Amatsuka Uto

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Cute sisters, collab when?

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Begone, you vile leech

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>>32015825
Cousins*

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>>32015825
her days are numbered anon.

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>>32015825
Uto seems like a shitty person behind the scenes, so hopefully never.

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Uto did nothing wrong. Just like a certain Austrian.

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>>32015825
There’s no fucking way she’s still sleeping on this. If she really do nothing then everything she did to build up her base and that really will get fucked and it’ll be almost impossible to recover from.

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>>32016388
At least she got a new pc from all of this.

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>>32015967
>>32016388

>Fuck, what the hell is she even doing and there’s no way she could be just sleeping or some shit.
People generally don't want to deal with drama queens. I have seen the story and it was already resolved in private, but the artist just wanted the drama in public, and the youtubers starving for drama jumped on it like vultures.

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>>32016388
How will she get metaphorically fucked? Cancelled on twitter?

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>>32016384
>>32016388
>not new IPs
The state of this thread.

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>>32016502
So her strategy is to ignore until he gets tired or something?

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>>32016310
More like JP Hero Hei, except he has enough credibility and rabid JP fans to attack. This is even his first video of the new year and he’s pretty much pulling all the shit out like most fucking vultures do.

>>32016502
The fact of the matter is if she does nothing she allow the drama to become even bigger. This is pretty much close to being fucking doxx. It’s not even about ignoring this but she has to do something to at least salvage and shut down certain things. This is pretty much the reason Cover kept shitting the bed cause they always wait to long to take action that could be readily nip before it fucks everything up.

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>>32016619
Better than being raided.

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Who is this and why should I care?

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>>32017215
Kizuna Ai, varchal yutuver

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So to recap what we know about Amatsuka Uto last thread, lots of stuff are still in Japanese previously so EOPs are still not aware of it yet.

Basically it started with
>she did not pay an artist until that said artist pestered her and made it an issue
Then people dig further into her stuff. I will be leaving her multiple past life dramas out since it is irrelevant
>fake indie while being backed by Chinese company
Some said she failed audition in hololive but this can never be confirmed due to how NDA works. Last thread the JOPs pretty much get the fake indie part settled.

>>32015510
Basically just repeated what this thread has been saying, nothing new. Although he also included the initial leeching videos and tags which Uto deleted.

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>>32016550
That’s only if she’s lucky. Since they have all her information she’ll probably never get any work anymore in relation to vtubing or even online in general. She is still in JP and if you’re found to be enough of a burden like with shit like this no one will ever want to work with you ever. No artist, no riggers no nothing. Might as well give up on everything entertainment related and possibly be harassed until you kill yourself. She’s not even big enough to have enough fans to back her up, especially since they’re EOPs who don’t give a shit and won’t give a shit when you’re in trouble.

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>>32017143
>defending samefagging
The state of Uto whiteknight.

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I genuinely hope never.

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>>32015825
Gonna end this "sister" shit, fuck off leech.

https://streamable.com/gx2dyh

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>>32017498
Its okay when you shizos do it, right?

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>>32017411
>性格が悪い
It pretty muchs sums her up. She also got drama in her previous life.

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i want delta uto hololeech collab

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>>32016195
>>32016251
>>32016292
>>32016349
>>32017551
>>32017620
Boom, gottem.

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>>32017622
Whiteknights are essentially schizos. You should take your meds.

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>>32017707
No u

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This ain't cool.

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She deserved it for being a dirty fucking leech.

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>>32017495
If that happens I guess it's time to move overseas like our site owner.

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>>32017411
>believing the Chinese company rrat
Are people that retarded?

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>>32017827
>>32017908
>"keywords":["VTuber","バーチャルメイド","バーチャルYoutuber","ホロライブ","白上フブキ","赤井はあと","ときのそら","ロボ子さん","大神ミオ","夜空メル","大空スバル","夏色まつり","さくらみこ","百鬼あやめ","紫咲シオン","アキ・ローゼンタール","アキロゼ","戌神ころね","猫又おかゆ","がおう","兎田ぺこら","白銀ノエル","不知火フレア","潤羽るしあ","宝鐘マリン","桐生ココ","姫森ルーナ","天音かなた","角巻わため","常闇トワ","Gawr Gura","Mori Calliope","Watson Amelia","Ninomae Ina'nis","Takanashi Kiara","雪花ラミィ","尾丸ポルカ","桃鈴ねね","獅白ぼたん","癒月ちょこ","湊あくあ"]
GOTTA LEEEECH

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>>32017981
Seems so, people keep repeating the same shit even after being proven wrong every thread.

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>>32016672
>>32016852

It is up to Uto and her team. In my opinion, the money has already been paid, so only thing she can do is apologize again. But that will not make the vindictive artist happy, and the youtuber vultures would just doxx her and cover her story again. They are only hungry to take down a person.

All in all, a shitty bunch of online nobodies to become entangled with. This kind of losers brought down other vtubers before.

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>>32015967
And you said that Hero Hei is a bad option. But he would at least describe the whole situation.
Right now we only have one point of view.

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>>32017495
>especially since they’re EOPs who don’t give a shit and won’t give a shit when you’re in trouble.

I'm guessing your the Jap so let me tell you, you clearly underestimate the power of western White Knights and that westerners feed of drama like this to come to defend her.

Did you see Westerners defending Aloe so hard they were about to go on a rampage against cover, had that shit happened not on her debut and people were more invested in her, or if that ever happened to HoloEN, western white knights will blow the fuck out of any JP or CN antis like you've never seen.

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>>32017981
>can't read Japanese
Well I mean all the whiteknights are EOPs/ESLs so they can't get the info right. They even got when the artist was paid wrong until people point it out. Not surprising they missed the part where the Japs found out she fake indie.

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>>32017981
I fucking loathe how you cringey underaged global retards have called narratives "rrat"
We should have gatekept.

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>>32018218
>Using language barrier for misinformation

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>>32018307
Slangs can never be gatekeep.

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>>32018139
She needs to put out a public apology at the very least to show that she care enough to admit her wrong along with the facts that guy have. She in the end is in the right after paying but by allowing him control over her she is getting herself fucked. Even if he won’t accept an apology privately, if she does it publicly she can at least shift it that she is actually in the right in this situation and kill off his drama.
I was afraid this shit was going to happen and at least expected her to do it yesterday before the vultures circled in. Her time limit now is short as hell now and if she don’t seriously settle this she might as well take a long ass hiatus.

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>>32018218
Post the proof then. If it's just her old twitter description that's laughable.

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>>32018173
Kek this fucking brown subhuman wanna lecture the JOP without knowing the situation.
Aloe situation is not comparable. She literally did nothing wrong, did not hurt any person. At the same time the whiteknight influenced jack shit. Even though Cover is pretty incompetent most of the time, it is Cover that stepped up and finally the irl harassment stopped. Good luck trying to defend this fake indie from your third world shithole.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXK6W2-GuH0
https://twitter.com/narukami_sabaki
鳴神が動いたからまた来たよ。
鳴神裁は悲しい犬が台頭するまでは一番強かったゴシップ屋だったのは4chの人達も知ってると思う。
8/14まではVTuber関係者からのリークをもらってスピーカーをする役割があったから地位を保てていたんだけど
とあるソルトが活動休止して以降何故か鳴神へのリークが途絶えて5chとツイッターの炎上まとめ系VTuberになった。
鳴神裁として活動する前は喧嘩凸という口喧嘩配信をやっており、その活動の一環で女性配信者へ下ネタを言い続けるいわゆるセクハラ凸も行っていた。
このセクハラしていたことを突かれるのが痛いようで、その動画が音声付きで上がった際は表での活動を一旦停止し権利者削除の申請に奔走した。
なおメンタルはクソザコそのもので、一番視聴数が取れた動画の収益化が剥がされた時はキレたし配信中はなるべくコメントを見ないようにする等自己防衛を徹底している。

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>>32018218
You can't even use English properly. How do you expect people to take you seriously?

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>>32018407
It literally posted and partially translated in last thread.

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This is why 2 nukes is not enough.

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>>32017981
>rrat
No you are retarded. Now go watch translated clips since it is the only thing you can understand.

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>>32018173
There is a big difference between her and the others you mention. They are in a major company and they are actual well known. The problem with Uto is that she’s still a nobody and she is fucking Japanese. EOPs can’t do shit to help or protect her and even if they do there is not enough cause her base is still mostly Hololive EOPs.
If the only thing she is known for right now is this shit, even the EOPs will eventually turn on her and she’ll never be able to do business again.
You can’t even compare her to those in Holo because she doesn’t have the same power or influence.

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>both the dogs and Naurkami are on this issue now
Leech got what she deserved. She can go and cry in her newly bought lavish apartment though.

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>>32018679
You just know Hero hei and other drama tubers are close behind. This really is going to blow the fuck up to hell.

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seriously, allegations against her aren't even that bad. why do things blow up so hard?

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>>32018435
Christ, what a fucking shitshow

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>>32018549
>>32018479
Yeah sure, keep on believing what some 5ch anti posted without proof.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWzSFwwOWaQ

A new video, with English captions, that did a good job explaining both sides and pointed out they never agreed on the reward, and disapproved of dragging the private matter onto twitter.

>>32018870
I know, right. People who succeed too fast gain a lot of antis.

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>>32018870
Because its not about how bad it is but how much they can stir the shit up for drama. The JPs loves nothing more than ripping shit apart like fucking animals. Giving them even a little bit of a string is like giving them a noose.

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>>32018956
>>32018978
>>32018870
found the whiteknights.

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She may be a leech, but you would still cum inside her asshole, right?

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>>32018956
That guys a nobody. Unfortunately no one is going to listen or see him. He tried his best but there’s nothing he can do.

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>>32019026
Yes, but only after she retires

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Am I the only one who feels like this is being blown up out of porportion?

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>>32018978
Feels like old youtube drama. Feeling nostalgic already.

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>>32019157
Welcome to vtuber drama in a nutshell. The whole coco thing was also stupidly blown out of proportion.

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>>32017411
>involved in drama while collabing with others because your 性格が悪い
>posted information about other vtubers and talked bad about them
>need to jump ship soon because the fake personality is coming apart from all the insider information posted by other people in retaliation
>go for audition, failed because Yagoo can see through your black heart
>OH SHIT WHAT DO WHAT DO
>suddenly, a Chinese company with lots of cash flow came and scouted you
>you accepted, with all the backups from the Chinks' manpower so why not
>hunts around for artists who designed hololive just to get semblance of relation with it
>most artists refused to design for her as she only offered them 1500 yen Amazon gift cards
>Ame's artist did not know about the situation, but for a price
>cried to the chinks, got the money to pay for the design for a tenshi character
>using Chinese tactics, starting to leech from hololive with similar thumbnails, hololive metatags
>she knew people wouldn't suspect a thing if she just delete them later on (this tactic was used in Coco's chat by the Chink wheelbarrow too)
>somehow the past came to bite her in the form on a disgruntled artist
>quickly paid the artist before it became an issue
>the artist ratted her out anyway
>5ch got the hold of situation and started digging things out
Then comes what is happening right now - Narukami on her tail.

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>>32018956
>Those comment
Good thing we didnt break containment

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>>32019157
JP/CN antis frustrated their last few major attempts to win a fight have gone wrong have decided to pick on someone that seems like an easy target, sadly they don't understand while us westerners love our drama we love it as entertainment and no one gives a fuck about the actual facts or situation LUL

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>>32018978
>JPs
It's common around the entire internet. Also I'm not entirely sure what's being said here but, play stupid games get stupid prizes. I don't have sympathy for Uto.

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>>32019351
Agree, I'm just waiting for shit to hit the fan.

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>>32019351
>we

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>>32019309
It wasn't, in a way. I mean the Chinese response was, but everything afterward was awful. Also it wasn't just Coco and we're still feeling the effects of this garbage today. An entire branch was dissolved etc, It was a big deal, and a serious matter, not because the inciting incident was serious, but because the response from crazy bugmen was.

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She got too big too quickly and didn't cover her tracks

This was inevitable

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>>32015825
Uto's english is barely passable and ame's Japanese is even worse then her English.Collab never

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>>32019026
Her anal walls would cling onto you like a leech

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>>32019582
Ame should do her reps regardless. 5 gens of holos to collab with.

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>>32019594
God that is hot

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>>32019667
She should, but she seems like the kind of person who's like HEY ILL PRACTICE MORE then never actually do it

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>>32019522
>An entire branch was dissolved etc
That branch is what created that drama pretty much in the first place. Cover should have kicked them out on the spot. Was there even somebody except for Yogiri that wasn't involved?

