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Does Tomefure Second have better pacing?
I want to punch my monitor everytime Sakurako brings up muh rules and Shiina's blogpost to halt development

>>44230999
What Sana is this?

>>44230999
That petite frame. Those soft colors. Has to be Itou Noizi.

>>44231168
>Itou Noizi drawing bestiality.
I wish, anon. I wish.

>>44231030
Are you fucking kidding me? That's the best part. I've been searching for that thrill of bending rules one after another ever since.

This charmed me. Any eroge heroine who thinks she's the purest but she's actually naturally cockteasing?

/jav/

>>44231168
Just curious, has anyone here read any of the really early Noizi Ito games, like Wasurenagusa or Komorebi ni Yureru Tamashii no Koe?

>>44230999
Cute colours

>>44232304
colors*

Heroine from unannounced Key full price VN.

>>44231030
It does away with both of those, yes. Also a lot of the "getting to know each other" parts. Before the game starts, all the characters are in a chat room and it's assumed they'd been talking a lot there before meeting for the first time.

What is the Japanese for "recommended route order"?

>>44233308
https://youtu.be/OjNpRbNdR7E

fire

>>44233351
オススメの攻略順 or something along those lines.

>>44233384
Why did you leak an opening theme for new key vn?

If anyone's interested we got some news regarding 黒白のアヴェスタ. It's being released in two parts, the first part is slated to be released within 2023, the second in 2024.

>>44232284
I read Komorebi I really like it

>>44233384
>>44233308
Should I play the Mao-chan or Xi-chan route first?

>>44233351
On egs it's 推奨クリア順

>>44233627
thanks anon

>>44233552
Wish it was one release but it's one of the only things I'm excited for so I'm still happy with half sooner instead of all at once later

>>44233552
Nice hope this year I'll finish dies irae and kk

>>44234008
chronologically, avesta comes before either of those entries, so you're good to go with reading that first if you wish but you'd get more out of it if you read DI and KKK

>>44233552
Nice, I need more chuuni kino.

>>44234020
Yup still gonna read DI and KK first.

>>44232284
Also read Komorebi, very comfy. More plot than expected too.

>>44234008
>>44234081
Don't forgot Paradise Lost

Anyone here played the Ikusa Megami series? Does the latest entry finish it or does it end on a to be continued sequel bait?

>>44234088
is it good?

>>44234464
Yes. You don't get 00s edge like that anymore.

>>44233552
https://youtu.be/AS5Pgp7yqUw?t=866

>>44234949
it really feels more amateur than when he was with light

>>44234949
How did anyone think 2 plain black rectangles was a good text box design? Weird that they reverted to it for this stream when their latest screenshots were changed

Any hopes for C102? RWA3? New August? Jashinchan? Noratoto3?

>>44235236
It's minimalist. You don't need more.

>>44233308
Where did they share this? I can't find it

>>44235337
They shown her on stream on their youtube channel

>>44233552
Damn, I guess I have to give Dies another chance. I've read only two endings but it never really won me over, and that's really weird because I usually love chuuniges.
Maybe now that I'm older and wiser I can appreciate its subtleties more.

>>44235348
>I've read only two endings
Did you do Ayase -> Kei as part of the normal play order? The VN gets a lot better after that, those two routes are definitely the weaker two.

>>44235245
Hopefully for them to ban vtuber shit

>>44235352
Yes, I did it in the recommended route order. I guess I didn't get to where the VN gets really good.

>>44235348
>>44235375
How the fuck do you quit after the Kei ending? It's basically a giant cliff hanger with the villains laughing at you in a meta way.

>>44235384
sounds pretty cringe

>>44235391
Things only get cringe to the extent of how insecure you can be you know.

>>44235384
Maybe I was the cringe one back then... I swear that in the near future I will pay for my past sins and I will read Dies in its entirety.

Speaking of Dies Irae, ever notice that the IQ of the heroine goes up with the route progression?

>>44235506
Kasumi comes before Kei though

>>44235515
I would argue that Kasumi is dumber myself, but I guess it's debatable.

>>44235506
It's not a big gap between all of them in the first place.

>>44235546
Kasumi is basically just as dumb as a rock. No signs of intelligence from her ever. Kei is "book smart", but has the emotional maturity of a 5 year old which caused her to make absolutely braindead decisions. Possibly dumber than Kasumi depending on your perspective. Marie is more naive, but actually has pretty good gut instincts/judgement. Her not killing Mercurius and falling for his plan was a pretty good move. Rea actually seems like a girl of slightly above average intelligence. Her plan of using Isaac against Reinhard is something none of the other heroines could have done.

Key's Newest Title: "Blossom Whispers"
https://key.visualarts.gr.jp/blossom_wh/

"Blossom Whispers" is a captivating visual novel by renowned developer Key, set against the backdrop of China. This immersive story follows Qiu, a young man haunted by his turbulent past, as he embarks on an emotional journey to redefine his future and find solace in the beauty of life's fleeting moments.

The game unfolds in the vibrant city of Shanghai, where Qiu, a talented musician, struggles to come to terms with the loss of his twin sister, Mei. Burdened by grief and a sense of guilt, Qiu dives into his music, seeking solace and a way to heal his wounded soul. However, he soon discovers a mysterious melody that mysteriously leads him to an antique store called "Blossom's Whispers."

The store, hidden within a labyrinthine alley, holds the power to grant wishes linked to objects symbolizing the essence of the customers' aspirations. Inside, Qiu encounters a unique cast of characters such as the confident and enigmatic Chen-Li, the silent and mysterious Yue, and the gentle Fei, who bears a striking resemblance to his dead sister. Each with their own intricate stories and desires, they serve as his guides in unraveling the enigmatic world of "Blossom's Whispers."

