/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>Moot is a faggot
What an original insight, I'm sure this isn't apparent to anyone else.

he's slowly becoming lowtax

News at 11

>>6382745
He is gay, yes. What about it?

Goddamn, I really hate moot for that. What a fucking faggot.

Seriously?

>>6382754

It's true.
to get moot's name+trip put Moot#faggot in your name field.

might as well post some fairies

>>6382761
Yes. He said it in the Thread.

But where else on the internet is there for people like us to talk?

inb4 bunbunmaru

>>6382762
>uppercase M

>>6382775
anontalk

>>6382780
No, I mean, appreciators of loli, not child molesters.

>>6382774
You're right.
Jesus christ, moot, I didn't like you much before, but...god damn...

>>6382782
oh. how about notfourchan then?

>>6382780
otakutalk is better

It might be against American law for moot to run a 4chan where loli isn't deleted on sight.

>>6382780
【GAY♂TALK】

>>6382791
I know that another international forum, hosted in Britain, where I frequent is required - by law - to delete Holocaust denial on sight and ban offending users - because Holocaust denial is illegal there.

You guys all know he primarily meant loli on /b/ right?

I'm fairly sure he meant 3D loli.

What thread did he say this in?

>we just don't catch all of them.
Well, he's certainly right about that.

>>ps. do you check your e-mail?
>i read all of it, usually within minutes
For everyone who thinks mailing moot is of use.

>>6382800
That would be an incredible stretch.

>>6382798
Good thing I value protection of important truths over freedom of speech.

>no, but i'm probably one of the least girl-crazy guys on the planet
not a complete faggot.

>>6382800
No, read the thread.

Also, since they were talking about /b/, he is saying he deletes it even from there.

>>6382801
I don't think I can believe that.

>I'm still here. So do you actually REPLY to any of it? I immagine you must get hundreds, if not thousands of emails a day.
>some. i get less than a hundred, and most is unban request/spam/complaints/etc

Which thread?

Also, for future clarity, just call 3d loli CP.

>nope. i haven't followed anime in years.

He has completely become a normalfag.

If this is news to you, you really haven't been paying attention for the last few years. 4chan has died, its owner has revealed his true colours, people have moved on. I suggest you all do the same. When 4chan finally goes offline, there are places for us to go.

>>6382841
>there are places for us to go
Like?

Let's not ruin a potential fairies thread.

>>6382841
I'd like to hear of those places before that time.

Because I know none.

He says he frequents /b/ the most out of any board.

Why? Honestly, it's facebook 2.0 nowadays.

It's kind of like copyright enforcement. You probably won't be seen doing it, but if you are then you get a boot print between your legs.

>>6382849
>potential fairies thread

huehuehuhe It never was and it's even less likely to be now. I would enjoy if people stop posting about moot though

>sorry, but i'm not going to jail for someone who broke the law. we comply with all valid subpoenas and search warrants, as required to do so by law.

moot works with the fbi and police to bring you down.

>>6382837
Hardly a proof. I haven't followed anime in years either, and I've seen many people on /jp/ admitting to the same.

>>6382848
>>6382855

I go to /bun/, Tohno-chan... After 4chan goes under, traffic on those sites will increase hundredfold. It'll be like /jp/, only hopefully not quite as shitty. At the moment, moderation is pretty good, but traffic is slow.

>>6382857
Because it's the main source of 4chan's popularity and fame.

It's the heart of 4chan actually. You may like it or don't but it's true.

i got it more like he´s talking about the NSFW-kind of loli threads

>>6382857

>Honestly, it's facebook 2.0 nowadays.

You said it yourself.

He is such an apathetic faggot

cute not pedo

>>6382875
>It's the heart of 4chan actually.

More like intestines.

>>6382867
>/bun/
>Moderation

>Fuck moot, is there anything wrong with you? You seem WAY too fucking normal.. like too much. Tell me something that is NOT normal about you for once.
>You seem like a pretty cool dude either way.

>a journalist asked this to my father. he spent a day with me and interviewing my friends/colleagues and didn't understand how i could be the one that created 4chan, and as he put it "couldn't understand how to fit the square peg into a round hole"
>the best way i have of describing it is "i didn't define it, and it doesn't define me"
>4chan is a framework of pictures and text. i've always been extremely hands off with dictating what gets posted, past general categories and rules. i support providing a place to discuss anything, although i don't agree with everything that's posted.