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>>32019322
>most artists refused to design for her as she only offered them 1500 yen Amazon gift cards
KEK

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>>32019322
>>32017411
>>she did not pay an artist until that said artist pestered her and made it an issue
>Then people dig further into her stuff. I will be leaving her multiple past life dramas out since it is irrelevant
>>fake indie while being backed by Chinese company
Alright. I can call myself an Uto anti because I genuinely abhor her practices, but if she did pay the artist then it's fine. I also don't care about the Chinese backing--do what you need to do so long as you don't try to indoctrinate your viewers--though if it was by those Chinese that she decided to copy, I dunno. Anyway I'm only miffed by piggybacking off the success of others with no sincere business relationship. It's not far apart from chink knockoffs, coincidentally. I can't support it. If she's truly that cutthroat I wouldn't want to support her anyway.

Here's the thing, if she really is as entertaining as her supporters say, she wouldn't *really* have needed the tactics she employed. Of course, standing out as an indie is nearly impossible, but succeeding with most things in entertainment is difficult man

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>>32019754
I mean you can't literally prove the other talents had any hand in anything, and I've only ever heard rumors. I know Yogiri was totally fine, but the whole thing was a fucking awful dumpster fire with so many fuckin death threats. Coco also might seem tough but she isn't, and Haachama definitely isn't either. Not tough enough to not worry about literally insane Red ultranationalists.

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a retard and a leech collabing? can't wait!

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>>32019785
The thing about Chinese influence is that it is like a plague. It will seep into every aspect of the thing it infiltrated. It is not as simple as "cannot say the T-word".

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>>32019526
Go away thanos.

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>>32018807
I just hope Hero takes the right stance and doesn't just copy Narukami. Does anyone know how to contact him?

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>>32019753
Just like me.
>willneverlearnjapanes.mpv.zip.cue

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>>32019902
Yeah, I'm somewhat aware of how the chink menace threatens. I'm glad Cover cut ties with China, even if they were absolute faggots to begin with. Or kind of faggots. I still don't know how I feel about the suspension and apology. Maybe it made sense in a "Maybe this will calm them down?" logic. It didn't calm them down and it pissed off actual fans. I still can't really wrap my head around that disaster.

Anyway Uto sucks and I smelled something foul as soon as she started popping up in my reccs and I heard her talking about Ame as her sister.

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>>32019864
>you can't literally prove the other talents had any hand in anything
Artia was vocal and proud and the attacks were coordinated from her Discord, no? The others unfollowed Coco and Haachama, Civia had known Coco doxers as mods on YouTube.

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Didn't watch Uto for a couple days
Damn, seems like I missed some major drama

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everyone in this thread should take their meds

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>>32020089
Yeah see that's the thing, I don't know. These are all rumors.

And while unfollowing those two might seem bad it could also be a PR stunt, to save face. I literally don't know, I never got evidence at the time and wasn't too interested in CN anyway

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>>32019322
>>most artists refused to design for her as she only offered them 1500 yen Amazon gift cards

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>>32020117
This thread is the pharmacy.

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>>32019785
> she wouldn't *really* have needed the tactics she employed
The thing is: Ame got her start by years of JP hololivers' efforts; hololive built off Nijisanji's popularity; Sora herself got a boost from Siro during Christmas and by copying Ai Kizuna's design.

Things don't happen in vaccuum. If you want to be noticed, you need to latch onto the popular thing. Like how youtubers make reviews of the most popular games etc. Uto got people to notice her by getting Nabi to draw her and connecting her to hololive fame. That's called playing the game and using the youtube algorithm in youtuber 101, and she got it right.

After that, whether they stay or not, is all due to her talents as an entertainer. And as her fortnite / GOI / apex streams show, she is incredibly talented and determined.

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>>32019322
>what if I just unfollow the artist? I would even save this 1500 Amazon gift card!

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>>32020349
>Uto got people to notice her by getting Nabi to draw her
That is not the only thing she did, whiteknight.

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doesnt blue girl only speak japanese? those types of collabs are garbage. she could barely manage a collab with hachama

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>>32020349
>The thing is: Ame got her start by years of JP hololivers' efforts; hololive built off Nijisanji's popularity; Sora herself got a boost from Siro during Christmas and by copying Ai Kizuna's design.
No this isn't "thing is". I literally mentioned exactly this as a caveat: "business relation". Ame auditioned, among many other candidates, and succeeded. And the JPs are proud of her and every other new gen premier BECAUSE their hard work meant that others succeeded more easily. They're literally building things from the ground up and couldn't be happier. For examples just look at Marine, Subaru, and Fubuki talking about ANY new Holos.

You get what you're given, you don't take what you don't have the rights to

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>>32019322
Post proof

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>>32020349
>you need to latch onto the popular thing
No you don't unless you are a hack like Uto that is. I've seen all the big twitch streamers grew naturally and by their own merits and originality. Uto is equivalent to Athene from twitch.

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>1500 yen amazon gift card
you can't make this shit up, that's so out of touch with how things are.

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>>32020349
Humanity is a leech to planet earth basically.

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>>32020511
>your favourite e-girl got called a leech
>uwwaaaa everyone is a leech in some form!
Pathetic.

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>stuck up passive aggressive bitch with hidden intentions
>absolute EOP bait
>unsustainable growth
knew this was a disaster since the start

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>>32018173
You whiteknight faggots are only gonna make it worse.

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>>32019322
>most artists refused to design for her as she only offered them 1500 yen Amazon gift cards
>somehow the past came to bite her in the form on a disgruntled artist

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>>32020728
Shut up leech.

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>>32020458
be a man and search it yourself, anon

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>>32019902
Last time Nixon simp for China, 50 years later Chinks took the whole America.

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>>32019594
Holy fuck putting her best skill to good use

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>>32020156
>These are all rumors.
I mean yeah, if you break it down, everything is a rumor if it doesn't directly involve you. But Artia couldn't shut up about it for three seconds and she was posting about it using her IRL account that is tied to her chink ID. It was obvious to the point when some chinks were telling her to stop.
>And while unfollowing those two might seem bad it could also be a PR stunt, to save face.
And turn non-Chinese audience against you. Great PR stunt. It was retarded thing to do from perspective of their future and income. If they did absolutely nothing, they could've been safe from both sides.

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>>32021078
Honestly there was no winning. Who would have known the Chinese are scumfucks? The only winning move was not to play in the first place.

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She's a thief. There's nothing else to say, don't try to get her close to Ame

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>>32021131
Exactly this. I wouldn't give someone who is involved with the Chinese a single click after the incident.

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>>32020156
Are you whiteknights still trying to defend Artia after all that happened??

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NEVER TRUST THE LEECH.

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>>32017620
this is the greatest clip of all time

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>>32021206
It's not whiteknighting. If I don't know something I don't know something. I did try to figure shit out but all I got was a lot of hearsay, no evidence, BUT I did see her clownposting on twitter, having a meltdown.

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>>32021206
Yes, her discordfags occasionally pop into hlg to try to rewrite what went down but no one buys it because Artia's done in the west.

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>>32020447
>You get what you're given, you don't take what you don't have the rights to
This complaint would hold merit if Cover actually gave Uto anything. They didn't. And if you think eyeballs belong to Cover, they don't. Rest assured that no one was forced to subscribe to Uto if you think she doesn't deserve it.

It's like the pathetic fanboy that destroyed his PS4, because Genshin Impact cloned Zelda. The more I hear about people complaining about Uto, the more I recall that raging fanboy.

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>>32019322
Jokes aside fucking up an artist and associate with China is really giving me a bad vibes for her.

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>>32021131
Yup, at that point, they would lose either way, but most of them chose the "shoot myself in the head" alternative. My point was, that all of them except for Yogiri were openly against Coco and Haachama and when their plan leaving Hololive with their characters failed, they started harrasing other members as well. And you know what? If Artia didn't have negative IQ, their plan might have worked.

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>>32021147
Maybe morally wrong to some but everything she did aren't against the rule. It about protect a rightful person from a cancer that is cancel culture.

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>>32021375
The irony?

No, that doesn't hold you retard. That's why I said "take". Utilizing tagging is one thing but she also utilized the brand through calling herself Amelia's sister a LOT. It's probably actually illegal, but I'm not sure

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>>32021478
Guess what, this site is all for that shit just like twitter despite it being against the rules.

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>>32021497
She literally said it like 2-3 times or something when asked by chat. She never brought up Ame on her own, not even in her debut when talking about Nabi.

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>>32021497
>utilized the brand through calling herself Amelia's sister a LOT.
See now you are just exposing how new you are to vtube culture. They call their artist mama / papa. Siblings are when an artist creates many avatars. Uto is absolutely Amelia's sister by definition. Moona also collaborates with her non-hololive sister. This is standard everywhere.

If Amelia doesn't like it, then it's like an estranged pair of sibling. But they are still siblings by any definition.

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>>32021626
No, I'm well aware, but using that IP isn't right. You know how Amelia didn't even refer to Uto by name? That's basically what Uto should've done as a legitimate professional. IP is precious, you can't casually fucking say that shit. It's one thing to do that among indies, but this is corporate. It's like saying "Yeah, I'm also a Marvel character!" because you were drawn by a single Marvel artist. Marvel would bury you

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>>32021478
>everything she did aren't against the rule

>Don’t post content on YouTube if it fits any of the descriptions noted below.
>Misleading Metadata or Thumbnails: Using the title, thumbnails, description, or tags to trick users into believing the content is something it is not.
from the Terms of Service

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>>32021497
>It's probably actually illegal
lmao. Fuck outta these threads and this board.
Actually just fuck off out of this universe.

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>>32021626
The poster you're replying in thinking in the corporate sense. Not cultural.

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>>32021759
You don't know about contracts and intellectual property/image use? Well, I mean it's obvious from how you type like a 10 year old.

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>>32021789
This site would shut down years ago based on your logic.

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>>32021789
If Cover were as petty as you suggest, I'd certainly not fucking support them one bit.
Luckily they are not that petty.
Lurk a lot more.

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>>32021789
Please learn a thing or two about japan before posting here, EOP.

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>>32021826
You don't know about safe harbor either, of course.

4chan complies to safe harbor, by the way. They will pull or delete content by request.

>>32021852
Age a few more years. Of course Cover wouldn't litigate a single person, but they have taken action when their content was at risk before. And they'd have the right for IP infringement too.
>>32021879
I literally live here and copyright/IP matters are literally getting worse, to the point that even comiket's been threatened. Get out of your EOP rock.

Holy fuck you're all delusional simps, actual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32021826
>This site would shut down years ago based on your logic.
Literally look down at the most bottom of this page.

[Anonymous No.]

She did EVERYTHING wrong. Here, open up while I spoonfeed you. Your Tenshit is actually a reincarnated cunt who scams artists and openly plagiarizes Hololive.
https://iketog.com/amatukauto_zense/

[Anonymous No.]

>>32021925
Okay bro. Lurk more. I don't even watch Uto. I've seen like 5 clips of her total and half a stream. Never got the hype.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32021626
Ame basically disowned her, and she was prudent to do so, now that Uto is radioactive because of all the drama surrounding her.

[Anonymous No.]

I'd say she airs out her side of the story in the artist fiasco and then promise never to collab with hololive talents again. Her chat mods should delete hololive mentions as if they are Chinese spam. If Ollie or other hololive vtubers come to her stream, the mods should delete the message immediately just not to rile the chat to talk about hololive and come back as her leeching again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32021925
The last time I saw someone saying putting meta tags is a crime it was nijifags harassing Choco, suspicious that the shit stirrers are okay with stuff like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32021978
Oh no! So anyways I'd watch an English only Marine Uto collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32021978
We have all seen it and it was nothing worse than Ame. Remember the Gosling war and sex talk?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32021998
>I don't even watch Uto
Clearly

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022070
shes an honorary holo so its ok

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022081
Yes. See the last sentence.
I have no interest in her. Saw some shit in the main thread about people whining DRAMA DRAMA and decided to hop over and see even more retarded shit here.

[Anonymous No.]

If she were a company, she could be sued for her copying tactics. And since she's a corporation posing as an individual, it's no wonder she's being sued out of her cover.

She's been silent, but it looks like she's secretly deleted some of her videos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022070
I said I don't care about metatags. It's the literal mentioning and associating with rights you don't own that's the problem.