Driven by the hope of regaining his sister's presence, Qiu delves into the depths of his memories and embarks on a quest to collect the five legendary "Blossom Objects" representing the five key aspects of life: Love, Friendship, Dreams, Forgiveness, and Hope. As Qiu searches for answers, the choices he makes and relationships he forms will greatly impact the outcome of his journey. Yet, beneath the surface, a far greater mystery awaits; an ancient legend tied to the whispers of cherry blossoms and the fate of destiny itself.

With stunning visuals, an evocative musical score, and captivating storytelling, "Blossom Whispers" immerses players in an enchanting world, blending Chinese folklore, philosophy, and modern themes of grief, love, and self-redemption. Explore the depths of human emotions, unravel the mysteries of the past, and discover the transformative power of hope and personal growth in this unforgettable visual novel experience.

>>44235737
>set against the backdrop of China
WTF I LOVE Tencent now

>>44235737
Is this real? Link doesn't work.

>>44235737
Did you get this from chatgpt or something? That link isn't real.

>>44235737
If this was real it would probably give me the motivation to learn Chinese.

>>44229659
Ended up dropping this kusoge. What a fucking waste of time. I don't get how they can take a premise that perfectly appeals to me on paper and then make it so boring. And then I got to the fucking enema scene and she actually excreted something. Disgusting and I uninstalled the game out of anger there.

>>44236516
>And then I got to the fucking enema scene and she actually excreted something. Disgusting
What do you think is the point of enemas? Do you also complain about NTR in your NTRge?

>>44236516
>And then I got to the fucking enema scene and she actually excreted something
Picked up.

>>44236516
It has scat? NICE!!

>>44236550
Well I mean I didn't sign up for that to begin with, but I've seen enema use where she just has to suffer and hold it in during the H scene. On it's own, that's whatever for me but it went too far for me.

>>44236579
Honestly, I don't know if it was actually supposed to be poop because for some reason it was a clear color and not brown and I didn't bother to read the text.

Be my oracle. Should I play Amairo Islenauts、Sanobawitch, or Dracu-Riot next?　I'm torn between them because of the dog girl, Haruka Sora's role as Meguru/the game's popularity, and Erina being Kanna's VA, respectively.
I've played and adored Senren Banka/Riddle Joker/Cafe Stella. I liked Tenshi Souzou but it's by far my least favorite of the 4 if that informs a recommendation

>>44237427
They're all good choices. Sanoba has the best heroines, you'll love Meguru. Dracu Riot has Miu, Azusa and Elina, the story can be dumb at times but better than Riddle Joker. Amairo's fantasy world is nice and it's the only one with a brown heroine. Dog girl wasn't my type.

>>44237427
You should graduate from moege to chuunige

>>44237427
I liked Sanoba the most but like the other anon said they're all good choices.

>>44237462
I read both and there aren't that many good chuunige anyway

>>44237427
Riddle Joker is arguably the best out of that bunch just by the MC alone, but otherwise they're more or less the same.

>>44237503
Masaomi is the most mature/least disgusting, Satoru is the coolest, Kousei is the funniest。If the protags were voice acted he would actually have a decent お気に入りボイス count

>>44237427
Play Amairo Islenauts. People don't like it for some reason but Airi is the miracle of this universe.

>>44237427
I'd say if you liked those then there is nothing to worry about but I like SR, RJ and TS and never finished Sanoba because it bored the arse out of me.

>>44237427
>>44237715
Seconding this but for the Carlady girl with tasty tummy

>>44237715
>>44238099
Was leaning towards Sanoba but your passion and that girl looking like Hazuki convinced me

Which eroge makes scat really erotic for those who aren't in deep shit into the fetish already? Serious answers please.

>>44238293
>that girl looking like Hazuki convinced me
https://litter.catbox.moe/vzof8l.ogg

>>44237427
I hope you are spacing them like 5 months from each other and not actually playing them in a row since they are all the same shit.

>>44239063
Some men just want to moeru
I can enjoy 5 mega man games in a row. They may be the same exact formula, but the content within it is different. New levels, boss fights, and music every time. Unless you're deep into certain forms of classical, traditional, or jazz music, the overwhelming majority of music you enjoy all uses the same basic song form (verse-verse-chorus-verse-chorus and so on...) with little twists here and there.

>>44239251
>the overwhelming majority of music you enjoy
You are not making yourself look any better if you are comparing yourself to normalfags who listen to generic shit buddy.
I have no problem with moege and i've enjoyed some of them, im just saying it because yuzusoft reuses the same formula, even cafe stella that was supposed to have an adult MC is pretty much the same as their past works except he can sometimes go drink with his coworkers.

>>44239251
ahem, I'll have you know that I'm a massive prog rock fan.

>>44240060
>You are not making yourself look any better if you are comparing yourself to normalfags who listen to generic shit buddy.
You simply don't realize the meaning behind what you're typing, I think.
>yuzusoft reuses the same formula,
My post made no attempt to deny this. Actually, I embraced the fact, if you would pay attention
>>44240152
Most of the great prog rock albums have multiple great songs that use basic song form though.

>>44240180
I only exclusively listen to the 20 minute prog epics that use some other weird form. I'm joking of course, but those are usually the best songs on the album.

>>44239251
>the overwhelming majority of music you enjoy
Somehow I don't think your statement covers industrial field recordings or no-input mixing board

>>44240219
The relative novelty of their form is typically part of their enjoyment, but of course their content is also good if it's a good song. If it's a beginning-to-end/developmental form rather than a more symmetrical one the form itself can play an even bigger role in the enjoyment. When it comes to the more simple forms, content like the main melody, root progression, and harmony has to carry the piece. Point is the form is just that, form. To relate this to VNs...dialogue and events, voice acting, characters, etc. exist in and of themselves whether the plot or scenario (which also offers much enjoyment in its own right) is the most generic thing you can think of or a randomly generated non-sequitr sequence of events
>>44240251
If that constitutes a major part of your regular listening then I stand corrected

Do trap characters in VN's with actual personalities exist

>when you must voice a schoolgirl, but you are over fifty and your acting ability is that of a VN voice actor, so you end up sounding like a tranny instead
I won't namedrop anyone out of respect for their determination, but hotdamn their goes my boner.

