/jp/ - Otaku Culture

the NYPD said either become a police officer or no money for my college learning

By choosing something that obviously has demand and I'll get money for. Which is programming.

By fucking your mother until she couldn't stand; falling face up was civil engineering, face down was applied mathematics.

police, because military = more liable to be shot

alternatively, eng teacher in japan because i know their horrible, assbackward language.

i'm graduating in 2 months come to think of it, and haven't even really laid out any concrete plans.

being effay as fuck and having a waifu live happy

My mom chose my major, enrolled me into school, set up my schedule and classes, and pretty much does everything other than the actual coursework for me.

Accounting. Because I don't have enough money to switch majors now (I wanted to do computer science since I love coding and I didn't even mind if I couldn't get a job since the comp sci market is bad, I just wanted to have fun) and my grades are not good enough to enter an engineering program.

I do not look forward to working 40hrs+/wk.

I'll probably kill myself if I manage to get an accounting job.

>>8987439
is she also gonna get you a job when you graduate?

>>8987443
>comp sci market
>bad

>>8987444
I don't know, maybe.
I'm getting some pretty good grades and Engineering field is supposedly pretty empty, that's why she put me in that one.

>>8987443
>I'll probably kill myself if I manage to get an accounting job.

are you zetsubou sensei? why not fund your next major instead of killing yourself over seemingly positive things.

Because it was what interested me the most. Now I have a job in the field and actually enjoy work.

>>8987451
For me anyway, I have no connections with any company so I'm out of luck. They would just outsource all the low level work I would be able to do easily anyway.

>>8987454
It's all fun and games speculating until you actually do it. If I can't even hold part-time resturant jobs for more than a weekend, I don't think I can handle working 40hrs+ a week. It also turns out lots of jobs in accounting aren't unsociable work where you crunch numbers in a cubicle and pass the results on quick reports like I would imagine and prefer.

That was also sort of my plan at first. To get a job for a year or two and get another degree while doing it so I can switch career paths if I don't like it, but I don't think I can do it anymore. I really wished I just stayed in computer science. Maybe I can make some apps later on or something. Either way I'm not happy with what I choose.

Watched shit ton of Gundam as a kid and thought that's awesome so I got into Mechanical Engineering.
Watched a few decent slice-of-life school-themed anime and thought that's nice so got an extra degree in education.

MechEng is nothing like Mecha shows
Teaching is nothing like anime

But if you don't dream you won't live

Sat at PC
Shitposted on /jp/
Decided then and there that it was my destiny to be a NEET

Traumatic experiences as a child left me questioning why life was worth living.

Turns out, I still have that same question. Going to college in pursuit of a bachelor's in Psychology is just one way for me to find the answer/pass time.

>>8987507
Ah, but what if you live in a dream instead?

I chose philosophy because it's fun!

Programming. I had an interest in it and found it pretty fun since early high school, but once I started computer science in university, I slowly began to dislike it. At this point, I hate it but it makes money and it's what I'm sadly going to be doing all my life.

>>8987574
B/c life will rape you in your sleep.

I chose chemistry. Pretty sure there will be some job where I can sit in a lab all day playing with chemicals and writing down numbers and not having to talk to anyone.

If not, bring on the helium.

>>8987616
>generals
>>>/vg/

Still doing generals. I just don't know what I want to do.

Something that will allow me to be as NEET as possible. So I got my masters in biology and I'm teaching at a community college, which means I don't have to research and publish. Summer started last week and I have yet to see the sun.

Anthropology, yay for guaranteed government work with the natives.

>>8987624
You're studying people, to go into a work environment to be around people?

The fuck is wrong with you

I went into Biology as a joke to my AP Biology teacher. Five years later and here I am, still waiting to graduate for a degree that I don't even know why I'm getting.

I wanted to get into Comp Sci but everyone told me the market was flooded and I wouldn't be able to find a job. I would switch majors, but it's far too late at this point and I don't have the money.

>>8987451
Someone I used to know had a masters in computer science. He couldn't find a job anywhere. He became a mover for funiture though, and he makes so good money now. He might be the exception, though with a masters I find it hard to believe that he's not capable of doing anything with his degree. Maybe he was really unlucky.

I don't have a major yet. Liberal arts doesn't count.
People say I should just pick something and go, but this is a huge, expensive dissection. How can I do it just like that?

>>8987654
Major in philosophy! Don't you want to read fun books?

I went into physics to become a theoretical researcher, as in sit in your office all day thinking up stuff that somehow sounds plausible, never do any real work and still get paid.

How's that?

>>8987638
don't you think studying people disarms them a little bit? a lot of the people on here are ideal for that kind of work because they're already very aware of mainstream western culture (mostly the bad things though). impartial thinking would be easy.

>>8987661
they say that with a philosophy major you can pretty much take any grad school degree

I was always good at math and science.

Here I am.

>>8987639
Please respond.

>>8987648

Where does he live and do you know how well he can actually program?

Is there some way a hikki with severe social phobia could attend college? Is there a job where you can use your brain but still stay away from normals?

>>8987689
Use anti-anxiety drugs such as benzos.

Non-existent. You'll have to intereact with them at some point.

>>8987654

First off, NoU. Liberal arts is a wonderful degree to get.

Second, Get the general-education classes out of the way. At least it will give you more time to think about what you want to invest in, since the gen-ed have to be taken no matter what you go into anyway.

>>8987677

I've heard this too. Wonder how real it is.

>>8987689
There are online courses, and I've heard about jobs from home, too

I used to enjoy Physics at some point in my youth.
Now I don't enjoy anything but I'm still here.
I'll either continue postgrad or go full recluse and try to get autismbux.

>>8987689
They have online courses, even through reputable universities. Some places of employment are full of only abnormal people. You could seek them out.

>>8987685
Chicago. Last I heard from him was 2 years. Never logs into his msn either. I have no idea but he did make me a neat little program to scrape some info from real estate sites a few years ago. I can code these programs myself now though.

I'm still going to major in comp sci regardless. I will probably take a double major though, just because I can. I'm too socially awkward to get hired for internships anyway so I need all the qualifications I can get on my resume.

>>8987684
>>8987639
Do you have any idea what kind of career you want?

>>8987639

Shit, Frodo, what the fuck are you doing?