Honestly almost everyone messes with the metatags. To stay in youtube but escape vtubing, Mandaloregaming's recommendation for tagging is "put in anything you assume people would want to watch, that you also watch". Like I assume he puts "game dungeon" in his tags. I think it's forbidden under youtube's guildelines, but it's not a big deal honestly.

The issue is still Image use/association without rights

[Anonymous No.]

>>32021978
Uto's whiteknights are pissing me off, ima write a pastebin and sent it to Herohei just finish her off in the west.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022070
Do you even know who Hoshitkawa is? I hated her but do you know who she is associated with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022013
>Making drastic changes over what some anonymous shizo does online
You guys are overstating your importance. All the shitposting is good fun, but get real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022159
Oh no, she copied the style of some peoples thumbnails, THE HORROR SUE HER SUE HER. (using images neither of them owned, w e w)

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022159
Man you are stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022077
What sex talk?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022220
She said she was directly associated with Amelia. Even if this was brought up by chat, the right thing to do would be ignore it.

>>32022225
You misquoted, or mistyped "you are" as "I am".

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022208
I think you're a retarded newfag. Do YOU now who she is and the antis she's had since her debut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022277
>She said she was directly associated with Amelia.
No, she did not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022277
Where did she say she was associated with Amelia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022298
What does her being a bitch have to do with abusing tags that everyone abuses?
Get an argument, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022325
I heard her say it, I don't really care what your simp ass thinks happened. I'm hearing the videos are gone too (covering her tracks), so whatever. You've already fallen to the whore, who cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022372
I don't care for her. But stop spreading lies, you dumb cunt.
Her doing something that happens industry-wide is not breaking the law, outside of your retard-world that exists entirely in your head.

[Anonymous No.]

If you respect the hololive, ignore the uto

Ame auditioned for hololive and got where she is today. uto did not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022353
I can't find it anymore but have a pretty decent memory. If I recall correctly it was several times in more than one video that she said "Yes that's right, Ame-chan's my sister" I think she might've said she wanted to collab. "Yeah we have the same Mama" etc
I'm not a fan of Amelia, I just found her through the algorithm and was really baffled by what she was saying. Swore off her pretty much immediately. Easy to recognize greed and underhandedness.

>>32022406
>I don't care for her. But stop spreading lies, you dumb cunt.
>Her doing something that happens industry-wide is not breaking the law, outside of your retard-world that exists entirely in your head.
Simp harder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022440
Okay retard. Come back when you have an argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022440
>"Yes that's right, Ame-chan's my sister" I think she might've said she wanted to collab. "Yeah we have the same Mama"
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022505
"But muh culture"? IP is IP, it's not public domain.

>>32022497
I've already said it but I don't really care what a simp thinks dude, but here's a clip at least https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5eazgIC2lU
I'm too nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022440
I need you to explain how another vtuber having the same illustrator as you means you are associated with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022625
It wouldn't if you didn't mention that you were directly related several times. I see this is officially "going around in circles" mode though so, enjoy your bitch as she burns to the ground

[Anonymous No.]

>literally a Chinese knock off
Can't make this shit up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022580
It's not illegal to mention things. Even if you are another corporation.
Learn some basic IP laws please.
The only time it is illegal is if you are making direct comparisons or shitting on a competitor for profit, which is why TV and later internet ads were almost globally banned from doing it. (see Sega does what Nintendon't, etc.)
Come back with a valid argument, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022713
>The only time it is illegal is if you are making direct comparisons
She *did* you fucking numbskull.

[Anonymous No.]

Shoddy Chinese knockoffs

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022755
Yeah I'm sure she was going "Oh yeah Ame does this, but did you know I can do THIS!".
Fucking retard kek

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not really seeing anything substantial that she did something bad? This feels a bit like the witchhunt that drove Aloe out of Hololive "she said some bad stuff about people in the industry".

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022805
Yes, and it will happen again because cancel culture is cancer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022805
it seems whiteknights are literally blind. Or they just don't bother scrolling up

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022884
Come back with an argument bro.
Not "lol she said she was Amelias sister, dat's illegal you know!", an actual argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022805
She violated confidentiality, there was a contractual problem. But she didn't slander others, she didn't steal, not like uto.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022805
>still trying to compare her to Aloe
They are not comparable. Aloe only talked bad about niji in 1 stream, while Uto has her drama even before the redesign, this artist thing is just a new addition of evidence of how shitty she is as a person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022884
>Listen and believe
Lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022951
Shitty person does not matter. Anime girl is anime girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022664
You do know that vtubers calling other vtubers with the same artist their siblings is a common thing right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022948
>She violated confidentiality, there was a contractual problem.
Hahaha. Always funny to see people that cannot understand anything outside of clips and [EN] in chat trying to grasp what has actually happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023002
He does not. He's that new.

[Anonymous No.]

Now, Uto was accused of non-payment of fees by more than just the illustrator. It seems he was a habitual offender

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023010
The important thing is that Aloe hasn't hurt anyone, Brother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022884
I don't watch her, I just saw people slamming her in the Holo thread and came to see what it was. Looks like a lot of conjecture and a payment dispute that got resolved. Maybe she is shady but I was expecting something more substantial.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023062
Show proof. Gotta kill the rrats, man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023002
>>32023026
I mentioned it you braindead faggots. Never try to start a business, you'll crash and burn

[Anonymous No.]

I just wanted to watch my vtubers man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023100
People are just shitposting becauss no stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023105
Can you give me an example then of a vtuber getting into trouble because of something their "sibling" did

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023002
No anon the avatars are propietery and should be classified as such.

[Anonymous No.]

Congrats, you want her to get attention, and she got it. I hope she gets featured in Hero Hei next

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023002
Not him but you are trying to justify the relation multiple times. It is not just about sisters. People who has 2 braincells know what's up when she asked Nabi to redesign her, posted that picture of her with Ame, using thumbnails similar to the holos, play similar games, using similar routine and using the metatags. The worst is that she did all of it and pretended it never happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023105
"directly related" is not a thing that happened though, that is a blatant lie.
She said she was Amelias sister, same mama. Almost literally word for word.
That's not even close to direct, unless you have brain problems.
The level of retarded you are going in to is like something casually mentioning how they love McDonalds for a few minutes in a stream, a thing that is not even remotely illegal.
>>32023176
Lurk more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023124
Watch archive. Or other vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023002
Only if they want to. You don't see Subaru and touya interacting with each other at all despite Subaru being a known Niji collaber

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023193
That's scummy, and it happens all the time across the industry, even outside of vtubers. Still not illegal. Not in any country, not even America.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023219
Still doesn't stop either of them mentioning each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32019322
>>32023190
>she paid the artist with Amazon gift card
>the artist paid her with exposure
Oh how the table has turned. Maybe this is just her ploy of getting more subs since she is getting stale and her subs plateau. However she has no idea that people actually dig up her connection with Chinese company that actually hurt her.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't know about you guys but this cute tenshi is irresistible for me. I've fallen for her and I'm even considering travelling to Japan for a while after covid just to be closer to her.

[Anonymous No.]

It's possible that UTO has already been sued by the cover?

People who support women who harm the hololive are anti-hololive. Do you understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022943
>her past persona created a whole lot of bad-blood and drama for her group, which had her somewhat bullied by the leader, and to which she responded by throwing shit at the fan by badmouthing everybody and doxxing them
>had her image so burned that had to make a new identity, while trying to delete all her old videos
>rumor that she tried to audition for hololive but failed
>rumor that a chinese company is backing her after that fail. Or from another country. Or she's just loaded with cash. She sure has a lot of "friends" and "sisters" managing her stuff
>abuse of the holos metatags. And i dont mean just the name hololive or amelia, I mean the names of every jp and en talents one every single one of her videos. Was called out and silently deleted those only after she was sure the algorithim had made its magic.
>keeps saying she's amelia's sister, trying to get connection with other holoes by mentioning them and visitting their chats. Dumb ids already fell for it.
>keeps asking artists to make her copies of holos thumbnails
>commisioned work from an artist at the promise of pay, ghosted him after the deliver. Only paid because she got afraid of repercusion, while still talking shit to him in private. And apparently it was 1500yen=15$
there's probably more I'm missing, go read the past threads if you want more

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023324
5ch anon post more about her chink connections.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32022298
>Do YOU now who she is and the antis she's had since her debut?
Elaborate? I know about Makoto drama and stamps, but that seems very unsubstantial.

[Anonymous No.]

What does Uto's piss taste like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023280
https://youtu.be/5P80lou5GKQ

Oozora family doesn't involve her "brother", how odd

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023337
Still none of that is illegal. Yes, even the lack f payment, unless a direct contract was involved which would be contract breaking and a legal matter.
Very scummy, however, absolutely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023433
>>>32022943
oh I think nobody here is saying that it is illegal, except for that one schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023404
That has nothing to do with it.
The issue is legality of mentioning others without their permission. It is 100% legal to do so. Even in a commercial context, unless you are outright shitting on a product or service they have, or making comparisons that favour yours.
Unless you get a restraining order, which is very hard to do unless outright harassment is occurring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023433
>unless a direct contract was involved
That's not how the law works. Any verbal agreement is a contract.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023324
But I am anti hololive. They are immune to all forms of critisism as they shut down anti channels and they remove competition that uses the same method they used to gain reputation.

[Anonymous No.]

5ch isn't really interested in Uto. There are 30 vtubers in Japan on hololive alone, imagine if EN had 5 times as many as they do now

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023404
Sorry Im not sure what youre trying to say. Why should they have to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023502
B-but the 5ch raids

[Anonymous No.]

>>32015825
When she gits gud
she's getting there

[Anonymous No.]

>>32019322
Am I the first one to sense the yabee from her just from the tweet with her image side by side with Ame's?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023337
Is this another 4ch narrative or is this legit. Seeing how she got featured in NRKM today I believe the latter

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023483
Not all countries agree to this. And trying to prove non-written agreements is exceedingly fucking difficult, even if it has Tweets or Discord or whatever else involved. (one major reason courthouses exist in the first place is issues like this)
Japan is one that does, but it is even harder proving such intent in Japan than many countries. Foul play often does win in Japan, if you know much of their horrific legal processes.

[Anonymous No.]

About uto, if you can speak Japanese, you will know that she is calling the illustrator a beggar. Those negative aspects are not visible in the English-speaking world. The language barrier is a big one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023625
Watch the video

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023707
Why do you think that the only people defending her here are EOPs who didn't even know when the artist get paid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023707
Thing is, they could well be too. We simply don't know. Scummy artists have been an issue in this industry before, as well as modellers. (see that cunt Digi)

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023707
>>32023822
He is a beggar. I see nothing wrong with this.

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking hate most of you for making this a bigger issue than it should be.

[Anonymous No.]

please feed us more spicy narratives uto antis, this is too good. apparently she's the worst criminal of japan now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023289
this is some insane cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023937
She should be for leeching off mai perfecto waifu amelia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023921
The artist incident is not a big issue. You missed that people dig up a lot of dirt including her past life drama?

[Anonymous No.]

To whom it may concern
Been looking for ideas to design Arimasen, since I'm almost done with Aoi

For starters idk whether to draw an ikemen or just Uto posing as one, also, what items would you add to the character (lewd ones for later, this one is for design only anons)
By the time I'm done I expect most shit happening rn to be done and I don't care about 1500 yen btw, 10Q

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023979
The only thing I absolutely understood during her past life was that U was a fucking asshole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024040
I always picture Arimasen-san with a ponytail. Tsurime eyes. And for some reason, with a tuxedo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023937

We now march for the dark gods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023486
Schizo its been mentioned before, Choco was the only one who used niji tags and she was forced to make a public apology by the nijniggers.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Have you ever busted a nut to Tenshi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024040
I'd say her posing as one makes more sense since it's a split personality. But if you already designed Aoi as a loli I guess you should go with an actual ikemen. Also, based.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024147
Yes, and i want a refund.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023696
The issue is that we are talking about $15 in gift cards, it wouldn't help if it was written at all. But the contract stands and the party that didn't pay broke it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024147
Yes, better than tone deaf lesbian.

[Anonymous No.]

>comission a piece of art
>start getting popular and getting a lot of free art
>the duck why do I pay for art when I get free art now
>better unfollow and ghost the dude and pretend to be dumb I'm not paying for this lol
>whaaaat you are leaking this noooooo here's your money you beggar!

