Alternatives to 4chan

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Any website that feels like OG 4chan before 2016?

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>>36750443
I wish.

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If I knew of any I would have left this board full of pretentious assholes

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>>36750443
>OG 4chan
>2016
what the fuck, that's like a full decade off.

[Anonymous No.]

every existing good site is private
every existing public site is awful and infested
as other anon said, if it wasn't like this, i wouldn't be here

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i've been thinking about making one. i could do it. i know how to work apache and a command line.
but nobody will continuously post there and it will be a massive waste of time to even bother setting up

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>>36750833
Why bother? There's already hundreds of other failed/barely alive chan parodies. Yours wouldn't be much different.
The old crowd will never return, they've either killed themselves or graduated from NEET-doom.

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>>36750443
2015 4chan wasn't any better.

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>>36750443
>before 2016
This is bait, right? RIGHT?

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>>36750443
>OG 4chan before 2016
Hey guys 2015 oldfag here

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I wish there was a nostalgia board

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>>36750443
Yes but I ain't telling you because rules 1 and 2. :^)

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>>36750925
It was better that the shit that is the current year.

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>>36750443
Yes. Here is the secret link:
forums.somethingawful.com

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>>36750443
are there any tags I can use to find more images in this artstyle?

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>>36751048
It would just get invaded.
A lot of imageboard culture is considered normal or common these days, we are known on other sites. New faces are always flooding in trying to figure us out, they can't. Trends change constantly and this place soaks it up like a sponge.
And here we are trying to preserve it.
This is the OG 4chan.

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>>36752004
>This is the OG 4chan.
Where's the ironic gamer speak?

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>>36750443
>before 2016

[Anonymous No.]

Every other chan that claims or wants to be an alternative to what this website became since 2015-2016 either gets invaded by the same crowd that populates this website because a link to the new chan is posted here or added to the chan indexes, or either manages to become a larping website where everyone pretends it's 2007 and nothing ever happened. Every mention of 4chan gets you a ban, normalfag lingo gets you a ban, memes get you a ban, naruto/dragonball posting gets you a ban, 3dpd gets you a ban, blogposting gets you a ban. Arguably this sound awesome and something everyone here who wants the old days back would welcome but guess what? The admin of these places are incompetent, can't push updates or fix shit and years old threads are left there for no reason making you feel like posting in there is worthless because who the fuck would still read a thread about the announcement of this anime airing on date x?

Going back on topic, if there's any good place that gets advertised or promoted, it's not on 4chan because everyone knows people read this place and they don't want the kind of people who now browse 4chan. I think you should look for other chans and start investigating there if the rules allow for such threads to be opened. A good start would be looking at the alternative chan indexes on 4chan X github. A series of indexes featuring different chans are contained in such links so there's enough material for you to work with

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>>36750443
Heyuri?
Unfortunately it's run by a russian pederast.

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>>36752662
>Heyuri
Why I don't get it?

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>>36750443
Kohlchan net/2dint/

[Anonymous No.]

What was before 2016 or 2007 that is not here today? What exactly do you want from an anonymous communication site?

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I was here in 2007-2011 before the /jp/ separation from /a/ and before /jp/ renaming then completely abandoned imageboards for like 10 years. Then returned here in last year. And my first impression was - NOTHING fucking changed, you are all exact same edgelord faggots as always. Someone is even still posting the spahgetti bird.

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>>36752885
>What was before 2016 or 2007 that is not here today?
Quality posts.

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>>36752885
>What exactly do you want from an anonymous communication site?
No discussion about real-life controversies or issues, and no discussion about drama/controversies from off-topic sites. I don't want to hear about it. The rules are the equivalent of the Hakurei Barrier and attract fantastic discussion and repel the normalfags with permanent IP and poison cookie bans.
This single rule about off-topic posting will trickle down to weeding out other types of low-quality discussion.

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>>36752662
Heyuri is trash

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>>36751375
fucking goon git out

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>>36752933
Nice larp.

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>>36750443
You would need to remove the masses of normalfags that took over the internet before even thinking of finding a place like that.

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>>36750443
The webring.
lurk moar

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>>36753744
>and poison cookie bans.
How does that work? If you get a ban, try to evade and you are found with a cookie from a prev ban you also get banned on the new IP or something like that?

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>>36751863
oekaki

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>>36755856
It also reminds me of pc98 art but stripped of all the details

[a real oldfag No.]

you wanna go 2004?
A- Destroy the whole website (upload massive amounts of hard candy, then, send requests to the feds)(dox the mods and send the data to antifa)(spam terrorist threats nonstop)
B- Fight the menace (dox every single youtuber who talks about 4chan)
C- Make a better alternative (not gonna happen)

viva la lulz

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>>36755879
>It also reminds me of pc98 art
Art like that is just low resolution and making tricks with limited color palettes.

>>36750443
Is oekaki style images, like something you'd draw with a mouse in paint.

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>>36756951
>making tricks with limited color palettes
The amount of detail going into shading is still not comparable regardless of the technique you used. I don't think any less of pc98 art because of that. Regardless, I still enjoy the simplicity of oekaki. There's charm into that as well

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>>36756695
>antifa
Aren't you americans overstating the relevance of antifa? Rest of the democratic republics around the world don't have this sort of polarization

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>>36755549
half of the shit on the webring has psychotic people running them, have cp spammed daily, and i know at least a couple have actual feds because their canary warrants + pgp keys went kaput. i can only think of one site out of all of them that's actually on good standing
at least here you already know it's fedposting but communities that pretend they aren't infested are snakeish

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>>36752885
tripsfriends

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>>36752885
Less traffic.
The problem started post-2001.

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>>36750443

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>>36750848
>they've either killed themselves or graduated from NEET-doom.
this, most oldfags have been gone and eventually we will be too and eventually whatever replaces us will be even shittier and think these times were some golden era when it was really shit.

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>>36757257
Why do you care about feds if you aren't the one spamming cp?

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>>36752885
I want slower image boards; everything is moving too fast nowadays.

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>>36757113
>The amount of detail going into shading is still not comparable
comparable to what?

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>>36758546
Then create one yourself with a time limit between all posts made on the board/chan.

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>>36758385
Ah yes, the site made out of pure butthurt that moot wouldn't let them invade other sites and cause a bunch of children to flood the board by talking about 4chan everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

yeah disc

ScjkPVCkBP

[Anonymous No.]

I've heard positive things about kissu.

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>>36758514
you haven't noticed fedposting on other boards? they just spam shit when there's actual discussion

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>>36752580
The only reason /jp/ works at all is because it's a board on 4chan populated by people who hate 4chan. If you put it somewhere else it would get flooded by antis who hate this site so much that they spend every single hour of every day talking about nothing but how much they hate it.

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>>36750443
basedjack.party
Unironically

[Anonymous No.]

The only good chans alternative have reply ids starting from 1 like >>1 >>2 >>3 and so on. I don't know who invented this unique id thing but it sucks ass. There, I said my bit

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>>36759421
>I don't know who invented this unique id thing but it sucks ass.
It was invented on Futaba, I think.

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>>36755766
Precisely. Automatic ban evasion detection.

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I miss SovietRussia.org
/z/ managed to go years without it being abused once. But then it was the cats board (I think) that got CP spammed by faggot /b/tards from here.
Fuck Mohey Pori and Shii for making the overchan.

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>>36759421
They are sequential IDs, and 4chan uses them too. The first post on /jp/ was >>1. The post made directly before yours was >>36759420.
It makes sense and is consistent, unlike something completely random or incomprehensible like UUIDs or snowflakes respectively.

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>>36759653
Anyone with half a brain can remove the cookies before refreshing the page and posting again after evading. Who is that going to stop? The most digitally illiterate posters I presume. But what is the amount of them compared to normal anons?
>>36759740
This is how I would make it work. A thread gets it's unique id as usual and in order to reerence a post from another thread you do >>THREAD_ID/POST_ID or >>36750443/57 that would redirect to the post >>57 inside the thread >>36750443
Keeping track of replies using long ids is just inconvenient and I don't know what's the reason behind them

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>>36759810
Surprisingly that'd catch a LOT of people out. Especially if you use evercookies system.
Catching out the dumbest motherfuckers is really going to be worth it.

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>>36759863
>evercookies
Would you be able to trick it using ublock origin since it relies in javascript to work? Like, setting some stupid constant that has nothing to do with you or something like that. I wonder if they have some resources dealing with that kind of system

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>>36759905
You'd be able to use a userscript to rewrite it and disable any blocking
But the developer could also generate obfuscated code regularly to screw over people trying to break it.

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I was checking to see if warosu was still getting novels of spam all the time (it is) and saw this thread.

One of the things about the old internet is that people went exploring and heard about things from acquaintances who did the same. The internet is far easier to navigate today during the age of automated scrapers, listings, and of course broadband. If you apply yourself and start exploring you'll no longer be reliant on the five or so web giants and will learn some knowledge that you can apply for other purposes. Generally, the thought is that if a person can't be bothered to do this for their own self-interest, their ability to contribute as part of a community is a forgone conclusion.
When it comes to other imageboards the dangers of 4chan/8gag influence can lead to stress over the pollution of the culture and this can and does lead to self-inflicted strangulation and board death. On the other hand, if even just 1% of people on 4chan /jp/ moved to another imageboard it would easily overwhelm the board with superior numbers and the "natives" would feel alienated. It'd just be 4chan on a different url and thus destined to die as people return to 4chan for the same thing in a faster form.

>>36750833
The main issue with people making imageboards is that 99% of the time they build the scaffolding (the website itself) and then expect other people to create the building (the content). It's really unfortunate because it damages the reputation of non-4chan boards in general. It's like shovelware in website form or something.

>>36759393
>Unironically
If there was one word that defined the newer internet generations it would be this one. Irony is the default and sincerity must be declared. Needless to say this is not what anyone wanting an older internet experience would seek out, although 2015 really isn't old.

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>>36760388
Is 4chan culture that different compared to other image boards? I can't really imagine going through the trouble of moving to a new image board and then acting like the people you are running away from. In the end 90% of the responsibilities lies on the mods shoulders. If you act like an idiot, don't read the rules and shit all over the place you get the ban. Maybe lack of strict rules is what ruined this website, not the fact new people joined

Also why is warosu owner allowing that spam?

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>>36760388
>Irony is the default and sincerity must be declared.
Heh, I was just thinking exactly the same thing. What a mess.

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>>36759810
>The main issue with people making imageboards is that 99% of the time they build the scaffolding (the website itself) and then expect other people to create the building (the content).
Unless I misunderstand, I don't really understand what the alternative here is. How are imageboard admins supposed to create discussion (what I assume you mean by "content") all by themselves?

