other things I've forgotten. I don't think any of the other games have had it since.

>>33787492
>>33787575
I messed up trying to take a screenshot and ended up using a shadowplay recording which turned out to be a wide mess.

>>33787539
I can't play if I'm in a bad mood or just out of it. No audio is fine since I can always watch the replay.

Will I ever stop sucking at this? I've recently 1cc'ed eosd after having taken a break, but even though my general skills have improved, I still keep on dying for stupid reasons.

>>33788597
patience
patience

>>33788597
It's all about practice.
Play different games if you feel like you are no making progress, it will make you more flexible.

>>33788597
Everyone dies for stupid reasons. Don't be hard on yourself and try to enjoy your stupid deaths. You've probably improved a ton from when you started out, but every little mistake can lead to a stupid death.
It can be hard to stay focused during early stages, especially on a bad day.
If you're having a bad day but don't want to stop playing, I'd suggest you grind a spell or a stage sections in practice mode. This way, you're not punished for your mistakes, and you'll almost surely make some kind of progress.
Or you can just do something else and try again tomorrow.

>>33787539
At least EoSD and PCB have rank. It's pretty obvious in EoSD, but it's really subtle in PCB outside of a few parts.

Got my first ExNB
Died to counter clock and ripples

this is harder than Kinkaku-ji

>>33790181
It only took me 62 shots, versus 1083, so I disagree.

https://twitter.com/korindo/status/1372772894053257220
Unconnected Marketeers Trial CDs releasing the 21st in Japan

>>33789412
Congratulations!!

>>33788597
Like the others said, patience is key. You'll need to stay cool and not become afraid/nervous of those easy parts that you mess up, because they will really become an issue.
I regret not doing that in Hard SA so much. It really bit me in the ass, preventing me of making progress, despite playing better in the later stages and causing me to quit.
An unusual trick is to think about other stuff, while playing. It can help you relax (well, it depends on what you think about).

>>33785280
I call them the knockoff prismrivers

>Finally made it to Yuyuko on PCB easy
If I had avoided some earlier bullshit deaths against Chen of all people I probably could have bombed my way to victory.

For Touhou 11, 12, and 15 which is the easiest to 1CC on normal?

>>33805212
LoLK if you use reisen

>>33792215
Thanks

>>33801631
Remember to mane use of practice mode. Especially helpful to do the latter stages right before a run.

No shame in using continues if it’s just to unlock stages for practice.

>>33805353
this.
Reisen is easy mode.

You ARE watching Touhou World Cup, right?
https://www.twitch.tv/touhou_replay_showcase

>>33815526
WBaWC scoring is probably the category i care about the least but im watching just to see if we can get an upset on chyna

>>33815631
we're currently utterly destroying asian pussy thanks to borealis being a god

>>33815526
seeing the players flop at lines is too painful

>>33815728
this is his redemption from getting fucked by lines last year. 10.6b, what a god. so far none of the other players got past lines while borealis got 1/2 full hypers off.

11 murasa

>>33816028
>>33815994
are you fuckers in the community or outside observers?
anyways, bore's gonna set a WR i'm sure of it

borealis is a god

BOREALIS BREAKING WORLD RECORDS LIVE
ABSOLUTE
UNDENIABLE
GOD

11.982B LIVE
LINEAR CREATURE STATUS: FUCKED
WORLD RECORD STATUS: SHATTERED

I think we should have a seperate world cup thread.

I missed the WR. Will a replay be uploaded?

>>33805976
Finally cleared it. Took me about a week. I don't think it would be impossible for me to do a 1cc in the near future, I just have to memorize Youmus patterns.

>>33816656
It’s only two runs once every week. Not worth it

>>33816673
Of course.

I switched to linux earlier this year and now I tried playing touhou again, but the music doesn't come out of the game, does anyone know how to fix this? using wine

>>33820344
Are you using an old Wine version? I remember having to switch it's audio output to ALSA, instead of PulseAudio on older versions.

>>33820523
I got it from Mint's repository so probably, I'll try getting a newer one

>>33820593
Try wine-staging. It is on Mint's repos. Pretty much the most recent version out there.

>>33820627
I tried a newer one and it worked, thank you!

>>33823200