I'm just joking by the way I like Uto

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024147
Yes, and I know feel dirty after finding out I jacked it to a sociopath.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024040
I always imagined Arimasen as blue-haired Finn, from Danmachi. Saying "boku", and being hyper-competent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024200
But she DID pay though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024200
But proving it in court requires proving that Uto even took it seriously, which she clearly did not if she intended to pay in fucking Amazon gift cards.
She'd win by default on that sheer absurdity alone.
Yes, this is how Japan works. This is not a new thing, Japan is terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024186
>>32024237
Surely her personality doesn't matter unless part of the appeal to you was fapping to a pure innocent angel.

[Anonymous No.]

>refused to pay an artist and ghost him
>artist get public with it after getting paid (pestering her) because fuck her
>people started digging shits up about her past life drama and her relationship with Chinese company
Should've pay it once the art arrived.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024147
every day, to dispel any doubts about my tenshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024335
Where was this about the chinese company? I'm not seeing any of that info on 5ch or anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32016388
Your mistake is thinking her EOP audience cares or even understands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024147
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024278
Based tenshi had no intention of ever paying the guy to begin with and knew she would get popular with lots of supporters. All according to plan, and I still like her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024375
Sure thing EOP. It is like no one can read the Japs in last thread amirite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023219
>>32023404
She has a Niji brother?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024375
Some schizo larping as a JOP who used deepl to post some bogus shit about her past life being under a chink company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024261
Yes, two months late after trying to cut the communication?
>>32024278
Great, so she would win in a court, but would still look like a massive asshole for refusing to pay pennies. If I'm really conservative and say she makes $200 a day, why wouldn't she just throw one days of work worth of income and make right any other thing she might or might not have commissioned in the past?

[Anonymous No.]

holy shit what a shitfest

[Anonymous No.]

Shitposting aside ghosting someone you comissioned art from and then acting like they are bothering you when they try to get their money is kinda bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023219
Touya isn't her brother retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024453
God knows. It's all a big mess. I had a minimal interest in her to begin with, so it is no big loss if she is a turbocunt to people behind closed doors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024040
UUUOOOHHHH I MUST SIMP

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024469
I do it all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

She will continue to get subscribers and more views, and all you'll be able to do is complain here while doing nothing because you can't speak japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024453
With no agreed upon deadline?
She still paid, no debts left. Done.
Plus, most of the allegations are based on his testimony ALONE.
That kind of shit wouldn't pass in court. It's like solely basing your evidence on one side while ignoring the other. Biased as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023219
You mean Kenmochi? You made me look it up because I was pretty damn sure his art didn't look like Shigure Ui's, and I was right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024517
Or she gefs doxxed and people stalk her irl and she gets "persuaded" to stop streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024517
That is a strong projection, EOP. Why don't you watch Narukami's take on it? It even has JP subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024568
He probably see femTouya art by Ui and thought they're related because of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024389
> no intention of ever paying the guy
This would be hilarious if true. But more like she had a thousand more simps to deal with. More like she forgot the dude existed, and that can be aggravating to a narcissist. Now he is just enjoying the exposure from the drama because of a late payment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024587
Not gonna happen. She is shameless enough to keep on streaming even if people found out that she eat a baby or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024596
Shut up narukami, stop shilling your video

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024637
>More like she forgot the dude existed
he claims he kept constantly reminding her though, and getting ghosted

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024695
Can you imagine how filled her inbox is the moment her popularity exploded?
And mind you, he "claimed" that is the case. The truth could possibly be something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024563
Who fucking cares about court you retard. She literally drew a fucking target on her face because ignored somebody she commissioned and decided to pay them after they brought it up publicly. However shitty or not true it is from artists side, she would either not pay at all if all of this is made up, or paid like a normal person instead of unfollowing them on Twitter and pretending to not hear anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024640
Maybe the yakuza gets involved. I dunno.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023433
>>32023696
>>32024278
>it's ok to lie and mislead people if it's legal
The state of utoshills.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine going to a court over commisioned anime art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024829
It is okay to lie. Moral is subjective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024829
There is a schizo saying it is illegal. Scroll up and read, babyface.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024829
I'm not defending her though. She's a cunt if she did do it.
I'm attacking the horrific state of Japanese law more than anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024829
Vtubers lie all the time you moron.
Why the fuck are you losing your shit on this particular one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024779
You're assuming that what he says is the truth, the only truth, and nothing but the truth. All it takes is for the other party to show their evidence, and boom! The entire thing takes an entirely different turn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024443
He literally just copy paste thing word for word from 5ch last thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023822
あなたが日本語を理解する人でよかった。つまりutoは料金未払いでイラストレーターをブロックした上、彼の要求に対して「金が欲しいならくれてやる」と失礼な発言をするような女だという事です。これは動かす事の出来ない事実です

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025087
>All it takes is for the other party to show their evidence, and boom! The entire thing takes an entirely different turn.
just shows how insecure utofags are about her

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025147
My reps paid off

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025087
The only evidence she showed us is that she called him a beggar and unfollowed him. Now there is no doubt that Uto isn't lying! It's not like she threw tantrums and lied in the past or anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025181
Pretty much anyone with an oshi would.
Amplified the fact that she's an indie. She's literally alone on this (unless you still believe on the chink company bull).

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025254
She literally had a team bejind her and they are part of a Chinese company

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025147
I am contacting all US senators and mainstream news outlets to alert them of this travesty. I am absolutely outraged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025242
And who's to say that the no-name artist is noy lying as well? Or muddying the actual truth? Anyone who uses the "for the sake of my fellow artists" is untrustworthy by default.

[Anonymous No.]

Utoshills literally have no moral compass. I guess it's true that the viewers reflect the streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

As for slander and non-payment of fees, it is more a matter of courtesy than a legal issue. All these acts of hers are true and the evidence is available in the Japanese speaking world. Her position is pretty bad right now.

As for imitation, I don't know what would happen if COVER sued legally. Japan is a country with strangely strict rights regarding streaming. I'm assuming her silently deleting the video has something to do with this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025320
I mean if this >>32024890 is anything to go by, you are right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025320
>implying anyone who browses this cesspit of a site has any moral compass

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025302
面白いですね。5chであなたのジョークを広めたいです。LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025318
If you don't address their allegations at all and just call them names and pay them, I'm to believe that whatever they said is true.

[Anonymous No.]

>still on that artist spins
We are already on her past life drama before she ran away and the redesign with Chinese company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025320
Welcome. Tea or coffee?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32017620
>i dont want anything to do with her
yikes bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025320
>Moral
>Current year

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025474
>何とか[です]何とか[です]何とか[です]
Truly a JOP

[Anonymous No.]

>>32015825
never
ame hates collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>32018978
Who are you quoting

[Anonymous No.]

>>32019026
well, hate fuck is a thing, so yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025690
She wouldnt say the same after collabing with my huge D

[Anonymous No.]

>>32019322
Anyone has the full story of the drama? I can't read Jap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025320
Nah, the antis have had 12 hours to convince us there is something to be outraged by. And the evidence we have seen paints an incident which is tame compared to that of Aloe or Coco, or other vtuber scandals (nijisanji etc.). We are veteran enough by now with antis' tactics.

>>32025745
This one has English captions. It is more neutral than the other ones which are accusatory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWzSFwwOWaQ

[Anonymous No.]

Have the nip schizos shitting up the thread finally gone to sleep?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025805
Its midnight in 2 nukes land.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025792
I am not talking about the artist shit which has been talked to death here. I am talking about the drama and doxxing during her past life, where some pictures were posted with irl photo but stories are mostly in JP which I can't understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32015825
Never. She's too suspicious

[Anonymous No.]

angel baby

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025792
>we

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025949
>>/jp/thread/S31820757#p31911245

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025792
>And the evidence we have seen paints an incident which is tame compared to that of Aloe or Coco
except aloe and coco did nothing wrong, this girl did multiple things wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026012
Wuz

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026109
KAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNGZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[Anonymous No.]

Do we know what actually happened with her and her old team? I know about her supposedly hiring an editor for her video when the team didn't provide her one. And how there are rumors she doxed her team in retaliation but then you have people saying her team doxed her instead. Most of the info surrounding that incident seems to be in Japanese youtube videos and as an EOP that is not illuminating at all. I just want to know. Is she secretly a jerk? Is she actually a good person who doesn't deserve all the hate she's getting? Should I be cheering for her success despite all the hardships? Or is she somewhere in between?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026048
That is like your opinion bro I respect that opinion but it's an opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025792
>obsolete art
kek
>basically throwed a fuss AFTER getting paid, on a "reward" that he didn't even specify
What an asshole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026260
because she called him a beggar after paying him. no shit he's going to retaliate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026190
You've just basically summed up every JPVtuber drama ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026048
>aloe
>nothing wrong
rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026341
if you think she did anything wrong you're unironically a terrible person

[Anonymous No.]

Aloe did much worse than Uto. That's a fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026386
The delta circlejerk and delusion thread is over that way.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a Japanese speaker, so I have a pretty good grasp of her background.

People on 5ch don't understand much about her when she was a V called Aizawa. The group she belonged to, the "Bourbon Clan", is a rather low-rated group of delinquents, so to speak. One of the two members who were expelled from the group for causing problems was Aizawa=uto.

What the group leader saw as a problem was that she had hired an editor without the organization's permission. Personal dealings are a hotbed of trouble (as is this case), and this decision was the right one. However, Aizawa=uto assumed that she was disliked. He thought that his colleague and the leader, with whom he did not get along, were in on it, and he slandered them. And she disclosed her age, which her colleagues had kept secret.

So there are many people who resent her. But not on 5ch. The "bourbon clan" is mainly people who are active on twitter, and twitter also exposed that uto=aizawa had sex with multiple guys, LOL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026301
But the core of his complaint is that she's late on paying for the commission (which she eventually paid.) Anything else is secondary.
It REALLY doesn't help that he posted it on social median, when these type of things should have been discussed privately in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026406
>>32026436
what did she do wrong, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026386
Triangle wouldn't have existed in the first place if she did nothing wrong at all, fool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026519
what did she do that was wrong morally

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026465
secondary doesn't mean "it doesn't exist." how she chose to deal with the primary issue compounds on to it. is this so hard to understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026447
>and twitter also exposed that uto=aizawa had sex with multiple guys, LOL.

Get a life, seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026447
How old is she then?

[Anonymous No.]

I want to know something more important than this drama. Does she have any lewds yet? I want to masturbate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026447
>uto=aizawa had sex with multiple guys
With me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026674
Grand total of 1.

[Anonymous No.]

Support our Chinese queen Amatsuka Uto !!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026651
She's 20 years old. The Bourbon Clan is where the leader of the Yakuza-like group collects young girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32025805
it is holiday following by Sunday, holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>32017411
What is this fucking bullshit that the western fans don't know about it or that they mistook her for a holo? We are not fucking retards bugmen like the sliteyes over there, we know very well who she is and how the events go down. That's why I still support her, while the braindead chinks don't even know she already paid. Fuck this shit. More nukes please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026465
Not the person you're responding to but you're being a bit biased though.
If she could have just paid him and apologize for it being late, none of this would have happened. But nope, she acted unprofessionally and called her fan a beggar. So petty. Lose-lose situation for the both of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026519
All Aloe did was sexpost and tell the truth about Niji / Chitose. Not like that matters to you delusional fuck. Uto's not gonna be defended from all the accusations no matter how hard you try to conflate the two, she has too many skeletons in her closet for most eop's and seaniggers to ignore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026877
Easy there, tiger.
Pretty sure anyone who has minimal understanding with the English language can mistake overseas fans as mistaking her as a holo due to all the "Ame's sister", "Blue Ame", "should have been in Hololive" comments circulating around here, twitter and YT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026969
>If she could have just paid him and apologize for it being late,
She did.
And let me remind you the artist was a fan who made her fanart for free because he liked her so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026674
Gimme 1500 yen gift cards and I will make them

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026447
And why should we care? The same rrats have been repeated here ad nauseum since Uto started gaining traction. JOP’s are just a bunch of sensitive cucks who are blowing this nothingburger out of proportion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027020
I'm not conflating the two though.
All I'm saying is, if one didn't do anything wrong, then none of the drama would have happened,
It happened to Aloe, and currently, one is happening to Uto. So they both did something wrong, and that is undeniable. HOW wrong they are, well, it really depends on who you speak to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027020
>All Aloe did
Already an invalid opinion. Sorry anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026877
>chink
They are not her antis. In fact they support her in the form of company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026877
>What is this fucking bullshit that the western fans don't know about it or that they mistook her for a holo?
Hana didn't market herself as a Holo but even her viewers mistook her for one of them. Please, stop trolling bro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQkzaM50YzY

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026877
From the Japanese point of view, Uto is a boring imitation product. It just looks like a stupid foreigner being fooled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026969
I know they're both at fault, anon.
It's just that, spreading this to social media when this was originally discussed behind closed doors is honestly an asshole move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027046
>someone who says she should be in hololive must think that she's already in hololive
What is this gook logic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027080
Why do you always conveniently left off the 'calling him a beggar part' though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027213
Some meanings are lost during translation all the time, anon. That's just how it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027216
Why do you always conveniently left out that she already paid and apologized before the incident even went public and that he made it public solely out of spite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027160
帰れ

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027113
Even JOP, which supports Aloe, has abandoned Uto. Well I just wanted to get the facts straight and end the bullshit. Don't bother with the Japanese holo-lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027216
>artfag begs to get paid
>Uto rightfully calls him a beggar
Unironically based

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027263
日本語でありがとう。This is a point of fact, not a statement that the Japanese perspective is correct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026041
What a shit show. Getting behind someone's back seems to be her forte. Also she is no stranger to exposing private conversation. Now I feel less bad about the artist revealing their conversation. She really can't work well with other people, no wonder she failed her audition.