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>>36760496
>Is 4chan culture that different compared to other image boards?
Flip that question around:
>Are other image board cultures that different compared to 4chan?
And the answer is sometimes. The biggest factor is whether the board is made to promote something original, or whether it is made in protest/derivative to 4chan.
The former are usually much more successful in terms of having a sense of community and original discussion.The latter tend to attract the kind of people that get the stick on 4chan, which isn't always unwarranted, and they usually don't change their tune when given a new place to get attention. Doesn't mean all spinoffs are bad, I lurk a few from time-to-time, but they usually aren't nearly as unique as boards with original board ideas and staff/posters that are genuine about it.

>Also why is warosu owner allowing that spam?
No beef with the guy, but it is kind of obvious he does the bare minimum to keep to lights on. I wouldn't trust warosu being around 5 years from now, though the archives are already preserved AFAIK.

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>>36752885
I miss magical archive voile/gensokyo and wakachan in general.

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doushio is pretty alright, its culture involves a bit more name/tripfagging though

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>>36760681
>How are imageboard admins supposed to create discussion (what I assume you mean by "content") all by themselves?
What usually works out best to start is to have a group of people with interest in whatever the site is intended to pander to who can generate discussion, while also going out of your way (anonymously) to generate interesting OPs and keep current posters engaged enough.
So when other anons come across it, they don't get the vibe of it being "dead," forced," etc., and might actually post.

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>>36760773
>though the archives are already preserved AFAIK
There's a yuki.la dump on /t/ right now if you are interested in old threads from here

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>>36760773
Another example. Probably deathly boring to a bunch of anons, but clearly a different vibe than 4chan.

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>>36760821
>they don't get the vibe of it being "dead,"
It would also help if they added an auto archiving/safe function to their image boards. There is no need to keep a 2013 thread around if nobody is going to post in there. Not to mention you also get a warning for necro if you bump. Just archive unused threads and make new ones.. That's the first thing people notice when they try different image boards: "is this place dead? when was latest thread started?". Keeping a years old thread in your catalog/index gives the wrong impression to new users

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>>36760875
Are flags enforced on the whole image board? I don't really like them but I do kinda like thread unique id to avoid samefagging and derailing

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>>36760905
No, but every other board is non-English, so it's mostly a moot point.
Flags rarely come up as an issue because the vast majority of posters don't care to make it an issue, and those who do get the stick.
Much lower tolerance for posting in bad faith than 4chan, intentional or otherwise. Not everyone's cup of tea of course.

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>>36751375
>paying money to shitpost
what kinda cuck do i look like to you?

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>>36751375
>>36762521
Are there archives of the paywalled boards?
I just want to lurk it.

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>>36750443
>>36752662
>>36752682
>>36752743
>>36755549
>>36760809
Fuck off kuz. I'm not movin

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>>36762521
>since 2021
A cuck AND a retard!

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>>36760388
I mean if all you're going to do is create a "community" for the same five people, what is even the point? You'd be better off with something like an IRC or discord channel. It's not like you'd really be less anonymous, with a group that small people can tell each other apart by posting styles alone.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

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>>36760496
>Is 4chan culture that different compared to other image boards?
Yes and no. 4chan is fill with activism,outrage, and anger. People looking for a different place are generally going to focus on positive things instead. (of course 4chan's biggest rivals in size share the same outrage culture). I think part of it is just demographics, too. People grow older and don't want to fight all the time, even the biggest trolls eventually want to actually enjoy things again. 4chan can be a bit of a culture shock if you leave it for a while, because there's new vocabulary from a new generation and they have their own interests and experiences.

>>36760681
I think the other guy answered it for me. You do need to try hard and make threads and discussions and you'll go insane and lose motivation if you're doing it on your own.
I won't say the board software or the website existing aren't important, but it's the conversations that bring people to it and make them stay. It's extra hard because most people on imageboards (especially those that want to leave 4chan) aren't going to be social butterflies with boundless motivation.

>>36764334
Discord is the biggest competitor to imageboards, yeah. You pick one of them if you have a group of people and most unfortunately choose discord since it's certainly far easier. And the point? Well, you want to try and grow and rekindle the magic. You find like-minded people elsewhere and casually invite them. You struggle and struggle and it might be worth it.

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>>36751375
I understand what you're getting at, but I highly doubt most 4chan users nowadays would see eye to eye with most goons. From what I remember last I was there, many users, even the older ones, share more beliefs and behaviours in common with much of the "modern web" than here.

>>36762993
I'm pretty sure you have to pay extra to get access to archives of any sort.

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>>36759170
So feds are just shitposters?

[Anonymous No.]

himasugi

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>>36766040
feds are everywhere. take that literally.

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>>36766061
You didn't answer his question.

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>>36766061
>>36766097
Actually, I read his question more like "so feds [on 4chan] are just shitposters?" , but actually he could've been talking in general. So you did answer his question.
My mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>still up
meido a subhuman

[Anonymous No.]

I only started coming to /jp/ during the vtuber boom and although it’s surely very different now than it was 10-15 years ago, there’s a greater sense of net-based cultural history here than anywhere else I frequent. Interestingly, Japanese twitter has an older feeling of cultural continuity than American twitter maybe just owing to how big it is and how much bigger net-culture was in Japan during the 90s and 00s. It really does feel like the Japanese internet is about 8 years older.

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>>36766601
>I only started coming to /jp/ during the vtuber boom
didn't read the rest

[Anonymous No.]

As much as I dislike to say it, the majority of people that fled this shithole moved to the likes of Reddit and Discord to get away from rampant trolling, outrage culture, etc.
SNS, Youtube in particular since we had many content creators over the years that posted here and have all but left (visibly, at least).
This sites lack of moderation growth - thanks to moot - killed it. Self moderation has never worked. It never has, it never will. See any board that claims to be a "champion" of self-moderation (/a/ especially, one of the worst boards since the 2010 invasion of wherever the fuck the now-majority of the board came from)
The only system that'd partially work, would be a reward based Slashdot-like moderation. But I can even see that being abused. Moderation judgements being paired up randomly with at least a handful of others, if they mostly agree on the judgement, it is dealt. Reward for doing that would be faster posting and less captchas. If you want to go balls-to-the-wall, extra image slots. Cookie linked preferably, IPs swing about too much for most.
Will this happen? Will it fuck. How can ERPs happen with that? Exactly.

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>>36765922
>Discord
That's just yet another circlejerk that favors people who already know each others. Similarly to how old forums work. I personally just feel more comfortable on an anonymous platform where everyone is treated equally, in theory

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>>36750443
I hope you meant before 2008

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>>36768112
Question: What has the Emperor ever done for me?
Answer: What have you ever done for the Emperor?

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>>36751375
haha very funny
no

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>>36766729
Just let OPs moderate their own threads but be unable to bump them.

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>>36769681
While that could be a nice idea in general, it would also be abused to create echochamber threads.
Then the boards in question would be flooded with "MY [hread]" dupes out the wazoo to the point of making them worse than /v/ was before the /vg/ split. Also see all the retards that were spamming shitpost vtuber threads for months on end because of dumb tribalism. It'd be that but insanely worse.

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>>36769746
Generals are already echochamber threads. Also being flooded with on topic threads is not actually a problem. The threads people want to post in will survive. The rest will remain on ghostbump lifesupport.

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>>36750443
when /d/ isn't quite hitting the mark, guro.cx

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>>36750443
>2016
>OG
It was already too late by then.
Things are so bad I'm honestly thinking of signing up for somethingawful. It doesn't seem good but on the hobby boards people seem to at least sincerely care about their interests.

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>>36752885
To discuss my hobbies in good faith with strangers.

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>>36752885
there's been a steady influx of people who are not even looking to talk about stuff they like but are here only to shitpost. the type that i've even see say outright that they're doing the serious conversations on another site and are here only to stir up shit. i wish we had more draconian moderation policies, i wouldn't really care whether it'd slows things down a lot. i want to go back to when everything didn't instantly devolve into flinging buzzwords

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>>36776296
Current 4chan probably makes more money like this. That's why they won't do shit

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>>36752885
tripfag circlejerks. Funny how most of the are on twitter now.

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>>36779150
If only ZUN!bar were here...

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>>36757132
antifa is funded by the Open Society foundation. They are basically the NGO's decentralized constabulary unit

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>>36750771
>>36750925
>>36750964
>>36750996
while the site had been on steady decline since 2009 the one two punch of GG followed by the elections was instant death

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>>36766601
>It really does feel like the Japanese internet is about 8 years older.
you only have that feeling because you don't understand Japanese. Twitter outrage mobs are also present in Japan and their notoriety just keeps growing. Also, stop using twitter.

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>>36766194
Who are you quoting?

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>>36767001
I mean if your community only has ten or so users they're all going to know each other eventually even if they are anonymous (and that "anonymity" can be stripped away if the admin feels like it.) Of all the problems 4chan has had over the years this is one area it's actually been pretty good about.
Ideally you'd want something like Discord but P2P and decentralized, with encryption and anonymization. Who is going to make it though? /g/ struggled to make a manga reader front end (and never finished it), nobody elsr even seems interested in the idea.

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What's good moderation policy? Too much moderation means that moderators hold a disproportionate amount of input over the users. This isn't necessarily a problem if the moderators are in tune with board culture and user wishes. What seems to happen in a lot of different forums I've been in is that the moderation team becomes detached from the userbase, and they start to delete posts they don't like & ban users on a whim. I think it's a hard balance to strike. Me personally, I'd rather filter idiots and ignore shitposting than deal with power-tripping leddit mods.

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>>36780162
>What's good moderation policy?
Set up rules and follow said rules.

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>>36760496
I have good news for you: not only does SomethingAwful have strict rules, they're also ENFORCED!

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>>36750771
>>36779285
I see why the election was bad but why was GG bad

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>>36756695
I really want option B to happen. My youtube feed is filled with these faggots talking about tourist boards and unfunny greentexts. They are the real menace to 4chan imo

[Anonymous No.]

You have to make peace with the fact that the internet of old is gone.
You can search constantly for a new home, but you'd end up complaining about something else about that place, either userbase, speed, or moderation.
I made peace with this a long time ago, can't fight entropy.

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Happy birthday 4chan!

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>>36780427
Site got full of Reddit/Neogaf/Funnyjunk people who thought the main appeal of 4chan was that it was naturally aligned to their politics instead of being the laissez faire place it had been before.
Unironically those people are the people are constantly obsessed with "reddit spacing" and telling other people to go back. Nobody else gives a shit.

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>>36767001
Yeah, of course, but it functions so much like an imageboard that any time a group of people uses both one of them will die and I've never seen it be the imageboard.

>>36780162
The thing that changed with 4chan's moderation long ago is that the mods aren't active users of the boards. They have a revolving door of expendable janitors as intermediaries while the mods do whatever the fuck it is they do...presumably yiffing it up in Second Life or whatever they do these days.. VR chat?
Moderators should be an active part of the community and you can't moderate well if you're not, you just see glimpses here or there. It leads to bad decisions and a weakening of the community, but 4chan's sense of community is dead anyway so I guess it doesn't matter too much in that regard.

