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VN General Thread Anonymous Sat Dec 1 08:51:20 2012 No.10150510 [Reply] [Original]

Old thread: >>10130767

What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 08:54:50 2012 No.10150517 What do you guys think of Analogue: A Hate Story?

Anonymous Sat Dec 1 09:11:05 2012 No.10150567

Planning to start Alicetale later on tonight.
I'm also probably going to pickup that new CUBE game. I really liked Natsu no Ame, but never got around to playing Your Diary, so it'll be interesting to see how the brand is doing. Plus one of the heroines looks like she's basically a copy-pasted Midori, and since she was my favorite in Natsu no Ame, that's definitely a plus.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 09:16:35 2012 No.10150587 >>10150567 >but never got around to playing Your Diary For the better, a step back from NnA, even if it looks better.

Anonymous Sat Dec 1 09:31:20 2012 No.10150631

>>10150517

the woman has never used a computer before in her life, and it shows. Would've been vastly improved if writer's hard on for corea was enough motivation to bother learning more than a handful of names before giving up and naming the rest of the characters Smith.

the part where Hyun-ae has her tongue cut out of her mouth wasn't as shocking and dramatic as it was foreshadowed to be, but the lesbian letters were fun. The rest of the stories were snorefests, but *hyun is cute and treating her like a doormat and still making her fall head over heals in love with you made at least one play through worth doing. Subsequent play throughs will take 20 mins, tops.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 09:37:50 2012 No.10150640 >>10150517 It wasn't terrible, but I never was able to get used to the names or typing in "quit" instead of "exit" for the terminal parts. Hyun was pretty cute though.

Anonymous Sat Dec 1 09:52:05 2012 No.10150668

>>10150631
>wasn't as shocking and dramatic as it was foreshadowed to be

I agree. Although to Christine's credit, *Hyun was like, "You've figured it out by now, right?"
That was satisfying. It was like the author paused the game for a second and said, "Look, you know what's going to happen now, I know what's going to happen now, let's not beat around the bush and get on with it."

Actually, that sounds lewd.

Lewd things with Christine-chan...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 10:19:36 2012 No.10150714 File: 108 KB, 640x480, alicewinter.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That pleasant feeling when the AliceSoft opening changes and you realize it's finally winter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 10:23:51 2012 No.10150731 File: 2.77 MB, 3600x1920, VN rec.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm ready to actually get through my first VN. That one time I played 15 minutes out of cross channel and yume miru drug somerthing don't count. What do I pick?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 10:25:06 2012 No.10150742 >>10150739 That's probably the only one I would refuse to pick, that and fate/ anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 10:25:21 2012 No.10150739 >>10150731 Katawa Shoujo, don't forget to join the general down on /vg/ to share your amazing experience afterwards.

Anonymous Sat Dec 1 10:29:21 2012 No.10150749

>>10150731
Fate is meh, but actually a good starting point.

However, Tsukihime, its predecessor is quite good, and far better than fate.

Maji De Watashi ni koishinasai is a good place to start, as well, but will is so advanced in format to most visual novels it'll leave you with a wierd feeling when trying to play other older visual novels.

Muv-Luv as a series is a goddamn masterpiece. The first half of the first game, most of the 5 routes are garbage, but everything past that is glorious.

Also Wanko to Karasou

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 10:30:06 2012 No.10150751 >>10150731 >I'm ready to actually get through my first VN. Just play a dating sim. They have better interactivity to assist with self-insertion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 10:30:06 2012 No.10150752 >>10150749 Holy crap. I'm sorry guys, that post was a mess. I must be tired. Those are still my recommendations, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 10:34:51 2012 No.10150760 >>10150752 I think I'll play wanko to karasou, looks fun. Muv luv sounds a bit too long for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 10:39:06 2012 No.10150766 >>10150760 I think you should probably stay away from muv-luv until you've finished a few others or you might just get bored and stop playing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 11:01:36 2012 No.10150840 >>10150742 Playing KS is worth it for the >feel threads in >>>/vg/ >tfw no disabled gf ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 11:07:21 2012 No.10150852 File: 560 KB, 266x360, 1349882489579.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10150840 Just make your own katawa shoujo

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 11:19:46 2012 No.10150901 >>10150852 Mayhem is a serious crime.

Anonymous Sat Dec 1 12:04:51 2012 No.10151010

>>10150749
>However, Tsukihime, its predecessor is quite good, and far better than fate.
This is a lie. Even if Tsukihime was better, the vast differences in production values fills that gap. Tsukihime has not aged very well as a visual novel.

>>10150067
>>Daitoshokan
>Was the trial that good?
The game is just like Eustia, except without hookers, slaves, and murder. So if you liked most of Eustia, then you'll like this game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 13:34:51 2012 No.10151197 >>10151010 >just like Eustia, except without hookers, slaves, and murder Well, I'm sold.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 13:46:51 2012 No.10151225 装甲悪鬼村正

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 14:02:51 2012 No.10151273 Re asking >>10149656 White album, I want to play and finish whichever the best route to put the game down is on Christmas Ever and Day. Between Setsuna and Kazusa Normal->True, which should I do?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 14:06:06 2012 No.10151278 >>10151273 Setsuna leaves you with happy and warm feelings and the thought that you didn't harm anyone forever. Kazusa's routes don't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 14:12:21 2012 No.10151299 >>10151278 Alright then, Setsuna's route it is. Thanks for the the response.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 14:31:06 2012 No.10151346 Where the fuck is my Naisho no Naisho already.

Anonymous Sat Dec 1 14:46:22 2012 No.10151386

>>10151225
I started that one a couple days ago, but I think I'm going to put off continuing it for a while since at the moment, I don't think I can get as much as I would like out of it because I'm having a bit of difficulty reading through it and making sense of how a lot of was written so far.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 14:47:52 2012 No.10151389 Man, December's looking pretty good. Even ignoring the new steampunk game there's quite a few games I'm looking forward to. Also the Applique fandisc which I've been anticipating for awhile.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 14:49:37 2012 No.10151393 File: 20 KB, 304x405, 1354288775-fecc2b0-1.540x405.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ooh ooh my setsuna

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 15:16:22 2012 No.10151482 あかときっ！　－夢こそまされ恋の魔砲ー It's pretty funny and I like it so far. Does Rinko have a route?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 15:33:22 2012 No.10151538 File: 284 KB, 640x480, 20.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] We are not safe from the crossboarders even in the VN threads... Anyway, i'm reading WHITE ALBUM. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHWzznyD618

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 15:40:37 2012 No.10151560 >>10151538 You are reading the old version?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 15:45:52 2012 No.10151576 >>10151560 It's a completely different game, not an "old version".

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 16:04:52 2012 No.10151659 >>10151576 Did they change that much in the ps3 one? I thought it was just a revamp leaving the same plot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 16:17:37 2012 No.10151705 File: 260 KB, 640x480, 15.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10151560 Yes, i'm reading the 2003 release for PC. >>10151576 The PS3 release is the same as PC with enhanced graphics and full voice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 16:29:07 2012 No.10151751 >>10151705 Oh, I thought he was talking about WA vs. WA2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 17:35:37 2012 No.10152075 File: 48 KB, 798x601, kusa7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] She's laughing at me, I swear, I also don't get her sense of humor at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 17:48:37 2012 No.10152124 >>10151278 Setsuna's routes are boring shit anti-climax endings for people who can't handle the drama they signed up for. Kazusa route basically true end.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 18:02:52 2012 No.10152191 >>10151705 Wasn't the updated version released for the PC this year?

Spoonfeeder !!3Lh1EbqwPkN Sat Dec 1 18:08:52 2012 No.10152207
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>>10150731
Can you read Japanese? If not, Fate/Stay Night and Tsukihime will probably be your best bets. If there's a VN in Japanese that you want to read, don't use AGTH + Atlas. Just learn Japanese or else you'll end up with shitty translations like pic related.

Anonymous Sat Dec 1 18:27:07 2012 No.10152275
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>>10152207
>learn Japanese
you make it sound so easy. What if i try to learn Japanese and get stuck learning it for 5 or 6 years? by that time I'll be old as fuck, also i'm 18 yo pic related i want to play this VN ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 18:28:52 2012 No.10152283 Has anyone here played Ripple～ブルーシールへようこそっ～, and if so, is it worth playing? I haven't read anything by Maruto so I'm debating between starting with this or Curio. The reviews I've read on Ripple have been pretty mixed.

Anonymous Sat Dec 1 18:29:52 2012 No.10152290
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>>10152207
I was curious and decided to put that through google. Looks like they improved a little.

>>10152275
To be honest, learning enough to be able to understand a lot of VNs isn't that hard as long as you put some effort into it.

>>	Spoonfeeder !!3Lh1EbqwPkN Sat Dec 1 18:30:22 2012 No.10152291 >>10152275 Being able to read VN's in Japanese takes less than 2 years with a small amount of dedication, and less than 1 year with intensive study. It's not as hard as it looks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 18:31:07 2012 No.10152296 >>10152275 tfw 14 learning japanese 4 hours a dayI'll be enjoying my girl games over here in high school better get your shit going faggot

Anonymous Sat Dec 1 18:33:07 2012 No.10152306

>>10152275
It's not really that hard though. Especially since you're on /jp/ you probably spend most of your time on weeaboo hobbies. I forget the name of the blog, but what it said about exposure being the best way to learn really is true. It doesn't take long at all to be able to read kana as good as the English alphabet. Then kanji can be learned just be seeing them over and over again in VNs, niconico, EGS, etc and Rikaichan. Grammar is relatively easy too. I've never formally studied kanji and I can still read average-level VNs fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 18:34:22 2012 No.10152308 >>10152296 Reported for being underage, abusing the spoiler function, and ``tfw.''