>>8987721
If you aren't going to do internships or struggle to stay in academia, don't go to college at all. A degree means exactly nothing.

it's hard to be motivated when nothing really interests me and all the jobs that make a decent amount of money require long workweeks. I just don't want to end up living my life for nothing but the pursuit of money. Too bad all the trade jobs that are fairly easy going and make an ok living require a lot of socialization.

if I was good at math I'd probably go for chemistry or something just to get people off my back.

>>8987710
Sure, if you like losing all your money to Forex that is. The only real jobs from home are businesses you create or jobs that give you assignments that allow you to work anywhere (and usually also have a physical location where you have to go to work half the time as well).

>>8987710
>>8987718
I have heard of those, but they sound really shady in my country. I can't choose one from another country since online courses require you to be present for exams.

What kind of places of employment are you talking about? Mind giving me some pointers?

>>8987704
I want to avoid interaction with them as long as it's possible. That will be my last option.

>>8987738
I've got nothing else to do with my time. I should know that better than anyone else, especially after knowing someone else in my direct field of interest failed miserably even with a high degree of education, however, I need to try anyway. It's that or being homeless or killing myself.

What exactly else am I supposed to do? If I could get internships, I would.

>>8987746
How are you going to live though?

I plan to work as much as I can in the next 20 years and then retire for 10 years before I finally kill myself. I'm not planning to go into old age. Hell fucking no.

>>8987775
I really think once I no longer have someone to support me I'm just going to end up wandering around like a hobo stealing food wherever I can.

>>8987798
That's just as hard work as having a shitty minmum wage job. EXCEPT you'll also be hungry, cold, and without a home and constantly among people with no privacy. If you also manage to get caught, you'll be going for an even worse time, quite possibly.

Plodded along making mediocre grades in classes for a while. Found something outside my major that I was good at and interested me. Started taking classes even though they weren't in my major and were delaying my graduation. Excelled in them but feared parental reprisal for delaying graduation.

Gave my last fuck and switched majors. Feel confident in my future now and school is all of a sudden more fulfilling and truly intellectually enriching.

Life makes much more sense now, at least in that regard.

>>8987833
From what majors did you switch from and to? I'm having a similar problem of mine.

College is for retards who need to be spoonfed. Learn everything from the internet/books.

>>8987857
yeah, your degree in google is going to look brilliant on paper, dipshit.

you're buying the qualification/endorsement of the university more than anything.

>>8987843
I was an English Language Arts Education major and the more I was exposed to the public school system, the more I dreaded being a part of it. I switched majors to English/Creative Writing after getting a couple publication credits and being encouraged by some professors in the department who are actually published authors.

I'm still gonna have to teach while I'm getting my Masters but I can probably get a gig doing 1101 and other basic English courses. Then I go for a PhD in Literature and hopefully a spot in a reputable workshop.

I know I can get a nice position in the English department at my university once I get to a certain level of education and then just plug away with my writing and hopefully sell a lot of my shit.

>>8987864

>you're buying the qualification/endorsement of the university more than anything

Exactly. The degree is the only useful thing that college can still provide, so if you really need that degree to get whatever job you want then you might as well learn everything you can on your own before you go and then blast through it in college since it will all be familiar to you.

Look at the people in these threads. They have no idea what the fuck they want to do. They aimlessly flop around to different majors, spending huge amounts of money because they went into college as some indecisive retard that had no idea what he actually wanted.

College is not about sampling every different major and finding out what you like. You do that before you go to college and you only go to college if you absolutely need a degree. For example, if you're an artist then a degree isn't worth shit because employment is all portfolio based and you can learn everything you need on the internet or in books.

>>8987887
That's why I don't feel bad for having dropped out of school six years ago. It gave me a lot of time to mature and decide what the fuck I want to do. I'm still 20, so I think I saved up a lot of money and time.

(In my country, if you pass the exam to get admitted to a college they'll just give the school completion certificate.)

I went into pre-med

I plan to become a coroner as I don't trust myself to be in charge of actual people's lives and lack the patience to be a GP

I'm hoping that I can keep my grades up and maybe go to japan on MEXT or some other placxe w/ a similar scholarship that will pay my way through med/grad school

but I'm worried about MEXT, as they teach jap as part of the program and I already know it and Mandarin (languages of the 2/3 countries I'd prefer to go to, and there aren't too many big name med schools in switzerland)
hopefully they'd let me independently study biology/med terms during that period

I bought an acre of land out in a rural forested area, bought an RV with solar paneling, setup satellite so I could have internet, and then started selling flash games that I make on my computer.

I can live like this indefinitely. It's a perfect life.

>>8987908
I thought that sat internet was expensive and really bad

>>8987904

That sounds like a necrophile's dream.

>>8987857
In order to learn enough to be a, say, electrical engineer on your own out of books, you need to be significantly more dedicated than your average person. The average /jp/er is significantly less.

>>8987912

It's slow and expensive, but it's not horribly expensive. There aren't any other options when you live way out in the middle of no where and hundreds of miles away from other humans.

>>8987919
>hundreds of miles away from other humans.
Where do you get food?

>>8987887
Keep telling yourself that, champ.

It's obvious you have zero fucking practical life experience.

It's easy to tell other people how to go about living their lives from the comfort of their parents' basement, isn't it?

Except you sound like a fool.

>>8987576
Is it really?

>>8987929

Do you actually have an argument to counter any of the things I said?

I chose Computer Science because it was easy to get into. I hate the course, I hate the classes, I hate the lecturers. I might switch to business, but it's such a risky thing to switch courses. Plus, I'd have to make new friends, and they'd probably be normals.

>>8987923

>Where do you get food?

You just have to live like those wacky survivalist people in the bunkers, it's not very difficult.

6-7 hours away from the nearest town, so I drive out once a month and stock up. I also have a garden so I can have a steady supply of fresh and delicious vegetables.

>>8987945
Don't do it. The business field is like a normal haven.

>>8987954
Yeah, but maybe the classes are easier, the career field is more broad, I could study abroad in cool places etc.

>>8987420
lol

Why are you people choosing majors based on how much money you might make or how available the jobs are?

Pick what you're passionate about. Life is about having fun and you can't have fun if you are in a job that you hate.

>>8987955
What exactly would you do with a business degree

>>8987416
I like planes, so aeronautical engineering was a pretty easy pick OP. Picking what you like is best, even if the pay's shit or its tough work.

Provided its not something retarded like art history.

>>8988033
This is what my parents and teachers used to tell me when I was 7.

It's not true.