>>6382867
Get out, faggot. bun and tohno are just as bad as /jp/, the only difference is that /jp/ is bigger, but they would be exactly the same if they had the same number of users.

>>6382863
He also says he hardly ever playes videogames and that he hangs out in /b/ the most.

Also, Snacks thought he was gay up to last year.

>>6382897

Yeah, well, at least they're not run by moot.

>>6382897
If they're not any better or worse, then why wouldn't we go there in the event that /jp/ closes for whatever absurd reason?

Also why the fuck are people even posting in this thread, myself included.

>>6382898
>yeah i guess. wtsnacks thought i was gay until last december.

>>6382905
Instead they are run by other retarded people. How nice.

>>6382915

I'd take those people over a complete fucking normalfag who doesn't care one whit about his own website any day of the week.

>>6382875
That's true but if he was comming to 4chan just to fuck around on the internet why not go elsewhere? I'm sure even he realises it's full of scene kids and clueless internet faggots now.

>>6382915
At least they allow loli there, one of the essences of /jp/'s being. And they also see a distinction between it and real CP.

>>6382920

>I'm sure even he realises it's full of scene kids and clueless internet faggots now.

Which is exactly why he comes here. Don't you get it?

>consensual and in the missionary position
moot loves it like that

>>6382918
That's not true, anon. That only applies to /jp/ and some other boards.

And you speak as it is easy to keep track of such a huge website.

I dislike moot as well, but I won't ignore nonsense.

>>6382905
Do you think moot moderates /jp/? He pretends it doesn't exist half of the time.

The problem with moot, it seems, is that he completely lacks any kind of balls. He's began living this carefree, humble existence with no desire to prove anything to anyone or attempt any self-improvement. It's kind of sad, as he is obviously intelligent and has potential. If he didn't choose to be this pathetic and was at least a bit of an asshole, he could accomplish great things.

>>6382945
He does exactly what /jp/ wishes they could do with their lives until the day they die.

"Taking it easy" bullshit.

To the people who say that 4chan will close down. It is fucking true, just google moot canvas.

>Poole is still remaining tight-lipped on the exact details of Canvas, but he did tell us that it is “a re-imagination of the online community– a look at what forums might be if they were invented today.” A few months ago, Poole told The New York Times’ Nick Bilton that he was “working on a new project to reimagine what an image board should be today using the current technologies available.” It also appears Poole has bought the domain “Canv.as” for the project.

>Whatever Canvas really as, it has to be fairly innovative, considering that some of tech’s most notable and astute investors are betting on the product. Poole may share more details on the stealth project at TechCrunch Disrupt next week, where he will be speaking at the conference. Poole will be sitting on the “Digital Crowds Into Dollars” panel along with Judy Hu, Global Executive Director – Advertising & Branding, GE;
Brian Pokorny, CEO, dailybooth; and Andrey Ternovskiy, CEO, Chatroulette.

He wants to create some kind of facebook/forum/myspace. What do you think will happen once he finishes this? Either you get thrown out or you have to go over there.

>>6382926
the only problem with loli on /jp/ is, that it´s intentionally belongs to /b/ (even the global rules say that.. )

>>6382944

I know, but I'm not comfortable knowing my favourite board on the internet could vanish at the whim of such a person. /jp/ only exists because moot tolerates it, and knowing that he hates it, I can't help but be a little anxious.

>>6382953
Okay, so can we fucking agree on a place to go to now? Whenever a few valid alternatives are mentioned it's "lolno those are shit".

>>6382955
You do realize moot just said he deletes loli on /b/, because he considers it the same as CP.

>>6382955
It doesn't belong on /b/ anymore than anything else does, /b/ is a catch-all board. Look, VNs are filled with little girls whom you can have sex with, it's appropriate to have it here.

>>6382963

>>6382963

That's impossible. There's always people who'll hate one board and like another, and everyone has a different opinion. Even if we were to create the perfect evacuation plan, the community would certainly be split up. /jp/ as we know it will stop existing the moment moot deletes it, and that's final.

>>6382963
Honestly Tohno-chan seems like the best alternative

It's more active than /bun/ and iichan, has a waifu board, and even though it's on ib4f there are plans to move to a new host

>>6382953
I actually expect that normalfags will swarm this site, leaving us finally alone. God, where do I store all this hope.