[Anonymous No.]

DON'T CARE
STILL SUBSCRIBED
MEMBERED
SUPERCHATTED
UTO LOVE

[Anonymous No.]

it was commissioned art, utofags

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027239
>tfw you have no idea what is being paid and when was it paid until people pointed it out to you few thread ago
Not able to understand Japanese sure is suffering huh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027216
Taking a butthurt man word for word when he's obviously making her look bad ain't exactly my cup of tea. ESPECIALLY when she fulfilled her end of the bargain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027312
Prove it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026877
>we
I am starting to see the pattern here, whiteknight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027324
Which she paid in the end, anti.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027273
かしこまりました

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026877
>liking a lying bitch of a Chinese knock off
ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027330
Doing Anki everyday and still shit at moonrunes here

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027299
When will you braindead seaniggers realize that because of the time of events she could only possible audition to holoEN? Which doesn't make any sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027389
She is doing it behind their back. Again, that is her forte.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027419
>she auditioned to hololive without cover knowing about it
That is some Nenechi level of smart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027330
>rumao the EOP’s can’t understand Japanese
>let me communicate with them using guguru sensei
>oh no! how come the gaijin don’t hate UTO like we do????!!!!! what went wrong?????
Do JOP anti’s really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027372
two months later after realizing her ghosting wouldn't work anymore, since she got too big

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe the 4chan Bros don't know that Aloe is being praised on 5ch?　Opinions in Japan are not monolithic. It's funny how they treat you like you're a bad friend who came to take away their favorite toy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027336
I agree that the artist is up to no good but who cares? He's a nobody.
Uto is different though. She should have taken the higher stand in this situation. Although it's unfair, but that's the standard that is expected of a popular public figure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027484
It was still them who cancelled her.

[Anonymous No.]

There is no evidence that Uto failed the Hololive audition, but I doubt she would have made it. Cover has never hired anyone from the "Bourbon Clan. They're a bunch of real whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027456
Which she PAID in the end, which the artist proceeded to make it public AFTER the payment, in which he didn't even specify what kind of payment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027484
>>32027507
The duality of man, basically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027447
She is auditioning behind her teammates' back you doofus. She doesn't even care about the group and just hire editor for herself alone. Selfish dishonest bitch who sold herself to China.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027484
fuck the nips then

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027536
The audition for gen 5 happened in 2019. She was still 17, in highschool, way before vabon at that time. What do you think she applied to, gen 6?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027507
>all of 5ch are nijiniggers
nop

>>32027536
I mean it is pretty much certain that Uto has a messy sex live from all the doxx and counterdoxx.

[Anonymous No.]

It's funny how all these "drama" bullshit can be explain with just a single word: miscommunication.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027570
I'd tell you to take your meds but I doubt they would help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027506
But the transaction happened before her reincarnation. She was a nobody as well back then. It only blew up because the artist conveniently tried to bug her with it when her popularity exploded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027537
>Which she PAID
And implied that he's a beggar afterwards.
You left out a distinction there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027578
>She was still 17
It was 18?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027506
She hasn't shown her side of the story yet and is getting dogpiled on. Basically cancel culture at work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027537
Oh no, she fucked up and got called out for it. What a tragedy

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027600
>having sex is a messy sex life
Japanese otaku fears the sex. When confronted with someone who managed to have sex in their lives they can only mutter "muh tiny dick".

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027507
It may be correct to say that there were two sides to the story. The situation with Aloe is quite complicated; even cover has not revealed the reason for Aloe's dismissal

Aloe committed suicide by jumping off a building after she was fired from Hololive. It seems that she was mentally unstable to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027628
True or not, to which he proceeded to make a private convo public. Pure scum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027627
True. But that's the price of fame. It's not a problem until it becomes one. She became too successful too fast. It's not fair but that's how it goes in reality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027630
Depending on when the audition actually was. She has her birthday in October.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027570
Joker would be proud of you schizofag

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027679
>Aloe committed suicide by jumping off a building
Where did you hear this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027679
>after she was fired
I would give you a tired Fubuki image but I forgot where I put it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027686
Whether he's a scum or not doesn't matter. Nobody care's about him.
We only focus on Uto here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027686
>proceeded to make a private convo public. Pure scum
Just like a certain someone named Aizawa, kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027732
don't worry, she's ok now

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027732
From the person himself. Rest assured, she's back alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027784
glad to hear anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027679
>Aloe committed suicide by jumping off a building after she was fired from Hololive. It seems that she was mentally unstable to begin with.
I wonder why I even bother with this thread sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027808
The Utoshills tried to drag Aloe into this conversation to muddy the water but can't even get the story right.

[Anonymous No.]

stop dragging aloe into this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027796
Am I being trolled or are you serious? How did this news appear out of nowhere?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027679
you need help anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027646
We could blame the system all we want, but it is what it is. If she really has a company behind her then they better work fast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027899
dumb frogposter

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027771
Aizawa didn't do that though? She publicly apologized after she was fired from the group because she wanted to do her job better.

[Anonymous No.]

If you want to know more about Aloe, you can see her diary from back in the day through her roommate's paid membership

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027807
She had to get a horn reconstruction surgery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027771
Are we honestly just gonna ignore the fact that all of it was Urara's fault, while Aizawa and Naeji were actually victims?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028032
I don't think Aloefags in the Uto thread can read much of it anyway but thanks for the sauce.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027943
very sad to see you like this anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028144
But also Niggerji was outed by her moderator that she was an abusive cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028144
If he/she is not famous then yes, we can conveniently forget about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028144
>>32028003
More like Urara can't get them an editor, Aizawa got one behind all of them's back. Get called out, quit and apologize with a dox attached to it. Naeji was fucking mad about it and dissed her. Aizawa got mad in return and getting it out in the sun with all the line/discord shit, saying she did not get admin permission for some stuff. Urara threatened to reveal Aizawa's boyfriend (which he never did) if she keeps doing that and then finally everything stopped.
In short, a fucking shit show. Good luck to the Chinese company working with her.

[Anonymous No.]

It's true that uto tricked urara into hiring an editor, and it's also true that he slandered his colleagues, so I can't fully defend uto on the "bourbon class" one

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028391
> It's true
Proofs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028321
Conveniently leaving out that the team had an editor but the guy didn't want to give one to Ai because "it's too difficult", also she doxxed herself only, but it was known that her age is the same as N's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32026041
>a serious fallout from a small disagreement
The yab-vibe is strong in this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028461
She doxxed herself just to get to the team. The team has an editor but no one has a personal editor. She is asking too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028506
>She doxxed herself just to get to the team
Proof?
>The team has an editor but no one has a personal editor
Hence why she got one, then Urara went apeshit just because of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028506
>the team has an editor but only she can't access it, the others can
>she need it to do her job in the team
Flawless logic, Urashit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028631
Aizawa also said she got lock out of permission and privilege in the line and discord group. She made it sound like everyone was bullying her. Don't just take her side of story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028506
>team editor
>leaves her out among the three
>still blames Ai
SUGOI!

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028658
>Naeji's mod got fired for confirming she was a cunt
Ogey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028595
>>32028631
>>32028737
>believe in her lies

[Anonymous No.]

Have anti's already run out of ammo? Are we really just timelooping back to old rrats that no one gives a fuck about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028595
It sucks to be in her situation definitely but hey, they already had an understanding and she went against it. If she thought the team couldn't provide what she wanted, why not just leave? Instead she went apeshit too. So petty and unprofessional on so many levels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028757
I am not saying she is a good person. I said before and again that it is a shitshow. Everyone involved in this are scums.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028796
>believing in someone else's lies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028797
>run out of ammo
>no one gives a fuck
That's what someone would say when they have no rebuttal left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028802
I'd like to say that she was a minor (Along with N), but I'm sure that argument wont pass here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028797
It's funny reading the thread from top to bottom and how ridiculous all of this is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028887
And the idea to leech was from the Chinese company staff. She is just a pure seiso tenshi who did nothing wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027686
>He used scummy tactics to show how scummy she is, therefore her acting like scum should be ignored
What you are saying pretty much

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028870
What's there to rebut, retard? JOP's are malding over nothingburger rrats we've known about for months, which is nothing new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028887
Oh no, I also agree with your sentiment but that's not how it works in reality. When you get big, your past also comes back to bite you. And that's why you need a good PR team especially in entertainment industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028981
>we

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029033
Never gets old right? He thinks everyone is a whiteknight like him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028968
No one here is denying that she neglected her payment.
But publicizing it? On social media? For a slight (according to him) in private? Now that's a scummy move.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029033
>>32029073
Let me rephrase it for you then, ESLchamas. These rrats have been around for months and have led to nothing. Now go fuck off and do your English reps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028321
>Good luck to the Chinese company working with her.
This is bullshit, uto has never acknowledged china which will make the bugmens glass hearts break

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that the majority of the thread are nijifags just trying to shit on anything tangentially related to hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029154
No more scummy than calling somebody you owe money to a "beggar".

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029190
Feels like both honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029184
Of course she wouldn't want her fake indie facade exposed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029156
>narratives
They are real though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029190
>nijifags
Now that is a new boogieman, right after
1. ESL
2. JOP
3. SEAniggers
4. Hololive fans
5. 5ch antis coming here to post
All of these are just hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029243
She's already mentioned Taiwan a few times. But sure, keep going with your CCP narrative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029275
dont mind the utoshills, they'll follow uto to the grave if they have to

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029314
>SEA
I find this hard to believe since her biggest fanbase is from SEA. Even her chat mods and translators are SEA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32019322
>even Narukami thinks she is a cheapskate
That is the most hilarious thing. Runner up is the Chinese knockoff rrat is actually real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029190
This is bullshit since Nijis couldn't care less about Uto while Holos keep insisting with the "leech" moniker. Not to mention that 5ch is basically Holo central.

[Anonymous No.]

So we still watching or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029378
Those are just boogieman the shill made up. You can see from a few threads back there is one poster who is defending her nonstop is very likely someone from SEA. Of course I didn't point it out because it is irrelevant to the conversation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029243
Bruh, she said taiwan multiple times including visiting taiwan and never once said anything about China. You have no evidence of this boogeyman chinese company. This narrative is stale as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029392
>5ch is basically Holo central
Next thing you will say is that Uto was hated by the Japs because the Japs mainly watch hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029371
The fact that there are retards following Artia proves that some people will try really hard to ignore everything around that person and follow them to death, so I don't doubt there would be people following even if she committed war crimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029493
Well not exactly. Only a few select people who actually bother.
Kinda like these thread actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029506
I love my part-time African warlord Amatsuka Uto!

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029506
>Artia
Eh? I thought Artiaposting is done ironically.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029317
>>32029463
>thinking Chink actually cared about Taiwan
A lot of the vtubers mentioned Taiwan before Haato and Coco. They only attacked Coco because bilibili wanted to expel hololive from China. You are way too behind.
Also the context of mentioning Taiwan is important but I guess you don't know where is bugmen's G spot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029586
I don't mean here, I mean braindead people hovering around her on Discord servers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029548
Ok, now that I know you are not joking, I am quite confident that you never went to at least have a peak at 5ch before. Niji is big there and there are holo antis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029596
The only way for us to confirm that she is not under Chinese influence is for her to say that Taiwan is a country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027879
You're being trolled. Her reincarnation literally has a thread on this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029314
>new

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029712
Just do a SC and maybe she's actually say it

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029678
Alright man.
But which one's the more vocal group among the two?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029454
Im watching her sleeping on my bed after a 4 hour sex marathon, yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029746
Which one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32028658
>Aizawa also said she got lock out of permission and privilege in the line and discord group
Urara countered those points by saying that no one used the Line group and that's why he never bothered to invite her to it, and the Discord thing was equally trivial.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029837
The answer is in this very thread, put in some effort yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029383
>watching Narukami
Damn, I thought I am the only one who can understand Japanese here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029810
Jesus christ bro her roommate aint even a 5

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029898
Whatever. A tiny bug is not that important for me to waste my effort anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029962
ok, bug.