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 18:35:37 2012 No.10152312 Run 土曜のよる through ATLAS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 18:36:37 2012 No.10152317 Run 土曜の夜 through ATLAS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 18:39:37 2012 No.10152328 File: 8 KB, 250x78, atlasinanutshell.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10152317

Anonymous Sat Dec 1 18:43:22 2012 No.10152344

>>10152275
Fuck off already.

Every time you post here it's the same damn thing. No one can help you. You can only help yourself. If you actually cared you'd realize just how many resources are at your disposal, for free, for learning Japanese. Since you're 18, I'm assuming you're going to college. Check to see what local schools have a good East Asian languages program and go there. You'll be reading VNs by the summer after your sophomore year.

As for my own personal experience, I read MuvLuv Alternative as my first Japanese VN after 2 years of study and recently just finished Muramasa after 4 years.

Anonymous Sat Dec 1 18:49:37 2012 No.10152372
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Last played: Alice Tale. Quick time event galore, Fun stuff. Red riding hood was definitely best designed (though I think she'd be better with a few inches more in hair length). but my favorite combat character is the little brawler whose name I forgot. Her combo end with healing everyone greatly. She can god damn solo everything.

Currently playing Eiyuu senki, again. I'm getting tired of Marcedonia's spearmen. They are basically turtles. Video cast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEWz6kmDEuw

Anonymous Sat Dec 1 18:50:52 2012 No.10152375

>>10152283
I was going to read it but somehow I ended reading something else instead.
Anyways it has a route that is supposed to be the proto version the "ex-girlfriend" story he puts in every one of his game so it should be interesting to read just for that.

But if you want some good Maruto I'd recommend Mama Love, I assume you already did Chocolat/Parfait/etc...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 18:51:07 2012 No.10152379 >>10152375 Oops, I completely misread your post. If you have never read anything by Maruto start with Curio

Anonymous Sat Dec 1 19:09:47 2012 No.10152466

>>10152375
>>10152379
Thanks, I'll probably start with Curio then. I usually like to play things from certain brands/authors in order from the oldest to newest, but sometimes the first product can be better appreciated if one reads the later works first, which sounds like the proto-route you mentioned.

Anonymous Sat Dec 1 19:13:07 2012 No.10152483
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>>10152290
>>10152291
>>10152306
>>10152344
well, I have finally decided to learn Japanese now as of today, since i drop out of high school and all i have been doing up to now is stay inside my room watching subbed anime and manga all day everyday. I'm going to use /a/'s daily Japanese threads to learn Japanese, am i making the right choice?I just want to play some goddamn VNs ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 19:14:07 2012 No.10152491 >>10152483 Don't listen to those above. Just grab a machine translator, start reading visual novels and the words and their meanings will be imprinted in your brain in time.

Spoonfeeder !!3Lh1EbqwPkN Sat Dec 1 19:19:23 2012 No.10152519

>>10152483
Use Tae Kim's guide: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/
KanjiDAMAGE: http://kanjidamage.com/
Use Anki's pseudo-flashcards: http://ankisrs.net/
and use daily /a/ threads to supplement.
>>10152491
Read Muramasa with a machine translator.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 19:19:37 2012 No.10152520 >>10152191 I dunno, but i'm fine with this version. >>10152328 What the HELL?!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 19:20:37 2012 No.10152527 >>10152520 The new version is fucking amazing from a production values perspective.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 19:36:07 2012 No.10152620 >>10148684 Σ（ﾟдﾟ＊） I'd hit it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 21:19:53 2012 No.10153154 File: 117 KB, 533x400, c753277sample4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hahahaha Lobster penis

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 21:22:38 2012 No.10153164 >>10153154 At least we know what Nasu will be fapping to this month.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 21:47:47 2012 No.10153289 >>10153154 That lobster is pretty moe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 22:20:53 2012 No.10153451 Anything similar to Hozhimemo? Simple Japanese and decent stories that tie together at the true route?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 22:27:23 2012 No.10153484 >>10153451 The first one that comes to mind is Baldr Sky, but another one you might want to consider is いろとりどりのセカイ which was also made by Favorite.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 1 22:28:38 2012 No.10153491 >>10153484 Baldr Sky isn't really similar at all though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 02:46:25 2012 No.10154615 Can someone recommend me some eroge where you can "touch" the girls? I would prefer lolis but anything is fine. I recently downloaded "Kawaii Ko Mitsuketara Pero Pero" and I liked it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 04:37:47 2012 No.10154849 Did anyone try ガンナイトガール's trial? Any impressions, is it worth checking out?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 06:55:11 2012 No.10155124 >>10153154 what a slut, a pure girl should be satisfied with just hermit crabs. I have no idea what this game is but I suppose I'll have to play it now. I hope that's the MC turned into a lobster (except for the dick); might be kind of hot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 06:57:26 2012 No.10155129 >>10152620 Is this a Unisonshift game?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 07:22:41 2012 No.10155178 >>10155124 according to the description it sounds like it's a game centered around seafood intercourse

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 08:07:56 2012 No.10155258
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Annabeth in this picture is mfw Peg illustration but no yuri. Although she draws a cute Tesla.

But before that, have some happy ENGINE SMOKER news:

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/book/book_3220.php …　　スチームパンクシリーズ、『ガクトゥーン』と共に「最新」の物語。
お楽しみに。

no idea why Nitroplus Books is the one putting this out, but I am fucking ecstatic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 08:20:26 2012 No.10155288 File: 137 KB, 800x600, tumblr_m7u1egFzre1rwcv1ao2_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just started the trial version of SubaHibi. I really want the full version, since I've heard there are some really disturbing scenes later in the game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 08:20:41 2012 No.10155289 File: 131 KB, 948x541, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I stop this shit from happening?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 08:22:56 2012 No.10155295 >>10155289 Try ITH or a hook code.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 08:24:11 2012 No.10155301 >>10155295 Oh, and it seems that the engine is writing every character one at a time, so you could try setting text speed to instant too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 08:24:26 2012 No.10155299 File: 157 KB, 318x450, VJ007256_img_main.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10155178 holy shit, I thought you were joking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 08:26:11 2012 No.10155305 File: 228 KB, 1280x720, 1308357929182.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10155299 People are really scraping the bottom of the barrel it seems

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 08:29:56 2012 No.10155311 >>10155258 The corresponding lovecraft location this time is probably Kara-Shehr

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 08:35:26 2012 No.10155317 File: 216 KB, 450x318, hokusai-pieuvre-grandBC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10155305 octopus sex is a pretty established tradition, it's nothing new really

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 08:39:41 2012 No.10155321
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>>10155311
Thank you, I'm bad at figuring those out.

Should probably get around to reading me some Lovecraft for real in the near future; all I've ever read is The Dunwich Horror, and that was years and years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 08:42:11 2012 No.10155328 >>10155317 I think that's more for the tentacles than the seafood. I don't even like the weird stuff like eyes and gross things on tentacles. Some people do, I can't explain it, just accept it. Meh

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 08:43:26 2012 No.10155330 >>10153154 Ahahaha that's so bizarre.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 08:47:41 2012 No.10155340 >>10155321 They're actually pretty straightforward unless she cheats by arranging the name like she did with N'gahk-thun. Admittedly, making a game near-unpronounceable probably wouldn't have made the liarsoft marketing guys that happy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 08:53:12 2012 No.10155350 >>10155321 >>10155340 You can't even read this shit in english, let alone phonetically translate it to Japanese

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 09:32:27 2012 No.10155420
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And with this Kusarihime is finished.
Really liked what they did with the characters in their respective looks, they were so plain during the first couple of weeks, they even gave some to Seiji, I thought he would get shafted after Natsuki, glad he wasn't, had one of the best loops.
Also by what I heard of it, I thought the ending would be worse, but I liked the true ending and the other two, I thought the execution was good overall, solid game, not as good as forest but still good, Kurame was great too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 10:16:42 2012 No.10155510 Is there a good site for script sizes/average length of a VN? Tlwiki's site is so barebones.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 10:38:12 2012 No.10155570 >>10155510 I'm pretty sure TLWiki's list is by far the most comprehensive one you're going to find that's even remotely reliable

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 10:40:57 2012 No.10155580 >>10155570 Shit then. Vndb is just so... open with lengths, I mean, 20 hours intervals is a bit too much.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 10:43:57 2012 No.10155586 >>10155580 There's always EGS' user submitted playtimes. But they're not exactly the best to go by either, and there's probably none for older games unless they're popular ones.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 10:43:57 2012 No.10155587 >>10155580 Use egs and look at the completion times then. But then that's native reading speed so you probably need to add 30% more unless you shit japanese yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 10:56:57 2012 No.10155602 File: 101 KB, 771x675, closetM.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] At least it's a grade up from her fantasy in reading every male-male relationship as homo...