>>8988033
there's a few routes you can take
1) high paying job you don't really like so you can have fun in your off time with the money
2) job you like that doesn't really pay too much but you have fun (harder to pay the bills)
3) job you do like that pays good money (much harder to get for most people)

Chinese and Spanish double major. The Spanish major is because I already know the language and all the classes are easy for me, and the Chinese is essentially adding on to what I already know from Japanese, so all those classes are easy for me. My two majors make up more than half the credits I have to take to graduate. I'm just gonna throw in some extra bullshit credits with music, lit classes, 100 level math/science courses, etc. so that I can graduate without doing much of any real work.

I love having very low standards.

I'm perfectly happy with a studio apartment, so I don't need a career. Any old job will do just fine.

>>8988103
Wait, what are you going to do for a job then? Or just go back to neeting it up?

>>8988103
Why didn't you major in Japanese instead of Chinese then? Wouldn't that be even easier?

>>8988113
>Wait, what are you going to do for a job then?
Translation, English teaching in Japan/China/Korea, or even teaching in a school here in the U.S. if I can find a decent position that's not in a shitty public school in the ghetto (the only places that are really hiring).

>>8988115
The college that offered me a scholarship doesn't offer Japanese as a major. Besides, it's nice to be learning Chinese instead of just sitting through class learning nothing in any Japanese class. I said I already knew Spanish but it's nothing compared to how well I already know Japanese. It would be laughable to put me in any modern Japanese class. It might be interesting to take some classical Japanese, though.

I start college in the fall, major in mathematics. No more shut in life for me I guess.

Making that choice soon, mathematics or art, sigh...
I know what would be the best choice but I just don't know man.

>>8988156
Do what you love. You'll be unemployed either way.

>>8988157
You're so wise /jp/

I wanted to be a musician, artist or writer when I was a kid. I learned relatively fast those fields make for bad-paying jobs, so I killed my dreams and decided to become a doctor instead. I'm on my third year and I'm definetly depressed about my career choice, but I guess it can't be helped so I'll graduate and get a well-paid job where I don't have to work that hard nor make so many hours a week as everyone else. Right now, those are the thoughts that are helping me through this.

>>8988169
You don't think doctors work very hard?

>>8988169

>doctor
>where I don't have to work that hard nor make so many hours a week

Haha.

>>8988172
>>8988175
In my country a doctor who works four hours a day is paid thrice the minimum wage. That's good enough for me, seeing as I'm satisfied with little, financially speaking. I think the idea you have of doctors is the one anyone would get from watching E.R. I had a couple of normalfag friends who wanted to be doctors as well (they didn't get the grades for it though) whose explanation for choosing that career path was "yeah man, I just want to be around the emergency department, know what I'm saying?".

>>8988169

>I learned relatively fast those fields make for bad-paying jobs

It's depressing that people actually care about this.

Life is so short and so meaningless. Why would you spend your time doing something you don't love? It's a waste of time, no matter how much you get paid.

>>8988184
this is correct, it's 'the journey not the destination' so to speak.

because ultimately the destination is death.

>>8988184
I don't want to be someone who gets paid the bare minimum, You can hardly live like that. I'd rather have a crappy high-paying job than live the rest of my life worrying about the possibility of losing a bad-paying job that I love. Everything is fine and dandy until the money runs out and you have to depend on other people.

>>8988184
True but money creates a form of freedom as well. Tho if you're not dedicated to whatever you're doing, you wont come far no matter the job.

>>8988184
Being stuck in a dead-end way of life that you once loved isn't always good. You might end up losing more time being bogged down by irrelevant things. The other way, if you can become financially free you stand a chance to enjoy your life in your own uncoerced time. Assuming it works out well, of course, which it probably wouldn't.

Was a political science major until I realized that lawyers are douchebags and they get rewarded for it. I guess I could have just become a professor or done patent law in retrospect but I decided to do physics instead.
It interests me and I actually do pretty good at it. I have no idea what I'll do for a career but I'd love to work on a nuclear reactor. Which puts me in a moral dilemma since I think nuclear power plants are unethical, but I do think it's ok when the military does it.

>>8988197
In what way were they douche bags? Being a lawyer and dick has always intrigued me as a career choice.

>>8988200
They just are. The ideal lawyer is both a normal and really intelligent. They have to be able to get favors from a LOT of different people to do good on a case. I'm not good at charisma, douchebags are when they want to.

>>8988190
>>8988192
>>8988196

>Financial security

That's what everyone always seems to say, but the problem is that feeling safe doesn't bring you happiness anymore than the complete security of being a NEET brings happiness. You need something that you're passionate about, something that you really love doing. You'll work away the vast majority of your life in a career that you don't even love just so you can become financially secure and then maybe you can have some hobby in whatever freetime you manage to have.

What kind of life is that? You're going to be spending about 70% of your life working and if you don't love what you're doing then by the time you die you will have spent the vast majority of your life suffering in exchange for a measly 30% (at best) of happiness.

>>8988175
>>8988172
>You don't think doctors work very hard?
That really depends on what kind of position and specialty you have. If you have a private practice or have a specialty like radiology you can have some pretty short and comfortable work hours. At least compared to a "real" hospital MD.

>>8988208

Most adults switch career paths 2-3 times, well at least I know that was the case with my uncle's and my father. I think I will just focus on having enough money to live healthy for myself until I find something I love.

>>8988208
Not financial security, financial freedom. More money gives you more options. Another way of saying it is that less money gives you less options. How can you be sure that you'll be happy doing what you love when your hand is forced constantly because of the lack of money? And how do you know that you won't have time for things you care about while having a job which is mainly motivated by money?

I choose the less uninteresting afternoon time graduation in my college and went for it. You don't stand there thinking about what graduation is perfect for you, you go and do whatever you feel like. If you dislike it later, you can stop and change it. There's no "made for you" graduation, no matter what you choose, you are gonna do just fine in it.

>>8988223

>More money gives you more options

More money may give you more options, but these options are typically unfulfilling and only provide temporary happiness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill

You will adapt to whatever lifestyle you have and you will always return to that baseline happiness. Doesn't matter if you're rich or just scraping by, you won't be any happier either way.

>>8988208
>>8988245
It's simple: avoid lifestyle expansion. What I should've done is aimed for an obscenely well-paying job and lived meagerly as is my natural inclination, so that I could quit after a few years to do what I want. Pursuing dreams. Fagging up /jp/ all day.