[Anonymous No.]

What in the world is this thread? Why are there 2 of them when I sort by reply count? Why is there so much broken English in this thread? It feels like 90% of the thread is google translated into English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32030015
>It feels like 90% of the thread is google translated into English.
Because it is, anon. The 5ch faggots and ESL seaniggers are out in full force with their incomprehensible gibberish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32030015
>pretending that you just arrive
What gives, young man? Dun you rike my English? Even so there is no need to put up an act for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029932
She is decently cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32029712
She technically did by saying Taiwan multiple times. The Chinese don't officially recognize the name Taiwan. I think the fact that she said wanted to visit Taiwan with no mention of China as places to visit pretty much would piss any Chinese off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32030378
>basically
>I think
Basically I think you are a faggot who can suck my cock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32030378
even Genshit Impact allows you to say Taiwan and the like in the non-chinese versions of the game. They always tone down their censorship to not look as bad to the western audiences.
I'm not saying the rumor is true, but what you said doesn't really disprove it either.

[Anonymous No.]

So what's this new narrative about her ghosting a musician now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32030630
>narrative
It is real. Check the last thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32030711
>>32030630
>musician
Let me guess, meds?

[Anonymous No.]

Man, the thread broke through all the boundaries of retardation in just a couple of days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32030630
Guessing that the musician who helping her with the MV previewed in membership stream. Seems odd when gone incommunicado to contact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32030550
Taiwan as a territory is okay with bugmen, which makes the whole issue with Haachama and Coco just an excuse. They didn't say "independent Taiwan" or "Republic of China", they said Taiwan, which can mean either territory or independent nation. Ever wondered why Coco got far worse treatment than Haachama? Surely not because bugmen don't like Americans...

[Anonymous No.]

just woke up
did anything new happen? or did this place get raided again

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031151
>did this place get raided again
This.
A crowd of trolls and shizos of all sorts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031262
>crowd
Like one or two bugs. Even her video has <500 dislikes, this is the power of the bugmen incels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031151
Nope, nothing new. It’s just the same faggots from the other day raiding again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031448
After Narukami's vid I thought there'd be more dislikes but it really isn't much

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031571
Did he say anything substantial?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32031571
The dislike to like ratio on her Apex video is currently 809:12k, which is pretty much the same size as the average length of a jap’s micropenis

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>>32031618
His video paints Uto in a negative slant, without discussing the flaws of the artist. He then pivoted to other stuff in her career, like her chibi art and holo meta tags. We all know that stuff by now, but I imagine he can radicalize quite a few new people into antis.

Then again, Narukami is the same guy that nearly drove another vtuber girl to suicide (nijisanji ahem). One does not expect anything less.

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>>32031876
Time to mass report his videos, so he can take his time to resolve it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032059
he literally prides himself as the most hated vtuber, if mass reporting his videos could do anything i imagine it would have already happened. only a court threat could keep him in check.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32023337
>her past persona created a whole lot of bad-blood and drama for her group, which had her somewhat bullied by the leader, and to which she responded by throwing shit at the fan by badmouthing everybody and doxxing them
misrepresentation of what really happened, might as well post it again
>had her image so burned that had to make a new identity, while trying to delete all her old videos
two other colleagues left the group a month after her, her sister and the quiet guy named Kurara who also followed her on twitter
she did fine as Aizawa was intended to just be a gaming channel before HoloEN came
>rumor that she tried to audition for hololive but failed
>rumor that a chinese company is backing her after that fail. Or from another country. Or she's just loaded with cash. She sure has a lot of "friends" and "sisters" managing her stuff
the dumbest 5ch schizo cope I've seen, literally zilch proof
>abuse of the holos metatags. And i dont mean just the name hololive or amelia, I mean the names of every jp and en talents one every single one of her videos. Was called out and silently deleted those only after she was sure the algorithim had made its magic.
It was discovered here first but yes
>keeps saying she's amelia's sister, trying to get connection with other holoes by mentioning them and visitting their chats. Dumb ids already fell for it.
More 5ch schizo cope
>keeps asking artists to make her copies of holos thumbnails
her fans made the walfie and the haachama picture early on; she either used her own image or whatever fanart was available
that's what you get when this much of your fanbase consists of SEA holo fans
>commisioned work from an artist at the promise of pay, ghosted him after the deliver. Only paid because she got afraid of repercusion, while still talking shit to him in private. And apparently it was 1500yen=15$
and we're now here
to note, she asked how much he wanted and he himself wanted the 1500 yen gift card

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032124
>the 1500 yen gift card
All this over a $15 gift card, fucking kek

[Anonymous No.]

updated some things

https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q11225673446

>How it all started
N and A(to be Uto) weren't getting along too well.
U (the leader): "Please get along!"

>One day
A: "U-san, can I have an editor?
U: "No! It's hard to get an editor!
A: "I understand..."

>A gets an editor on her own without telling U
U: Why did you lie to me! We don't need liars! I don't want liars! (for various reasons, but this is the main one)

>A withdraws from the group
She releases an apology statement that states her own age.
Since N and A are the same age, U is furious that N's age was "revealed" too.
He fights with A on Twitter.

>Several days later
Some whistleblower reveals that N made some bad comments.

In the meantime, A put out her list of complaints towards the group including
- 21:00 to 24:00 hours for participation increasingly becoming a pain.
- She wasn't included into their LINE group.
- She did not receive the editing software other members promised to hand over to her.
- She did not receive all of the roles needed on the group's discord.
- She wanted to manage YT analytics for her own account.

U brushes off the complaints, saying "he was busy" for half of them.
He then continued to fight A on Twitter.

>U's comment that caused himself to be attacked
U: We kept our ages hidden all this time without regret. There is no excuse for what you did.
U: At this point, I don't care if I happen to reveal your boyfriend A-san. I can get angry too.
This is like blackmail isn't it? From that, a flame war commenced between A, U and N.

A moderator revealed more abusive language and other things from N.
In response, N immediately terminated his contract.
U: While it's good he wasn't lying, I shouldn't have relied on him to begin with.

>This answerer's own thoughts
I really don't think the last part is a joke. If you look at the comment section on Twitter, you can see how I feel.
I'm sorry if I've left out or misunderstood some things.
It's just that, I don't know if there's any need to beat up on A any more. I think U and N were at fault too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032229
And we knew all of this ages ago, but still the slant eyed bugmen dare to come up and say that "baka gaijins don't know about her". Many many nukes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032124
>her fans made the walfie and the haachama picture early on; she either used her own image or whatever fanart was available
>that's what you get when this much of your fanbase consists of SEA holo fans
Is this normal or widely accepted? Does this happen with other talents like Holos or Nijis cause I'm pretty they have overlapping fans too.

[Anonymous No.]

there's nothing really new at this point, each of these have already been discussed endlessly. just wait for her response.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032124
Let me add that the "artist" made fanart for her for free, then she offered to pay for one that she wanted to use but didn't, and also when she paid for it she also apologized to him, but that faggot still made it public and kept complaining because he feels entitled to her pussy or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032485
Still no action in defense of Uto. While these assholes continue to spread their one-sided version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032352
The main problem is that the autistic holofags from 5ch believe that Uto is literally a criminal who’s ruining hololive’s image by using similar art made by fans. It’s a gray area since Cover doesn’t necessarily own Hololive fanart. The thing bugmen fail to understand is that “Hololive” is synonymous with “Vtuber” in overseas communities. It’s definitely not strange for fans to make edits of Hololive art with vtubers who aren’t actually a part of Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032602
Oh yeah and the video thumbnails. Aside from the haachama edit, which doesn't legally belong to Haachama or cover anyway, she had the Outlast thumbnail. Now go and look what Outlast video thumbnails are on yt. Most of them are literally a green image with a scared avatar. Like dozens of them. Then there's the walfie edit, and the only one who can raise a complaint about that is walfie. Everyone else should shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032602
they absolutely do understand because they switched tactics in the last few days. not paying for a commissioned piece of art is an issue that sets of red flags in the western artist culture, and that's why as soon as an artist did speak up about it the ant-posting grew much more severe.

[Anonymous No.]

if her condition was that she'd pay upon actually using the commission, then the artist is completely in the wrong here if he agreed

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032706
It's all true.
>Then there's the walfie edit
It's not even her edit. It was made by a random holoen fan and he put a tag for her:
https://twitter.com/AzorDino/status/1340437978360000517

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032750
Yes but she eventually paid, didn’t she? I haven’t been seeing much outrage if at all from EOP’s. The few reactions that I’ve seen are pretty neutral and acknowledge that both sides made mistakes. JOP’s on the other hand seem to be getting their panties in a twist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033018
Because JOPs aren't fucking blind whiteknights. EOPs would defend her even if she'd kill someone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032561
>and also when she paid for it she also apologized to him
Is there any proof to this? As far as I know, he said she called him a beggar, now people are saying that she apologized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033018
Jap incels are mad that she chose the BWC instead of their 2" microdick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033098
read the source
https://twitter.com/kuroh728/status/1347792558773030912
https://twitter.com/kuroh728/status/1347547972892987392/photo/4

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033075
unironically this, even worse are the SEA

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033018
All the JOPs come from 5ch so it's understandable

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032602
>It’s a gray area since Cover doesn’t necessarily own Hololive fanart.
I'm not really concerned about the legality side of things cause I think that's not really an issue. What I'm curious about is whether or not this practice of using art/images that is considered 'signature art style' of other vtubers is considered normal cause they've like tons of unwritten rules right.
Like I can remember Kiara getting flaked on for 'copying' Pekora's laugh. Or that Meiro/Roa case and we all know what happened to that.
The only instance I know where a certain art style is widely used by all is that King song but that's a music cover though and it's pretty much a meme at this point.
Cause if it's normal, I don't see why 5ch antis would sperg about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033075
>>32033210
I'd defend her with my life if she killed both of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033099
I know an indie that made a debut vid in English. But she's Japanese. The ratio....but no negative comments and gets all kinds of support from Japs so I guess it doesn't matter. Faggots gonna faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are half the sources being posted here dodgy english translations? Post the original japanese source.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033260
And she still wouldn't fuck with you.

[Anonymous No.]

This is all whoreson's fault. If only whoreson would have recognized uto has her sister then none of this would have happened. Whatever, if uto goes down, so does whoreson.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033298
Im not expecting that she would. Unlike the """""''''''''''''''''''''''’''''''''''''''''''''artist'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033133
Thanks, is the beggar part in the last image? Can't read that well yet.

[Anonymous No.]

She really didn't do anything that wrong

-misused meta tags
Everyone does that

-Delayed and ghosted an artist but eventually paid him
Cunt move but not a crime

She's probably a secret asshole but you people doomposting over 300 dislikes in one video are too dumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033294
Someone just posted it retard.
>>32033133
But you can't read it anyway, it seems you can't even comprehend fucking english in the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033075
Sure, but at least EOP’s aren’t delusional fragile cucks who can only watch the most morally virtuous virgin chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033357
Yeah sure lmao
You're the most pathetic person I've ever seen on /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033380
You still make it sound like it was an actual professional high profile artist and she went to him to commission an image.
What actually happened: he drew fanart about her for free because he liked her. Then she offered to pay for an image that she was supposed to use, so that's why (she didn't use it). The guy, being an amateur, asked for an 1500 yen gift card. And he got paid. She made a mistake, but he shouldn't even made the incident public.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033394
Yeah, EOPs are much worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033394
You're right they're worse, people like you

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033479
>he shouldn't even made the incident public
Why though? I don't know about how they do it in China but in other countries, leaving feedbacks and reviews for services rendered is quite common. In fact we even have websites that do just that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033479
>oh shit this girl is giving me attention
>suddenly start ghosting him
>ok here's your money stop bothering me

He's totally pathetic but it really isn't about the money so he made it public so people shit on her

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033479
What if she did this with other artists too, they just didn't made it public? Or you're so delusional that you think that still wouldn't be a problem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033380
>but you people doomposting over 300 dislikes
More like doomposting over two infosluts who can kill her reputation just for hype.