>>6382980

I'd probably actually cry if /jp/ were deleted.

I love this board so much.

Get out /bun/ fags and devs and joneses.

Yeesh, what do you expect him to say? "Loli is fine, post as much as you want. Screw the laws (potentially depending on your location), we're 4chan!"? If anything, he's stating what the rules should be, legally speaking, even if they may not be enforced. Plausible deniability.

The most extreme shit might get deleted if it goes too far over the line (then again, it's always been like that), but for the most part it will go unmoderated. Why? Because the FBI and other law enforcement agencies DO watch 4chan, and if moot said anything different, he'd be in shit.

>>6382984
You know that moot will pull the plug when everyone leaves and only 1/4 of the normal people are here?
4chan is something like a disgrace to him, he would gladly delete it from his file and show the world that he can do 100 times better with his new site.
That is how normal people think, my friend. Use something as a stepping stone and let it disappear into the darkness.

>>6382994
Loli isn't illegal in the US. The only reason moot doesn't like it is because the advertisers don't like it, which makes him look like a corporate suck-up.

>>6382994
yeah, people don't realize such obvious things.

moot is convinced /jp/ hates him and refuses to police /jp/ out of fear that any moderation done by him will come with a massive backlash.

Gentlemen, mission accomplished. We have no problem here.

>>6382995
he will take that back once he realizes his fame is gone.

4chan is moot's pride and joy. It's the only successful or popular thing he will ever achieve on his entire life. He DOES care and like a lot this website.

>>6383010
>a massive backlash
such as? anonymous ddos´ing 4chan or wat? or maybe he´s afraid of crazy jptards spamming his phone 24/7?

>>6383021
He will open his mailbox and find it filled with CP.

>>6383021

No, just having to enact complete threadbans because they upset him. It seems even he realizes that if you ban an entire community, there's no community there.

>>6382824,1
prolly some filter

4chan Global Rule Number One:
>Do not upload, post, discuss, request, or link to, anything that violates local or United States law. This will be severely punished and strictly enforced.

How the fuck this thread got as long as it did, I don't fucking know.

>>6382966

Which is ironic given the fact that /l/ was around for a while, and moot only got rid of it because of pressure from advertisers.

Guess his opinions on defending freedom of expression are a bit more tight these days.

>>6383083
The authority of the federal government exceeds that of moot, as unfortunate as that is.

>>6383098

I am Caesar. My authority exceeds all others.

There will be loli.

i don´t get what´s the problem with those adfags.
- loli isn´t against any law
- 4chan is 18+ anyways
- they´re advertising hentai games (including lolis), pantsu and onaholes themselve

>>6383098
The federal government views 4chan as a bunch of harmless college kids. They have bigger fish to fry.

There's other things in life besides masturbating to naked crying children.

>>6383111

>loli isn´t against any law

Yes it is, Jesus Christ do you faggots live in a cave or som- Oh wait, nevermind.

>>6383098

So where's the supreme court ruling on this matter?

To my knowledge a case hasn't been brought to them.

Oh boy, the faggots who hang on to every word Lord Moot says are going to make things fun when they visit from /a/ now.

>>6383108
yeah on >>>/b/ were it's allowed

>>6383123

See: >>6383124

If you can't show me a federal court case, what you say doesn't mean shit.

Regional cases don't count.... especially the Handley case.

>>6383108
>I am Caesar. My authority exceeds all others.
maybe two thousand years ago. You're a bit late to the party.
You liked boys anyways, Gaius

Boy I sure do love living in a country where you won't go before a judge because you masturbated to a drawing of a fictional character.

>>6383111

In nearly all cases it's been evalutated it violates the MIller Test of obscenity, in the US. There are laws against obscenity.

Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition, 2002, ruled that child pornography can be outlawed due to obscenity under the Miller test. The PROTECT Act of 2003 criminalizes loli doujinishi. Deal with it.

>>6383135
The supreme court ruling is that it's protected free speech and they overturn the law. That doesn't stop lawmakers from going back and making the same illegal law over again, though.

>>6383149
They passed a new law operating within the confines of the ruling set down by the Supreme Court. The old was was illegal because it was excessively broad.

>>6383145
Simulated child pornography, obviously. An important word not to miss.