Who in here really needs the expensive cars and houses or the college fund for the children you'll never have? The middle class learn to "require" these money sinks, and all you need to do is not learn.

>>8988245
I find that to be a shallow opinion. For some people it's true, no doubt, but I can imagine very easily that for some other people the endless burden of money would make life very unpleasant.

For the record, I think if a person can be NEET without worrying then he probably doesn't have much of an excuse not to be, beyond personal reasons. But that doesn't mean that people who do otherwise are necessarily doing the wrong thing. Besides, doing "what you love" might be what throws you in a hopeless day-job situation just to pay the bills.

>>8988267

>I can imagine very easily that for some other people the endless burden of money would make life very unpleasant.

Eventually you adapt. Look at people who live in horrible third world countries and barely have any food at all. We're talking about the supposed terror of the minor discomfort that comes from living a semi-comfortable paycheck to paycheck lifestyle and these people don't even know if they will have any food tomorrow and yet they're surprisingly happy most of the time, certainly not any less happy than most of us.

Your situation really doesn't matter. Eventually you will adapt to it, that's just how humans work.

>>8988289
I can tell you that there's no way I could live like that. Even if they're "happy", it doesn't mean that they won't be happier the other way.

>>8988289
you can adapt to nihilism you shit eating faggot

>>8988333

>it doesn't mean that they won't be happier the other way.

That's exactly what the whole Hedonistic Treadmill is about though.

They would be happier, but only temporarily. Take some poor African guy, give him millions of dollars, and he will be incredibly happy for a couple years, but he will eventually adapt and living like this will feel normal to him.

His old problems were getting enough food to survive and trying to not die of malaria, but now he has new problems which are no where near as serious and are probably completely trivial, but they still feel just as serious as the old problems.

The point is that you constantly adjust to that baseline. It's why you can't tell someone in this country to stop complaining about their problems because someone else in another country has it much worse, they just won't care and it won't make them feel better. Everyone's problems feel equally important, regardless of the actual objective severity of the problem itself.

truNEET

>>8988366
Your entire point is based of a poor African guy being happy.

>>8988388

It's just a hypothetical example.

Look around you though, it clearly applies to the real world. Why are rich people often just as depressed as everyone else? Shouldn't they be extremely happy because they're rolling in money?

Why are suburban teens crying on their birthdays because they didn't get a car that they wanted when they have an amazing house, a great family, and total safety and security?

None of it will make any permanent change to your happiness. You can't exist in some state of constant bliss, your mind will always adapt and level you back.

>>8988423
Being released from the deprivations of poverty is a plus. Do you even know anyone who is in the situation you described?

>Why are suburban teens crying on their birthdays because they didn't get a car that they wanted when they have an amazing house, a great family, and total safety and security?
Because they are entitled little cunts.

>>8988423
Your argument is completely flawed. It's essentially saying that having things to worry about is always a bad thing, and no matter what you do you will always have things to worry about, therefore nothing changes. So if a man is constantly thinking about finding food, and another is constantly agonizing himself because he doesn't know how to improve himself, nothing changes. If you're fine with that example, then I claim that you don't understand much about humans.

>>8988449

What about the problems that regular middle class people face? Paying the bills, complaining about working hours, affording things that they want, etc.

These people are no where near poverty and they are completely comfortable, but their problems feel just as important to them as the the problems of some person in the ghetto who is living in poverty. The whole point is that your circumstances and quality of life may change, but it eventually levels out and your happiness stays the same as it has always been your whole life.

The whole idea of the pursuit of happiness suffers from the same problem that drug users get from chasing a high. It's just not sustainable, your body constantly adapts and develop tolerance to feeling extremely happy. You can't sustain the bliss that comes from being wealthy and being able to buy a lot of things, just like a drug user either has to accept it or constantly keep doubling his dose.

>>8988461

>It's essentially saying that having things to worry about is always a bad thing, and no matter what you do you will always have things to worry about

This is true though. Your quality of life changes and you're healthier and safer, but mentally you will return to that same baseline level of happiness.

>>8988478
Yet you will be a different person. Which is why I say you don't understand humans. Why would anyone want to live a life where, for example, all you do is scrounge for food without thinking of anything? Sure, you get used to it, but is that really a life? If you think it is, then why do you even need a brain in the first place? If this is going to become a nihlism argument, then all I have to say is that there's no reason for humans to want to live like that.

>>8988500

>Why would anyone want to live a life where, for example, all you do is scrounge for food without thinking of anything?

There's no reason to want to live like that if you are already living a more comfortable life, but if you are forced into the situation then your mind will adapt to it. You will hate it initially, but you won't spiral into some sort of suicidal despair where you constantly think about how meaningless this life of scavenging and hunting for food is in comparison to your old life. Survival will now be the top priority and your new goals in life will be based around that, instead of whatever they used to be based around.

You'll get the same pleasure from these simple achievements as you got from whatever you used to see as meaningful and worthwhile achievements and your new problems will be more life threatening, but they'll feel just as important as your old problems did.

>>8988470
>What about the problems that regular middle class people face? Paying the bills, complaining about working hours, affording things that they want, etc.
There are middle class people who do things besides whine all day about shit that they can't have. Compared to not knowing if you're going to be able to eat tomorrow, wondering why the electric bill is high by a few dollars is a shit-tier worry. And don't give me the "actually it matters the same much" crap because it's just not fucking true.

>The whole point is that your circumstances and quality of life may change, but it eventually levels out and your happiness stays the same as it has always been your whole life.
And my point is that you don't have any basis for this besides "I think it should work this way."

>>8988515
I think you're underestimating people. First, it's quite likely that a lot of people would want to kill themselves. Second, it wouldn't be surprising at all if they never get used to it and instead live their lives out hating everything, assuming they kept living. Furthermore, I don't think it's a matter of "it's the same pleasure anyways", it's more of a matter of "there's pleasure here also", in other words they might find some good in living that way, but it in no way verifies your theory. Anyways it's obvious you're not going to budge on this one so I'll just stop here.

I should have majored in life science, but I don't have the academic chops for it so I did comp sci. Got some work that's several levels better than hauling furniture or whatever, and I may have some much better work rolling in, too.

That said, don't go into it yourself. The "tech" world is so competitive and so casually crooked under the surface it's a little, you know, skull-popping.

If you just want steady work and you really do fit this board's stereotype, go work at the post office or some copy shop.