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 11:03:13 2012 No.10155610 >>10155586 >>10155587 I didn't even knew this tag even existed, and it's with the rest of game info, fuck me, thanks. There's even information for how long it takes a game to get interesting, talk about being handy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 12:40:12 2012 No.10155882 To the few of you who liked Sharin and G-sen, is Lavender no shoujo worth playing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 14:19:45 2012 No.10156198 >>10155602 Source?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 16:01:46 2012 No.10156581 >>10156198 It's that new Alice Tale game probably

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 16:50:00 2012 No.10156960
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Finished the "good" route of Itaike na Kanojo. Overall, I liked it. It was no literary masterpiece, but it did what it set out to do reasonably well, and it was interesting watching how the protagonist changes over the course of the game. I probably won't bother with the evil route for now, as I more than filled my sadism quota just during the good route.

And for the posters a couple of threads back who were wondering if there is a happy ending, yes, the good route ends with the MC and Honoka living happily ever after together.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 16:58:30 2012 No.10157015 >>10156960 ;_; Really there's a happy end?... Now I want to finish it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 17:20:45 2012 No.10157143 >>10156960 Well, evil route was pretty good too. It's just the matter of how you look at it. And if you want to know my opinion, then I would say that game quite amusing in various ways. My ドＳ side is very appreciate this game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 17:25:00 2012 No.10157170 File: 48 KB, 499x350, haruuru+.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reading Haruka ni aogi. Comedy's great, I should hit my first route soon enough since I went and read three VNs instead of keeping with it, seems like it'll be long.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 17:31:15 2012 No.10157193 >>10157143 I'm leaving it installed and will likely go back and play the evil route at some point, just not right away. I agree, it's pretty satisfying from a sadistic perspective.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 17:36:00 2012 No.10157219 I'm intalling Yume Miru Kusuri at the moment... Funny how everything I play, /jp/ hates.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 17:41:00 2012 No.10157240 >>10157219 Not Moogy!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 17:42:30 2012 No.10157244 >>10157219 I played the translation when I was in high school and I liked it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 17:46:00 2012 No.10157264 >>10157219 Most people hate it just to seem like they're advanced eroge/VN readers. It's certainly not a masterpiece, but even if it's not your first read it's still enjoyable, and the soundtrack is nice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 17:48:31 2012 No.10157271 >>10157264 I don't know, I enjoyed one route and the ost was forgettable save for a couple of tracks. Not something I'd recommend.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 17:55:00 2012 No.10157303 Has 5pb said anything at all about the R;N PC port they confirmed back then when they released it? I know it got some awful reception and all, but just asking if there has been any new announcement.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 18:44:00 2012 No.10157492 >>10157303 >I know it got some awful reception and all Said reception was by 360 fans bitter that the game got a simultaneous release on PS3 too. Anyone who actually played the game for real enjoyed it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 19:01:15 2012 No.10157571 File: 255 KB, 1280x720, 39829.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10156581 Yes, it should be Alicetale. I am even more motivated to play it now. No idea why the screenshot is cropped like that, though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 19:02:30 2012 No.10157574 File: 44 KB, 256x368, 14845.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Leyline part 2 already? Well I sure as hell know what I'm looking forward to now.

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 19:08:30 2012 No.10157611
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Is OT discussion/bragging about tertiary VN-related things allowed in here?

Because I got the chance to go to a Gakthun/Kara no Shoujo 2 release event last weekend, and it was pretty sweet.

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 19:12:15 2012 No.10157634

>>10150731
Fate/Stay Night. If you like it, wait for F/HA to come out. Don't forget it's predecessor
Tsukihime.

Kawawa Shoujo seems to be fairly popular. I recommend it, but it does turn some people off VNs just because of the idea. It's a really good experience.

ef is fantastic. It isn't really babby's first VN, but it's still easy to go though and it's very enjoyable.

Muv Luv, from what I hear, is really good. I still need to check it out myself.

Clannad for the feels. Although, to complete it, you're going to need a bit of time finishing it, though, if you want to go through all the routes.

The Chaos;Head/Steins;Gate trilogy is pretty good, although Robotic;Notes is only on Xbox 360/PS3, so unless you speak Nipponese, it's going to be hard to get.

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 19:34:30 2012 No.10157706
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>>10157634
I agree that these are good for beginners, I have a few warnings:

- Katawa Shoujo gets a lot of hate but it is a good, solid work that's also a good choice for fisrt-timers to the medium. Play Shizune route first though; it's not great but the other routes are better.

- minori, the studio that made ef, is REALLY hit and miss, and their games can be quite boring. ef further tends to be quite polarizing (I personally HATED it, especially the first chapter) in addition to being long. I'd recommend picking up Wind -a breath of heart- and doing a route or two in that first so you know what you're in for.

- The Nitroplus science trilogy sort of declined with each subsequent release IMO. Chaos;Head is really worth playing but if S;G doesn't impress you then you should probably give up on R;N.

You should play at least one Key/Tactics game; they're classics and you should at least be familiar with the studio's work. MOON. is my favorite, although I wouldn't call it an entry-level VN, as it's fairly weird in addition to being old.

In English you have your choice of MOON., ONE, Kanon, Clannad (has a complete but severely uneven patch), its sequel Tomoyo After, Planetarian, and Little Busters!, with projects underway for Air, Little Busters! EX, Kud Wafter and Rewrite (as well as a Clannad retranslation and Rewrite's fandisc at some unspecifried future point).

Finally, I recommend the Infinity series (Never7/Ever17/Remember11, with two more games now being translated).

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 19:44:45 2012 No.10157751

>>10157634
>>10157706
I'm not sure if you guys are samefagging, trolling or just stupid.

Why would we ever want beginners anyway? In fact, i'm pretty sure the 40% of the posters in this thread know japanese or they're learning, 40% are using AGTH and the other 20% are shitposters like this guy >>10150852

Just keep your western VNs out of /jp/.

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 20:37:45 2012 No.10157924

So about Fate/Stay Night...

I watched Fate/Zero and thought it was fantastic. Heard loads of hype about the Fate/Stay VN and so I started playing it. Ended up dropping it and not sure if I should pick it back up again.

Now it never really drew me in. I absolutely detested Shirou for one thing. His stupidity was infuriating. Without a doubt one of my most hated MCs of all time. But the real buzz killer was that god awful mana transfer bullshit. Now I'm no prude and no stranger to eroge but that shit was so ridiculous and so immersion breaking that I dropped it not long after. That alone wouldn't have been enough to turn me off but like I said I was never really feeling it to begin with.

But still I hear so much praise for this VN that I keep wondering what I'm missing. Exactly what is it about Fate/Stay that people love so much? I liked Fate/Zero for the visuals, the soundtrack, the characters. I got none of that feeling from F/S. It seemed shallow as shit in comparison.

So really. What am I missing? Because nothing I saw came even close to justifying the hype. Does it pick up (like pick up A LOT) later on and in the other routes? Should I give it another shot?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 20:41:30 2012 No.10157942 >>10157751 >I'm not sure if you guys are samefagging, trolling or just stupid. They're just answering someone's question.

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 20:56:15 2012 No.10157993

>>10157924
Honestly, if you didn't enjoy what you've already read of FSN, I wouldn't bother picking it back up again.

Type-Moon has some really rabid fans, but I can't really figure out why. Tsukihime was decent for its time and considering it was a doujin game, but hasn't aged well. FSN has some interesting world building but that's about it; it took me more than a month to slog through Heaven's Feel. Fate/Zero being written by Urobuchi instead of Nasu is the only thing that made it as good as it was, IMO.

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 20:58:15 2012 No.10158001

>>10157924
First of all, you're comparing an anime to a porno game. Personally, I found Fate/zero (the anime) to be kind of boring given that it's a prequel and suffers a lot from the constraints FSN had placed on it. Like, Saber had zero character development for example.

The love FSN, I would guess, comes from the well-established lore, the characters, and the battles. Especially the last one. For every kerfuffle that Shirou gets himself into, he's always the extreme underdog making the fighting tense and outcomes hard to predict. You don't really get that kind of tension with Kiritsugu given that he's a trained killer and all. If you don't like any of these 3 things, well, this game isn't for you.

Everyone complains about Shirou being annoying Fate, but I think most people find him pretty tolerable in UBW and Heaven's Feel. Also, if you don't want mana tranfer sex you can always play Realta Nua. Or just skip through those scenes and pretend they never happened.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 21:01:15 2012 No.10158015 >>10157924 Fate route is rubbish. All the good stuff happens in UBW and HF. Try ctrl'ing through Fate and reading the other routes.

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 21:04:45 2012 No.10158032

>>10157924
If you have a mentality of an edgy teenager, there's some slight chance Heaven's Feel will blow your mind.

I wouldn't bother with it.

(though personally, F/SN is in its entirety silly enough that its ridiculous excuses for fanservice were much less grating than Muv-Luv's - now, THIS is a buzz kill )

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 21:07:15 2012 No.10158052 >>10158032 Aren't you just the mature professional eroge reader, what with your witty namecalling and all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 21:11:45 2012 No.10158065 >>10157924 Honestly, if you aren't liking Fate at all I doubt UBW or HF is going to do much for you. Just count it as a difference in opinion and move on. The game is far too long to force yourself through it.

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 21:13:30 2012 No.10158072

>>10157706
>I'd recommend picking up Wind -a breath of heart- and doing a route or two in that first so you know what you're in for.
Terrible advice since ef is written by completely different people than Wind. Basically everyone agrees Wind is terrible while quite a few people like ef.