Haruna ren would never

>>44240295
>VN
>personalities
Nice oxymoron. Enjoy your Jun Watarase.

>>44240347
Is it a role reprisal? If not, then the voice director should be sacked.

>>44240295
Minato from Otome Domain, I guess? He is actually the MC from that game.

>>44240295
They all act like women. That doesn't count?

There's a surprising lack of eroge addressing illegal immigration in Japan.

>>44240478
I didn't even think illegal immigration was a thing over there. You can't just swim to Japan obviously so you would have to overstay a visa and I'm pretty sure they don't hesitate to kick you out.

>>44240488
Smugglers from China have been dumping their own people and SEA in Japan for quite some time now.

>>44240478
>>44240488
Wasn't one of the girls in Kazoku Keikaku an illrgal immigrant? She snuck on a ship if I remember.

>>44240578
What are they too brainwashed by Americans to just deport them now?

>>44240618
A good chunk work in the 風俗 trade and we all know that those old horny men want them around.

Ok I'm really starting to regret getting the all-ages version but on the other hand the original is only partially voiced and with less CGs, so either way I end up getting absolutely fucked. Why do all these "definitive versions" have to be so cucked? Is there really no justice in this world?

>>44241000
If only a fan would come along and combine all the version into an actual definitive cut

>>44241000
>>44241018
I could probably port the H scenes over to the all-ages PC port pretty easily, but I've never actually played the all-ages version because it always freezes for me in wine for some reason.

>>44241050
You would earn my complete respect if you did, and I will have my descendants tell of your miracles so that your name will go down in history as the greatest hero of all time. Anon, please I need that patch.

Can't remember the last time I had a laugh this good. I wasn't really expecting anything but pingpong ended up being the best route so far.

Anyone tried this one? I want to reform some evil women (forma de loli)
https://vndb.org/v12483

Can you patch the voices into the original Fate/stay night or should I just go with Realta Nua?

New love trianglege when? There hasn't been a good one in like more than a decade.

>>44241385
Just play the ultimate edition.

>>44241770
I tried but it was bugging out for me, setting music to classic and language to Japanese muted the whole game.

>>44241783
well shit that's not supposed to happen. Try hunting around for some different versions if you're inclined? Otherwise, play Realta Nua since I don't think anyone ever made a patch to put only voices into the original F/SN without also overwriting the text.

>>44241797
I found the Ultimate Edition a bit confusing anyway, does having the music as "Mixed" mean some tracks will be original and some will be from the Vita version?

>>44241817
Probably but I dunno.

>>44241347
I've had it downloaded for like 5 years but still haven't gave it a shot.

>>44240347
>and your acting ability is that of a VN voice actor
What's wrong with this? You ARE talking about a VN in the eroge thread, right?
>I won't namedrop
Second time in a week I've read this in a VN thread and both times was retarded. Name it or shut the fuck up 2hutroon.

>>44241000
I completely get it sucks but nothing prevents you from just getting both versions and periodically ctrl-ing through the version you don't actually read to see missed content when relevant. It's just a little bit more efforts to do but considering you're into VNs you're probably not inapt at dealing with this.

>>44242795
Not him but "fast skip" in demonbane is slow as fuck and horrible to use.

>>44242795
>nothing prevents you from just getting both versions and periodically ctrl-ing through the version you don't actually read.
Yeah, I'm going to do that once I finish the whole game since I don't know where the H scenes are and I don't want to run into a spoiler by mistake. The sad thing is that the immersion is going to be lost by watching those scenes separate from the main story, but I guess there's no other way.

how many VNs until I can read them comfortably?

finished tomefure
>it's a "happy" ending
my disappointment is immeasurable, my day is ruined, fuck this turgid shit and all who were involved it its creation, and may they rot in the deepest bowels of hell for all eternity with only satan's cock up their bums for company
i flip flopped a lot on whether i loved it or hated it but given how the last entire third of it went down i'm going to have to come down squarely on the side of flop
i have only myself to blame i suppose, for expecting anything. surely the writer is taking the piss, i thought. surely this slimy fuck and his mentally ill harem will get their comeuppance, the whole thing will come crashing down around them, and maybe shiina will get to (sexually) console her onii-chan's broken spirit after the other four are dead or in jail because aimi shanked a bitch for getting knocked up before her. that sort of thing.
i wanted a bloodbath and instead i got what appeared to be a bad case of writer cumbrain, the entire last 5 hours or so was like two pages of shitty doujin writing put on repeat forever
mc was the most loathsome piece of shit i've seen in a long time, like someone read chaos;head and thought 'yeah, takumi would make a great harem nukige protag'
absolutely no one in this shitshow had any redeeming qualities. i liked that sayaka put forth some degree of effort towards not spreading her legs as fast as the others but damn did she ever make up for lost time. the one enjoyable feature for me was watching them tear into each other but when that just fucking disappeared in favor of mindless cocklust it was neither fun to read nor arousing (shame cause the bath scene was honestly really hot, another rare high point)
the porn wasn't even hot because of the fucking mc. if he had any less of a spine he'd be a jellyfish and watching him oscillate back and forth between passive aggressive coward and YEAH BITCH YOU LIKE MY COCK?! only to deflate again seconds later at the slightest provocation was infuriating. yeah, i got mad at porn. it's pretty embarrassing to think about it.
i just kept thinking, ha ha, surely this is the part where he eats crow over his shitty behavior and it all falls apart. and then it doesn't, and he gets worse, and these dumb bitches go even more loony for him. and then reality itself starts warping to just ignore that they're fucking in public everywhere, loudly. the guy who threw a shitfit over the water/electric bill is now going to be putting up 5 teenage moms and their spawn. the game loves this piece of shit and i can do nothing but watch. is this NTR? it honestly felt like that.
>THIS total piece of shit is getting laid and you are basically fucking stupid, the vn
moral of the story, i guess, is never give an 陰キャラ an inch or he'll take a mile and then some

was this actually just an ordinary nukige? did i bamboozle myself into thinking it was anything else? is this normal? am i out of touch, or is it the kids that are wrong? what the fuck was the point of it all. that last one wasn't a question, btw. i now truly understand what was meant by anti-carthasis.
thanks for reading my blog. i hope this seethe brings you some amount of vicarious joy to replace the joy that has been stolen from my life.