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>>36780583
me too anon, I made peace with it a few years ago. I guess when you grow older everything from the old times are gone at best or a desolate shell at worst

[Anonymous No.]

There are a number of alternative imageboards that have attempted to replicated early 4chan. Most of them either got flooded with CP and taken down or are dead due to a lack of users.
Other imageboards are trying their own thing, and some are succeeding at it, but usually still suffer from a chronic lack of users. This is a problem because it fades anonymity once posting habits start to be recognized. Basically becomes a forum filled with personalityfags.
They do have way better IB software than 4chan though like file uploads of 100mb+, 5 images/post, sound webms, ability to use VPNs etc. There's lists of them somewhere out there, I can't be bothered to look where I saved them.
>>36755549
The webring is a dead shithole of the worst kind of autism. You're going to have to cope that 8ch died as well due to the burger election and the webring is only a ghost of the past.
Feel free to fuck off back to smugloli /a/

[Anonymous No.]

>>36750443
Reddit would be right up your alley.

[Anonymous No.]

ctrl-f dqn
ctrl-f sageru

Hmmm . . .

[Anonymous No.]

>>36780729
Webring is mostly dogshit, but there's at least one okay board. You just have to find places that don't like either 4chan or 8ch. From there, some have friend boards and sites to check out that might have similar sentiments that aren't on the webring at all.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>36752662
didn't the heyuri mods bully the admin out of ownership

[Anonymous No.]

>>36781131
k-z is an awful menace, please stop repeating the name of his site to boost his PageRank

everyone hates him and there are several lawsuits against him and an active DoJ investigation

[Anonymous No.]

>>36779946
>Ideally you'd want something like Discord but P2P and decentralized
I just dislike the concept of endless stream of information aka chatrooms. It feels like an eternal twitch chat where you have to be there from the beginning to get an idea of what is going on when something is being discusses. Also I did try discord and some of the major servers and no matter the size the community, users always orbit the same 3-4 people. Maybe I'm having the wrong approach, trying to fit in instead of making the most out of temporary social interactions but the fact I can come back to a thread, calmly read other people posts and then reply whenever I feel like, is just invaluable
>>36780364
I hope this is not a pyramid scheme..
>>36780682
>and I've never seen it be the imageboard.
There are plenty of dead or abandoned image boards out there though. I've even had people from certain generals on certain boards on this site moving on different chans out of protest only to get back here months or a year later because you just can't ignore this place long enough to make your new home any more relevant. Even though you spam links to the 'new home' hoping for more people to move. I think this is a peculiar aspect of 4chan, not image boards themselves

[Anonymous No.]

delete /pol/
aggressively unlive all /pol/ posts for 2 years afterward
I have fixed the answer? Yes!

[Anonymous No.]

>>36781443
How is this place going to make all the money if you kick all the kids out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36750443
It's probably just not possible to find anywhere now and fuck discord before anyone says it. The internet is no longer a broadly jovial sort of wild west populated primarily by nerds, everyone has a smartphone or laptop now. I miss those times very much, but I can't see them coming back. Not sure how to get over the crushing disappointment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36781421
>but the fact I can come back to a thread, calmly read other people posts and then reply whenever I feel like, is just invaluable
There isn't any functional difference between /jp/ and a chatroom. That's literally the case in /djt/. The only technical difference is that there's a cooldown timer and the chat isn't automatically updated by default.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36781421
>Also I did try discord and some of the major servers and no matter the size the community, users always orbit the same 3-4 people. Maybe I'm having the wrong approach, trying to fit in instead of making the most out of temporary social interactions but the fact I can come back to a thread, calmly read other people posts and then reply whenever I feel like, is just invaluable
Discord now has a 'threads' feature that lets you start like a group chat within the server without having to invite anyone as group chats normally work. You can use it to start a discussion about something without having to be present.

Aside from that though, the way I use discord is simply log on, check if anything of interest is being discussed, and log off. You don't have to sit in servers for hours on end ('endless stream of information'), that's arguably a waste of time. It also does depend on the server itself, some servers are more 'friend' servers than hobby/interest servers so of course your presence as a stranger is going to be mostly ignored in favor of the 'friends'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36781523
>There isn't any functional difference between /jp/ and a chatroom
There isn't any function difference between CERTAIN THREADS on /jp/ and a chatroom
It's not the board or the site itself being any different from discord
The same people who treat this place as a chatroom are the same people populating the infamous thread that made this curve bump
>>36781553
>Discord now has a 'threads' feature
Meh. Nobody ever bothers using that. Discord people just prefer chat rooms over threading posts. You could argue I could start opening threads myself but what is the point if I'm the only one doing it? Also I can just do the same here with all the perks of being anonymous and the certainty I'll be read by somebody eventually. The few discord I keep my eye on have a common interest that might be sharing of doujinshi or music with social activities on the side (which I don't really care about honestly) or discords about certain videogames where info and resources are shared

[Anonymous No.]

The Internet is currently being consolidated. You will never get back the "old Internet" you nerds keep lamenting about. Either accept and live by with its current trajectory or go outside and meet people. Oh wait, you can't even do that anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>36780687
It still doesn't mean you should put the past on a pedestal, otherwise you may be missing some of the good stuff that can happen nowadays.
Because even with all the negatives that exist with modern internet good things can still happen

[Anonymous No.]

>>36781590
No, there is barely any functional difference between posting on a board using the 4chan frontend and a Discord chat room. What actually sets them apart?
The message list is auto-updated? Off on 4chan by default, but you can turn it on using the native extension.
Replying to posts days or weeks or even years old? Discord archives everything, so it's even better in that regard than 4chan with its week-long archive.
Centralized infrastructure? Yup, although 4chan administration is centralized as well and Discord ``servers'' appoint their own mods.

The biggest difference between 4chan and Discord is obviously that you don't need an account to use 4chan and can post pseudo-anonymously (as only mods can see your IP). But of course IRC doesn't need registration either, though you do need a nickname and it lacks other 4chan and Discord features.
The other difference is the ability to segregate discussion into threads, which I'd argue is actually just as important. I don't know about Discord's implementation of it but from what I'm hearing here it sounds less developed. But I think we need to admit that this is the major technical difference that separates 4chan and Discord, if we admit that anonymity is a philosophical choice. If everyone is dumping all their posts into a single place it's hard to have good discussions. I've had them quite frequently in single threads and generals but a thread even on /vg/ will only go to 750 posts which seems to be about the buffer length you can expect people to read although most people don't.
But if Discord or some other program organized itself in more of a traditional BBS style, but kept everything else, including instant refresh, then there wouldn't be any difference between it and a web forum. "Endless streams" of information don't matter, only ease of use and organization do. It sounds like you just don't want a fast board, regardless of what is being discussed.

I'm not advocating for Discord, but I do think it does have some good ideas. The backend is just too centralized and the frontend too chaotic. But a clone with decentralized servers and better organization would be a step in the right direction, like a return to Usenet or IRC. If it had anonymity we could replace imageboards entirely. We just need to understand the reasons it work the way it does: because its discussion structure works against it, not because you don't have to hit F5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36786691
If your standards are that low when it comes to what you consider a chatroom, then you might as well argue that forums (remember anti-necroposting rules) and any sort of online communication medium is also a Discord "chatroom".
>Discord archives everything, so it's even better in that regard than 4chan with its week-long archive.
We can use third-party archives for that.
When it comes to reply, you can't do that on Discord since people would see that as weird (and this is important cause there's no anonymity). You also forgot another thing: on 4chan you can reply to a post on an active thread that was made a long time ago, unlike chatrooms. Though exceptions exist, like the generals on /int/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36781649
i wish we could just abandon the usual internet protocols and move onto better horizons like gopher, yggdrasil, or some otber stupid shit but even there you get the same problem oversocialized people bringing their clique drama instead of people just discussing things they're passionate for
>>36781257
it's funny, here he's hated and yet on /g/ there's ass kissers. weird fucking guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>36787237
/g/ also wrote a script to auto-add wojaks.
Their standards and ours probably differ

[Anonymous No.]

back then id be like "lmao lurkmoar retard" but nowadays i have a lot more leniency towards /jp/ and sometimes [s4s] in that these boards are the kind of board someone would lurk if they genuinely want the original anime and trash discussion of way back when.
the answers not very satisfying desu. you just pretty much have to wait until a guy links his startup site or some other community that hits that imageboard vibe.
sadly tho, imageboards are outdated. most sites that are linked here usually slowly die and never come back, but are genuinely really nice places. i wonder if the 4taba guy still comes around here

[Anonymous No.]

Futaba channel.
Thank G*d you fucks can't post there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36781257
No Robert, YOU'RE an awful menace. I read on a website about your cp stuff. kys unironically

[Anonymous No.]

>>36781257
>several lawsuits against him and an active DoJ investigation
sources?

[Anonymous No.]

here they come...

[Anonymous No.]

>>36760388
>>36760669
How did irony (or whatever level of post irony we're at) become the internet status quo anyway? At this point it's not just a wall to hide behind but a default state for some people.
If I had a nickel for every "haha just kidding except not really" type post in the past year alone, I'd be able to pay my fucking bills and then some.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36781131
>mods bully the admin out of ownership
How does that even work?

[Anonymous No.]

Yes but I might get b& for listing them since they're not 4chan. Most of the good ones are not nearly as active as 4chan, some have 1 post every day, others 100, others 10 every hour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36791122
Because elitism. People accusing each other of being from x and y boogeyman site based on the way they typed until you couldn't even type ironically without setting off some sperg.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36790626
>Futaba channel.
>Thank G*d you fucks can't post there.
AHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
wait wait wait WAIT!
AHHAHAHA- ANON! YOU BELIEVE THAT? *Wheeze*

[Anonymous No.]

>>36791158
Yeah, this is the issue. Gatekeeping is great when it's actually based around a common culture, but when it's all just random individuals on their deciding what's acceptable it leads to everyone sticking to regurgitated memes to "prove" they're really from 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36790845
this is the kinda bs people make up to sound like their big. the doj doesnt give a shit about your shitty altchans

[Anonymous No.]

>>36766041
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>36786691
>But a clone with decentralized servers and better organization would be a step in the right direction
That already exists, at least for the decentralized part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36780162
>What's good moderation policy? Too much moderation means that moderators hold a disproportionate amount of input over the users. This isn't necessarily a problem if the moderators are in tune with board culture and user wishes.
This is the only real way though. I won''t deny that it would be difficult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36793976
the decentralized imageboard software seems cool but it'll suffer the same problem as other fediverse software (mastoson and pleroma) where one bad actor can post illegal content and depending on whom interacts with it you could end up seeing it and having it on your server.
other imageboards already have that problem without decentralization, i can't imagine how crazy it'd get with it.
>>36791138
iirc he abused dmca or some other internet legal shit until owners just dipped out as to not deal with the insanity
there's archives on reddit of all places calling out the practice, something regarding gurochan but at the end of the day it's just extremely autistic drama
>>36791944
yeah he's known for making up shit about himself for clout

[Anonymous No.]