>>10157924
The characters, world, plot, and battles. If you didn't like it then don't play it. Don't expect to like something just because other people do. It doesn't mean you're "missing" anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 21:13:30 2012 No.10158073 File: 956 KB, 880x662, sinsemilla 2012-12-02 03-39-39-07.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So is this the worst designed bridge ever?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 21:15:30 2012 No.10158080 >>10158073 Yeah, every time I saw that I cringed a little. Do they actually build bridges like that in rural Japan?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 21:15:45 2012 No.10158083 >>10158073 Holy shit, just looking that makes me weak in the knees.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 21:25:16 2012 No.10158131 >>10158073 >>10158080 Don't know about Japan but we have those kind of bridges in the Philippines. If you think that looks scary try walking in one. Every footstep you take rocks the whole thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 21:35:47 2012 No.10158181 >>10158131 Sounds fun. Are they sound enough to jump up and down on?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 21:43:30 2012 No.10158238 File: 220 KB, 990x560, i2uJ2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Child molester simulator is finally out on Nyaa.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 21:54:45 2012 No.10158294 >>10158238 It's not child molestation. It clearly states that they're over 18.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 22:03:46 2012 No.10158340 >>10158294 That's why I wrote "simulator." It's like you're molesting kids but you're actually only touching fully consenting adult women.

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 22:06:47 2012 No.10158358

Played Witch's Garden. Done most of the routes.

I don't know why, but for some reason, when I played Suzuno's route I actually felt quite sad knowing that I will never have, for lack of a better word, such an unrealistic loving relationship. Normally I would think that sounds silly, as I've come to accept reality for what it is, but something about being with her made me feel that insatiable desire to be part of 2D world and actually be the MC. It's not even like I haven't met other characters like her in other VNs, but this one just felt differently.

Does this happen to anyone else anymore?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 22:13:47 2012 No.10158392 >>10158358 It does feel pretty good having an unreachable, high class ojousama constantly talking about how she's "your woman."

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 22:18:47 2012 No.10158410

>>10158392
God yes, it was great.
I really got drawn into it though. I felt like I was blushing when she kept repeating the MC's name over and over, even as she went back to her home. I got really excited when the MC jumped in to protect her from her sister and essentially confessed in front of her during so.
I don't know. It feels stupid to talk about it, but I couldn't help it.

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 22:33:46 2012 No.10158492

>>10158358
>>10158392
>>10158410
I started Witch's Garden today. I got through to the first choice and now I'm stuck. I'm not really sure which route to go for as none of the girls really made me think 'I want to do her route!'

I'm also playing Kurano-kun-chi no futago no jijou right now. I might switch back to that while i make up my mind about Witch's Garden. I don't dislike it... it's just... well....

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 22:37:01 2012 No.10158508 >>10158492 > Kurano-kun-chi no futago no jijou I was looking forward to this, but it just feels too lewd for me, so I've only played till a little bit after the first choice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 22:49:46 2012 No.10158568 >>10158508 The fact that it's a nukige full of incest is obviously not for some people, I don't mind it though, I think I'll 100% it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 22:50:31 2012 No.10158571 File: 722 KB, 1280x720, kurafuta1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10158492 I just started. YOU CAN'T MAKE ME CHOOSE. I CHOOSE TO LEAVE THE HOUSE AND LIVE ON MY OWN IF I HAVE TO.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 22:52:01 2012 No.10158584 >>10158571 yeah I totally agree with you... I hope there's a harem route

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 22:57:01 2012 No.10158598 >>10158584 I'm pretty sure there is. I don't even think you need to clear the game at all first to enter it either.

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 22:57:16 2012 No.10158596

>>10158568
I think it's more that there are too many of my fetishes in one game combined with an artist I like is what make it feel too lewd for me.
I'll definitely finish at least two routes in it though.
I just don't want to wear out my dick before I finish the common route like I was going to do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 23:01:16 2012 No.10158612 >>10158596 hmmm.... I'm going to prioritise Tomoka and Ema.... The fact that Tomoka is the protagonist's own twin makes me want to do her route first...

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 23:06:46 2012 No.10158632 >>10158492 If you're still playing Witch's Garden, beware of this: >>10144692

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 23:08:31 2012 No.10158638 >>10158571 This artist sort of reminds of Kantoku.

Anonymous Sun Dec 2 23:53:16 2012 No.10158764
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>>10156960
I fucking hate you... i fucking hate you so much.. i want you dead... i want you to suffer... i want you to die!! why you gotta enjoy playing that glorious VN and i can't?! WHY???!!! I have always wanted to play that VN... ALWAYS!!!!! but i can't cause i simply don't know Japanese! FUCKING JAPANESE!!!!!!!! but you... YOU!! YOU ARE ABLE TO PLAY THAT FUCKING VN AND ENJOY YOURSELF WITH IT!!!!!!! YOU!!!.... YOU!!!.... you... have i done something wrong? is god mad at me? why do people like you get to enjoy glorious VNs and i can't... why... just why... I fucking hate you... I hope something bad happens to you... you piece of shit.
also reported because i hate you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 23:53:16 2012 No.10158767 Were there any other genre shifts released this year besides HaruKuru? I can't think of any, personally.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 2 23:57:01 2012 No.10158794 >>10158767 終わる世界とバースデイ maybe? I'm not sure if that counts as genre shift.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 00:08:31 2012 No.10158851 >>10157611 >I got the chance to go to a Gakthun/Kara no Shoujo 2 release event That isn't tertiary in the slightest. And I'm jelly as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 00:10:16 2012 No.10158864 >>10158767 Did Sakura, Sakimashita have any twists besides the big one that you find out immediately after the trial ends? I may need to play that, since it has glorious Ajisanma (Touko/Benio) in it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 00:12:02 2012 No.10158875

>>10154849
Haven't read it but considering it's a Candysoft title, it'll probably be pretty average. I don't think the author has written anything notable either.
I think a guy a thread or two back said it looked like it had the potential to pull a genre shift though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 00:30:01 2012 No.10158938 >>10158875 Nevermind, checking the archive it seems that guy didn't actually read the trial.

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 00:39:46 2012 No.10158978
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Well, just finished Muramasa, so I'll just mention a bunch of possibly unrelated thoughts and impressions. The ending of Maou-hen was beautiful. I wish the bad/alternative ends weren't so short. Especially Chachamaru and a certain ending withSayo's Tsurugi Also, there were a couple things that were mentioned early on and seemed like they were going to be super important, but were never mentioned again. For example, wasn't Ichijou given a tsurugi arm at the end of chapter 2? Then it just got replaced later and nothing ever happened with it. I really liked how pretty much every character was important, and how the true route built upon the previous two. Lastly, I still think Sorimachi was kind of a dumb villian. And the bad guy from chapter one was just painful. Pretty much everyone from Rokuhara and GHQ were great though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 00:41:46 2012 No.10158990 >>10158978 wat. That wasn't a tsurugi arm. Muramasa just spun that shit out of her metal threads.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 00:44:46 2012 No.10159001 >>10158990 Oh wait. I thought you meant chapter 4. My bad. That stick that Ichijou got was part of Masamune.

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 00:49:31 2012 No.10159020

>>10159001
Wow, so it is. I just went back to that part and saw the guy using the same summoning phrase.

I guess I just completely missed it if they mentioned the connection later?
The other thing was that Chachamaru mentioned earlier that Enoshima was a diversion, but I assume the "real" weapon was the anti tsurugi ray

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 00:55:31 2012 No.10159037 File: 121 KB, 640x480, kanojo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hey guys i'm about to play Itaike na Kano- oh wait i forgot, i don't speak Japanese... ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 00:57:31 2012 No.10159044 File: 33 KB, 500x461, 3453323232323232.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10159037

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 00:57:31 2012 No.10159045 Narcissu. I'm off to a slow but steady start, liking it so far.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 00:59:16 2012 No.10159050 >>10158864 Someone said it plays out pretty similarly to Soshite Ashita no Sekai Yori, which I haven't played, so I can't comment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 01:00:31 2012 No.10159055 >What are you playing? SonoHana 8

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 01:22:16 2012 No.10159104

>>10158978
>I really liked how pretty much every character was important
I felt like this is the one thing that Muramasa did quite poorly. There were so many awesome characters and the vast majority of them ended up doing nothing really important in the end. One thing that annoyed me the most was Ichijou and Kanae virtually disappearing completely in the Maou root.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 01:40:46 2012 No.10159134 >>10158764 Maybe someday if I get really bored I'll translate it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 01:59:46 2012 No.10159160 Is it unhealthy to go from VN to VN for the purpose of escaping reality?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 02:03:31 2012 No.10159184 >>10159160 No more unhealthy than amassing favorite Touhous instead of friends.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 02:04:46 2012 No.10159189 >>10158073 great design if it was meant to be scary; this triggered my agorophobia like fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 03:03:16 2012 No.10159383 >>10158978 >And the bad guy from chapter one was just painful. He did give me a mental trauma for the happiest tracks in the OST. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HJKzzwP1r0

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 03:38:01 2012 No.10159532 >>10159160 Not really, there are plenty of worse ways to do that. VNs don't directly cause organ damage, for example. I'd assume the unhealthy thing is whatever it is that forces you to escape reality in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 05:21:46 2012 No.10159783 I'll be straight with you guys. My penis isn't gonna last through the common route of Kurafuta. Just saying.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 05:42:46 2012 No.10159843 I wanted to play alice parade but I couldn't find any reasonable method of acquiring it so I'm going to sulk in this thread and shitpost on /jp/ instead.