>>44243324
8

>>44243324
It depends on your abilities and dedication.

>>44243324
the trick is to find a company and/or writer you like and stick with them, you'll be reading a level of comfort or two above your actual skill after the first one

>>44243343
Shit taste but I can respect a blog post as long as it's not a hookcuck.

>>44243395
>as long as it's not a hookcuck.
he's worse. he started blogposting it the same day it got an MTL patch. can't be a coincidence

>>44243449
oh fuck off, i don't do that shit

>>44237715
That was actually the first Yuzuge I tried. It was a bit boring in the common route but Airi route was worth it.

>>44243455
I don't care if you did because it's fun to see the antihookcuck anon get angry. still a big coincidence

hooking bad?

>>44243545
Get a second monitor

Brilliant character design.

>>44243616
Who in the world uses those foam puzzle mats as a carpet

>>44243545
>GPT-3.5
lol

>>44243616

>>44243616
>>44243686
Windowed, yep that's a hookcuck.

>>44243686
Cow ruined.
>>44243702
For a game like this? No. But why would I not use 大辞林? Not everyone is like >>44243545

>>44243324
2 years for moege
4 years for plotge
>>44243616
This is a preview of what milkfactory vns wll be like in 3 years

>>44243616
post the gal.

Hookchads and windowmode chads live rent free in jopcuck head. The sunk cost over learning a dead language was too steep

The hook"chad" fear this.

>>44243343
I figured you'd hate it based on your initial impressions but these blogposts have been entertaining.

>>44243343
You know what you should read now?
Hasshaku. Now that's a real subversive piece of art.

>>44243854

>>44243891
0.00002￥ has been deposited into your DMM account

>>44243891
i don't know chief, i'm not seeing a lot of subversion here
is that the subversion?

when will be the next metafictionge?

>>44243992
You should understand the whole thing on your first read, it's not that deep unless it starts talking about japanese myths (some really obscure one too) but it's surprising both with the whole hidden plot and the smart-writing if you're into literature you might recognize a lot of clever tricks the writers used like how the dynamics between mc and the two girls shifts and how they at the start blatantly manipulate the mc like some kind of child predators in fact they even use one of the textbook example of manipulation and i instantly saw it.I liked that, i'm reading it a second time right now and i actually started writing a video essay about it, once it's done i'll link it here, if you're interested ofc.
Otherwise if there's something you didn't understand you can ask me.

>>44244296
Not him but I'm very interested in seeing a video essay of this game, please post it once you finish it.

>>44244296
Not him either but I'm interested too. I'll even read the game if it seems like the kind of writing I'd like (art is a turnoff or I'd play now).

>>44243545
Checking vocab is one thing, but if you're dependent on an AI to make sense of sentences/grammar then you're never gonna get anywhere. Use your brain and think.

>>44244481
I do>
1. check words
2. if I understand the context go to next
3. if not, put it on the AI
ez learning

>>44244546
You’d probably understand the context if you actually read

>>44244565
read again what I said retard

>>44244589
Sorry, I never learned to read English properly because I always used a translator :^)

>>44244546
>ez learning
You're not learning. You're patting yourself on the back for being given an interpretation of what's going on in the VN, which has nothing to do with actually improving your internal Japanese framework.
That you're acting cocky and aggressive says it all and you won't be able to hide it from yourself forever on.

>find something you don't understand
>find the means to understand
hurr durr that's not how learning works!

>>44243545
>>44244655
Ah so the MTLfag is now greentexting and posting reaction images because he's not getting the answers he wants to hear. This is getting good.

>>44244655
It’s like having chat GPT solve your math homework for you and claiming you totally understand calculus now.

i use ichi.moe

>>44241827
NTA, but can you share it with the bondage patch and all?

>>44244719
kek

>>44243836
>muh "dead" language meme
Plenty of use for Jap unlike whatever native gobblygook you speak.

>>44244732
NTA but I found it on A-S. Don't know about a bondage patch. BugBug bonus? Game's really hard to find DDLs for.

>>44244866
This one.
http://luxury.nexton-net.jp/_product/lux002/special/tokuten/002/index2.html
Is it the one by GirlCelly? I'm about to check that one and see if it has that.

I wonder how much of the pool water is made of her piss. 10%? 15%?

>>44244546
That AI translation has several errors so you're teaching yourself the wrong thing that way.

>>44245139
Is Nayuri MK.II cute?

>>44245139
That girl should've been wearing diapers. Imagine if it never got cured and she gave birth and it weakened her pelvic muscles, endless piss leaking from her all day long.

Is she just a side character with little screentime? I'm interested in reading this series and all characters look nice but I have issues with this one. It gives me Re:Zero overacting cringe vibes.

>>44245522
>It gives me Re:Zero overacting cringe vibes.
Just quit it and fire up Kruppo meta crap again.

>>44245570
I think I'll just re-read Hentai Prison for the 3rd time indeed. Thanks.

>>44245522
>Is she just a side character with little screentime?
She has a route in game 2

>>44245637
Read this https://vndb.org/v15871 and share your though. I plan to read it after I finish my current backlog.

>>44245698
It looks pretty interesting, we'll see. I was exaggerating though and I do plan to pick up Ley-Line eventually.