>>36750443
Heyuri

[Nipcat No.]

>>36752682
Hello. I'm ex-moderator on heyuri/gurochan and kuz is fucking insane. He lets people post baby porn on his irc and fired me for being a "traitor"
Here's screenshot/picrel. please guys stop supporting him, he's a terrible human being

magi (kuz's friend) used to post "children feet" in the kolyma discord with kuz, and they would joke about him posting more extreme content in private channels

[Anonymous No.]

>>36798225
Actually that guy was talking about Discord, and I had the matrix protocol in mind.
>same problem as other fediverse software (mastoson and pleroma) where one bad actor can post illegal content and depending on whom interacts with it you could end up seeing it and having it on your server
Well, that's a risk you are to take as an operator of a service exposed to the Internet. I don't think there's really a way around it.

[Nipcat !!Hx8xBBTDU4l No.]

>>36798225
>>36763008
>>36781131
>>36798225
Hello. I'm ex-moderator on heyuri/gurochan and kuz is fucking insane. He lets people post baby porn on his irc and fired me for being a "traitor"
Here's screenshot/picrel. please guys stop supporting him, he's a terrible human being

magi (kuz's friend) used to post "children feet" in the kolyma discord with kuz, and they would joke about him posting more extreme content in private channels

[Nipcat !!Hx8xBBTDU4l No.]

>>36798412
Shit sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36798375
>>36798412
>>36798437
>He lets people post baby porn on his irc
I mean who cares? There are pedos on /jp/ as well. What else did he do?

[Nipcat !Yh0dKAG8i. No.]

>>36798460
He says i'm a "12 year old boy."
I tried to tell him that i'm not underage, but he keeps repeating

[Anonymous No.]

I browse the active boards on the webring and the "new" 8ch. I like the smaller nature of the boards and its fun when they get together for gamenights the like.

[Anonymous No.]

I'd take talking to a 12 year old over a furry scum.

[Anonymous No.]

There are several alternatives they're just slow
also why would any normal person post the links here?
nu-chan influx is the last thing needed

[Anonymous No.]

>>36798718
Because they need users. Talking to the same 100 fags where 30 of them do nothing but screech "go back" gets real old.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36798775
then they'll find the site like everyone else
if you had a sudden influx of nu-chan users the sites would become unusable

[Anonymous No.]

>>36798546
you said this in the public #kolyma chat..

[Anonymous No.]

then backtracked minutes later

[Anonymous No.]

>>36798900
Wow, this kid is younger than /jp/

[Nipcat !Yh0dKAG8i. No.]

>>36798874
hey FAGGOT. i was just roleplaying. Fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>36798278
Fuck off kuz

[Anonymous No.]

>>36798966
what is this schizo picture supposed to be

[Anonymous No.]

kuz brings out the schizo in people

[Nipcat !Yh0dKAG8i. No.]

>>36798874
>>36798900
Also why are you keep saying magi is my boyfriend, kuz? I'm in love with moot. Not magi.

[Anonymous No.]

i apologize for bringing up the forbidden imageboard name because now it's basedjack.party autism
this is why people stick to 4chan still, years later

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799078
lol, you literally have to apologize like a sorry dog for bringing it up because the minute you mention it hordes of schizos start shitting up the thread and calling everyone kuz.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36798989
The exact type of summary made by discord normalfags >>36798718 is talking about

[Anonymous No.]

hello i hate kuz too
thanks for listening to my words

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799054
Your fake trip was funny the first time you posted. Just stop

[Anonymous No.]

Kuz is quitting heyuri pretty soon right? Should I move then or no?

Besides him the site itself is pretty good

[Anonymous No.]

>>36780427
what's gg?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799195
gaymergayte

[Nipcat !Yh0dKAG8i. No.]

>>36799134
Your friend is baby pornographer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799195
Good game

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799227
Like the majority of people here

[Anonymous No.]

This thread went to shit real fast.
Kys IRC/Discord dramafags. Take your shit elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799227
And you are the porno he consumes.

[Nipcat !Yh0dKAG8i. No.]

>>36799243
But he had no rights to fire me.

[Nipcat !Yh0dKAG8i. No.]

>>36799261
What do you mean..?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36750443
That kind of freedom doesn't exist in today's americanized internet

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799354
>That kind of freedom
What kind?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799274
so really you are just mad you got "fired" from a fictional company and are making up shit lol

[Nipcat !Yh0dKAG8i. No.]

>>36799422
I LOVED WORKING FOR KOLYMA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799422
Don't reply to an obvious fake trip

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799467
What makes it more real than the first?

[Anonymous No.]

heyuri is fun

ignore teh haterz

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799502
The fact the latter is shit postin-larping in other threads as well. Also it looks like different people with different IPs are using the same trip. He's evading or this is coordianted discord new faggotry. Pick your poison

[Nipcat !Yh0dKAG8i. No.]

>>36799467
What makes you think i'm fake?

[Anonymous No.]

Report niggers for advertising
>>36799519
fuck off

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799574
lol why are you mad

[Anonymous No.]

heyuri and heyuri drama always shits up threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799591
not really. its a fine normal site without any drama on the inside, but schizophrenic pedos from 4-ch and sageru come and shit up any thread that mentions it and call everyone kuz. ive seen like 5 people ITT get called kuz

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799616
No, you dont remember the infighting with the admin lolico and the leaked discord chats that was posted on the site by the admins, that site is nothing but infighting, drama and shit
LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID TO THIS THREAD. If heyuri was good there would be no drama sorrounding it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799687
>if x was good there would be no drama surrounding it
lol, so every single website is bad then? also they didnt do anything, other people starting calling posters kuz after they suggested a site op would like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799687
yeah i remember visiting casually once because i fell for the rampant advertising and there was more meta threads regarding some gay group chat he said she said drama instead of actual posts (not that the actual posts were any better because it was just memes)
it's annoying seeing people bend over backwards for various sites that really are just battlegrounds for chat drama. shit like this is why no other imageboards take off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799687
Sorry anon but there's two kinds of community oriented websites : those that have drama and those that no one uses.

Honestly I don't get it, what's wrong with current jp? People always cry for stringent moderation but I thought the laissez-faire way of being was the whole point.

Sure, we don't have gachi anymore and we have virtual youtubers that used to instantly kill less popular threads but now things are slowly going back to normal.

The internet changed and we have to adapt to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799756
but we slay ponies

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799715
>>36799776
Not really. I don't know how he does it but Hiro seems to be very good at quelling drama (or more accurately, preventing it in the first place). Especially when compared to moot and every altchan owner.

[Anonymous No.]

so the only real "evidence" against kuz is from some 12 year old roleplayer and a 26y antifa pedophile?
>inb4 shut up kuz
I just want to see something worthwhile. Can someone who isnt a retard tell me why he is an asshole/should be avoided?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36800075
check the threads on kissu and world-4ch to see for yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>36800137
link me one that has evidence

[Anonymous No.]

>>36800137
really? those are the most biased sites in existance, its ran by the same /jp/ crowd. You should see what others have to say.

Defending CP spammers is a horrible look

[Anonymous No.]

>>36800191
I'm to lazy sorry. If you are really interested then you can check yourself
>>36800247
>Defending CP spammers is a horrible look
but I'm not defending kuz or 2kike

[Anonymous No.]

>>36750443
22chan.org
It may be a little slow, but it has a lot of potential. The owner is constantly looking over the site, the mods aren't maniacs, you can have good discussion with cool anons and acting like a retard/normalfaggotry/dramashit is discouraged, looked down upon and sanctioned. Porn/gore is a no-go, though. The site goes for more of a "comfy" style

[Anonymous No.]

>>36800344
>I'm to lazy sorry. If you are really interested then you can check yourself
Cmon man.. really? The thing is it just doesnt exist. I only ever see fluff

[Anonymous No.]

>>36800346
>How We Use Information About You
>Monitor and analyze trends, usage, and activities in connection with our Services;
>How Information About You Is Shared
>To enforce our policies and rights. We may share information if we believe your actions are inconsistent with our user agreements, rules, or other 22chan policies, or to protect the rights, property, and safety of ourselves and others.
>Aggregated or de-identified information. We may share information about you that has been aggregated or anonymized such that it cannot reasonably be used to identify you.
Is this just for the sake of appearances, or are they serious about this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36800502
WTF

That site is a fucking honeypot

[Anonymous No.]

>>36800415
okay I checked those sites again just for you. So, assuming that you are not kuz or one of his cronies, then here you go:
https://4-ch.net/general/kareha.pl/1574839327 (starts with reply 75)
https://kissu.moe/qa/res/4165 (you need to check the archived threads in the OP)
also you can try searching kuz name in warosu for more stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>36800502
It's probably outdated legal shit from when the site still used google captcha. That and to prevent doxxshit, I think
>>36800517
>That site is a fucking honeypot
A Honeypot for what? Autists? It doesn't even have /pol/ (Not anymore, at least. Fucking Germans)

[Anonymous No.]

>>36800728
Ive seen that first thread. and i took a brief look at kissu. No im not kuz or at all related to him.

So the most damning thing of what ive read is that he is a copyright troll, assuming thats true. I cant find anything else in there that is really worthwhile. I saw some people calling him a "monopoly" or saying he wants to take over all imageboards.. which is ridiculously silly. Is that what your talking about?

Is it because he owns a hosting company which he indirectly controls his sites with? But then again people there are saying hes just a harmless neet in his basement.

Is it the (unfounded/unsourced) claims that he sells data? To who lol? and what data? IP addresses of guro fetishists?

Is it the domain seizures? Considering he is just a neet he cant really seize domains, stop treating him like he is some all powerful dictator who can just seize domains from multinational corporations like namecheap.

Is it the lolicon that he hosts? I could understand that

These are the reasons i drew from those places. Am i missing anything? Are these why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36800837
>No im not kuz or at all related to him.
I find it really hard to believe, but if you really are just some random dude then stay away from altchans. They are full of legit schizophrenics and attention whoring drama queens. It's not worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36800937
Of course you find it hard to believe. Because anyone who dares to not critisize him or kolyma is just a paid agent. It reminds me of the "Russians are hacking our election!!1" bs of 2016. and of course you dont even reply to the meat of my reply. No reasons, just fluff

[Anonymous No.]

>>36800956
it's more like because most people defending him come out of woodwork and push aside any evidence like "ok i don't see how it's bad can you give me REAL evidence"
like, what does one gain from it? you aren't allowed to just think this kind of shit is fucking stupid unless it's true and honest and verified? i don't care about who seizes what domain i'm just sick of this faggotry, shits been going on for a year now

[Anonymous No.]

>>36801064
So the reason you shit up threads is because he is a copyright troll? Thats the only reason? What do you gain from shitting up these threads every moment you get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36801120
kuz bad. do not question the narrative or you are kuz

[Anonymous No.]