I tried to figure out something that I could spend the rest of my life doing and not want to kill myself.

Turns out it was "teach English".

Come on, hedonic treadmill anonymous.

We have yet to reach consensus or any form of closure. The above two on-topic posts mean nothing.

I just wanted a lot of money without doing physical effort. So I chose computer engineering.

I took college counseling class thing

Guy said I might make a good account at one time

Decided to do that, because in all likelyhood if I ever stop being lazy I'm going to buy a gun and blow my brains out

I realized that I don't care about worldly success so I'm going to go be a mountain hermit.

Doing IT.
It's ok.

>>8988258
That's my plan.

>>8988534
How did you get the job? I'm having trouble just getting internships. I've applied or a few and no luck so far.

I chose what seemed easy. Very bad idea, I regret everything, but it's way too late now.

I wanted to be a singer but I realized it was a foolish idea. Majoring in physics at the moment because it's easy for me. No idea what to do after this though, well, my dad and my older brother has enough money to keep me entertained and alive so it doesn't really matter. Might as well start a cannabis farming business at my backyard to pass time.

By dropping out.

My retarded 18yo self thought a Chem degree would be the bees knees, but here I am 4 years later, still too lazy and shy to pass any of the lab classes, I've taken other things like history, which I excel at, but the only science classes I've passed are the Math ones. At this point my GPA is far too fucked to switch majors, unless I start fresh at another university. Looking back, I'd have preferred majoring in History, of Computer Science.

I can look forward to living the /jp/ lifestyle.

>>8988110
I wish I was like you sometimes. I don't think anybody on /jp/ needs more than a studio apartment, but very few are okay with the idea of wasting their tiny precious life away on working ANY kind of job.

>>8987420
Oh, wow. Enjoy your life as a poorly paid and overworked code monkey.

>>8988574
By drifting around until I bumped into something that I think I'm good at.

I wish I had just gone into fucking commerce.

>>8988110
>>8989374

Journalism student major

Unless I write as a freelancer 80 hours a week I'll probably live the first half of my life making enough to scrape by

And yet I don't care, because that will literally be enough for me. Enough for rent, food, bills, transportation, and change left over to put into a rainy day fund.

Don't need anything else. If I'm healthy, I'm happy.

>>8989364
*or, not of.

Am I the only one who had already achieved a degree and still ended up as a NEET?

Accounting.

I get to use my autism to its fullest to point out minute errors as an auditor.

>>8988184
This is the first time I've heard someone stick up for people having art majors on any board. I'm going to art school and I know that I probably won't end up being some big shot artist but there is nothing else in life I have the same amount of passion for. I want to go into art education because art classes were the only classes I ever felt confident in during my school years. To be able to provide that to other kids who were like me is the best thing I think I can do.

Programming for ERP systems. I like the job and it earns good cash.

>>8989504
Why do you think that you must do art professionally.
You can have a passion for art while holding a job that can pay your bills, you know.

>>8989448

I did, and now I'm still just a freeter. I have an M.A. in Experimental Psychology and all I do is work in a chemistry lab six hours a week, and then deliver papers from 2 to 5 in the morning every day. The latter job is horrible for my mental health and I haven't taken a day off since I started five months ago, but it at least gives me enough money to pay off school debt and some spending money.

I originally wanted to research autism, but I lost passion for that the first week of grad school. I now want to teach community college but I doubt that is ever going to happen. Sure, I have a decent degree, but I don't think that it is going to get me anywhere.

I might get on disability by the end of the year so if I do at least I'll finally have some security, and be able to live on my own.

>>8987416
When I was watching Iron Man, I became so impressed with the idea of a guy building stuff from scrap metal in a cave that I decided to go into Engineering. True story.

>>8989589
Perhaps he wants to do something that actually makes him happy.

I'm going to teach history, but goddamn I hate kids.

It's a conundrum

I want to be a history major and teach high school because if I live frugally I can have Summers off, which is nice. Also once I have a curriculum really all I have to do is talk and grade which can't be so bad. There's not much I can do with a history degree in the first place.

i didn't, i'm just majoring in something i'm interested in hope that i won't have to slave away the rest of my life doing shit i don't like.

>>8989782

Oh hey, you're just like me. >>8989794

How far are you with your degree?

Social Sciences Education

Because I like teaching, and history is entertaining.

I dropped out after the first week so I wouldn't know. Now I have no idea what to do with my life, if anything.

Computer Science because it's the only thing for people like us.

Most people who do CS are socially anxious weeaboos, everyone who has a laptop out during lectures has a fucking Lucky Star wallpaper and plays Perfect Cherry Blossom. I didn't even know there were others like me in this country before I started university.

>>8989458
Are you socially awkward as well? I feel like I made a huge mistake going into accounting. So far the actual work is easy but group project crap and interaction with other people is hell. I also found out a lot of jobs require a lot of sociability. I'm scared, I don't have the money to switch my major anymore.

>>8989910
My first computer science course (introduction to comp sci with LISP and stuff) was filled a bunch of normals. The closest thing I found were people far more annoying than any weaboo I've seen, loudly laughing at shit like Charlie's unicorn or something and saying shit like "EPIC" all the fucking time or playing the lastest modern popshit like good night or something.

Second class I took (prereq for majoring in comp sci), which was this semester, everybody seemed relatively normal except for big mouth know it all that is already a programmer with a job. Barely anyone speaks to each other in this class which is just fine for me, but not anything like you described which actually is not as great as it seems. It would've be nice to see some interesting people for once even if they were huge weaboos. I'm probably just as boring however.

>>8988515
That doesn't correspond to my personal experience at all. My life was a mess for twenty years.

>>8989939

Sounds shit, I was very surprised personally. The first guy I made friends with broke the ice by telling me about how he migrated his loli site to a server in the Netherlands to avoid UK laws.

Sadly bronies exist in the real world as well. They even wear trenchcoats and hats. There are many normals on my course obviously, but the average fucker doesn't care what people think of him when he stands outside a lecture theater talking about how much he cried at Ano Hana or wich 2hu he'd fq. I have to suppress my powerlevel pretty much entirely though.

Why are there so many college-affording bourgeois on /jp/? Do you guys come to laugh at my misery?

You won't be laughing when the war comes, you fucking barbarians. Get ready

>>8990347
my college is free you dumb autist.