>>44245698
Stalling this right now after doing the first route because it gets really melodramatic. I hated Yamiko and the ridiculous restrictions she placed on Rio. Literal child abuse and how come no one thought it was weird how she adopted a kid for child labor? So glad she's apparently dead. But they imply that there's more going on behind the scenes so I'll have to keep reading.

>>44245902
>>44245698
lucle's stuff is always melodramatic
i find it hits a good sweet spot for me of angst without getting full maudlin due to a solid focus on good characters, but there's always some parts that miss or drag on too long. istoria for instance was a near relentless miserywank but i still enjoyed it
i will say routes in his games are usually pretty underwhelming, sometimes i get the feeling they get passed off to an intern or something to give the Talent more time to weave his artful true route. you're better off plowing straight through to the end unless you really, really like a character

lucle is however the reigning god-king of tragic incest stories so if that tickles your pickle then it's worth sticking around

>>44245902
>>44246268
Thanks for sharing your though.

>>44245698
>>44246493
nta but I should let you know that the word you're looking for is "thought(s)" not "though".

>>44246510
Thanks for the reminder I'am an esl kun

>>44246493
You're much welcomed, much happiness that you appreciated my though.

What is the hottest Kiritani Hana' H-scene? Asking for friend, of course.

>>44246268
I played Unmei Yohou and enjoyed it since it felt more grounded and not as "miserywank". Even the writing was less flowery than the style in Kamimaho (which I do enjoy, though I can see people hating how dramatic every other sentence is). I think Kisaki is next and I really liked the relationship she had with MC and was shocked by what happened to her, so I should get back to it soon. Guess I just need to be in the right mood for angst.

>>44247454
Spanking scene in Monobeno.

Any VNs similar to Watanabe's Kuru series?

>>44247454
Any Nene scene in Sanoba Witch

Anyone here read on a Vita? Can you get any VN to work on it or does it have to have a legitimate compatible port?

>>44249662
Just read pseudo VNs on it like atelier or neps.

https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=8854922
Does anyone know if this is an actual vn or not? I've tried searching both the Japanese and English name in google and vndb, but nothing came up

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dropped!

>>44250091
Check the source link. Planned release is 2024

>>44250091
I found it in 5 seconds of googling, lol

>>44250142
Didn't think of that kek, thanks

>>44250131
Picked up.

>>44250131
>ハーレムを楽しもう
Is this the title?

>>44243545
I also use AI sometimes. Like maybe once a week it's just impossible for my brain to make sense of something and I need a different perspective.

>>44244546
I don't think that's a totally horrible way in learning the language like everyone here is shitting their pants over but if you aren't constantly testing yourself on your comprehension and making your own assessments then it's pointless. It's not "ez learning" when you're deliberately enabling bad habits.
Tbh AI's accuracy is absolutely lousy, especially nowadays. I wonder if that was done deliberately.

harems are only fun when either there fighting or the girls are bisexual

>>44250812
Only agree if the fighting ends up with them being clit sisters after a big catfight orgy

>>44246268
I still remember him tweeting about forgetting about writing a route for one of the heroines in lupercali when he was working on that.

>>44251002
i wouldnt be surprised if it was kohaku, she got done the dirtiest and funnily enough, the start made it feel like she was the main girl

Imagine an eroge with a collaboration of Japanese and Western writers.

>>44251280
so garbage?

>>44249662
https://vitadb.rinnegatamante.it/#/info/985
https://vitadb.rinnegatamante.it/#/info/837
There are some homebrew ONScripter ports but I couldn't tell you if they're good or not.

>>44251280
White people always want to control everything so it'll be garbage with bad art and woke as fuck

>>44249662
Yeah but I haven't read anything that isn't on PkG.

>>44251280
Western writers are too insecure to write an eroge without being all ironic about it unless they're literally gay furries

>>44251280
it could be cool if the western writer wasn't a weeb

>>44249662
Not literally any VN, but reasonably any (read: PSP and Vita versions), as long as it is/was officially available on PSN
Typically, if people managed to snag a link of its PKG and posted it on nopaystation.com you can hack your Vita and pirate it from there. PSP ISOs (whether extracted from PSN games or dumped from UMD discs) need Adrenaline on top of that.

>>44251280
What have you played that inspired you to think of that? I don't keep track of OELVN's but every time I hear about one it's always something ironic or bordering on mean-spirited parody. Realistically, best outcome you could probably hope for is something like Katawa Shoujo with a loli route.

>>44251352
How would a non weeb handle otaku archetypes?

>>44251280
Non meme answer would be they'd probably mesh well with gyaru centric nukige since it pretty much derived from valley girl culture.

>>44251507
- moe girls would literally have a learning disability
- love triangles with 2 guys
- misunderstood rebel mc
- that one ex-girlfriend who still likes mc
- girl already has a boyfriend but he's an asshole
- house parties
- government is the big bad guy

>>44251568
Where does the black fit in?

>>44251568
Half of these aren't too bad really

>>44251568
>- love triangles with 2 guys
Macross 7 was kino

>>44251577
Big planet dance fan I presume?

>>44250689
It does make mistakes though, keep that in mind. Save those lines somewhere and come back to them in a few months and you'll be surprised how many more you'll understand.

>>44251597
Planet Dance is my brain's background music

>>44251568
>>44251576
>>44251577
So you like tropes when they relate to you huh?

>>44251620
I have not experienced any one of those besides "government is the big bad guy" but that applies to everyone on earth, so not sure how it relates to me in particular.

>>44251642
>I have not experienced any one of those besides "government is the big bad guy" but that applies to everyone on earth, so not sure how it relates to me in particular.
Spotted the tax evader.

>>44251568
i have seen literally all of these things in eroge

*shoves japanese nerd into a locker*

>>44251772
Then the Revenge of the Nerds plot kicks in.

>>44251677
Yeah, these aren't that American.

>>44251373
Nta but I played this https://vndb.org/v20043 and thouht it was a decent nukige. From what I've seen they are pretty close in spirit to doujin works actually.