It sucks, but the good parts of 4chan were a product of the 00's, and you had other sites like LUElinks with a similar culture. Some of these sites are still around, but they either changed into something different like 4chan and SA, or they stayed the same and bled users like GameFAQs. I like GameFAQs still but it's not as fun when it's so tiny nowadays. If your site doesn't keep up with changes in the net then it stops getting new users and the population ages and stagnates.

4chan as it is now works pretty well. The only issue is that big boards often leak out and dominate the smaller ones. For instance I remember 3+ years ago, /trv/ used to be like a different site with people who could tell you what some place like Angola or Mongolia is actually like and tell you what to check out there, whereas now there's more stuff like >>>/trv/2116653 where people only want to argue politics or discuss cultural stereotypes. It bums me out because the board used to be about looking past stereotypes, but now it focuses on them a lot. But, well, that's how centralization works. Every exciting new domain of things seems to centralize over time. It's too bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36750443
Why is annoyed Reimu so funny to look at?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36803132
Because it's hot and funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>36800346
that site is utter garbage. besides ripping off all of their "culture" from other imageboards (kissu, gnfos, heyuri, kohlchan..), the admin is a fucking lunatic. He slaps his name on absolutely everything there. He is egotism to the extreme, his "undercover" posts, the links to his social media everywhere, his multiple shitty blogs, etc

its just so cringey

[Anonymous No.]

>>36803966
another thing is that literally nothing there works without JS. Even the boardlinks and titles of stuff is dependant on JS. The software is slow and poorly designed too

[Anonymous No.]

>>36780565
every attempt has failed

[Anonymous No.]

>>36752885
Lack of smartphones meant you couldn't post low effort ad-honimemes while attending a lecture or taking a shit in the toilet.

[Anonymous No.]

Accept that that which once was is never coming back again and either move on or transition into a yurei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36798775
This is a big part of things. I think I said it upthread (my short-term memory sucks sorry) but there's a fine line between cultural preservation and paranoia over new people that sites really struggle with. In my view new people should definitely be welcomed as long as they're not malicious and the only issue is when a large group arrives at once, which almost never happens. It's good to have new people around, even if they're half your age. There's just a limit to how many people you can assimilate at once and that's why people would be resistant in namedropping their stuff on a 4chan thread specifically asking for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36808557
>definitely be welcomed as long as they're not malicious
But they have been this for years?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799195
Giovanni Giorgio

[Anonymous No.]

>>36803966
https://nss.kolyma.org/
>Kolyma's Network Security Service is the leading security group on the runet. The NSS is tasked with a variety of tasks, such as monitoring dangerous users, cooperating with the surveillance office to collect and catalog information on certain users, remove internal and external threats, and ensure the social integrity of the whole of the Kolyma Network.
>cooperating with the surveillance office to collect and catalog information
Heyuri is such a great place, can't wait to post there

[Anonymous No.]

>>36810414
git gud

[Anonymous No.]

>>36812585
What does that have to do with Heyuri?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36812638
https://www.kolyma.org/about
>KolymaNET now focuses more on Bulletin Boards. Some popular websites under the KolymaNET Umbrella include Gurochan, Heyuri, and what little remains of 9channel.
Has everything to do with heyuri, if you say anything mean, (even if you dont) you get your data collected and sent to the feds

[Anonymous No.]

>>36808557
>It's good to have new people around, even if they're half your age
As long as those kids are willing to lurk and learn, then sure that's a fine notion. Speaking of which, I wonder how often lurk more is being said nowadays on this site compared to before "those" events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36813632
From my own experience only people trying to fit in or delusional olfag returners say that here. The damage can't be undone

[Anonymous No.]

>>36752885
Quality content.
Though what the other anons don't realize is that the internet as a whole turned to shit, not just 4chan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36813684
>The damage can't be undone
Maybe not for the entire site, but you can still fight the good fight in maintaining board/thread quality. You don't have to be an elder god oldfag to recognize an outsider and tell them to lurk. Whether or not they actually do so is another matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36750443
awful thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36790626
I'd like to see you stop me

[Anonymous No.]

>>36814196
to be fair, it started with actual good advice on how to (potentially) build active and quality imageboards, then devolved into irrelevant altchan drama because newfags can't help themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36790422
>twitter filename
>lmao
>desu
>tho
Please stop pretending you belong here

[Anonymous No.]

>>36814357
Most artists post their arts there. I don't think a Twitter filename is enough of a proof.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36813684
Sadly I must agree with this overall, but I'm sure there are still corners of 4chan out there where it can work. Not so much the "lurk 2 years" thing, but "please don't post ___ in this thread" comment here or there can work. The catch, of course, is that you need the person to actually have an interest in the thread and not just be in it to do the cool 4chan "shitpost" thing, which is generally what attracts people here to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36760388
>The main issue with people making imageboards is that 99% of the time they build the scaffolding (the website itself) and then expect other people to create the building (the content)
That's the issue with tech people in general (I'm one of them so I know it well). We know some tech, so we think tech is the hard part, so we do some tech. Same shit with games, everyone wants to build something like Unity, nobody has any idea of what makes an actual good game. Nobody knows how to build a good community. If it's public it's going to be invaded, if it's private it's going to be full of power-tripping and gatekeeping fags. The only thing you have left is obscurity, but obscurity doesn't last, and leads to either popularity or a dead community.
I guess what I'm getting at is that communities don't last. Trying to get back old 4chan is like trying to get back your youth

[Anonymous No.]

>>36779946
>Ideally you'd want something like Discord but P2P and decentralized, with encryption and anonymization. Who is going to make it though?
Already exists except for the anonymization, but you could probably making something for it https://matrix.org/

[Anonymous No.]

>>36760773
>>36760875
I think there's something to be said about forums vs instant messaging culture. You can do both on imageboards, and the one you posted is a good example of forum culture. Longer posts, more delay between posts, posts are more substantial, less inflammatory. People usually try to steelman their arguments and all that sort of thing. Possibly something about blogging vs microblogging too. I think most people wanting the "old internet" back want something like forum culture.
A way to do that would be to artificially introduce delays to posts. For example, you're only allowed a 2 hour posting window a day, or one post by thread a day, something like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>36766729
That may be just me, but I don't care about strong moderation as long as it mostly aligns with how I think the website should be run. I do care about anonymity, and people using Discord or Reddit don't care at all. Both have ways to show you that the people your are talking to are first-class citizens, and you are not. That's what makes a culture of power-tripping mods

[Anonymous No.]

>>36816670
You people are just incompetent at maintaining quality, because aside from your lack of skills, none of you ever cared enough to do anything about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36817127
What can you do about it other than acting as a gatekeeper when your own mods and admin prioritize traffic over quality?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36817127
It's a common human flaw. "If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail". Politics people think we can solve everything with politics, science people think we can solve everything with science, tech people think we can solve everything with tech, but nothing works perfectly on a fundamental human issue. Maintaining a standard of quality in a group, without it being abusive, known enough to attract interesting people, but not enough to attract normies, with moderation to ensure that everything goes well, but not too much to avoid abuse, is really fucking hard. Especially in these times where information flows so fast. The Roman Empire is gone, joining the Freemasons or mensa or some shit is probably useless, 4chan has been dead for X years, high school friends move on. That's just the way life is

[Anonymous No.]

>>36816949
The only thing I hated about forums is the whole clique drama, lack of anonymity and the feeling of social navigation to preserve your reputation/image in the face of others (i.e. "Should I make this post? Should I tell this guy that? What are the consquences?" etc.).
Discord and Skype have managed to take the worst of forum culture and mix it with instant messaging culture. It's so fucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36817292
I feel the same. I think that's because most people want/crave recognition, reputation, so people like us are a bit like outcasts. And since everything is getting more and more centralized, this means the spaces for people like us shrink

[Anonymous No.]

>>36817478
Yeah many of the shit that people do in forums and chatrooms that would look like attentionwhoring to us is normal, expected and almost subconscious behaviour there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36817292
I remember reading a post on another image board about a guy who was kicked out of a forum he had been a part of for years, cause he got in an argument with the "queen" so to speak and her loyal band of simps would not suffer that and had him banned. Guy had a really bad existential crises since his whole identity was tied to that place for nearly a decade.
really dove in the point for me to never get emotionally invested in a place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36750443
sorry dont want to tell you

[Anonymous No.]

>>36750443
You'll make Reimu sad if you leave this place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36781649
>You will never get back the "old Internet" you nerds keep lamenting about.
The number of these lamenting nerds is higher than the nerds that are actually willing to participate in old internet, many of the latter being the sort that don't care to lament, just too old to move on from their IRC, ICB, e-mail, and message board communities. Imageboards will probably never be good again since by design they have no barrier to entry. You don't even have to learn about noko anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned crystal cafe. Not as an alternative but I like to go on there sometimes and mess with those bitter cunts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36826227
It's mostly trannies instead of true and honest women so it's not really the same, like you could get the same experience just shitposting on /lgbt/
One time I got banned for posting some really pink, girly, moe image though on the basis for it being a "male poster image" which was pretty funny

[Anonymous No.]

When this place dies I am done with the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36826227
What are they doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36826227
it's super slow. in that it's not active, but also in that pages take forever to load

[Anonymous No.]

>>36827846
this >>36826310 it's just a bunch of trannies and a few forever alone fat girls who are angry at the world cause no one wants to fuck them which makes them very easy to rile up and it's always funny to smack a beehive. Think a cross between /lgbt/ and /r9k/

[Anonymous No.]

>>36826227
I've checked that place out a few times and honestly I have no idea how people can browse it, even if just to mess with its posters. It's straight-up probably one of the most depressing places I think I've seen online. It makes me immensely uncomfortable.

Your average depressed NEET on /jp/ seems like a pillar of optimism and happiness compared to the posters there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36829231
You can't just say that and not post screenshots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36829338
Take a look for yourself, I don't think it's really something you can capture with a single image. "girls" or not most of the people there just seem completely broken. Daddy issues/taken advantage of/insecurity or whatever else threads are a dime a dozen, it's a genuinely sad sight. Imagine the most depressing post about somebody's life on /jp/ you've seen, crank it up to 20 and that's basically your average thread there. The manhate is also way worse than how your average person here sees 3DPD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36829338
It's bad form to export posts from one community or another for the purpose of laughing at them. At it's core it's not really much different from posting 4chan screenshots to reddit for upvotes. People who want to look at things should go there themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36751375
something awful nowadays is completely different from old something awful. now the biggest shitposters are twitter famous and podcast celebrities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36750833
the issue is that you can't take your "core community" with you to a new imageboard because you actually don't know anyone. that's the issue with anonymous boards and why you can't recreate what people had going on at /jp/ or any of the other boards. the regulars that did form the culture stew grew out of /jp/ and left, organically forming their own small communities of known online friends atop twitter or whatever. and for good reason, there's no way to forge meaningful relationships without going out of your way and identifying yourself.

you can try making a new imageboard though, there are tons of alternatives to explore and it looks like a lot of fun, but don't expect people to post there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36829415
So it's just /cgl/

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any good manga boards?

