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VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sat Feb 23 21:37:59 2013 No.10528363 [Reply] [Original]

Visual Novel translation status

12Riven- 8/72 scripts translated
>Air - 16557/49522 (33.43%) lines translated. Seperate translation 60% done based on the old project
Aiyoku no Eustia - Fione route patch out, Eris 5% translated
Amaenbo - Being translated
Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "237/1966 original edition scenario scripts translated (~12.05%)"
>Aoiro Rinne - "Translation progress: Roughly 31%", 12/78 scripts edited
>Ayakashibito - 45903/50995 (90.01%) lines translated, 18358/50995 (36.00%) lines edited
Baldr Sky - Translation of new scripts stalled for a few weeks while existing scripts get revised. Overall progress: 23834/91443 (26.06%) lines
>Cannonball - 7591/36902 (20.57%) lines translated
Cartagra - Initial translation complete, future is unknown
Color of White - Being translated
Comyu - Next on the list of Ixrec's projects
>Concerto Note - 53%, 18% edited
>Da Capo 3- Translation Progress: 20%
>Danganronpa - Fully translated, demo released, 70% TLC, 81% edited
Dote up a Cat - 32.2% translated
Dra+Koi - all scripts translated and revised, 8/20 scripts finalized
>Dracu-Riot - partial patch released, 28373/53707 (52.83%) lines translated, 2 routes + common route fully translated
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia- 89.5% translated, third partial patch out
Flyable Heart- 4014/46412 (8.65%) lines translated in new translation project
Fortune Arterial- Prologue completly translated, patches for Shiro, Kiriha and Kanade routes released. Erika route 65% done. Haruna route 60% done.
>Grisaia no Kajitsu- common, Amane, Sachi, and Michiru routes fully translated, Makina route 832/1161 (71.7%) translated, overall 4811/5913 (81.37%) kb translated, 3315/5913 (56.07%) kb edited, demo out
>Hadaka Shitsuji - editing complete
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 16.4% translated, Yahiro 0.63% translated, Kozue 12.43% translated
>Hatsuyuki Sakura - 2741/38943 (7.04%) lines translated
>Higanbana 2 - overall 1430 / 5917 (24.17%) lines translated

VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sat Feb 23 21:37:15 2013 No.10528364

Hinomaru- 51% translated, common route patch released
>Hoshizora no Memoria Eternal Heart - 19.6% translated
>I/O - 167/249 scripts and 91/256 tips translated. Route A/C/D/D' translation complete
Irotoridori no Sekai - 43,365/51,100 (84.86%) lines translated, full common route, Kana, Tsukasa, and Kyou route translated, prologue patch released
>Kamikaze Explorer - Common route 100% translated, 50% edited
Kanojotachi no Ryuugi - 2735/28555 (9.58%) lines translated
Killer Queen: New translation started from scratch, 15/72 scripts translated and 15/72 scripts edited
>Kiminago - Released by Cudder
Koichoco- 51/404 files translated
Koitate - Ren and Yukino’s route patch released
Kono Mama ja, Ane to SEX Shite Shimau - 10.8%
Kud Wafter - 8358/33132 (25.23%) lines translated
>Kurukuru Fanatic - 17.62% translated
Little Busters - Original released, work ongoing with EX./ME content, now a joint project with Doki. Sasami/Kanata routes fully translated
LoveMail: 13.6 % translated, 0% edited.
Majikoi- Yukie + Chris + Momoyo + Wanko + teacher route patch released, Miyako route 85% translated
>Majikoi A- Sayaka 60% translated, 35% edited, Azumi 5% translated
>Majikoi S- Monshiro, Margit, and Kokoro routes patch out, Tsubame Route 100% translated, 65% edited, Momoyo 40% translated
Mahoutsukai no Yoru - 251.08/1221.51 (20.56%) kb translated
Maman Kyoushitsu - Saera Kanzaki and Honoka Mizushima routes patch released
Mirai no Uta to Tsunagaru Hitomi - 50% through the first past
Muv-Luv Altered Fable - partial patch released
Natsuyume Nagisa - 2584/38142 (6.77%) lines translated. 1682/38142 (4.41%) lines edited
Nursery Rhyme - 11218/34410 (32.81%) translated
>Oreimo PSP - Youtube based project, part 99.5 out. Kuroneko Route Patch released
Pandora no Yume - 20% translated, engine hacked, scripts need to be extracted
Parfait- Translation planned
PersonA - 16% translated
Popotan - 156 lines translated

VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sat Feb 23 21:38:45 2013 No.10528365