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 06:00:31 2012 No.10159883

>>10159104
Well, I actually felt each character actually had a chance to shine throughout the game which is more than I can say for similar games. Ichijou and Kanae aren't used that much in Maou, but they had the other two routes entirely for themselves so to speak, and the spotlight could then be focused on other characters. Same thing for Shishio for example, he doesn't do much in general but I felt his part in Kanae's route was great.
The fact that Maou-hen is the strongest thematically doesn't really reduce Eiyuu-hen or Fukushuu-hen's overall importance to "routes you get over with before the meat of the game" like you see often

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 06:01:46 2012 No.10159886 >>10159883 >Shishio Shishiku, rather

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 06:03:01 2012 No.10159889 >>10159883 I agree, the only part that was lacking was Raichou who shoudl have had his battle in Chachamaru's end but alas.

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 06:04:32 2012 No.10159891
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>>10152372
Last played: Tera Beppin. I downloaded the game cause I thought it has animation. Looks like the trailer belonged to an another game which I probably will never come across again. Pity, the game was an another clock up's generic nukige. I cant read moon so all that humor, if any at all, was wasted.

Currently playing Eiyuu Senki. Finally took down Macedonia. For some reasons, this episode contains a lot more lines then usual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTab3wy_lQI

Looking forward to: Nothing interesting this month whatsoever. I've totally lost hope on unicorn-18 making a decent game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 06:08:32 2012 No.10159894 >>10159891 Why? Sengoku Hime 3 was pretty nice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 06:12:02 2012 No.10159901 >>10159783 >Kurafuta Are all heroines blood-related?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 06:25:02 2012 No.10159934 >>10159891 >Pity, the game was an another clock up's generic nukige. >I cant read moon Cool story, bro.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 06:26:47 2012 No.10159935 >>10159891 >I've totally lost hope on unicorn-18 making a decent game. But Otsen is good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 06:28:02 2012 No.10159942 >>10159935 >But Otsen is good. Yeah. I sure love reading through 16 hours of text just to get to the gameplay!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 06:30:32 2012 No.10159947 >>10159843 http://waa.ai/eMW

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 06:31:47 2012 No.10159951 >>10159942 but you said you can't read moon so why should the amount of text you skip be relevant

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 06:31:47 2012 No.10159952
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>>10159894
I dont know, just found their overall design lackluster somehow. Now that their last release has got a nodvd patch, guess I'd give it a shot again.

>>10159934
Has the definition of "nukige" lost on you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 06:35:03 2012 No.10159959 >>10159951 I'm not that anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 10:23:47 2012 No.10160451 >>10159901 I'm pretty sure they are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 11:00:49 2012 No.10160533 I've been thinking back to Dea ex Machina today and damn it had some sweet battle tracks http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11616798 I really hope GEARS of DRAGOON will deliver because I really like this team

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 11:50:49 2012 No.10160634 File: 317 KB, 356x500, 20121201161043ff6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wouldn't like this pic if it wasn't for dem legs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 12:14:04 2012 No.10160703 File: 145 KB, 1278x715, why.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You know what innocent grey? Fuck you, I ain't reading this anymore. You aren't to be trusted even in a demo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 12:15:34 2012 No.10160706 File: 145 KB, 1278x715, why.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You know what innocent grey? Fuck you, I ain't reading this anymore. You aren't to be trusted even in a demo

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 12:17:50 2012 No.10160712 >>10160706 It was a no-brainer, and at least the wayshe's murdered is relevant to the plot!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 12:28:04 2012 No.10160743 Does anyone who where I could find the renewal version of Itaike na Kanojo? I checked on Share and PD, but no luck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 12:35:04 2012 No.10160766 File: 146 KB, 1288x752, 2354235.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Help me /jp/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 12:36:49 2012 No.10160775 >>10160766 You must construct additional pylons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 12:42:34 2012 No.10160803 >>10160533 I've been recently playing Dea Ex Machina myself, although haven't finished even route yet I have to agree that some of the tracks are some great stuff. And hope too that GoD will deliver as been really liking Dea Ex so far in various ways

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 12:47:04 2012 No.10160830 File: 371 KB, 500x375, 1353937222723.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10160775 thx anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 13:01:50 2012 No.10160878 >>10157611 Would you mind telling us what the event was like? Were some of the staff members present or something?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 13:32:47 2012 No.10160971 >>10160743 google いたいけな彼女 "100430"

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 13:35:20 2012 No.10160980 File: 53 KB, 625x383, helpme.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh god so many VNs what read first?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 13:41:05 2012 No.10160998 >>10160980 Corona, then uninstall the rest

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 13:43:05 2012 No.10161005 File: 59 KB, 252x400, 716192novelty1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are the bad ends in Sinsemilla worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 13:44:36 2012 No.10161008 >>10160743 FYI, I don't think the renewal version is any different from the original. VNDB says it's fully voiced, but that's incorrect.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 13:48:05 2012 No.10161026 >>10160998 Except for mangekyou bishoujo 2

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 13:58:35 2012 No.10161064 is there any vn where all the heroines are tsundere translated or untranslated doesn't matter

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 14:02:20 2012 No.10161072 >>10161064 http://vndb.org/v1303 masterpiece.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 14:04:20 2012 No.10161087 >>10161072 T-that's not what I asked for. Though I may as well try it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 14:08:05 2012 No.10161097 >>10161064 Tsuyokiss was hyped as the all tsundere all the time eroge when it was released. I personally think some of them barely could be considered tsundere but yeah

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 14:16:05 2012 No.10161123 >>10161097 >I personally think some of them barely could be considered tsundere I'd have to agree with you there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 14:42:05 2012 No.10161225 What the hell, they started to kill off characters in Terabeppin. I just want to fap ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 14:46:35 2012 No.10161235 >>10161225 Stuff actually happens in this game? I might have to try it then.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 14:48:50 2012 No.10161241 >>10161225 >that >That Creepy Alpaca >Creepy visible uterus bit during H scene Whelp.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 15:29:20 2012 No.10161421 Any good, action-heavy eroge that aren't too hard to read? Dies Irae would be my first choice but I have a feeling getting through it will be a slog. I've already read most popular stuff that's translated into English.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 15:32:35 2012 No.10161433 >>10161421 Baldr Sky, Ayakashibito. Dies Irae isn't what I'd call "not too hard to read".

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 15:34:35 2012 No.10161445 >>10161421 Ayakashibito or maybe Gekkou no Carnevale

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 15:39:35 2012 No.10161468 >>10161421 For something that was cited above, Dea ex Machina. It has some pretty badass fights

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 15:54:47 2012 No.10161549 >>10161433 >>10161445 >>10161468 Thanks for the suggestions, Gekkou sounds most interesting of those. Should have mentioned that I already read Baldr Sky, though it's the only untranslated thing I've read start to finish.

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 15:57:05 2012 No.10161571

>>10161468
And to that extend you could also recommend Venus Blood Empire/Abyss/Frontier for action too (provided that tentacles doesn't bother too much) as they have some baddass fights too, generally Nine/Dual -tail seems to have knack to write some decent action scenes imo.
Also Killer Queen/Secret Game too have some decent action and not too hard to read

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 16:08:35 2012 No.10161605 >>10161549 Appearance can be wrong, I personally consider Gekkou the weakest of them all. Though I do like it, and having Sugita playing the protagonist is certainly a good experience

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 16:15:35 2012 No.10161641 File: 752 KB, 3280x1080, ohboyherewego.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yandere best dere

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 16:30:06 2012 No.10161679 >>10161641 what is happening

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 16:34:21 2012 No.10161697 >>10161679 Someone is machine translating a game while watching a stream, from the looks of it

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 16:39:36 2012 No.10161712 >>10161697 oh

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 17:00:36 2012 No.10161800 >>10161641 what atlas dictionary you using?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 17:05:51 2012 No.10161825 >>10161641 It's funny because there's two Mikis on screen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 17:08:21 2012 No.10161835 File: 317 KB, 1041x655, in defense of paedophilia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] fuita

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 17:13:06 2012 No.10161845 >>10161835 Translate it weeaboos

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 17:23:36 2012 No.10161885 >>10161835 Do paragraphs not exist in Japanese?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 17:33:36 2012 No.10161913 >>10161885 The write up down, right to left, left to right, no spaces or paragraphs. They clearly give no fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 18:57:06 2012 No.10162234 >>10160706 I have to say it would be a pretty awesome twist if it turns out she faked her death and is the real killer, and Masaki's harsh reaction made her snap or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 18:59:21 2012 No.10162240 >>10161026 Dude, shut up. What do you have against Alicetale?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 19:01:36 2012 No.10162251 >>10161421 Togainu no Chi has a fair amount of street fights if that will suffice and you haven't already read it. It's a decent game, if not Chiral's best.

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 19:57:47 2012 No.10162450

>>10157611
Oh my, do I feel jealous. Would you mind telling us about it?

>>10162251
I can hardly remember anything about Togainu's fights and I read through it recently enough. Something about grimdark-kun and his brother being probably the most 'memorable' fight.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 21:15:06 2012 No.10162698 >>10162240 I was planning on dropping Alicetale until Erika showed up. God damn is she awesome

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 22:39:47 2012 No.10162954 [DELETED]

>>10162251
>>10162450
I wouldn't read Togainu for the fights if I were you. It's the type of thing that's pretty good compared to other homo VNs, but compared to VNs as a whole it's pretty mediocre. I played a a couple routes a few years back then dropped it once I reached the leather guy. It's my least favorite of the Chiral works.