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ died when moot made the sticky about Katawa Shoujo belonging to the board. Everything else after that was noise and the board should have been deleted along with the entire website then and there. Currently it seems like it's nothing but generals and teens posting about their favorite mainstream Vtubers, and some 2hu imagedump, literally zero content and zero reason to exist. I'm sure that even the mods and janitors in this place weren't here before 2012.

And >>1, if you don't know at this point, you SHOULDN'T know. The people running spin-offs don't want people that are still stuck here in this day and age there.
Also, OG, and 2016. Sorry but there isn't a single spinoff on the interwebz that wants you, maybe you should give Reddit a try.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36781443
>delete /pol/
This, put it out of it's misery. At least old /pol/ used to create OC and funny pranks, all they do nowadays is being a more retarded and schizophrenic spinoff of /x/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36826227
Why would I want to talk to women/"women" in any capacity? I only want to talk to fellow little girls on the jay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36750443
From what I gathered ye olden 4chan was largely underage. I bet there isn't even a single person on this site right now under the age of 18 which I surmise was the age when they considered epic and win as words to use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36833356
The spin-offs don't want you, reddit sucks, /jp/ has jannies and has been dead longer than I've been here.
Shit sux if you are a teen I guess. Well, I haven't been a teen for a while anyway.
Well, I guess the only thing I can do is compensate for all of that.

[Anonymous No.]

We couldnt even save /jp/ from vtubers despite them having their own board now

[Anonymous No.]

>>36833900
did they finally manage to come up with a spinoff that's not shit or is it just the same old no-longer-teenbro circlejerking as always

[Anonymous No.]

>>36834062
probably not and they are not gonna
those boards are just as bad as this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>36790626
try harder

[Anonymous No.]

a lot of people probably don't think very highly of them but I wish the /jp/ spinoffs born out of the 2013 shitpost era weren't all virtually or literally dead, especially since I think their decline was mostly caused by their respective admins doing a super shit job rather than just people naturally leaving out of loss of interest

[Anonymous No.]

>>36826227
no. I hate women

[Anonymous No.]

>>36833900
>The spin-offs don't want you
Wizchan is pretty comfy. Just don't talk about women and you're good
>/jp/ has jannies
yet they're completely useless most of the time. Only the active generals have their own resident jannies and they're still shit at their job

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>36814216
no, it's a real-time demonstration of why ``spin-offs'' don't work

the entire idea anyway of creating restrictions and barriers to recreate something that developed because it was open and unregulated is laughable on its face
people act as if old /jp/ or old /b/ or whatever the fuck you're memorializing was some haven of quality when the latter was 98% shitposts all the time, and the former 98% after about the first year or so. this board at least has been archived for the entirety of its existence so I don't know how you can let yourself get deluded like that
>>36835895
>I wish all these shitty boards run by shitty people in an extremely shitty way weren't all dead
ftfy

[Anonymous No.]

>>36836205
this is it. This is the truth. I've been here practically the whole time and I have lived it. It's always been shit. From day one. Whatever golden age you think you have in your head you're wrong and you know what? One day you will see newfags come here and retardedly claim that 4chan was great during this time and scream about how, in their present,everything has gone to shit. I remember when 2010-12 was considered an irredeemable hellscape and now I've watched anons unironically claim everything before the 2016 shitfest was heaven on earth. It was always shit: from day one when moot farted it out of his cunt and it will always be shit until this website finally gets shut down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36837300
Would you rather go back to pre election or see things get worse, if given the chance? Because everything isn't always the same. I think there is value in preserving the status quo, preventing things from getting any worse. Yes ok there's a nice dumpster here, it doesn't matter if I now set it on fire because it sucks, right? Yes it does, it will give you cancer by breathing its emissions. I get it: you're pointing out things weren't as good as everyone remembered back then, but saying things now aren't any worse is just apathy and you are being as wrong as everybody else who claims nowadays 4chan is ok as it is because it was shitty back then too

[Anonymous No.]

>>36837300
it was never good, but it wasn't always a mechanical repository of "general" threads like the other guy said. it was kinda like this, people complaining about the state of /jp/ and a bunch of people making shitpost threads by the fucking hour until moot dragged a bunch of janitors and started nuking every meta thread and offtopic thread into oblivion to make way for touhou generals and AKB generals and then it was kinda boring. It was never good, yeah but what imageboard was? And yet you're here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36837975
>>36838007
I'm not saying things are good now, far from it. I certainly don't mean they're the same as before, the level of just shit has gotten much worse over the years and there is some truth to things being better back in the old days. My point simply is that they mainly seem good through rose colored lenses. This place has always been shitty, it is shitty now, and they will be continue to get shittier in the future. The biggest point I was trying to drive home was that one day people will think this shit right now was some golden age while we're here in the present bitching about it and wishing for some perfect yesteryear that didn't really exist. That's my point

[Dyuri !!5AXlM8t2S+B No.]

>>36757546
I can be your tripfriend if you want UwU

[Dyuri !!5AXlM8t2S+B No.]

>>36756695
>send requests to the feds)(dox the mods and send the data to antifa
Plot twist - mods were the feds all along, also they have already seen all the stuff you would find to post

[Anonymous No.]

>>36838428
I guess an interesting thought experiment would be: how can we make an imageboard that preserves the essence of 4chan as it is at this very moment?
If we take the assumption that the trend will continue and things will keep getting shittier into the foreseeable future, this hypothetical "clone" would actually be better than the 4chan of tomorrow.
Of course the answer is most probably "that's impossible" but it's something to think about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36814357
Read >>36780671

[Anonymous No.]

>>36798377
Matrix protocol is very good. I see it blowing up in the near future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36839281
>Of course the answer is most probably "that's impossible"
It is interesting to think about and in my opinion it's impossible because inherently people are the problem. At first finding and getting the people to come to your alternative then imagine you could somehow make the comfiest, best imageboard imaginable. For example let's just say the ideal version of /jp/. Where all the threads are on topic/quality, lots of oc, and great discussions/memes, etc. Eventually the outside world is going to find out about it and then it's just a matter of time before it's mass flooded with faggots pushing their own bullshit like discord trannies, pol/nazis faggots, off topic shitposters, and just fucking idiots from shitholes like reddit or restera. I reckon their could be a small window that is a true golden era where you have enough quality people that posts and threads moves quickly enough but the internet at large doesn't know anything about it yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799616
What the fuck is heyuri and kuz?

[Anonymous No.]

>>36839467
I heard self hosting it is not easy. I never tried it myself however. There's also the fact that it's most functional client is a broken webapp discord clone, which doesn't do it any favors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36750443
why should anyone spoonfeed a retard that wasn't there at the time and/or can't find it by themselve?
So you can bring your dirty ass in there and corrupt it? Anyway 4chan wouldn't be as bad if newfaggotry was called out harder and proper behavior was enforced, obviously having a retarded moderation also help newfag fucking up the site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36838428
/jp/ is in a golden age. Or a silver one at least. It's not spam 24/7, nor being raided all the time. It's not under the tyranny of the mods, nor completely lawless until 7 pages are deleted at once. People actually talk about otaku shit even if half of the people cry about the other half. /jp/ just suffers from being a board that wants to be a discussion board while a loud contingent wants it to be /s4s/ or something. /vg/'s creation might as well have killed old /jp/ but seeing what /vg/ evolved to just illustrates how shit /jp/ is. You could argue /r9k/, /bant/, /s4s/, and previously /qa/ were the result of /jp/, as well as all the shitty spinoffs by people who wanted to blog and make various kinds of shitposts. You could also argue the general threads here are a result of /jp/ taking "condense your posts" too seriously. I'm personally thankful most of the nutcases are gone as well. The ones who would freak out about moderation existing and post shit just because they wanted it to be deleted. Like, what has to be wrong with you to hide a cat in an image, then report it until it gets deleted, so you can be banned and then go laugh about it in ghost posts on the archive as if the mods saw it and got angry? I hope they're okay and aren't in an asylum somewhere.

If there's any problem with /jp/ it's that there's more and more frogposting. Although frogposting is itself a hilarious tale from being used to express good feelings to being used to express bad feelings to being used to shitpost, to NORMIES REE, to being used to shitpost even harder against mutant wojack cancer, to being nazi frog of keks, to being a shitpost against mods, to just being a shitpost people use to mark their post/thread as not being worth reading. The 'normies ree' cancer is especially funny since the frogs are what normalfags use to fit in now. There's even some mutant frog now to go along with mutant wojacks and mutant spurdos. That and there aren't anymore self-depreciating creative otaku types, just modern casual otaku, for lack of a better word, "cumbrains." There's got to be a japanese name for them that can be used.

I wish nostalgiafags would just move on already so /jp/ could come up with some new content for once. Or that people would stop being pussies and just make threads about whatever they want. They can make the same "I miss u /jaypee/" metathreads over and over, but not threads about some VN or doujin game they like. The reason idolfags have so many threads is because they actually have motivation to keep on even if they're the only poster in their thread, like that sad band-maid faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36840288
>/jp/ is in a golden age
you can't be fucking serious

[Anonymous No.]

>>36840375
What would make /jp/ golden to you. State it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36839591
Heyuri is an imageboard about old 4chan culture and kuz is its owner

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799195
Giorno Giovanna

[Anonymous No.]

>>36750443
>From what I gathered ye olden 4chan was largely underage.
Kind of accurate. The web was for newfags in the 90s. All the oldfags back then were hiding out on mailing lists and e-mail laughing because the newfags didn't know anything on the internet outside of the web existed. So a lot of the early web culture was people that first logged on way after eternal September.

By the year 2000 most forums and by extension I assume imageboards were a mix of
-underage teens and pre-teens
-of age teens and 20-somethings in college
-30-50 year old lonely adults

The latter group seemed to stick to places like AOL. While the first two tended to use everything and things spread quickly via word of mouth between them. All that happened is around 2009 a lot of people moved from their home forums and boards to the major social networks. The forums were de-ranked from search engine results in favor of places like youtube, twitter, MSM websites, reddit, and other centralized services. They cut out the independent middle man (forum owners). Instead of paying forum owners to run targeted ads for embedding Google adsense they just herded all the users into sites they or their ad partner's controlled. If you think it wasn't done by design you're kidding yourself.

The difference between the early-mid 2000s and now is this: Back then you found out about places like this via word of mouth from a friend, an open chat room, or from some post on a forum with a few hundred active users. Now the typical newfag's first exposure to this place is via things like youtube videos or screenshots posted on social media. A lower quality type of person is drawn here and the type of content they provide is different. Instead of long rambling posts like this one or some original image OC you get short one-line posts or pictures taken for attention whoring purposes. What takes more effort? Making a 3 minute flash animation with original music, voice acting, and characters or posting a webm of your tits? People go for the low effort option.