Something in computers. Problem is, my grades are horrible because I'm fucking lazy, and I can't seem to remember half of what I learned in Basic Computers. I know most of it, but damnit, I don't want to be made to look like a fool as soon as I step into anything else. I don't even know what class I should take after that. What is a good course after basic computers? What the hell? I feel trapped. I wanted to be an archeologist, but now I know that I can never achieve that due to poor funding and a lack of courses pertaining to that area in my local college. It will always be a hobby. That and I want to learn Japanese, but I feel like I'd get overwhelmed with all the things i need to study. my GPA is around a 1.4, I'm on academic probation, and I can't seem to get out of this rut I'm in. You guys are nice though.

>>8990347

only because of that I don't feel like trying to do anything. I know its going to happen, and it will be all the globalists fault for ruining my relaxation.

>>8990381
I mean, is there even a course that will help you do nothing but build and repair computers, or should I move on to programming and all of that? I barely know anything about my own major.

>>8990347
That's just the new generation fresh from /a/.

Doesn't matter though, like you said when the fall comes they'll feel it all the same.

person who graduated from art school here. in order to get good money you need a) high skill b) networking and business sense c) preferably both. it's a viable job choice but you have to work hard at it to get the best results. if you float by you're going to be lower level or no industry job at all.

>>8990390
i'm this guy
>>8990317

>or should I move on to programming and all of that?

all the computing courses at my university share the same first year to allow us to choose what to do (working with hardware or programming or maths heavy games programming etc). I'm not sure how it works in America but if you plan on taking programming be very sure it's what you want to do and that you CAN do it. My course doesn't allow people to continue programming after first year if they don't meet certain criteria, a lot of people can put 10x as much effort into it as other people and get 2/30 in programming tests.

>GPA is around a 1.4, I'm on academic probation

I don't know what you mean there, you've been warned that you will be kicked out if you preform poorly? Something I will say to you is that the material is easy as hell to learn if you put a little time into it. Basic computing/computer architecture is just learning hard facts, you can do it if you try.

If you aren't sure about programming I recommend spending a few days learning the basics of Java to see how you like it. Yes Java, it is perfect for grasping the basic concepts + it's what more universities use. Not to mention there are piles of resources online.

>>8987416
Good question, since I'm graduating with a useless major.
I'm looking for entry-level positions near my house, since I wrecked my car a while ago. I'm saving so I can leave this place I live in, so I by cheap.

My plan is to get a nice paying job and then spend as little money as possible and save as much as possible but I don't know how doable that is with taxes that get higher the more money you have.

>>8990501
Do you live in one of those countries with a ridiculous top income tax rate?

>>8990515
I live in the Netherlands, so pretty much. It also taxes your savings as wealth-tax.

>>8987933

>Do you actually have an argument to counter any of the things I said?

Well, since the dude you were arguing with seems to have left, allow me. Not trying to be combative here but for the sake of discussion, here goes.

>The degree is the only useful thing that college can still provide.

Wrong. A college education can not only provide the little piece of paper that tells employers you are able to complete a task, but it offers programs for learning skills needed to perform in nearly every career field.

That is not to say that you can't learn a lot from books. I'm sure if you sat a motivated learner down with the same material at his or her disposal via books or internet research as an average college student being formally educated at a university, they could probably both walk away with a comparable amount of information.

However, hands-on experience is something else entirely. I'll use myself as an example. I'm a writer. I could write all day every day and study all the masters and learn what the books tell you about the craft of writing ad nauseum, but I would have no idea if my shit was any good at all without review by professionals, and to an extent, my peers as well.

You can apply that philosophy to almost every degree. There is something invaluable to be gained from the guidance of someone with the practical knowledge of how the things you are learning can be applied in the real world.

>>8987933

>They have no idea what the fuck they want to do.

You just described almost everyone in their early 20s.

>They aimlessly flop around to different majors, spending huge amounts of money because they went into college as some indecisive retard that had no idea what he actually wanted.

Again, most of us have to do this a bit. The alternative is to complete degrees in fields that we aren't suited for and despair in careers that we hate. Contrary to what you think, there's nothing wrong with floundering a little. It's part of finding yourself. If you think you've found yourself before college, you're deluding yourself... and that's scary because you're probably inhibiting your own ability to grow and develop since you seem to think you have nothing to learn.

>>8987933
>you might as well learn everything you can on your own before you go

Who does this? Even a motivated learner is going to have difficulty sticking to a program that he has created and is leading himself. People procrastinate. People misunderstand information. How would you like to spend four years studying something only to find out you had missed a crucial element early on, and in doing so this has corrupted your understanding of the material.

People aren't perfect. Everyone makes mistakes. If something is important to you, you're going to want to make sure that you are learning something the correct way, unless you're a know-it-all who thinks they can handle assimilating all of this information on their own. Those types of people are usually the chin-stroking types that end up on the dole and spouting Nietzche quotes they don't understand at coffee houses, trying desperately to prove their superior intellect to people who don't know and don't care.

>>8987933

>College is not about sampling every different major and finding out what you like.

Yes, it is. It's not a technical school. Ask any university professional what the percentage rate is for changing majors. Or even ask a college graduate if they knew exactly what the wanted to do before they entered college. I think you may be operating on a disconnected frame of reference because this is common knowledge.

>You do that before you go to college and you only go to college if you absolutely need a degree.

When do you do that? In high school? No, I don't think so. Public schools push the same curriculum down everyone's throat. The scope of exposure is severely limited because the curriculum is developed to accommodate the lowest common denominator, not the bright kids or the achievers or the artists or the musicians or the philosophers.

Honestly, man. You sound very bitter. Maybe a college education wasn't available to you. Maybe it didn't seem important. You might be in the upper echelon of intellectuals that can self-educate like crazy and accumulate practical application spontaneously. If you are, consider yourself exceptional, but don't consider yourself the rule.

Wow you're autistic.

>>8990645
Not that guy but...
While you work your ass off, we'll enjoy our time with the things we love.
I'll never regret my choice for not having a job. I'm damn proud of my life.

I started out as an Electrical Engineer because I liked that kind of stuff in highschool, I didn't like it once it got all theoretical in college. I transferred to Computer Science because I already knew a lot about computers. I'm doing great in that, and I graduate next year. I'm going to have a tough time finding a job though, i've never had one and I doubt many places will hire someone without experience. I'll probably end up working in a warehouse or factory for 5 years before I even find a CS related job.