[Anonymous No.]

>nooo you shouldn't make it public if someone literally stealing from you

[Anonymous No.]

I saw Amatsuka Uto at a grocery store in Tokyo yesterday. I told her how cool it was to meet her in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother her and ask her for photos or anything.
She said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but she kept cutting me off and going “GG MEN? GG MEN? GG MEN?” and closing her hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard her chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw her trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Walfie edits in her hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Madam, you need to pay for those first.” At first she kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the images and started scanning it multiple times, she stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any erectrical infettelence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, she kept interrupting her by LMAO'ing really loudly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033481
>>32033515
あんな自己嫌悪を感じってまずいわ

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033604
Westerners are less retarded than nips they aren't just gonna believe whatever retarded narrative dramawhores spew, you can see them calling out the dude on his twitter, as far as her western fanbase is concerned she is safe

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033693
Nice deepl translation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033603
Artists who do it for free, because they are not making a living out of it, and then trying to destroy her career over 1500 yen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033724
because you deepl'd it yourself LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033731
She is a fuvking pathetic disgusting leech and a thief. Pull out your head from reddit and maybe you'll see that not every women are cute pure angels who deserves to be defended this hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033794
Ogey

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033731
>be artist groomer
>this cute indie is giving me attention
>one day she starts ignoring you
>"I'm gonna fuck this bitch over"

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032561
>>32033098
>but that faggot still made it public and kept complaining because he feels entitled to her pussy or something
That's not illegal though. He's just expressing his concern to his fellow artists.
But calling someone a beggar is definitely not cool though. That's so unprofessional and may even land someone in serious trouble.

[Anonymous No.]

She is the greatest vtuber to ever grace the internet and there's nothing that will change that.
She is
>smart
>funny
>intelligent
>genius
>humorous
>talented
>skilled
>sings beautifully
>great commentator
>nice
Antis be gone

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033794
there is zero discussion on reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033555
Because your are still keep missing the point that he was not a professional artist and she didn't go to him to commission an image in a regular business sense.
He made fanart for her for free. Then she said she would pay for one image that she could use in a video. He didn't know what to take for it so he settled for an 1500¥ gift card. Now he's on a mission to destroy her career.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033850
You can't even understand her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033897
I perfectly understood when she said t-shart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033839
Good thing she didn't do that then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033897
That’s the best part

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033872
Which is pretty bad, I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033897
That just means I can pretend she's saying anything, and what I pretend she's saying is really funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033880
Wait. I thought the whole issue was not about the compensation but rather on what she told him afterwards. Somebody said she heavily implied that he was being a beggar about it and he threw a fit. Not sure cause I can't read moon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033702
>Westerners are less retarded than nips they aren't just gonna believe whatever retarded narrative dramawhores spew
well said. They're gonna believe whatever retarded narrative their tenshi spews instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034047
During their conversation she apologized, then at the end she switched from a friendly style to a more polite manner. Apparently this ticked off the schizo artist because how dare she not want to jump on his cock suddenly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033850
Yep, I couldn't agree more

[Anonymous No.]

>>32033897
elumao gg men poguchamp

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034079
I personally think our cute tenshi having a darker side extremely hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034139
You mean the whole beggar thing was a lie? Fuck. I love Uto now. She doesn't deserve this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034139
That かしこまりました tho, comedy gold by my shitty standards

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034047
I looked at the messages and the beggar stuff sounds like projection coming from him.
Glad he has that much self-awareness though

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034194
I just wanna be inside her

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034139
really? that’s what the nips are mad about? god how pathetic can they get

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034268
It's a way you could interpret it, like, someone could say she was trying to calm the waters and it'd make sense, japanese is a weird thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034305
>>32034288
>>32034268
Yes, the way she talked sounded to him like she was downtalking him, like begging for that 1500¥. That's why he's pissed because she distanced herself from him. Why should she be best buddies with him I don't know.

[Anonymous No.]

You people have to be fucking joking.
How likely is it that a Chinese company is backing someone who has said Taiwan at least twice?

[Anonymous No.]

Uto is cute fuck you guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035026
funny cause I thought she'd get in trouble with the bugs with the level of HK and Taiwan simping she's gotten
notice how her top clips channels are actually traditional chinese

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035026
same reason why they didn't care about Haachama either. Uto and her are not american.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't mind Uto but whenever I watch clips of her, she's copying hololive girls' mannerisms and sayings. She really does feel disingenuous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035411
If you're talking about impressions, that's her fanbase wanting it and she also happens to be a fan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035411
I mean, if you watch hololive it makes sense those clips would get in your feed

[Anonymous No.]

artist twitter is dead for almost two days now

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035411
It's pretty obvious those moments are gonna get clipped, not like she's doing it all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035620
I hope the artist is dead, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035785
>>32035620
>Uto is missing because she went to assassinate the artist and bury his corpse on the side of Fuji

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035785
maybe he is, who knows

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035620
That’s because Uto, being the ruthless ex-convict that she is, went to his house and choked him in his sleep

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035860
Actually hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035620
schizos comments aside, no doubt he is getting harassed for having the audacity of calling out uto.

[Anonymous No.]

Nana drew this on the spot knowing how worried everyone is

>>32035973
he'd just protect his twitter account in that case

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035973
Lmao, this guy called out corporates and bigger indies than her before, what the hell are Uto shills gonna do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036050
Where did she post this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036156
name one that got as much heat as this

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036050
I was looking forward to their collab...

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036050
Nana-mama is so based

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036156
Tell the truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32036156
think you're confusing the artist for narukami

[Anonymous No.]

>>32037710
Yeah I'm retarded, sorry

[Anonymous No.]

Rrats raid is expected to start in a couple of hours. Get ready to keep the gate.
And still no word from Uto.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32041767
you sound like those chunibyo chinktards

[Anonymous No.]

>>32041767
I’m sure they’ll get bored eventually. There aren’t any new rrats to talk about and it’s too hard for them to communicate with their genuinely poor English skills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32032602
Not because of legality issue. You can still be an asshole without violating any laws.

[Anonymous No.]

Good day to everyone! Have this. Uto love.
Yes, this is the only Uto gif I have. If you have some others, share them pls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32034079
>Uto watcher
>Westerners
It is a bunch of Southeast Asians if you look at the chat and comment, also the people defending here right in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32042947
ogey resident shitposter, don't resent your heritage that much

[Anonymous No.]

>>32042947
>SEA people use VPNs from all over the world to superchat as americans, europeans, russians, etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>32041767
Yeah make your own thread guys. Getting tired of fanning the flames when nothing happens even after 5 threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>32043042
Who said anything about superchat? But yeah you are right, they indeed need VPN if they want to give her superchat. Thanks for proving my point in another way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32043107
>Uses vpn to give supachat
>Have to give extra to give significant amount because shit currency unless you're singapore
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>32043263
Singaporeans also need to give extra due to how currency conversion works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32042947
the correct term is seanigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32043033
The only idiots who care about proper english are SEA since their the ones learning it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32043570
Go to sleep waito piggu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32043657
Eat a dog, insect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32043586
I do because it makes me feel better about myself as a mutt

[Anonymous No.]

>>32043686
Change your gender fluid, burger

[Anonymous No.]

So is she bad or not? Is it real or is it not? This is a question i will ask till the end of time. Seriously tho what is even happening anymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32043778
Just think for yourself bro.

[Anonymous No.]

Not sure what the guy's problem is. I would literally pay for Tenshi to call me a pathetic beggar. I'm actually kind of envious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32043778
Who cares bro she's fucking cute

[Anonymous No.]

watch ame instead. thank you

[Anonymous No.]

>>32043953
I'm kinda new to this whole vtuber thing so it's kinda confusing with everybody swearing and going nuts over this topic so it would've been nice if it was explained without the commotion

[Anonymous No.]

>>32027273
Not the Hololive leeching that takes her down but an artfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32035620
And that's a good thing
.

[Anonymous No.]

>the artist post an image but its in japanese can someone translate that shit for me?
>https://twitter.com/kuroh728/status/1348441513190019073

[Anonymous No.]

>>32044092
Why does it matter whether she’s “bad” or “good” in a moral or ethical sense? Vtubers are playing a character and providing entertainment. Whatever they’re like in real life is irrelevant to their jobs. You’re a legit a retarded schizo if you think vtubers are supposed to represent the moral pillars of society.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32044092
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're actually not trolling.
>Amatsuka Uto commissioned the same person who made Amelia Watson from Hololive
>This in the business "basically" makes them sisters
This is where "Blue Ame" comes from
>Hololive is an established vtubers company that is very hot right now
>Uto put a bunch of hololive tags into her streams
>Despite having no actual connection to Hololive
>This tricks Youtube into directly hololive fans towards her
>She also mentioned Ame many times on stream to try to reinforce theres a connection
And this is where the "leech" part comes in. Up until now we have concrete evidence all this happened.

More recently theres a larger conspiracy where she worked with the Chinese in an attempt to take down Hololive, but betrayed them and went solo. I dropped out of caring just before this started, so I dunno anything about how real it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32044509
I've seen a lot of replies and videos.
I would like to thank you all for your comments. I have a lot of faults in this case.
I did not prepare a contract, and I failed to do the basic
I am deeply sorry that I did not prepare a contract and neglected the basics of paid work.
I deeply regret that I did not prepare a contract, and I would like to make use of it in the future.
The price of the illustrations was not as high as other companies.

I would like to make use of this experience in the future.
I will try to present the price of the illustration after careful consideration so that other artists will not be inconvenienced.
I'm sorry about that. I apologize for the inconvenience.
I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32044629
artfag BTFO

[Anonymous No.]

will all of this make her join JAV gang to pay off her debt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32044740
got raid by art community for sure. They hate undercharge and dramafag like him.

[Anonymous No.]

feels like this whole shit has been blown out of proportion, does nips really like to stir up some gay ass drama all the time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32044803
based if true

[Anonymous No.]

>>32044803
I fucking love artists now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32044803
based artfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>32044808
yes? schizos here are laughable compared to their schizos

[Anonymous No.]

>>32044755
She already made more money than everything she needed for vtubing possibly could cost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32044755
if she can afford a new pc with a rtx 3090 she can surely pay off her debt

[Anonymous No.]

>>32044803
Artist here.
Attentionwhores like him give us a bad rep. Glad he got taken cared of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32043778
>fallout with ex-colleague due to small issue
>ghost an artist after promising to pay him
Not enough track record to determine yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32043778
Use your fucking brain man.

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>>32045144
Lots of people posted on twitter regarding cheapskate who don't pay artist though, and I've seen other artist supporting them exposing the DMs.

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>>32045343
From the previous life we can see that she has no bottom line and no shame.

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>>32045467
The guy didn't prepare a contract and never stated what secific "rewards" he's getting. The burden's all on him.

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>>32045504
from her previous life I can see how determined and based she is

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>>32045144
Good job, man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32045504
>no bottom line
>no shame
But those are the reasons why I love her

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>>32044629
He strikes me as a man with strong principles. This is how they should have handled this matter in the first place. Ghosting or alluding someone as a beggar doesn't sound right to me.

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>>32045533
>>32045721
>>32045725
>self congratulary whiteknights
What a sight.

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>>32046090
starting a vendetta against her doesn't sound right too, but I hope they make up soon

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like absolute shit. Maybe even worse that I can't even put into words.

I've always made fun of people with cult mentality, looking down on people who could so easily manipulated by "charisma" or whatever the fuck it is that people will herd themselves like cattles over someone and I've always kept in mind that I'll never be like that but then suddenly for this to happen. I've always thought myself to be smart or know better, that I can see through and never be involved with such simple shit but this...this is just fucking...I just can;t believe how much of a fucking retard I am for falling for all this so easily. And not just that, I might have even played an active role in helping such a horrible person and it just feels terrible especially because I don't think I can ever do anything to erase the role I've played yet at the same time I don't think I want to either.

To tell the truth, I've discovered Hololive only very recently and enjoyed it a lot because it brought me a sort of hope. Even if what some people might say about the girls being fake corporate actors or whatever there was still a sense that when I watched them they did feel genuine in what they do and how they spoke as if they really cared for each other. Maybe it's all a lie too. Maybe I'm being stupid again in believing such rosy-colored delusion but it really did bring out a sense of humanity in me that have been slipping away for so long now.