The old times simply can't exist now. The world changed. The people changed. All we can do is look back on it fondly and have faith that comfy times might happen again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36840790
I mean it's Like talking about a "Russian" golden age

[Anonymous No.]

>>36841245
Kuz thinks imageboards are a "business". Right now he thinks he's really powerful because he brought back gurochan, which is the only successful board he's ever owned since it has a pre-existing userbase with nowhere else to go. He basically wants every old board that still exists to join his shady webring. He's also retarded as fuck and spams tons of IRC/discord servers, making tons of enemies along the way, all the while pretending he's some smart businessman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36814208
wwwwww nao turai posu za thuredo fageto

[Anonymous No.]

>>36841450
>He basically wants every old board that still exists to join his shady webring
I seem to remember some drama involving something similar like 15 years ago with the guy even hijacking 4chans dns and holding it hostage and moot not giving a shit and simply telling the guy that what he wants was dumb and he's going to eat soup instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36814357
Can't forget "vibe" and "genuinely"

[Anonymous No.]

>>36841450
>Kuz thinks imageboards are a "business".
Did he say this?

>Right now he thinks he's really powerful because he brought back gurochan
Isnt gurochan owned by some other guy?

>He basically wants every old board that still exists to join his shady webring
Post link to the webring pls

[Anonymous No.]

>>36817229
>What can you do about it other than acting as a gatekeeper when your own mods and admin prioritize traffic over quality?
That's just your perception because what you want to talk about is allowed. If some janny sent you on a 3 day vacation every time you wanted to talk about something that there's no good other board to talk about it you'd think they were strict assholes. This board has a storied history of shit being arbitrarily declared "not otaku culture" because a mod didn't like it. Remember when we could have Japan photo threads that didn't need to be hyper-specific like Aizuwakamatsu? Not that that's not unique to /jp/, "off-topic" is just code for "janny druthers".
>>36829435
>It's bad form to export posts from one community or another for the purpose of laughing at them.
Says who? Portal of Evil is classic old internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36841920
>Says who? Portal of Evil is classic old internet.
If your website's purpose is specifically just that, then sure. Otherwise this type of posting gets annoying very quickly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36799195
Guilty Gear

[Anonymous No.]

>>36841650
>Isnt gurochan owned by some other guy?
Kaguya runs it right now but Kuz still forces him to use his shitty software and plans to market his websites on gurochan, which will drive out the small userbase it currently has. Kuz's stupid ass drama has been killing the site, while shitholes like r/guro have been growing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36842279
Oh fucking hell lmao, you are straitjakit. Fuck off bud, r/guro is literally the most tame shit imaginiable. Gurochan is growing, almost 400 posts per day at this point.

https://wiki.guro.cx/index.php/Straitjakit

You lost, you will never own gurochan

[Anonymous No.]

>>36842337
Nah, he's right. Never trust a Vatnik.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36842435
>>36842279
samefag

[Anonymous No.]

>>36842460
Never trust a Vatnik.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you guys just shut up and allow people to discuss things without your boring gossip and attention whoring? No one outside your circle of friends cares about your buddies and dropping names 50,000 times across imageboards will never make you more important than a random anonymous guy.
To 4chan /jp/ people: these guys are not the norm. There are good imageboards out there, but much like 4chan there are also bad people and bad imageboards. Don't let these people convince you that they're all like that. Hell, the good thing is that they get moderated instead of being the norm.

>>36840288
I guess it's a generation gap thing, but I just can't handle everything being 'chad' or 'tranny' and the other modern teenager speak alongside my escapism. /jp/ is certainly and undoubtedly better than other 4chan boards, but it still has all the trapping of a 4chan board nonetheless. I think this is a major thing that happens to people as they get older, they still want to talk to people that experienced the same things and that doesn't work on 4chan which has a revolving door demographic. The issue, of course, is that people spread out and I suppose that's already been discussed to death in this thread.
Would you mind linking the threads that you like? The doujin music thread I saw a few days ago was really nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>36842477
Do you even know what that word means you dumb larper

[Anonymous No.]

>>36842526
The person who pays you does. ;)

[Anonymous No.]

>>36842337
Obvious kuzpost is obvious, leave gurochan alone you conartist faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>36842496
sitting reimu was okay. not that anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>36842496
Sitting Reimu and tears in the rain are the only good recent threads.
Others are either toxic waste or image dumps of different flavors.
t. not that anon

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>>36842541
>>36842544
The truth is you never cared about gurochan. Only weirdo power fantasies. As you can see its booming and all you do is seethe because you dont have control.

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>>36842496
Name some good spinoffs then

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>>36842577
moekyunkyun

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>>36835895
>Only the active generals have their own resident jannies and they're still shit at their job
Half the generals on 4chan think the janny personally stalks their thread but the overwhelming majority of the time it's not true in the slightest and janny actually hates the whole thread for being fags. The reason active generals get more moderation is because the people in them report brigade everything they don't like and it floats to the top of the queue.

>>36838007
>it was never good, but it wasn't always a mechanical repository of "general" threads like the other guy said
The general era we're all living in now was a direct reaction to the shitposter era. Old /jp/ was always a balance between "community" and "on-topic discussion" but when the community became so shit that shitposters would invade completely irrelevant on-topic threads, the mods diagnosed it as terminally ill and euthanized it. There were plenty of /jp/sies who supported it at the time because it wasn't getting better. You can't go home again.

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Why would anyone use an imageboard that isnt 4chan. they are all dead

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>>36842569
You make it obvious it's you when you boast about how gurochan has hundreds of posts per day (which is a total lie, /g/ gets maybe 20 image posts per day, all the other boards get 2 posts every other day). I say this as somebody who used to regular /f/ in its prime, you are killing the site.

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>>36842615
The automated counter doesnt lie.

https://stat.kolyma.org

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>>36842624
isn't it getting 26 posts per day

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>>36842663
cool inspect element

not to mention its like 2pm

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>>36842663
straitjakit inspecting and editing these pages like we wouldnt notice...

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>>36842681
>>36842698
lmao all i did was click on your fucking link, it's not my fault your stats tracker apparently shits itself on a regular basis. i don't give a fuck about guro either way. you have my IP you know where i live and it's probably not where you think your retarded boogieman does.

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>>36842577
I can't. Giving a link on a 4chan board can lead to a problem on a small board, even if the people don't intend it to cause harm.
Here's a big link of stuff you can look at. Maybe look at Japanese-related names? https://github.com/ccd0/imageboards.json
There's two simple text sites with a list of them:
https://imageboards.net/
http://chanverse.uwu.mx/
I think you'll have fun if you go searching. If a site you load up is bad, don't let it discourage you. Keep searching and maybe you'll find something you really enjoy. And of course, don't expect 4chan speeds.

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>>36842698
>>36842735
also i went to /f/ to check it manually and unless there's tons of new posts hidden in deeply saged generals, there's definitely less than five posts in the last days combined, and these tables are retarded.

again, i don't give a shit about your board even a little bit. my interest top out at light ryona. i just went to look at the numbers because there was a dispute where at least one person was being a massive faggot and i was wondering which one it was.

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>>36842569
Again, you're speaking to two different people.
>>36842624
I thought you retarded Kolyma shills claimed to have more boards than that.
>>36842698
Your "control the conversation" tactic isn't working.

This whole conversation is retarded. Ban everyone involved including myself.

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>>36842735
>>36842762
>>36842765

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>>36842765
No, they never claimed that. Its a lie spread by actual retards who think kuz owning 2 sites (gurochan and heyuri) means he is literally owning every single imageboard

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>>36842768
Never trust a Vatnik.

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>>36842776
wow dude you can inspect element. you have demonstrated this ability already

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>>36842786
lmao just visit the fucking board and count for yourself. how many posts were made on /f/ in the last 24 hours?

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>>36842786
Cope.

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>>36842800
>>36842814
the tried and true samefag tactic "make 2 posts at the exact same time with different ips to throw them off"

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Holy shit fuck off.

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>>36842825
i'm posting from my car lol
take the L

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>>36842825
yes, yes, we're all the same person, and also definitely that one person you hate. we also did 9/11 and assassinated JFK.

now, could you stop for one second, and just answer a very simple question: how many new posts were made in the last 24 hours on this board here? https://boards.guro.cx/f/

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>>36842840
How the fuck am I supposed to know? am i supposed to look in every single thread and check for which posts are saged?

>>36842832
>>36842837
>>36842840
What makes it so obvious is how you come out of nowhere and all start posting at the exact same time (seconds after eachother), talking the same way, using the exact same terminology, etc. Its really easy to tell

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Could all the mentally ill gurofags simply fuck off from this board and go hold their weekly drama session elsewhere?

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>>36842865
>How the fuck am I supposed to know? am i supposed to look in every single thread and check for which posts are saged?
there's THREE pages, dude. threads are sorted by date. it took me less than thirty seconds to exhaustively search the board for posts made on 10/5 or 10/4.

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>>36842865
Cope.

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there were over 20 submissions for the guro-tan contest for what its worth

>>36842880
what are you even trying to prove, we get it, you can inspect element

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>>36842887
okay that's real nice and all now but could you help me answer a very simple question: how many new posts were made in the last 24 hours on this board here? https://boards.guro.cx/f/

there's only three pages and you can ctrl-f for today's and yesterday's dates on all three pages in less than 30 seconds of your time. think of all the time you could save not having this conversation!

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>>36842887
You keep saying "inspect element" when anyone with eyes can tell that it's a mobile screenshot. Never trust a Vatnik.

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>>36842903
keep repeating the same things like a broken record. doesnt help the fact you are a power hungry freak that made up weird and easily disprovable myths for attention.

>>36842901
you would have to enter every thread

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>>36842917
>you would have to enter every thread
you definitely don't have to fucking enter every thread because threads are internally sorted by date with the newest posts at the bottom and surfaced to the index. you only have to enter threads where there are 5+ posts from today or yesterday to count the total.

why don't you tell me how many of those threads there are? would take you less than thirty seconds.

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>>36842917
You can't keep this "all my haters are one boogeyman" shtick forever.

>you would have to enter every thread
Are you retarded?

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>>36842941
Nor can you keep up this obvious samefag forever. Lets see who goes first

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Thread is over fuck off all of you.

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>>36842947
okay that's real nice and all now but could you help me answer a very simple question: how many new posts were made in the last 24 hours on this board here? https://boards.guro.cx/f/

to save you the trouble of searching every thread, i'll let you count every thread where posts from the last 24 hours fill up the index as having 100,000 new posts, so you don't have to go in and count.

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>>36842947
Interesting that you pick the easier post first, instead of the more insightful post at >>36842938 that was made 10 seconds earlier.

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>>36842966
desu you could always stop talking to him and giving him the lazy out

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>>36842953
No u

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>>36842966
>>36842974
actually based on post times running each over might be unavoidable

it's very sad

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>>36842998
Ok bye.