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 22:41:48 2012 No.10162961

>>10162251
>>10162450
I wouldn't read Togainu just for the fights if I were you. It's the type of thing that's pretty good compared to other homo VNs, but compared to VNs as a whole it's pretty mediocre. I played a a couple routes a few years back then dropped it once I reached the leather guy. It's my least favorite of the Chiral works.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 23:30:22 2012 No.10163112 >>10159952 >Has the definition of "nukige" lost on you? I was referring to the "generic" part and the implication that Clockup's eroge are generic.

Anonymous Tue Dec 4 01:26:08 2012 No.10163481

Started playing Shikkoku no Sharnoth, been sitting there for a while now untouched. Really enjoyed Inganock and its atmosphere, so I guess I'll see how this one goes.

Does anyone have the soundtrack for this who would be willing to upload it for me? The only link I've been able to find is a megaupload one, and we all know what happened with that

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 01:42:53 2012 No.10163525 What do you guys recommend for VNs with good atmosphere that's mostly concentrated on story telling? I've played through MLA, Higurashi, Little Busters and tried Sharin no Kuni (hated MC too much to continue), and currently playing Corpse Party.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 01:52:08 2012 No.10163564 >>10163525 If you enjoy atmosphere then, like the poster above you mentioned, Sekien no Inganock & Shikkoku no Sharnoth

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 02:09:24 2012 No.10163632 >>10163564 Oh wow, sekien no inganock has some funky visuals. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 02:12:09 2012 No.10163653 >>10163632 There are also some nice webnovels for when you've finished those, which can be found via the translators site

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 02:12:24 2012 No.10163647 >>10163525 What exactly do you hate about Kenichi?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 02:17:24 2012 No.10163680 >>10163647 He's a massive dick. >>10163653 Thanks, I'll keep them in mind.

Anonymous Tue Dec 4 03:02:55 2012 No.10163871

Getting around to finishing a few games I've had on my backlog. Chronobelt is current, Kuuki is fucking awesome.

Also I saw someone playing JQV (it was definitely JQV, I saw Mei clearly) in my class today, of all things. Rather, I think it was Ave Maria, since I hadn't seen the BG in the core game. I wanted to call out, but I got shy about advertising that I actively play eroge.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 03:05:10 2012 No.10163878 >>10163871 What the fuck, people play eroge in public?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 03:08:10 2012 No.10163897 >>10163878 Ehm this is new generation...old fag.

Anonymous Tue Dec 4 03:10:55 2012 No.10163908

>>10163878
I do, but, only ones with predictable eroscenes and with low CG count (due to suggestive content). Though I generally avoid eroge all together and stick with all ages doujin galge, or PSP titles when I'm on the move. Specifically the least amount of art the better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 03:14:55 2012 No.10163921 >>10161885 It really is as bad as someone who writes walls of text.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 04:38:26 2012 No.10164135 Besides the new liar-soft game is there anything to look forward to in December?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 04:39:11 2012 No.10164140 >>10163871 His powerlevel must be pretty high if it was JQV considering it's been discussed only here and on that one vndb thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 04:43:41 2012 No.10164153 >>10164135 I don't think there's a torrent for the new x-change, so I have that, kimi e okouro sora no hana the moment I hear is not a trainwreck and natsuzora for background porn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 04:48:41 2012 No.10164166 >>10159532 this is what neckbeards actually think

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 04:50:41 2012 No.10164172 >>10164166 it's not wrong though and I shave every morning

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 04:54:11 2012 No.10164189 >>10150731 >No C >No D >Not Even F How will one follow good recomendations if there are no low tier/appreciated VN Or is all VN enjoyment/quality something subjective/ one will self rate/judge

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 04:55:26 2012 No.10164194 >>10164135 Well there's Taimanin Asagi 3.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 04:56:41 2012 No.10164197 File: 1.90 MB, 320x244, trippin.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10155299

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 07:33:11 2012 No.10164557 >>10161241 >Alpaca pls to explain

Liar-soft/Innocent Grey prerelease event report, part 1 Anonymous Tue Dec 4 07:40:56 2012 No.10164572
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>>10158851
>>10160878
>>10162450

Well sure!

The event was on Saturday (the 1st) in Sendai, and is one of a few joint promotional events that Innocent Grey and Liar-soft have been putting on for their new games. The other events were in Tokyo and Osaka, but this one was in Sendai. I was taking the JLPT in Morioka (the next big city over) this weekend anyhow, so the timing was absolutely perfect.

It was a free event, but to get in you had to have reserved a copy of Gahkthun and/or KnS 2. I'd already done that long ago, so I showed up at the store, printout of my preorder in hand, and browsed around while I waited.

The store is about the size of a closet with really close-together shelves and all kinds of stuff packed in there, and the effect was nice, like you were browsing through someone's eroge-crammed finished basement. I'd call it the most welcoming game shop I've ever been in in Japan. They also had a small doujin section, which had some games and some books but was like 60% Okujou no Yurirei-san doujinshi.

They'd made little displays here and there for big new games that were coming out; all were quite nice, but the Gahkthun one was AWESOME. One of the staff members apparently constructed a 3D model of Tesla's cybernetic glove thing, complete with a running clock in the center knuckle and blue lights in it that flickered off and on. Below that was a screen playing the promo OP, and hanging above were big portraits of the student council members with a panel of (handpainted I think) gold and silver gears. Fucking amazing, I want a portable version of this shrine for my house.

(Also that Sharnoth FV promo poster they have up on the wall there, holy shit.)

Liar-soft/Innocent Grey prerelease event report, part 2 Anonymous Tue Dec 4 08:16:11 2012 No.10164647
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>>10164572

(Let me apologize in advance for not taking very many/very good quality pictures. I'd blame my phone, but honestly I was just too nervous/full of anticipation to remember to take good ones.)

The event was scheduled to begin at 3. I'd gotten there a bit after 2, so around 2:30 people had started trickling into the shop. The crowd was decent size (by Tohoku standards) but not overwhemling; there were even three other women there that I saw.

At 2:45 the staff made a call for event attendees to line up outside, so we all moved into the outside hall (which was plastered floor to ceiling with posters and decorations and such; they had a giant reproduction of the Gahkthun poster covering the entire surface of the shop door, and I was standing right in front of a life-size Erika standup from Alicetale. I really should have gotten a photo of the hall). It was a bit chilly, although not uncomfortable, but the staff still came around to hand out pocket heat packs after we'd been standing there for a while. Everyone says this, but it really is the little gestures of kindness that make Japan really special IMO; you'd never see that happen on Best Buy's Black Friday line.

Liar-soft/Innocent Grey prerelease event report, part 3 Anonymous Tue Dec 4 08:17:41 2012 No.10164651
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>>10164647

There was a little bit of a delay getting started, but by 3:30 they were ready and the shop staff started leading people upstairs. They checked our proof of game preorder at the entrance, gave everyone a Phantasmagoria card of Tesla and Neon, and showed us into into the event room. This place was almost hilariously tiny; it was about a third the size of the eroge sales floor, which was quite small to begin with - with everyone sitting on the floor just to be able to accommodate all the people there, the room was only four seated adults wide. I'm pretty sure it was just part of their staff office that had been curtained off on two sides. That said, it was bright and homey like the shop, with Gahkthun and Kara no Shoujo 2 posters all over the room and a merchandise display table at the back of recent goodies that each company had put out, being watched over by this very cool papercraft model of Tesla's mech here.

At the front of the room was a low card table skirted with more posters, and once we had all crammed in somehow, the staff brought out the guests: Kuina Yanbaru from Liar and Anzu-sama from Innocent Grey (both reps), as well as Miki Sugina. They introduced themselves, the staff handed out cards for us to write questions on, and then the event began!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 08:24:56 2012 No.10164659 File: 131 KB, 650x488, guac_event13.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10164651 Whew. More later after I've done some of this report I have due. The TCG card image was of this scene, by the way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 08:28:26 2012 No.10164665 File: 66 KB, 640x480, quite literally in fact.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I am fucking jelly Are you in Japan as an exchange student for a year or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 13:50:58 2012 No.10165533 File: 375 KB, 800x600, I'm so edgy that I bleed maggots and semen out of my eye, but that's okay since I can conjure motorcycles out of thin air.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 13:54:13 2012 No.10165545 >>10164665 https://www.4chan.org/rules#global5 https://www.4chan.org/faq#worksafe

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 13:54:43 2012 No.10165550 File: 28 KB, 256x362, 2467.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 1 hour in it and it's look pretty plotless. Really, what's the point? Is this really interesting?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 13:58:44 2012 No.10165564 >>10165550 It's more of a trip into strangeness, I thought it was really charming But if you want a more "focused" raiL-soft title do Kagerou

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 14:22:28 2012 No.10165623 >>10165564 What about Albatross and Hanachirutani?

Anonymous Tue Dec 4 14:26:43 2012 No.10165633

>>10165623
I didn't do Hanachirutani but it's supposed to feel unfinished or something.