>>8990672
The key is to start working in career, as an intern or something. Employers love people who work for free.

Now I do not lift a finger or give a single word of advice if they are not paying me a mighty dollar first.

>>8989530
You program erotic roleplay sessions? How do I get a job like that?

I started in electrical engineering as well. I've always liked tinkering and making little shitters, but I realized I don't really want a career in the field. Right now I'm just taking classes for bachelor's in accounting and some Japanese, but I really have no idea what I want to do. I'm thinking I might to try and dual major in mathematics and accounting.

>>8990645
>When do you do that? In high school?

That is when it needs to happen. I'm going to agree with that other guy that people need to have a good idea of what they are doing before going to college. I think it is absurd that you are expected to spend loads of money and commit to a career path before actually knowing what that career will be like. We need to set up internships starting in high school so people don't end up wasting their time and money on something they may not enjoy.

On a somewhat related not, claiming you can learn anything you want from the internet doesn't hold up for sciences.I have not had any luck trying to pirate scientific articles and there are only a few good free journals.

Astrogeology, niggas. I don't even give a fuck.

>>8990733
Isn't that really hard to get a job in? I heard it's nearly impossible because all the veterans hold the jobs.

>>8990723

>That is when it needs to happen. I'm going to agree with that other guy that people need to have a good idea of what they are doing before going to college. I think it is absurd that you are expected to spend loads of money and commit to a career path before actually knowing what that career will be like. We need to set up internships starting in high school so people don't end up wasting their time and money on something they may not enjoy.

'Merica, Fuck yeah!

Yeah but no, seriously, that isn't how it works right now. As someone has mentioned earlier, High School is just a welfare system that caters to retards and dumbasses who don't really care to be in school, let alone graduate. It's a shame considering how piss easy it is.

With the way things are right now, you have to do your soul-searching in college. That's assuming you have the privilege to go to, I can't imagine what it must be like right now to go into society right now. Too many people are competing for the low-level entry jobs; that of which needs nothing more than a HS diploma, and it costs a shit-ton to go to college to get most of the qualifications needed in high-demand jobs.

>>8990740
Veterans also drop dead from time to time.

>>8990763
True but you're not the only one looking for a job. Your best bet would be connections but I assume you don't have those.

>>8990768
Actually me and the professor are pretty tight due to being in band with his kids, plus parents and him are pretty tight too. It could work out. Also did you notice the part where I said I didn't give a fuck? Even so, there's a pretty high chance I'll change my major at some point.

>How did all you college /jp/ers decide what you're going to spend the rest of your life doing?
I haven't really, but my parents want me to go to law school. I'll probably end up doing that, since I don't have any other plans and I can't do anything with a history major.

>>8990814
Well I do give a fuck since astronomy interests me but I'm too much of a pussy to study for it for the reason I mentioned above.

>>8990814
Well I mean I like space and stuff and Astrogeology really popped out at me, partially for its absurdity. I just don't worry about the long-term prospects at this point.

>>8990837
If it interests you just go for it, fulfill my dreams anon.

Wasted time in college, got shit ("average") grades in a science degree. I was just too wiling to let it ride. No real skills, no connections, no money. I'm starting to consider sucking it up and going into a trade school, but I'm sure that's a crap shoot of horrible hours and massive douchebags. It's a little depressing knowing I'll never have a way to just sit on the internet for extended hours again until I'm 70. By that point I'll be so jaded or mentally unstable that it will have no value.

>>8990723
Look into private trackers anon, there are a few science oriented ones out there.

I'm half-assing an Econ major at the moment. Don't have a particular interest in the subject or any other subject for that matter, but it seemed like one of the better choices for a non-science major. Hoping to go to law school or just become a NEET depending on how forceful my parents are after I finish college.

>>8991174
Such as?

>>8991049

>icanhazcheezburger

Is this some elaborate trolling?

>>8991194
Law/Economics requires so much socializing. Ouch.

I didn't, so I went into math. Best choice of my life tbh.

>>8987416
I majored in CS and did absolutely no networking, nor did I make a single friend.

So, I suppose I'll probably be packing meat at night at Wal-Mart or HEB so I can avoid people. I very much doubt I'll get a programming job.

Nursing because you only have to work 3 days a week and you don't have to do anything.

>>8991259
Apart from breaking your back when you have to lift grandma up from her wheelchair so she can take a shit or go to bed

Somehow I'm 4/5 of the way through my medical degree.

Still a friendless loser virgin though.

there are no NEETs left in /jp/
;_;

>>8991347
It's difficult to be one.

>>8991347
A new generations of NEETs will come. Everyone in this thread was probably a NEET for quite a span, but it just isn't a sustainable lifestyle for anyone.

I'm going to teach history, because I absolutely love history. I'm also a halfway decent teacher, and I don't really hate kids, its the parents that are fucking unbearable.

>>8991271
>>8991259
Critical care nursing on a ward that's less than fully staffed is one of the most ludicrously backbreaking jobs around.

I study Psychology, but by this point it's clear that this is not what I will work with. However, I cannot think of anything else in the moment. So I keep my meaningless studies.

Don't remind me of college. It's a terrible thing that sucks young people dry of all their money and dreams. Just thinking about it makes me depressed.

>>8991410
College is very cheap where I live and a third is paid by the government.

>>8987416
Went into accounting because I had a knack for it and my family has finance/accounting background. I was already doing bookkeeping shit in HS. Got into a good program with co-op so getting a job with a big-4 was a cinch. Not sure I wanna stay here for the rest of my life but the work environment is actually pretty decent and the pay isn't bad at all. If you ask me, you should start off with a practical major/job that you don't hate (don't have to love either though), pays decently and has potential for growth.

Currently in my first year as a history undergraduate.

Since it's history I'm not sure I'll ever get a job.

>>8991480
You can become a history teacher, teaching other people something that they'll have to teach to other people.

>>8991489
But I hate kids and I hate talking to people even more.

Computer engineering, because why the Fuck not

>>8991496
Then why the fuck are you in a history major, clearly you're not passionate about the subject, otherwise you'd be happy to teach others about it.

>>8989589
I never really understood this question.
If you choose to go into art professionally, you're just putting art first instead of second because that's what you care about most. It's like asking people in culinary arts "Well you can just cook at home right?",
I don't like making blanket statements since the type of art school/department you're going into can make a huge difference.

>>8991496
That's very unfortunate. I honestly have no idea what you could do with a history degree.