Moot has gone on record several times as stating he HATES /jp/

He even deleted /jp/ once, but everyone invaded /a/ like some sort of VN/Touhou /b/ invasion, and he had to bring /jp/ back up.

Thats right /jp/, you're just as bad as /b/

>>6383145
>Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition, 2002, ruled that child pornography can be outlawed due to obscenity under the Miller test

Obscene is when you look at something in public. It doesn't affect what you do on your computer at home.

>The PROTECT Act of 2003 criminalizes loli doujinishi. Deal with it.

That part of the PROTECT Act has been overturned by the Supreme Court already.

>>6383135
>Regional cases don't count

NEWS FLASH: States and local jurisdictions are allowed to pass their own laws without advance permission from the federal government.

>>6383160

He hates the people that made 4chan what it was at its beginning. If it wasn't for people like us there would be no 4chan.

As usual, the most important people are thrown into the gutter and disrespected. Outcasts.

This thread:
Touhou lolis -> loli boards -> HERP DERP LOLI IS ILLEGAL -> OH NOEZ MOOT WILL DELETE /jp/ SOON -> OMG SICK LOLICONS! YOU CAN´T DO THAT ON THE INTERNET! -> no it isn´t illegal. just let me explain wh-- ->NOOO!! IT`S ILLEGAL! IT`S EVIL EVIL EVIL!!!!!!!!!11oneone

>>6383160
This is a buffer board like /new/. It keeps the shitheads mostly out of /k/

>>6383160
The only reason why /jp/ was deleted was to fix something with crosslinking.

>>6383168
Really? Where you here in 2003?
/jp/ acts nothing like old /b/.
Stop pretending.
Old /b/ had fun for the sake of having fun.
/jp/ is nothing but criticizing other posts.
The board shouldn't exist at all since no one wants to discuss VNs at all.

>>6383162
>Obscene is when you look at something in public. It doesn't affect what you do on your computer at home.
It does if people can demonstrate that your images were acquired over the internet, which they obviously were.

>That part of the PROTECT Act has been overturned by the Supreme Court already.
No. It was challenged by Williams, the challenge was rejected by the district court, that decision was reversed by the Eleventh Circuit, which was in turn reversed by the Supreme Court which upheld the law.

>>6383160
What the fuck would you expect? How fucking retarded are you?
Let's delete /a/ and see what happens.

Now go back to your garbage dump of a board, faggot.

>>6383145

You do realize that neither of those laws would criminalize a drawn picture of Flandre naked, right? There's a lot of gray area, and I don't think many in a city of logical, rational people would consider anything less than outright fucking to be "obscene."

>>6383177

We're the closest thing remaining to 4chan's beginning. Though even we barely resemble it, we remain the closest living descendants.

>>6383177
maybe if there weren't so many shitty/spam threads or /b/a/v/ies spamming their memes we could discuss everything like the slow, easygoing board we used to be

>>6383172
Actually demonstrating why the PROTECT Act magically doesn't criminalize loli doujinishi would be a better use of your time than trying to ridicule the people you disagree with by acting like a retard.

>>6383191
No... A-san who has been here since mid 2004 said /a/ is the closest thing 4chan has.
Seriously what makes you think /jp/ is anywhere near old /b/? You guys do nothing but cry ALL day.

>>6383164

I say it doesn't count because nothing is stopping you from just up and moving to a more liberal, sane, secular society.

>>6383202

I am Caesar. My word trumps the word of your plebian witness.

We are not the spiritual successor to old /b/. Deal with it.

>>6383190
The average normalfag thinks that people who jack off to drawings of girls who look like they're ten are sick disgusting pedophiles.

>>6383164
highschool dropout detected

>>6383202
Here's the post.

>>6383216
Yeah and they're correct because the person masturbating is aroused by a child.

>>6383226

Mods are in league with moot. They have betrayed Rome. Their word is inadmissable in Caesar's court.

>>6383182
>which was in turn reversed by the Supreme Court which upheld the law.

It was revised to disallow loli. He still had other CP, too, so he went to jail, anyway.

>>6383190
Still, a picture of what seems to be a toddler being sodomized by a large fat dude would raise more than an eyebrow from any officers, and you WILL get investigated.