I hate people. Human beings are pure scum to the highest order is what I always tell myself but at the same time there was always some weird hope in me that not all people are bad. That instead it is because of just me who is a fucking stain on humanity, that I should be the one to not exist for goodness' sake and that there are good, genuine people even though they might be weird or don't look like it. With Hololive I felt as if I was part of something nice, and I was happy and grateful that I could share those fun and weird moments when they stream, the type that I use to have when I was a kid when everything was simpler.

The time I spent watching this girl's stream was also something similar. I was actually happy, despite knowing something was definitely fishy and went along with it for that feeling, which is why I never SCed or joined membership even though it was tempting.

Even if all of it was a lie, I was happy and maybe it was because of Hololive that I wanted to believe that many of the other vtubers as well, those people who are dedicating themselves and are working hard to actually bring me entertainment are also genuinely nice and that they too just want to make the world a little brighter.

While I really regret having been caught in such a stupid trap so easily, I am actually grateful for this lesson and still for the short time of bliss. I don't seriously hate this girl for what she's done, but at the same time I really wish that I would never have to care about her again and maybe forget about all this but not all. I can not deny that I do want to give somewhat thanks to her for opening my eyes and having made me laugh and smiled.

I also want to write this for the anons of 4chan and the JOPs from 5ch. I want to sincerely apologize and also thank all of you. You guys are no doubt biggest pieces of shit in the shittest corners of the web and those that I would never ever want to associate with in real life, but at the same time it is thanks to you that I am coming to understand and reinforce the beauty of what being a human, hell what a "good person" is. Even if the methods tend to be harsh and your words being trash, you still did a great service and helped me, a dumbass who is writing a god damn blog post on a dying thread but I don't care because I just what to write this out even if no one will ever read it or find it again.

Thank you, faggots of 4chan. Thank you, degenerate of 5ch who will never see or get this message. I feel as if I can finally maybe take a step forward in my shitty life, although I highly doubt it. But I am still very grateful for everything, even if it might sound like bullshit and I'm not sure if any of you can understand nor can I myself really.

But thank you, seriously.

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>>32046393
on lunch break 5chancel?

[Anonymous No.]

No point trying to muddy the water with copy pasta, nerd. People are going to remember this incident no matter what. However no one is stopping you from enjoying this Chinese knockoff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32046462
the problem is believing the opinion of others too easily instead of observing the whole situation as it is, good and bad

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>>32046406
You have to consider that he was a hardcore fan. He supported her when she was still small. They had a good relationship. Then something happened in between them. Although he was eventually given compensation, Uto could have handled it a lot better. She's already big. A simple shoutout to recognize his efforts would have sufficed. So petty and immature...

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>>32046462
based, also meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>32046393
I prefer the term paladin.

[Anonymous No.]

did Uto actually make that artfag kneel without lifting a finger? how is she so based

[Anonymous No.]

>>32046594
>>32046705
>replying to pasta

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>>32046702
>Then something happened in between them
That's the the key. According to the guy he was ghosted. Maybe she found a better artist and didn't want to deal with him, maybe she realized he was a schizo stalker. We'll never know for sure unless a pattern emerges later with other people in the same situation.

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>>32046406
>>32046702
I bet all of you faggots would have done the same thing as him. But it ain't happening cause all of you are talentless fucks. Fuck all of you fucking white knights.

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>>32046905
>According to the guy he was ghosted.
>According to the guy
He was unfollowed and that is easy to check. Feels like people never read the original source and have no idea where all these came from.

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>>32046702
she was running her entire venture, likely busy enough for him to fall under the radar
the mass unfollowing is on par with her preparing to become a vtuber process, since his connections might tie her to her sister
her obsession with professionalism means she does business in a formal かしこまりました tone

so her fault ultimately amounts to negligence and not taking into account his emotional demands

[Anonymous No.]

>keep talking about the artist scandal to distract people from the fact that she is a fake indie supported by Chinese company
I gotta give it to the whiteknights because they are doing a good job distracting us.

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>>32047026
Isn't that the same thing? He was unfollowed and she didn't respond to him sending messages, that's pretty much being ghosted. Unless there's some other detail. Then you have some 5ch tards jumping on the bandwagon and blowing it up to include the metatag and other stale shit.

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>>32047204
Was still stupid of her to not at least start completely over. What was she expecting if she was going to use the same twitter and everything, with evidence still lying around everywhere. She got greedy, wanting to keep what she already has while also getting the new.

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>>32047295
she used a new twitter though, most of the evidence starts from playboard

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/*
Anonymous 01/11/21(Mon)02:02:01 No.32028268▶>>32029577 >>32030277
Good evening, I'm a DeepL devotee.
Looks like she's still having problems.

https://twitter.com/K4G_chan/status/1347557927792439296

・voice : I lost my collaboration with AMATSUKA UTO LOL

https://twitter.com/K4G_chan/status/1347560179131244544

・I have no idea why I suddenly have to be stopped from uploading when I've paid all the fees for MV and MIX and asked for it and solved all the conditions and such that don't seem to pass by various means.

Perhaps she's trying to end her relationship with someone who is no longer of use to her because her mimicry of a hololive has been successful.
*/

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>>32047261
I think pretty much people are on her back now because of the metatag thing more than anything. Worse is that she might have support from the Chinese company, hence the Chinese knockoff that people are on about.

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>whiteknights
I don't know man, but you obviously sound like a redditor right now.

[Anonymous No.]

reminder to that all posts mentioning "fake indie" and "chinese company" originate from 5ch in some way

[Anonymous No.]

>>32047295
She used the same Twitter account from back during her esports streaming days. Probably wanted to keep all the followers.

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>>32047388
>redditor
New insult added to the list here >>32029314

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>>32047759
all true btw

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>>32047204
>she was running her entire venture
Wasn't this the same girl who have like "friends" to manage her own accounts? Like they even "mistakenly" put incorrect meta tags on her vids.
>her obsession with professionalism means she does business in a formal かしこまりました tone
Her involvement on past scandals show that she's anything but proffesional.
I don't like to nitpick but this take doesn't hold water imo.

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>>32048032
>Wasn't this the same girl who have like "friends" to manage her own accounts? Like they even "mistakenly" put incorrect meta tags on her vids.
probably her excuse, but she also did like to delegate other tasks to other people

>Her involvement on past scandals show that she's anything but proffesional.
Her only other "scandal", the falling out with the previous group, was because she found to group too unprofessional to keep going

[Anonymous No.]

Actual doxx of Uto, look at your own discretion.

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>>32048222
You love Xi so much you couldn't help but click on his picture when posting about other things?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32048276
You can't read?

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>>32048222
But she's an angel, not a bear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32048309
Chinks like you try too hard to play both sides
At least post the right picture this time

[Anonymous No.]

>>32048449
Kawaii

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>>32048449
Is this even legit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32048449
makes my dick hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>32048449
looks like a dude

[Anonymous No.]

>>32048932
Anon....

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>>32048449
I bet her ass smells good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32048932
Anon, you should be honest to yourself. Modern society is accepts faggots with open arms now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32048932
even better

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>>32047204
>her obsession with professionalism means she does business in a formal かしこまりました tone
I know all her whiteknight can't understand Japanese but it is still funny that you mixed up the conversation between her and the artist.

[Anonymous No.]

There are whispered rumors that a Chinese company is behind her.

Watson Mom is not taking requests from individuals, so it seems certain that she is not an individual. I understand that the copycat and cover-up practices are similar to Chinese companies, as I live in a country adjacent to China LOL

[Anonymous No.]

In her case, there is evidence, but 90% of Japanese users who are familiar with Vtubers can recognize her as a "fake indie" just by taking a look at her.

Since the character of a Vtuber is determined by the person inside, the job of designing a Vtuber is to entrust the image of the person's illustration to a third party.
This is why it is known to be a high-risk job, and there are many illustrators who have stated that they will not take on Vtuber design work.
For example, now that Coco is on fire in China, the artist who designed her Yaman, will be getting fewer requests from Chinese clients.

If you are working with a company like Hololive, which is expected to gain a lot of popularity, you can think of it as a high-risk, high-return business because you can get publicity, but taking design jobs for individuals is a high-risk, no-return business because there is no publicity.

Therefore, in Japan, it is already common knowledge that famous illustrators do not work with individuals, and in most cases, when they do, it is either with a company or under the control of the illustrator himself.

In the future, if you see a Vtube featuring a famous illustrator and they claim to be an individual, you can assume it's a "fake indie".
Very few people will take that job.

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>>32050142
>>32050008
Ogay cchang

[Anonymous No.]

A company has had their talent fake a hololive, this is a big problem. It's a bomb that could lead to legal problems.

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>>32050215
Nothing is confirmed but these nips are saying stuff that makes sense? Poor SEAchama...

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>>32050142
>>32050008
Can you nips stop shitting up the thread? Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>32050354
>Hololive invented vtubers

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>>32049800
かしこまりました
ごめんね、ちぃさん

[Anonymous No.]

>>32050416
>>32050527
Your angel is no longer with us. Poor white knight.

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>>32050598
thank goodness she escaped

[Anonymous No.]

Watson's mom is not accepting requests from individuals (truth)

UTO is not an indie individual (truth)

She is being controlled by a Chinese company (rumor)

Let's accept the reality.

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>>32048002
All me

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Interesting enough, the person who benefit the most from this is still her rigger/papa. The lucky man basically has nothing to do with any of this but he sure as heck made bank with jobs due to how much effort he put on this one.
Don't even care but that is definitely a positive on my book. Congratulation to him and hope he will continue to succeed.

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>>32050827
he frequently posts in the discord so he's invested into her too

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>>32032059
Narukami is untouchable, even Ichikara couldn't do shit against him.

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>>32050885
Either way he's making money now and getting job. No matter the controversy as long as he doesn't get involved in anyway doubt it would matter cause it was still just a job and he did a good job.
Also, his investment did pay off quite well.

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>>32050732
かしこまりました。

[Anonymous No.]

Still waiting on any proof. And no, just because the person speaks Japanese does not mean their word counts as proof. The narrative fags here would have you believe the woman has the full backing of the Chinese government but also cannot pay $15.

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>>32052329
In the first place, it was Uto who offered the illustrator a remunerated job, and she had been causing trouble since the days of "Bourbon House" by asking for work without going through her company

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking hell. I take it tht she only brought up ame as her sister was because a bunch of fag kept on spamming her chat with "Amelia's sister?" A threesome with them would be salty and sweet.

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>>32052531
Take your meds, zhang.

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>>32050405
It is known that she had been posting these sentences right after she opened her Twitter account.

いつも応援ありがとう！DMはスタッフが管理してるけど天使も見てるよ～
Thank you for all your support! The staff is managing the DMs, but the angels are watching too!

Apparently, they started hiding the corporations in the middle of the day.

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>>32052654
The evidence has already been presented several times.

You are the one who needs drugs to escape from reality.

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>>32052807
かしこまりました。

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>>32052329
>Still waiting on any proof.
You are blind or something?

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>>32052694
that's her sister

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any proof of her being associated with China? I've been casually following these threads and I've only seen the screencap of her DMs being managed by somebody else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32053573
in the brains of japanese netouyos

[Anonymous No.]

>>32048449
fake and gay

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>>32053100
I meant proof on any of the actually serious allegations, like her trying to get out of paying the artist or being owned by China. Some stupid kiddy drama during her past vtuber work and using metatags to drive up her popularity are fucking nothing. All I am seeing is typical melodrama from literally who's on social media and youtubers farming clicks by taking advantage of said drama. If this is enough to make you an anti you are either underaged or emotionally unstable. Note that I'm not ruling out both given where we are.

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>>32053337
Funny joke. lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32054443
less of a joke than yours elmao

[Anonymous No.]

Why does it feel like the majority of this thread doesn't understand japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

>>32024117
>AOS
>>32017827
>>32017908
Two reaction template with her avatar
>>32054960
Never trust the Japanese!

[Anonymous No.]

>103 posters
Where the fuck are you guys coming from???

[Anonymous No.]

>>32054960
Majority of her fans are Hololive eops and seaniggers that haven't done their reps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32050142
Yep, a retard wrote this shit. Fuck off bug.

[Anonymous No.]

>>32055180
Chinks, fag japs, and schizo's.

[Anonymous No.]

The leader of the Bourbon Clan.

" We both said we wouldn't disclose our ages to the public, but it doesn't work that we accidentally disclosed them. I don't care uto's boyfriend is exposed, I don't care. I'm angry. "

[Anonymous No.]

>>32055826
5ch-kun I got u >>32032229

[Anonymous No.]

It seems to be true that the Chinese group attacking coco was trying to set up a Vtuber business. I don't know if that is uto. The timing is consistent.