>>8991489
The little bro of a friend of mine is considering going into history. How is the job outlook for history majors? When I think history I just think of scholars (teachers and researchers) and maybe the odd archeologist doing fieldwork. Are there any other typical positions for history majors?

>>8991501
Problem is putting art 'first' doesn't necessarily mean it can adequately feed you or realistically provide you opportunity for growth and advancement. Of course some artists in some fields can make it huge and shit gold bricks but there are quite alot of others that have no choice but to work dead-end McJobs to barely scrape by.

>>8991500
I like the subject, but kids usually don't.

I would want to teach kids if they were actually interested in history, but at high school they're usually only learning because they're forced to by the state.

I guess teaching at college (16-18 in the UK) is an option, but a lot of colleges are really shit and people at that age can be even more annoying than infants.

>>8991520
Then kick (and network) some major ass and find your way into a uni post. Work your way to the point where you'll only teach the upper year classes with people most likely passionate about the subject. That or devote more of your time to research.

>>8991540
I suppose it would be possible. I should probably spend more time thinking about this stuff instead of taking it easy on /jp/.

>>8991520
> I would want to teach kids if they were actually interested in history, but at high school they're usually only learning because they're forced to by the state.

Yeah, if you want to be a history teacher for high school you need to be in it more to teach the kids "life lessons" rather than the actual history class. History isn't all that useful so unless its their passion you aren't going to find many (if any) high schoolers who will give a shit about that class.

If you really do want them to be interested in history, don't give them a shit ton of work though, that will just make them hate history even more. If you can make it a fun class and give them a positive experience they might have a better opinion on history, although it might be more of you as a teacher than what you are teaching. Still though, if you do end up teaching it, try to make it more fun and less work and the students will probably be more receptive. My old high school history teacher was a pretty cool guy and even though nobody really liked history, they paid attention to his classes even though they had fuckall to do with what you were actually tested on, just because he was interesting.

>>8991347
Take note of how much higher the intelligence level is.

>>8990668

Well, sir. I salute you. Don't get me wrong. I don't look down on NEETs. I'm not one of those assholes. Nigga please. Where are we? If I could suck it up on the dole and get autism benefits and shit and take it easy for the rest of my life, I WOULD.

I'll take it a step further. I don't even mind paying taxes into programs that allow you to do so. Although there are tons of crackheads and welfare mamas out there, I like to pretend that MY portion of my taxes will go towards buying figures and bandwidth for my brothers out there in the basements across the world living the dream. I'm not all there upstairs, and I imagine that someday I will have a massive nervous breakdown and have to spend some time collecting government aid and catching up on my backlog.

Until then, I'm doing this for you.

>>8992451
Get on IRC y10nrdy.

>>8992471
my nick is "tree"

pm me !!!!

Due to shit hick upbringing I know nothing about hair care.

I don't know how to get it cut or where to ask or how I can get them to cut it feminine without outright asking "I want feminine hair" in front of people, since I'm too shy... and... what kind of product am I supposed to be using, anyway? I want it long and shiny and soft!

>>8992460
OK.

>>8992477
so does your neck of the woods not have things like hair salons or barbers? for feminine cuts the salon would be better. i've got asian ones all over the place, $10 for a cut.

>>8990347
No offense, but I actually like visiting here to remind myself no matter how bad I mess up, there will always be people I can feel superior to.

I went to a trade school to be an electrician. Worked at a steam mill for about 2 months for $20 an hour. Screw that.
Went to college to get pell grant money for a convention, had to pick a major so went with psychology. took a break from college recently to figger things out. Thinking of going back and majoring in electrical engineering.

>>8992512
Is $20 an hour bad?

I wish I could be like you computer programmer types... I took programming in high school and couldn't even learn FutureBasic... it's what I get for being bad at Math, I suppose.

HA HA TECHNICAL WRITING MAJOR

>>8990347
Financial Aid and Pell Grant, mang. You can do it, too. They give me enough to live on.

>laughing at my misery
No, I'm not, dude. This is why I usually don't post personal shit because I don't want to make other people feel like that. Just so you know, I'm old as HELL and have been a major fucking loser my whole life. So much worse than anything that is routinely discussed here.

Also, things may very well fall through with my little plan. I could eat shit, never publish, not find a job and then just be in super debt because of all the loans I've taken.

If you're a NEET and you've stabilized and you're happy. You're already better off than me.

>>8992525
It depends entirely on the area you live in.

>>8992525
Not particularly, no
I just couldn't really get into the job, I was fresh out of HS. It was a steam mill that provided power for a paper mill. I came home everyday smelling like farts. I sometimes miss the job because the only other workers were a bunch of cool old guys, for the most part. If I could I would take the job back. I work at wamlart now making $8.20.

>>8992555
Yeah that pays enough for a 2 year degree.

Fat chance on anything else

>>8992588
get all the credits you can, get an associates degree. get a decent paying job. Go to a cheap school and get bachelors. Get a better job, go to a slightly better school and get your masters

>>8992588
Nah, man. Pell Grant pays for 120 credit hours. Not to mention you can also take subsidized and unsubsidized loans.

>>8990347
Actually I'm poor as balls and I might have to take out a loan for my final year since I took too long to choose a major. I'm only going because I still have financial aid.

>>8991469
Get me an internship, I beg you, I'm dying over here. I couldn't even a fake a single friend. It's too late for me to get credits in other majors because I can't afford it. I really don't want to work as a tax guy for the rest of my life. I wouldn't mind crunching numbers all day though.

>>8992537
You can get better at Math by simply practicing a little every day.

Im thinking of going into IT engineering.

The software part is in demand while the hardware port can't be exported in india. The exportation of work is what terrifies me as a software dev.

Anyone have any experience with the IT market ? How is it ?

I'd like to go back in education, but I get the feeling I'd regret studying for any job that sounds remotely fun due to the social factor.

>>8989504
>>8989589
artists make mad money.

plenty of full time hentai artists on pixiv

>>8993368
some artists make a lot
some make average
a lot make little

i'm in the average catagory. could be better, could be worse. it does support my /jp/ing.

I'm studying Computer Engineering in a local college that is 15 minutes away from home by walking. I like the subjects and I'm top of my class, actually I got free enrollment because of my grades. It pisses me off a bit sometimes because university is often extremely time consuming if you want to get good grades, but I have no social life and I'm kinda masochist so I don't care.