- Holy shit, Mike. Take a look at what just arrived to customs.
- Is... Is that a 5 years old girl? What a sick fuck this guy must be.
- Hang on, I'm calling the boys at the central. I think we got another one.

>>6383231
Clearly Carthage must be destroyed.

>>6383226
Looks like the reason /a/ went to shit wasn't newfag summer after all.

As such
>/a/ is my favorite board
Opinions = invalid

>>6383232
I don't see anywhere in the syllabus of the case that any part of the law was overturned. I can't be arsed to read the whole thing since it's fifty pages long. As far as I know this is the only Supreme Court case that has had anything to deal with the PROTECT Act.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/06-694.pdf

I'd just post worksafe lolis.

>>6383256
This person is angry because he was corrected.

>>6383256
It's his favorite board because of the reasons he listed
And A-san doesn't really watch anime anymore.

>>6383217

You sound upset.

>>6383273

Doesn't watch anime anymore? Sounds familiar. The name escapes me... moat? poot? Huh. Something like that.

>>6383264
Yeah because if someone saw you watch that type of stuff at work it would be "safe"

Its not like you would get fired and killed when you left the building at all noo.

>>6383202
/a/? Yeah, that does remind me of /b/ at times. /b/ at the time whilst it was turning to shit but wasn't all there yet. The whole "doubles" thing is vaguely reminiscent of the "guess your fortune" obnoxious crap that eventually led to the feature getting pulled, or to the equally irritating "guess your post number" shit. Green-text threads are the rough equivalent of the "new-fags can't post in >green" rubbish there was.
There is still some worthwhile discussion in /a/, but it is buried under a mountain of shit.

>>6383275
U MAD-posts aren´t the best way to convince everyone of the contrary

>>6383235

Well, of course. I would never expect such an image to not cause alarm.

>>6383277
Whats your point? Most of /jp/ doesn't watch anime anymore. You going to compare them to moot?

>>6383282
Hey, every board turns to shit.
/a/ is really segregated in that the most of the shitty posters tend to the same threads.
If you want to have a good discussion you make it on the right topic.

>>6383286
Shit posts get replied to by shit posts.

Correct: What you said is wrong for the following reasons.
Incorrect: LOL HIGHSCHOOL DROPOUT LOL

>>6383286

That I'm a high school dropout? I'm not, but who cares? This is /jp/. That isn't pertinent to what I posted in the first place anyhow.

>>6383297

Yeah, it's a funny thing. I have a hard drive full of anime and countless dvds, but I don't really watch them... I haven't watched much for the last two years.

>>6383298
LOL MAD LOL

>>6383298

>advocating child pornography
>expecting to get taken seriously
Maybe some of you guys should team up with NAMBLA

>>6383320
No children are actually molested in the production of loli doujinishi, but thanks for playing.

>>6383324
It might as well be because it doesn't make it any less disgusting.

>>6383324
virtual children have rights too! ;__;

>>6383297

What turns a board, and the site as a whole to shit is a large userbase. It's sad, but the more recognized 4chan is, the worse it gets.
I still enjoy this place, but I do remember having a lot more fun when I first discovered it in 04. I could actually tolerate /b/, and I do admit to visiting /l/ right before it died.

>>6383330
I think a lot of things are disgusting, but I'm not about to put people into jail for it unless involves things like, say, the raping of children.

>>6383331
>>6383324
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalization_(making_excuses)

>>6383340
If you think that the real problem with child pornography is that "it's disgusting" and not that it involves child rape, then you have problems.

>>6383320
I don't like boys, though. It's child erotica and not pornography, anyway.

>>6383324
>>6383331
>>6383333
Keep reaching for the dream guys! Seriously i've seen furrys less in denial.

>>6383351
That's nice. Nobody cares.

HE'S SO BUTTANGERY RIGHT NOW

>>6383346
I don't too list everything that's wrong with it. It should be self evident to anybody who isn't fucking crazy

>>6383357
That's nice. Enjoy your feelings of superiority.

>>6383355
No you are. Here, try masturbating to this. See if it works out for you.

>>6383361
That's nice. Enjoy yours as well. Although mine is more valid.

>masturbate to both loli and mature women

I fail to see this making me a pedophile.
Anyways you guys should be arguing something more worthwhile than this.
Loli is fine until is turns 3D then things go the wrong direction.

>>6383366

I could do it.