>Princess Maker 5- 72% translated
Rance 4 - 18% translated
Rance 6 - 51% Complete
Rance Quest - New translator working on it with overall progress 9356/110000 Lines (8.5%) Complete.
Real Imouto - 7001/16108 (43.46%) translated
Rose Guns Days 2 - 25% translated
Sapphism no Gensou - 59 scripts translated
Se-kirara - Being translated
Sensei Da-isuki 2- roughly 25% translated, still active
Shinigami no Kiss wa Wakare no Aji - Fully translated, 2 routes of editing and technical problems remain
SubaHibi - Down the Rabbit Hole I patch released, 35098/54201 (64.8%) lines translated and 34927/54201 (64.4%) lines edited
>Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 9- 10/18 scripts translated
Sumaga Special - KBs done: [1363.93kb/8131.54kb] (16.77%)
Tenshi No Inai 12-Gatsu- "Maho route fixed"
Tenshin Ranman - Prologue patch released, 816.4/4560 (17.90%) translated
To Heart2- 65% translated- "The final product is still years away unless I get more help. ", new alpha patch released
Touka Gettan - translation status: ~40% translated
Welcome to Pia Carrot 2 - 1st draft translation 35%, as it was found much of the script was originally not dumped
White Album 2 - Overall: 5087/70253 (7.24%) lines translated, Introductory Chapter: 5087/10769 (47.23%) lines translated
Yandere - Resolving technical issues
Yoakemae Yori Ruriiro Na - 100% translated, 54% edited
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 19.76%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 39.12%, Motoka 22.18%
Your Diary- Prologue patch released

Aroduc's secret project - On hold for now for technical reasons
Aroduc's secret project 2 - 431 scripts remaining
Rance Translations secret project - 82% complete

VNTS !!UcDDlzwANFs Sat Feb 23 21:39:15 2013 No.10528367

Official work

MangaGamer
SSSS - Done Beta, Winter release
Harukoi Otome - Through beta, Spring release
Orion Heart - In Beta this month
Eroge - In Beta this month
>Tick Tack - In testing
>Ef: The Latter Tale - First beta build back from Minori
Chou Dengeki Stryker - Announced, In scripting
Seeeki! Bukkake Bokujou: Announced, in scripting
>Todoroke Seiki no Daihatsumei - Announced, in testing
"2x SHS Titles & Secret 3: In Translation"
Touma Kojirou no Tantei File - matches year end hint
Kougyaku no Kishi Miles - matches year end hint
Imouto Paradise - matches year end hint
Innocent Grey titles talks on hold through Feb.
Talking with new company for story based stuff

JAST
Yumina the Ethereal - editing and debugging, "We will definitely finish it by AX 2013. "
Saya no Uta - 99% complete, have uncensored CGs
Hanachirasu - 99% complete
Django - Couple more months of translation
Kikokugai - Working out issues
Sumaga- 87.03% complete, going through retranslation
Seinarukana- New translator, translation restarted from the beginning
Starless - Work ongoing
Trample on Schatten- In translation
Muramasa - Common route complete, 2 of 5 chapters towards true end translated, uncertain what will come from the project
Steins;Gate - "QC Remaining: phone text", Jast may pick up the project

Other
Liar Soft would like to bring Steampunk titles over
The Night of Kamaitachi - release planned
World End Economica - Chapter 1 release planned at Fancy Frontier
Sweet Fuse - Being translated by Aksys
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread
A tracker for these threads put together by Tinfoil: http://vntls.tindabox.net/

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 21:47:14 2013 No.10528389 The best thread of the week is FLANlly here! xD

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 21:47:45 2013 No.10528391 >Princess Maker 5- 72% translated Looks like Christmas come sooner for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 21:49:45 2013 No.10528399 >Eroge - In Beta this month Its been in beta since December, what the hell is wrong with this eroge?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 21:51:44 2013 No.10528405 Hatsuyuki Sakura should be at 9.6% based on http://vnsociety.wordpress.com/list-of-projects/hatsuyuki-sakura-project-page/

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 21:54:00 2013 No.10528412 What is going on with aroduc and also holy shit the vn scene is dying. what is ixerc doing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 21:55:00 2013 No.10528415 >>10528405 I missed noticing that a project page was there, I just grabbed the most recent update from the home page, I'll be grabbing from that page in future weeks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 21:56:44 2013 No.10528419 Oh look, more incredible progress for Baldr Sky.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 21:58:30 2013 No.10528425 >>10528419 We'll be getting Parfait in no time!

Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:01:14 2013 No.10528428

And none of the projects I'm interested in are in green. Oh well. I guess I'll have to learn Japanese after all.
Also this >>10528425
Can we stop pretending with "Parfait- Translation planned" already? Insemination has already been warded off of it. I just die a little inside every time I read it. Every fucking time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:05:15 2013 No.10528442 according to random /a/ poster the altered fable translation is 60% complete

koestl !!poJpHap55vo Sat Feb 23 22:05:15 2013 No.10528444
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Don't suppose anyone on /jp/ knows how to install the Grisaia port on a CFW PSP? I'd like to see if there's any interesting added content, but I can't even get the thing running

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:06:14 2013 No.10528447 Aaaaand another week without english WEE being uploaded to the net~

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:06:59 2013 No.10528449 >>10528412 Ixrec is translating the summer route from Air. Check the latest update from Sheeta on Winter Confetti.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:08:14 2013 No.10528458 >>10528447 Shut up, you retarded moron.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:09:59 2013 No.10528462 >Liar Soft would like to bring Steampunk titles over What does this mean? Can anybody explain?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:13:44 2013 No.10528470 >>10528458 fuck you piece of shit stop shitting up this shitty thread thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:13:59 2013 No.10528471 So is Hatsuyuki Sakura going to be an entertaining nakige or am I going to read 20 hours of boring horse shit before dropping it like Rewrite?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:14:59 2013 No.10528476 >>10528462 http://www.steampunkseries.com/ -> About