Albatross is quite nice but really weird on its own.
The protagonist is basically the biggest hetare ever and the writing is somehow even more hardcore than Mareni's other game
I'd recommend you to start with Kagerou, I think it's the one title that most people would like compared to the rest that are more of an acquired taste.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 14:28:28 2012 No.10165637 File: 39 KB, 256x358, 13660.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Talking about raiL-soft, was astelight ever uploaded?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 15:33:43 2012 No.10165861 >>10165637 Nope but it's available on dlsite for a pretty decent price. And I agree about Kagerou being the least polarizing of raiL's games, I'd probably recommend playing them in chronological order for most people

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 15:58:58 2012 No.10165940 >>10165550 It definitely meanders for quite a while at the beginning, but it gets really good starting in the second chapter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 16:57:13 2012 No.10166132 About to start Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai. What am I in for?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 17:01:28 2012 No.10166144 >>10166132 Awesomeness. Some people may find the first chapter boring (I didn't though) so if it is for you keep going since the second chapter is quite different

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 17:42:58 2012 No.10166281 >>10163680 >He's a massive dick. ...What? I remember him teasing Touka but that's about it. If you want to see what a dick looks like play the childhood friend route in ONE.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 19:18:43 2012 No.10166651 Are there any <10 hour VNs that are considered good/highly praised? Most of the popular ones I see discussed are quite long. I know that Nitro+ has a few short VNs, and I believe I've heard positive things about Wasuremono to Otoshimono.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 19:19:13 2012 No.10166658 >>10166651 WAsuremono is good, so are dra+koi, hanachirasu and saya no uta from n+.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 19:29:28 2012 No.10166694 >>10166651 Shoin, Atlach-Nacha, Eden, Sayonara wo Oshiete and Pandora no Yume can all be done in less than 10 hours are quite good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 21:19:13 2012 No.10167027 File: 246 KB, 1280x800, kajitsu 06.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Poor Michiru, she's too pure for these people.

Anonymous Tue Dec 4 22:06:43 2012 No.10167164
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Is Tsukasa's route in & generally considered to be pretty poor? I found it to be a snoozer compared to Riko's, doesn't help that the character herself was my least favorite. I do like her design though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 23:23:59 2012 No.10167444 I wanted to read Sona-nyl. Are any of the other WAB games required to read through first in order to understand the story?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 23:39:14 2012 No.10167486 >>10165637 No, unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 00:53:59 2012 No.10167769 File: 184 KB, 590x874, 514qqq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10167444 None of the games in the series are really that connected to each other, besides sharing the same world and the odd reference here and there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 02:58:30 2012 No.10168181 >>10167444 I'd at least rcommend sharnoth before. Gives you handy informatyion on the society and all that.

Anonymous Wed Dec 5 03:05:30 2012 No.10168197

I just started on Edelweiss, and, well...

Is there a patch to remove the 'friend' characters? I don't think I can stand this. The only reason I'm still reading is that I'm hoping their appearances will dramatically lower in number once the game gets going.

Liar-soft/Innocent Grey prerelease event report, part 4 Anonymous Wed Dec 5 03:13:30 2012 No.10168212
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>>10164659
Sorry, that took longer than I thought.

So anyway, the guests were seated at the front, quite close to the event audience; the mood was really relaxed and there was a lot of informal banter among the three guys in between the game-focused discussion. It was really nice, homey and fun.

- They opened with talk of the Liar-soft and Innocent Grey collaboration, which I'd been hoping we would hear about, but they either didn't talk about the fine details of how it came to be or else I missed it :( It was confirmed that the BGM Festival back in September was the first time they worked together, and it seems like the people from the respective companies just hit it off and decided, with that and also the aspect of their brands as being sort of unusual and heavily story-focused in comparison to the mainsteam, that a partnership made sense, so the dual release events are the next stage in that and hopefully the beginning of something more (I hope so too!!).

Here's a better picture of the top part of the instore display (not my photo; it's from Yanbaru's Twitter).

> fucking jelly
I c wut u did thar bro. (I laughed.)

To answer your question, I'm a public employee (prefectural government "international liaison", which is a fancy name of 'English monley'); have been here for several years but not enough courage to start going to events like this on my own until recently.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 03:14:31 2012 No.10168214 File: 378 KB, 475x652, 31892885.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10168212 err, monley -> monkey

Liar-soft/Innocent Grey prerelease event report, part 5 Anonymous Wed Dec 5 03:23:15 2012 No.10168229
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>>10168212
- What I did catch was the part about how the two companies' head staffers got together a band (the "Human Sacrifice Band" lol) for a one-off performance at BGM Festival. They wanted to include Anzu, but he has no musical talent whatsoever, so they decided to use him as a cheering section instead, and he ended up dancing while shaking maracas behind the rest of the band, and apparently stealing the show. A bunch of people in the crowd at the event were encouraging him to dance again, and Yanbaru and Sugina kept making comments like "hmmm, we'll answer that question/give out some more hints for Lot44/etc. ...if Anzu dances!" and asking the staff to bring some maracas and stuff.

- Liar-soft started as a big group of writers who got together to form an eroge company but then had to recruit the artists from here and there along the way. That's why they don't have any real in-house artists still and change artstyles regularly, and also why they tend to prioritize story and their games get pretty experimental/weird on that front, so their company is the only one who puts out things like oiran-pimping SLGs or the Steampunk games which are about 95% story and allegory and the rest is really non-explicit sex.

Or as one convo put it:
guy in crowd: "I was wondering why all your games tend to be... unusual..."
Yanbaru: "You mean (stuff like) Onna Yukizumo, right?"
(everyone laughs)

Liar-soft/Innocent Grey prerelease event report, part 6 Anonymous Wed Dec 5 03:24:15 2012 No.10168231
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>>10168229
- There was some basic discussion of the setting and plot for each of the new games, which was mostly stuff the official sites have already said, but Yanbaru made one interesting comment about how in the Steampunk Earth and Kadath up to this point, all the industrialized sociaties run completly on steam power, so the coming of Tesla to that setting is also the advent of electricity in that world and the other characters view him as this mysterious presence, something like a magician. I hadn't thought of that before myself, but it'll be cool to see how this development influences the world setting in general from this game on.

- Apparently Okujou no Yurirei was a really big hit for Liar, with sales far exceeding expections, so Yanbaru talked a bit about their surprise at its popularity and how they're now thinking of doing more games like that in the future. One guy asked about the possibility of a sequel or a similar game being developed next, which had a bunch of people agreeing, including the store manager (of Seagull Nagata-Chou, the game shop where this was being held; forgot to mention that before) - apparently he really likes Yurirei, which is why they stocked all that doujin. Yanbaru said it was definitely possible, and "we'll see about that after we get the Gahkthun sales figures, hint hint!"

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 03:25:15 2012 No.10168233 >>10168197 They do a little once the heroine routes start... but you're going to see a lot of those guys. Better learn to like 'em.

Liar-soft/Innocent Grey prerelease event report, part 7 Anonymous Wed Dec 5 03:26:30 2012 No.10168235
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>>10168231
- In this same conversation, Sugina mentioned that he's all for yuri eroge, and would like to do one at some point (to which I have to say only FUCK YES PLEASE). Several people reacted very positively to this too, with one guy bringing up the yuri Kara no Shoujo (空ノ少女) April Fools gag site; Anzu said people still ask them about that, so they see the demand for a game like that. Sugina: "I don't know when, but I intend to make it happen."

- Someone asked Sugina "how does it feel to kill off the characters you designed?" and he answered that he puts extra effort into making the ones who are going to die attractive and likeable so that the audience will be even more upset. (Anzu: "He always does that! When I was reading the prototype of the game and I would tell him that I really liked such and such a character, he'd kind of smile and say 'ah, is that so?', and then every time, a few scenes later, '......ohhh...'.")

- Some talk about seiyuu yielded the mention that male eroge seiyuu are a lot more expensive to hire than female ones, which I didn't know (the crowd sounded surprised as well).

- Anzu refers to himself in the third person, the moe-girl way. It has the effect of being quite charming.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 03:30:30 2012 No.10168246 >>10168235 >and he answered that he puts extra effort into making the ones who are going to die attractive and likeable so that the audience will be even more upset Definition of troll, awesome guy.

Liar-soft/Innocent Grey prerelease event report, part 8 Anonymous Wed Dec 5 04:13:00 2012 No.10168353
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>>10168235
After about an hour of talk and answering a lot of questions, they decided to start the janken game. These are a common and fun part of anime, game, and idol events and such, where the guests bring prizes with them to give away to winners who are determined by a big game of rock paper scissors - everyone who wants to try for the prize raises their hands, the guest will stand up front and call jan-ken-pon, then show their hand. Those with a losing hand have to lower their arms (honor system), and this repeats until one or however many winners are left.

Sometimes at events, they're really strict and you even can't continue if you tie, but the InnoGrey guys, proving again how awesome they are, decided that both winners and people who tied could move on. I'm not bad at janken but I was sure happy to have my odds raised 33%; you'd better believe I wanted those fucking posters.

Each company brought stuff to give away, so Sugina got up to display InnoGrey's first: two big posters, with the (stunning) promo art of Yukino and Satsuki, signed by Sara Ayumi and Mahiru fucking Notsuki (there were gasps of amazement and delight all over the room when he unrolled that one). Furthermore, they decided that rather than giving them away separately, they would give both posters to one winner. Now comes the part that I still can't quite believe happened.

I raised my hand with everyone else, Sugina called jan-ken-pon... and I tie, same hand (I think rock) as him.