>>44251891
>Art from random different artists.
Westoids are only capable of theft.

>>44251891
>The characters are an ensemble of some of our favourite hentai girls, shamelessly ripped off from commercial Japanese visual novels.

>>44251891
I want to give them shit but they have Kurumi right there so at least they don't have completely shit taste

>>44251891
>stolen art
What's this? Newgrounds still? Westerners can't draw weeb for shit unless they have Asian blood.

>>44251938
I just like the ideas and system of that one. I don't really mind the art, probably because I'm used to RPGMaker games and their recycled assets. There are other games with original art too though the style still feel somewhat Western.

>>44251891
EVNshitters brazenly steal art for decades yet the internet only complains about AI despite the "stolen" art not even looking like the original. Dumb westoids should stay out of eroge, anime and anything else Japanese. They're also trying to repurpose JRPG as "RPG resembling Japanese style" to deny "RPG made in Japan." I hate them.

>>44252086
It's mostly Japanese artists complaining that AI is theft and it's an extension of their 無断転載禁止!!! that they were always saying before because of mostly westerners stealing their art.

>>44252274
I think westoid normalfags outnumber a few japanese artists complaining. 4chan is very pro-AI but the rest of the internet isn't

>pro-AI
Fuck off faggot

artists are going to give any pretext to hate AI art
personally I don't like them because they're filled with mistakes, but eventually AI is going to take over

Human artists learn by imitating copyrighted art too. Computers are just much better at it

>>44252315
>4chan is very pro-AI but the rest of the internet isn't
The 4chan you're living in is in an alternate dimension.

>let's not do anything because of AI
100% sure you guys don't know Japanese either and instead use MTL and AI lmao

>>44252315
I've seen Japanese people that support AI (including artists). In it current form it's just a tool so naturally there will be people who can use it more effective than others. Shouldn't be that different from switching from analog to digital art. Even if sentinent AI becomes a thing people would just treat it like another artist at best.

Remember, the goal is not to convince them that AI art is superior, but rather to foster a constructive discussion that helps them see the potential value and impact of AI in the realm of artistic creation.

oops i copy and pasted the wrong thing

AI isn't some nifty little toy. It's corporate+military tech for control, espionage, etc. Just like ARPANET, GPS, and all other repurposed tech we get fed back as gadgets. Supporting it is selling your soul (what little you have left) for the artistic equivalent of a Big Mac.

>>44252086
Stealing art normally is bad and stealing through AI is also bad, not hard to understand

government mandated AI waifu when?

>>44252412
Exactly, it's not as bad of a situation as people think. Artists who don't give a shit about AI and ones who integrate it into their workflow will survive.

>>44252383
>>44252343
Most boards have AI generals and AIspam is everywhere. You need to get out more from this dead general.

>>44252412
Exactly. I've only seen Japan embrace AI because it's fun and useful. It's no different than vtubers, text to speech DeepL voiceroids and other things. Very few care about artists or morals. AI will never be sentient, that's not a problem to think about.

>>44252449
AI doesn't steal. It learns from publicly available art what art is to then generate its own. There's no stealing. At best you can tell the AI with a prompt "draw Muvluv Sumika in Japanese artist koku's style". What you get isn't stolen art, just an imitation. It's the same as fan art or someone going to the museum and then replicating Dali or Picasso's styles. Nothing is stolen.

Any eroge that’s stylish, set in modern Tokyo and have rap music or just track with vocals?
Something like a persona rip off, something besides dohna dohna

>>44252700
Consider almost any other genre of music instead.

can i jump straight into the tsui no sora remake without missing stuff?
normally i wouldn't ask but something about it has the whiff of one of those meta- "it's a remake but actually it's a sequel" things

>>44252668
Machine learning isn't the same as a human copying no matter how much you want to pretend it is

>>44252740
If I remember correctly there’s a one short scene that’s will hit differently if you played subahibi first, if you don’t mind it it’s okay to start with the remake

>>44252740
You should read Subahibi first for the Tsui no Sora Remake. If you just want to experience Tsui no Sora you should read the original. You don't need the original for the remake though.

>>44252808
You're right, machines are better at it.

>>44252817
>>44252824
reee i knew it
is there a lot different between the original and the remake? i'm not proud of it but nice shiny new pictures go a long ways towards making me like something

going back to a vn you put on break for a few months is rough

machine learning is the same as data collection
if you don't want to get your data stolen then don't post it on twitter

>>44252873
yeah I've pretty much dropped sakura moyu because of this. I can't get back into the atmosphere of it and the scenes feel so padded.

>>44252927
How far did you get

Another round of off topic trash
Great

>>44252361
>>44252833
Damn. Having to remind myself that people below average IQ are browsing this general is a weird feeling.

>>44253018
still on the common route

>>44252873
If you can read for an hour or two that feeling usually goes away. If you've forgotten details then just wait longer and reread them.

>>44253128
You're fine then the common route is barely the beginning, the meat is in the routes. That said if the style isn't for you don't force yourself

How the fuck did Craftwork get Sugita?

Is there a ranking or list of recommended VNs? I've read a few but I'm finding a lot of them are super generic.

>>44253307
you can get anyone as long as you're not doing porn or the characters they're voicing arent involved with porn

>>44253355
vndb

>>44253355
What have you read

>>44253355
Good: VNs I like
Bad: VNs you like

>>44252449
>stealing is bad
This statement requires proof and I can't imagine how you would do it, so I preemptively accept your concession.

>reading VN
>all of a sudden for a couple of lines, seiyuu reads them out completely deadpan in a different tone of voice, like she's reading straight from a script
>goes back to normal right after
weird as fuck. it's like the seiyuu forgot she was acting for a few lines.

Surely they will leave one day and the thread quality will go up right?

>>44253568
I prefer when they don't edit out mistakes and keep bad takes with the good line.