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>>36843008
Now that he's gone, I can call him a faggot all I want and he won't be able to retaliate! Nyahahahahafufufufufurururururuuu~

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Mostly unrelated to the conversation at hand because idgaf about gurochan, but I do know about straitjakit because this same drama has been plastered over multiple threads before.

Theres no way that some huge grassroots movement just spawned to shit on anything distantly related to kuz everytime its mentioned, its obvious that there are maybe 3-4 people who have a vested interest in hating kuz/kuz projects. As far as gurochan goes thats just straitjakit, who got banned from r/guro and encyclopedia dramatica because of his rampant dramafagging.

His completely retarded claims of "data-harvesting" and kuz "disabling https" and "putting malware ads on the site", the latter 2 are both easily disprovable (lol), have completed disparaged any potentially real accusations.

So really I think someone here should personally talk to kuz, and ask him. Instead of these pointless convos full of finger pointing and "y-your a samefag", an adult conversation could be had between two identities. Not that anyone on an altchan would ever be mature enough to do such a thing..

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>>36843060
I really know nothing about this drama and personally appreciate the fact that someone brought back gurochan after its year-long absence, but the way Kuz acts is fishy. I've seen him spamfuck the azumanga server multiple times, so seeing him act like some responsible guy that's never done anything wrong makes him very hard to trust.

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Attaching a Cirno image won't make me interested in your gossip, dude. You guys really don't seem to understand the whole 'anonymous' thing.
Anyway, anyone interested in imageboards please give this stuff a look >>36842741
Maybe explore 5 boards a day if it seems overwhelming. The internet is out there.

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>>36843093
attaching a bird spaghetti image doesnt make you an oldfag, teenbro

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>>36843101
what about japanese dog jumping through hoops

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>>36843152
What about /jp/, I gotta fart super bad!?

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>>36843161
i have no butt and i must shite

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>>36843101
I don't organize my images so I just grabbed something that isn't NSFW after I landed somewhere in the folder. I did not mean to offend you.
I kind of wish I was a teenbro, though. They're in their mid 20s now instead of approaching 40.

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>>36843315
You are 15.

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I don't know how people can take altchans when almost anytime they're ever brought up it just degrades into petty in-group drama. Just look at this thread - nearly 100 posts overnight and it's just a bunch of fags namedropping each other and trying to make the other lose face - and even with their supposed "havens" they're still here.

It's a double-edged sword our mods never post, but at least we don't have to deal with the associated personality-drama or whatever.

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>>36842496
>I guess it's a generation gap thing, but I just can't handle everything being 'chad' or 'tranny' and the other modern teenager speak alongside my escapism.
I dunno, I've been here since at least early 2004 when the site still risked dying permanently and would go down at times. I was in college then and I don't even understand why I was here past 2007. I also didn't understand the appeal of raiding children's sites or prank calling gamestop either due to being an adult, but I've just learned to accept it in this time I guess. Honestly, at least these days it's just people whining about why women don't like them and about transpeople ruining video games and discords while TV pushes gay shit everywhere. If this were older 4chan, you'd probably be seeing constant threads about going to raid the discords instead of the discords raiding this site. Although if this were older 4chan you'd probably see more pro-trans people asking for dick pics. Anyway, moving on before I rant about why /v/ should have been deleted and /pol/ should have never had 3 incarnations.

The point, is I don't care about it as much myself since the site was dead before /jp/ existed and I don't even get the people who think of /jp/ as their home since I was around before 4chan became so obsessed with boards being different from other boards and before the internet was a replacement/extension for your life instead of just something you did seperate from your life.

>Can you guys just shut up and allow people to discuss things without your boring gossip and attention whoring?
This is the real problem though, not wojack permutations, not tranny/chud whatever, but namdropping. Namedropping tripfags, cosplay attention whores, and off-board people that made them angry. All throughout /jp/'s history, all throughout 4chan's history. Although I'm reminded of this (image).

>I think this is a major thing that happens to people as they get older, they still want to talk to people that experienced the same things
I don't know how old any of you fuckers are and that's the point. I'm sure there are people who are in their 40s and 50s here still acting like retarded teens.

>Would you mind linking the threads that you like?
Curiously, I don't like much of anything here. I think the threads about real life Japan and Japanese people needs it own board, but I don't deny train otaku are otaku, idol otaku are otaku, and men and women pretending to be anime characters aren't otaku. Someone who plays video games and sings anime songs for a living is an otaku as well. I'm also not against using other boards. Most threads I visit are in /vst/ now. The old threads I liked were the various MMO threads and doujin game and erogame like Illusion's games and Violated Heroine. I kind of miss seeing what new piece of shit Illusion would churn out with /jp/. I liked the old doll threads, but not the new ones. I also like the OC threads and would make one if I wasn't lazy, but they started attracting people who were undesirable and pretty much always contained people who would somehow form off-board circlejerks and start namedropping. (in fact I've never made an "official" OC thread, only threads about specific OC topics.)

As far as /jp/ goes.
>>36366778 >>36791904 and >>36586970 are currently the only threads that currently interest me. I'd make a thread I like myself but the new captcha always gives a sliding version on making a new thread, so I have to start up another browser than my intentionally outdated one. (since it won't slide on this version)

Going back to the first point about lingo, I don't really give a single shit since I'm not allowed to say things like 'lollercoaster' anymore. I think "glownigger" is a hilarious word, but that's because I love schizo rants like the time cube and computer god things, which is what that phrase is abbreviated from. It's also a good catch-all term for things like "feds", "falseflaggers", "dataminer" and such activities that you imagine to be carried out by 3-letter organizations. Also if /prog/ were still around, you'd probably hear that term literally all the time on /jp/ because of it originating from an insane programmer.

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>>36843381
>and men and women pretending to be anime characters aren't otaku
*are
This goes for cosplayers, kigurumi, and vtubers. I don't think seiyuu worship belongs here though, or anywhere at all outside the context of their work.

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>>36843339
Ha ha ha. People still go into the irc and discord and namedrop and blame using mod names from there whenever something they don't like isn't deleted while something they like is. Else they just make up names for the mods.

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>>36843381
Look everyone, it's a newfag textwaller posts an old unix timecode image episode

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Posters were stupid back then and it was a different kind of stupid than now. Thing are better now than they were in 2006. Most posters were obviously under 18 then and had a childlike Gaiafag mentality. /a/ back then was saturated by stupid childish posts, as well as spammers. Something would happen like posters getting so excited about Code Geass that they bring down the entire site with spam posting. What exactly is there to miss about that era? Do you understand that most people that posted back then were underage including moot himself? I'm the same age as moot and he was 15 when 4chan was created. This wasn't some bastion of enlightened conversation. There were also the technology problems. Especially the interface that was bad all around, and you had to do stupid things like put noko in the email field to stay on your thread. There wasn't third party extensions, nor was there a catalogue.

There was a change in around 2009 when /b/ became internet notorious. Things definitely changed around 2011 when /v/ instead of /b/ became the premier board of the site. And another change in 2016 when /v/ was surpassed by /pol/. I see these dates as a transition points for new eras. To paint a caricature of the average poster there would be an evolution from: childlike Gaiafag - to rage poster - to passive aggressive ironic poster... and now to describe the average current poster of 2021? I don't know. It's easier to see it in retrospection.

So is the average poster worse now? Not really, they're just different. /a/ is now like /v/ was in 2012, and /jp/ is now like /a/ was in 2014; in regards of the mentality of the average poster.

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>changes the 6 to 1-3
yep, now my oldfag larp is complete! I wasted more of my youth on imageboards than you did, therefor im cooler!

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The psychological warfare in this thread is astounding.

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>>36843448
You're an amateur if you don't use a Unix time converter instead.

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>>36843432
Old /b/ was filled with pervy oyajis that posted 3d loli on a regular basis. Even the jay was like that desu
warosu.org/jp/thread/S3982509

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>>36842601
>Half the generals on 4chan think the janny personally stalks their thread but the overwhelming majority of the time it's not true in the slightest and janny actually hates the whole thread for being fags. The reason active generals get more moderation is because the people in them report brigade everything they don't like and it floats to the top of the queue.
This isn't actually true. Sometimes they really do take over the threads. (I've seen in the archive) threads be deleted and recreated because of some minor fuckup, not because of multiple threads or off topic or anything. The problem being, you cannot delete your own threads in /jp/ due to abuse by shitposters who used to delete their own threads and blame the staff for deleting on-topic things. So if someone deletes their general OP and reposts it with an error corrected, they have to have at least janitor status. There also tends to be a slew of posts deleted either badmouthing a certain thing or about a certain thing someone seems to not like that turns up in the archive. If they reported everything they don't like, it'd be weird for everyone to report things like just one member of a 5 member idol group.

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>>36843510
How come telling vtubers they have their own board gets me a three day vacation?

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Faggots don't know that
>>>/trash/
is the hideout for oldfags. Keep it a secret, and you didn't hear it from me.

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>>36843510
>The problem being, you cannot delete your own threads in /jp/ due to abuse by shitposters who used to delete their own threads and blame the staff for deleting on-topic things.
I thought they got rid of that but I guess not.

>it'd be weird for everyone to report things like just one member of a 5 member idol group
The idolfags hate each other more than anyone else in the world. If something retarded is going on where all the posts about yui-chan get deleted (name picked out of a hat), it's probably because there's some sort of retarded in-thread history of militant shitposting around it.

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>>36843423
Here's an example right now >>36842463

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>>36843454
Glownigger is not just a meme

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>>36843381
Thanks for the reply and links. I was never a fan of raiding either, although some of the results were humorous when they were condensed into a post or image. Silly stuff instead of gore spamming, really.

>Namedropping tripfags, cosplay attention whores, and off-board people that made them angry.
I think that's more of a symptom than a cause. I'm generally pretty neutral on trips, but the outrage culture that you mentioned definitely became entwined with them. Names were brought up in this thread because of antisocial people, not because names inherently destroy things. I could say something like "try sephirothgoku92's imageboard" and it wouldn't necessarily derail the thread.

>I don't know how old any of you fuckers are and that's the point.
You're right, but you can still generally feel the age demographics of a board. It's nice to bring something up and have another person recognize it. I'm not upset at people for being young, I just have trouble deciphering their brand of irony and I can't discuss things that happened before their time.

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>>36843563
Do you report things? Whenever I make a bunch of reports, they look around for some marginally borderline post to ban me on a false pretense for instead of doing their job.

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>>36843855
>Do you report things
Nope, but I assume vfags report my posts telling them to stop spamming jaypee

[Anonymous No.]

Lick cunny, enjoy loli farts

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>>36779285
website peaked day 1 and it has be downhill from there

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penis

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Drama is the cancer killing /jp/

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i think /jp/ is great

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Since this is an imageboard thread, might as well mention for posterity.
Some kids from this >>36759393 site managed to wipe out the 1chan catalog, which was an imageboard about trainspotting predating 4chan and had a lot of old threads in the catalog.

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>>36766041
pasted