Second round, I tie again, and like 4/5 of the remaining people get taken out.

Third round, I manage ANOTHER tie; all the hands I can see go down, and there's a soft murmur of "ooooohhhh" in the room; looking behind me, it's now down to me and only one other guy.

Fourth round comes, and all three of us play rock, so we need a tiebreaker.

Fifth round. Sugina plays paper. I play scissors for the first time. Other guy... plays rock.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 04:34:45 2012 No.10168421 File: 393 KB, 354x500, 20121203154415f95.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10168353 Congrats, can you take photos of the posters, don't mind the quality. Also bidaily pic, still need the first two.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 04:59:00 2012 No.10168471 File: 309 KB, 1456x2304, DSC04360.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10168469 oops, here they are.

Liar-soft/Innocent Grey prerelease event report, part 9 (warning: bragging herein) Anonymous Wed Dec 5 04:59:15 2012 No.10168469

>>10168353
I don't quite realize what has just happened. I sit there shock stunned for a full minute frozen in surprise and joy. Everyone is looking at me by now and I can feel my face turning red.

The guests all congratulate me. Anzu rolls up the posters and passes them across to me, and I stammer out my thanks as I accept them. Sugina comments that this is the first time that a woman has won the janken contest at any of their events, and says omedetou again; at this point I'm shaking a little in addition to blushing. I think I bowed and thanked them again but now it's all a happy blur.

The game continues with Liar-soft's prizes; they were in a rush to come up with something, but they got Hikari Sakurai (!!!!) to sign some of the double-A4-size promotional fliers, and they're giving away three of them.

I felt like it'd be greedy to try for them considering what an awesome prize I'd just won, so I sat the first two out, but I threw for the last one and made it to the second-to-last round of seven (down to me and four other guys) that time. I will probably never be this lucky at that game ever again.

One of the winners let me see his flier up close later, and she'd signed them (along with "yoroshiku onegai shimasu!") with fluorescent orange marker, and her writing is very broad, with big, every so slightly sloppy kanji. A little surprising since you might imagine from her work that she'd sign her name really boldly, Lovecraft-style, or in super florid cursive with a fountain pen or something, but it was probably even more endearing that way. Gap moe.

(The posters weren't like most glossy promos, but printed on heavy textured Japanese paper like art prints. I still cannot believe I won this shit.)

Liar-soft/Innocent Grey prerelease event report, part 10 Anonymous Wed Dec 5 05:15:15 2012 No.10168498
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>>10168471
Before the talk part was concluded for the day, there was one last surprise: a screening of the Kara no Shoujo 2 opening movie, which according to Anzu had just been completed two days ago, making us the first in the country to see it. Typical InnoGrey opening; it was gorgeous. Also features a burning tree at the beginning; wonder how that's going to play in with the game, since their abstract symbolism always ends up being somehow related.

Finally, the panel concluded and everyone thanked the guests with applause, but next they announced a Sugina signing for all audience; shop staff gave everyone a pair of postcards (same images as the posters) and then lined us up. Since the place is so small, the line wrapped around the room and back out into the entrance hall. Returning to the room, Sugina was seated at the front and was signing one postcard per person (your choice) along with your name. I wanted to say something to him but only ended up being able to sperg babble about "hurr you sure draw purdy ladies" and reiterate how I hoped he'd do a yuri game.

>>10168246
He is! He has a really wicked sense of humor and his answers to questions were so interesting. Also, he is really, REALLY cute. It's a good thing he became an illustrator in the end, because if he weren't drawing gorgeous kimono and dead girls for InnoGrey he'd be Japan's prettiest featherweight boxer now, and what a shame if he were to let his nice face get all busted up.
It was awful; I had several chances to talk to him and all I could do was stammer out thank-yous and fail repeatedly to make eye contact; I must have looked down at his stylin' jeans like three times as often as his face. (I was too shy to ask if I could take a picture of/with him, but those are his legs in the corner of this shot.)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 05:22:00 2012 No.10168514 >>10168498 >Typical InnoGrey opening; it was gorgeous Did it have Shimotsuki Haruka?

Liar-soft/Innocent Grey prerelease event report, part final Anonymous Wed Dec 5 05:35:15 2012 No.10168534
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>>10168498
As the signing was going on, Yanbaru and Anzu had set up a sale table at the other end of the room with some past event merchandise; Ritatsukin goods, the booklets and things they sold at Comiket (or at whatever cycling enthusiasts' event - Sugina and a few other InnoGrey members are big on biking and there's even a company team, which explains some of their merchandise, like the fans with drawings of Touko in a bike racing outfit), and stuff like that. They also moved the mecha papercraft up to the front of the room, next to a monitor playing both game's openings on loop, and brought out Sugnia's race bike with the back wheel decorated so people could take photos.

Most of the stuff being sold I already had, but I did snag a Steampunk 5th Anniversary book, which was being extremely cool. When the signing was done and the crowd was starting to thin out, the remaining audience members, shop staff, and guests kind of stayed there to mingle and talk, and I chatted a little with some other attendees and then thanked everyone, for the great prize and for coming all the way to Tohoku in the first place, before heading back to the train station.

Afaik they're having one last event at the Akihabara Denkigai Matsuri (...in Shinjuku. wtf.) on December 28th. This is also the first day of Comiket, so if any anons will be in Tokyo that day, you should really, really go. This one doesn't require a game preorder, and it will be fun, plus you coming to the event will show them how many foreign weebs like their games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 05:41:30 2012 No.10168546 >>10168514 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2aOq93t_PI See for yourself

Anonymous Wed Dec 5 05:42:00 2012 No.10168554
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>>10168514
It did; song is called 月の虚 (Tsuki no Uro; Hollow of the Moon).

The OP movie was just made public today at midnight Japanese time, so you can watch it now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJEfilR1wMs

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 05:53:31 2012 No.10168567 that was pretty cool, how was the demographic of the people attending? I figure both companies have probably something of an older fanbase

Anonymous Wed Dec 5 06:00:46 2012 No.10168574
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>>10168567
Younger than I expected. The guys I talked to, and from appearances most of the crowd, were mid-to-late twenties, with a handful of guys who seemed a little older than that. The few women in attendance were all quite young; one of them might have been mid-thirties (she was wearing kind of overexaggeratedly youthful clothing, with plastic accessories and striped long socks, which looked like it could be an attempt to play down her age) but the others all looked like college students.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 06:25:46 2012 No.10168602 >>10168554 The OP looks good but after the trial I don't know if I want to put myself through another Innocent Grey game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 07:08:02 2012 No.10168659 What games I need to play for some shota chara ntr'ing my girl?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 07:22:17 2012 No.10168670 >>10168659 Complets, but the girls are sluts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 07:54:34 2012 No.10168715 File: 143 KB, 1023x770, neon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Girl of the year all years. Days between now and the 21st just drag on.

Anonymous Wed Dec 5 08:00:03 2012 No.10168724
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Started Fal route yesterday.

I'm beginning to get the sneaking suspicion that something's not quite right here. Is she just kind of codependent, or is all hell about to break loose?

She'd be a very cute yandere, on the other hand.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 08:03:48 2012 No.10168729 File: 277 KB, 1580x1185, Collec_13.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10168724 Fal's legit, put down your guard it's ok.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 08:05:18 2012 No.10168731 File: 210 KB, 469x452, HIRONO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10168715 c'mon sakurai don't fail me now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 08:06:03 2012 No.10168736 >>10168729 If all of that is yours then you are a very lucky man. I passed up an opportunity to buy a copy of the game that still had the Phorni figure included a few months back. It was only like $40 too. I'm kicking myself now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 08:08:18 2012 No.10168737 >>10168724 she just wants to fuck. Too bad the game's all-ages.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 08:38:04 2012 No.10168772 >>10168724 I've been doing this route too, it's nice, but I'm nearing the end and I haven't found it particularly special, unlike Lise's route, which I enjoyed to a great extend.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 10:37:44 2012 No.10169017 I tried playing Witch's Garden to check its hype but somehow the game crashes when the 1st character sprite appears on screen. Is there a fix or something for this? I assure you that I'm not using a wooden computer

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 11:28:44 2012 No.10169142 >>10169017 If there's no patch from the developer and it's not a wide-spread problem (it probably isn't) you're fucked.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 11:41:07 2012 No.10169195 >>10169017 Did you try updating your drivers and codecs and the whole shit?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 11:51:44 2012 No.10169228 So, how is Kazoku Keikaku? I've seen comments about it being really outdated, but I feel like it's something I should read anyway considering its status among eroge fans, and for a taste of early Romeo writing.

Anonymous Wed Dec 5 12:26:24 2012 No.10169311

>>10168574
Are you Asian so that you blended in with the crowd or are you far-west gaijin so that you stood out like a sore thumb?

One thing I always wanted to ask an eroge developer was if they realized that the vast majority of Engrish they put in their games is horribly ungrammatical and if they realized that anyone who knew English cringes upon seeing it (though I guess this precludes 99% of their readers). Also, if they realized that they can pretty much fix all of their spelling mistakes with 2 seconds on Google.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 12:33:24 2012 No.10169326 New thread: >>10169324

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 12:38:26 2012 No.10169337 >>10169228 It has a very concise style that is really neat and really clash compared to your average text in eroge. It's also pretty heartwarming, it's not without faults though and it definitely shows its age. So yeah it's worth reading.

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