>>44253568
>Seiyuu's have so much fun reading a dumb line her voice goes back to its regular everyday speaking tone
Love it

>>44253438
I can't remember everything but this would be representative: FSN, Cross Channel, Rewrite, True Remembrance, Clannad, Little Busters, Grisaia, Majikoi, CHAOS;CHILD, G-senjou no Maou, Aiyoku no Eustia, Bishoujo Mangekyou, Hakuchuumu no Aojashin, Saya no Uta, Narcissu, Sorceress * Alive!, Dracu Riot, Ao Kanata.

I'm finding way too many VNs fall into the same pattern of copy pasted high school romance with some kind of shallow sports or supernatural drama plastered on top.

How can I play YU-NO? Thre is both an original and a remake, and almost everything seeded looks like pre-patched english.

>>44253568
>>44253600
>it's a "you pig disgusting creepy piece of shit otaku" line or similar
>seiyuu delivers it in a manner so convincing it's hard to believe she doesn't really feel this way

>>44253766
Do yourself a favor and play the original, you will need both the HQ Music Pack and Japanese Voice Acting Patch to enjoy the game at its best. Both the game and the patches are on nyaa I think, they may be in different torrents though.

>>44253858
*sukibei

>>44253641
If you don't like otaku media why are you forcing yourself? Also you're listing VNs you read in English. How is it relevant to this thread?

>>44253766
I remember downloading it in English but was still able to play it in Japanese later because the exes were different. Not sure if it was from nyaa though. Also yeah, definitely play the original version.

>>44253641
What sort of stuff from other mediums (anime, manga, LNs, etc.) do you like? What's your absolute favorite otaku work? I've seen plenty of dudes who stick around otaku media despite obviously hating it and wanting it to be fundamentally something it's not. Maybe you're better served reading "high literature"

I had no expectations of her as a good heroine but Tamaki's route is so bad. Many of her common route events were shrine visits or her doing wacky miko stuff.

Her route though is the driest and longest fart you can imagine. Shrine visit after shrine visit. Dream after dream. Her backstory in dream form was good but it is such a rehash of other heroines. The first date with her was fun but then another dream had to announce drama coming. It came and was another dry fart. She foresaw that they can't have a future together because MC rejects her confession. Yet MC already is in love with her and knows about her dream. She tries to reject him but he confesses to her because then the foreseen future won't come true. Her ability seems very flawed. Now the next semester begun and everyone knows about her ability. MC is worried so he has sex with Tamaki who he's been dating for 3 weeks without knowing if they're dating. The time skip and abrupt scene end after the confession was really bad.

Almost nothing happened so far and this route's been long already, yet I'm only at the start of page 5 of almost 7. What the hell is this route and how can it be padded even further than this? I regret not reading Izumiko's route first.

>>44252873
I never have that issue. The one time I went back to a VN I stalled for 5 years I reloaded an earlier save to refresh my mind and realized it wasn't necessary.

>>44254012
almost 8* pages. Well fuck, I hope it gets better from here on. Someone once told me this is his favorite route. I can't see why.

>>44252627
>Most boards have AI generals and AIspam is everywhere. You need to get out more from this dead general.
I don't go to tourist containment boards and you won't make me.

>>44253954
>I've seen plenty of dudes who stick around otaku media despite obviously hating it and wanting it to be fundamentally something it's not.
That aptly describes the green guy from the Hauu Omochikaeri blog to a T.

>>44252627
>You need to get out more from this dead general
What? Like /g/? Fucking lmao. The quality most of everywhere outside /jp/ is ridiculously garbage. It's massive proof EOPs are irredeemable.

>>44253954
It's funny because that type usually doesn't like "high literature" either or understand the characteristics appreciated in that kind of writing, so they end up having similar complaints that miss the point. Life is best when you can enjoy both the lowbrow and highbrow and part of what I love about eroge is how so many shamelessly mix together both.

>>44254816
That type of person is concerned with their self-image in relation to their environment, so they're not entirely aware of what they value since it gets passively shaped from the outside. What they consume is like getting cred to them basically. You can tell from the wording of the initial question with them using the word "ranking".

>>44254866
So what would be the eroge equivalent to this?

>>44254623
all the green fag wanted was good plotge. all he "previewed" was moege, nukige and plotge he considered shit. his high standards for good eroge made him a joyless retard. I wouldn't be surprised if one of those avg. score 1.9/10 accounts was his.

>>44255144
>all the green fag wanted was good plotge.
His metric for good was Type Moon slop. He was never going to have a good time.

I 100% cleared Himanatsu so I thought I'd make a post about it.
I had a dozen of 夏ゲー to pick from and I have to say I don't have any regret having chosen it over the others.

While I did have a few things to say in regards to some of the individual routes, the true route ended up being that great that I'm leaving this experience completely satisfied. It does not have the kind of grandiose or tumultuous turns of events found in other works of the same genre out there, but something about it is humble in a way that made me completely fall in love with it.
Even though I have a huge backlog to go through, it does make me wonder if this kind of work will eventually go extinct.

Reading order: Ruka > Yomi > Daiya > Tsukiko (PS3) > True route.

For information, the PS3 version only adds a few extra CGs for Ruka's route and there are no additional or replacement dialogues for H-scenes. I used RPCS3 for it and thoroughly checked everything. Considering how inferior in quality the audio, text and UI are on this version, this is not recommended to play at all outside of doing it for Tsukiko's route. Speaking of which, Tsukiko's route can be played either before the true route or after it. I recommend before it however.

We're still early into August, so if you are looking for a pure Summer experience then I highly recommend it.

>>44255144
>>44254623
i was consistently under the impression he played a bit for laughs and maybe to vent a little, if i had to do a write-up for every trash nukige i was completely uninterested in i think i'd be pretty critical too
at no point did i think what he wrote was serious, hell if the two parts were written by the same person i wouldn't even be surprised

>>44255222
the writeups were based on preview pics and synopsis or playing trials. the guy was 99.98% negative about everything and while the writeups were humorous the content was serious. that's not normal.
>hell if the two parts were written by the same person i wouldn't even be surprised
I hope for his own sanity that both of them were the same person. that he was a plotfag desperate for new plotge who was too ashamed to admit he liked imoutos and lolis so he invented another person who only loved what he was ashamed to like. but if that's true he became a gachafag lol

>>44255215
>I had a dozen of 夏ゲー to pick from and I have to say I don't have any regret having chosen it over the others.

I didn't pick this one and I have regrets. But then again, I don't care much about vn matching irl season, so gonna read it later.

>>44255215
Seems not bad. Thanks for the post.

>>44255297
yeah i mean i'm not saying they were particularly insightful, reading ones of games i've played shows he really had no fucking clue what he was talking about for half of them
i mean it's dumb to call him a joyless retard when that's obviously the bit he's playing
it's like getting mad at the guy playing bad cop for being an evil mean person

>>44255320
What did you pick?

>>44255330
but that assumes he was playing a joyless retard. I think he really was one. the only game I can think of that he liked was Natsu no Ame and there's nothing about it that he couldn't find in dozens of other games

>>44255340
picked haruuru instead of doing any natsuge when I had natsuge mood :^)

Why did they give her such an erotic outfit? jesus

>>44255466
That's a child

Hadashi Shoujo? Hadashi Shoujoke!
See this? This happens a minute into the game and it'ds an early sign that a company just doesn't care. This is the exact pic that was on the promo site, they just psted it into the game. The thing is, it was designed to mesh with the site design, where it looked like a photo placed into a yearbook. Here it just sticks out of nothing. And it gives the character's name (tentative) seconds after you have named him!
If you are going to overlook this display of laziness and read the demo, it's going to get much worse. Not even an hour in (which hour would be normally used to make sure the characters aren't flat and build intimacy between them and the player) four flat characters, confess to mc, because in their description he is a helpful person, even though so far he did as much as Nimoy from monorail episode.
>b-but at leat the sex is good
No. The writer and the artist never talked to each other and it results in action not making sense. Here's how it goes. Nimoy hugs flat character A from behind, Nimoy hugs flat character B from behind. From the angles, it could only happen if Nimoy walked from behind of flat character A to behind of flat character B. This is revealed to not be possible when the sequence is interspliced with a CG of Nimoy lying on his back with his walking muscles pinned down by flat character C and flat character D. Thus, the whole sequence is only possible if Nimoy is Monkey D. Luffy. I will never learn if they really pull this schitzophrenic twist, because this is the point where I felt too insulted to continue. I won't pirate this game. Ino is okay, I'll check out the gallery on panda. Everyone else was just leeching on him.
Of all human qualities the one I detest the most is dishonesty. If you spend half a year developing and promoting something that ends up amounting to what miel can do in a month, you are dishonest.

>>44255466
because Na-Ga and key can't escape their eroge roots. don't worry, the next full game won't have lewd lolis anymore.

>>44255504
/10

>>44255369
Now I want to know his take on Hasshaku.

>>44255215
I think I'll read this one after finishing Summer Pockets.

>>44255588
Now I don't ever want to hear of Hasshaku again.

>>44255537
>Ino is okay, I'll check out the gallery on panda
Huh?

>>44255583
>bought out by chinks
it's over...

>>44255662
doesn't matter. Kud Wafter was their last game

>>44243343
>was this actually just an ordinary nukige? did i bamboozle myself into thinking it was anything else?
Yes, and yes. At its core, Tomefure's a big tiddy nukige. I think you may have been deceived by the fact that it takes a bit of time with the setup. But this is like expecting a milk factory game to be about the oppressed maid class leading a proletariat uprising.

>>44255537
Sounds like a
>ctrl and just read the h-scenes of the girl I like
classic, like half the hadashi shoujo catalogue

>>44235737
I'm like 95% certain this is shitposting because there's no way Key had the time to start on a china-themed game, the acquisition was last week, but if this was real I'd probably give it a read.

>>44255903
>the acquisition was last week
These things get decided well in advance. It was probably part of the contract and so the game has actually been in the works for a while now. This is 100% real.

>>44255903
The text is fake. The cover might be real based on a youtube stream.
>the acquisition was last week
What the other anon said, acquisitions and mergers can take years and are planned for a long time well in advance. Could be why a few companies left Visual Arts.

>>44255935
You think tencent said
>after acquiring visual arts, one of their fifty subsidiaries, key, is going to have to make a chinawank game AND you have to get a massive amount of preproduction done in advance of the deal (that will all be wasted if the deal falls through) so we can announce the game right after
Despite tencent never having done this with any other company of the hundreds they've acquired in the pasts, key is just that special?
They just care about heaven burns red, I'd be surprised if they're aware the rest of the company even exists
>>44255973
Yes, but you don't get people to make games in advance of a merger that are contingent on the merger happening or you've thrown all your preproduction in the trash.

>>44255987
>You think tencent said
Yes. China is too powerful now and there is no turning back. Key's owner had no other choice but to accept. You may not like it but it's how it is.

>>44255987
Creative processes for such long games also take a long time. Whether the acquisition goes through or not they could've chosen to make a chink setting game. It's popular and guarantees sales.

You're working on the misconception that Tencent told key to make that. key could decide on their own to do it. Maybe for popularity or as a symbol of peace and prosperity between 2 new partners.

Anyway the chinkgame story is fake. Wait for a real announcement of their South Korean game.

>>44256040
>Wait for a real announcement of their South Korean game.
You mean North Korean

>>44256063
Haha yeah like they would make a game about their owner's based enemy.

>>44256063
Would be kino and surpass nearly all VNs.

VN about coaching the strongest kpop idols in order to push North Koreans into overthrowing their regime and cause reunification when?

>>44256451
New thread