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:20:44 2013 No.10528495 >>10528419 Rumor is that it's being worked on but the guy just isn't releasing updates.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:27:59 2013 No.10528511 >>10528449 seriously? it will finally be finished?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:29:14 2013 No.10528517 >>10528511 No. One small part of it will be finished. The rest is still on pace to be done in 2029.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:31:15 2013 No.10528520 >>10528517 he will most likely do all the rest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:32:00 2013 No.10528526 >>10528511 Ixrec is just translating summer route. Sheeta will be doing the rest. Check those: http://winter-confetti.blogspot.pt/2013/02/february-update.html http://amaterasu.tindabox.net/AIRstats.php

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:32:14 2013 No.10528523 >>10528520 Sure, bro. While also doing Baldr Sky, Muramasa, KimiNozo and curing cancer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:32:29 2013 No.10528524 >>10528520 I wonder how many blowjobs he will charge sheeta

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:33:30 2013 No.10528530 >>10528523 Don't underestimate our lord and savior

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:35:30 2013 No.10528534 >>10528476 Ohh, this looks really cool. I hope they do.

Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:39:59 2013 No.10528541
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>>10528511
No, all this means is that the curse of Air has now been extended to Ixrec. One of these days he's going to be run over by a truck or some other mysterious coincidence will render him incapable of continuing, rendering even Ixrec's involvement futile in getting the cursed project translated.

Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:41:29 2013 No.10528544

>>10528476

I don't know what to think of that yet, but for now, that's amazing news! Now the question is, who will be their localization team? JAST doesn't seem to be able to handle collaboration with Nitro+ already, much less anybody else. Mangagamer, on the other hand, might not have the resources. They're also not the right image for a company like Liar-soft.. I've also yet to see a translator who is able to convey the eloquence and style that is supposed to be characteristic of Liar-soft. Ixrec is a fantastic translator and all, but he's just not a writer who is able to breath life into a world as vibrant as theirs. I won't expect too much, but I sure am excited for more news!

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:44:30 2013 No.10528547 >>10528523 >Muramasa Does anybody know what's the status of this with Makoto? >KimiNozo I thought Ixrec said he would translate this if somebody actually went through the paing of hacking it. Is this true or am I making this up?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:45:00 2013 No.10528550 >>10528547 >paing I'm sorry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:50:44 2013 No.10528559 >>10528544 > Ixrec is a fantastic translator and all No, he's a fast translator.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:50:59 2013 No.10528560 >>10528547 I know he was planning it during the talks with age about an official release. Haven't heard anything outside of that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:52:59 2013 No.10528568 >>10528559 I'm sure you could do much better

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:55:30 2013 No.10528573 >>10528568 Probably.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:55:59 2013 No.10528576 >>10528568 You can't translate Latin better than me. Therefore, I am an expert Latin translator.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:56:14 2013 No.10528578 Didn't we go over how poor Ixrec is when it comes to accuracy a thread or two ago?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 22:56:14 2013 No.10528579 >>10528559 It's like you claiming your mother is a hooker when I call her a whore

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 23:13:14 2013 No.10528597 >>10528578 I thought the conclusion back then was that his translations were pretty okay but by no means perfect?

Anonymous Sat Feb 23 23:42:14 2013 No.10528631

>>10528578
Are you really going to bitch about his accuracy? A few things lost in translation and some grammatical mistakes are no big deal.

Quit being overly dramatic, at least he gets shit done unlike most other translators. You can't ask him to be perfect can you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 23:46:14 2013 No.10528638 >>10528631 We can ask him and his staff to be bitchy cunts when people try to help by pointing out mistakes. I don't think that's too much to ask, Sheeta.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 23 23:52:59 2013 No.10528654 >>10528638 Jealousy is unsightly thing, the_paper-kun.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 00:01:29 2013 No.10528675 >>Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke wo 9- 10/18 scripts translated My body is ready.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 00:24:29 2013 No.10528749 >>10528638 If I was them I wouldn't want help from idiots who bitch about everything and translate everything to "pleasure"

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 00:52:37 2013 No.10528825 I am a shoelace.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 00:58:37 2013 No.10528848 >>10528825 >shoelace You mean shoestring.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 01:16:59 2013 No.10528887 any new moogy-dono scandals

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 01:47:52 2013 No.10528953 >>10528848 You questioning my translation?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 02:45:14 2013 No.10529129 >>10528887 well yesterday he was pondering the effectiveness of the idea of using lines from oretsuba to pick up girls irl

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:03:52 2013 No.10529297 >>10528631 We can ask him to know common shit like 紐. Seriously I knew what that meant in my first year of learning the language.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:09:30 2013 No.10529310 File: 223 KB, 953x636, Otaria_c04_p24.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10529129 I never thought I'd have this reaction. I almost feel bad for not having the Japanese version.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:09:59 2013 No.10529313 File: 111 KB, 640x480, QUALITY.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10529297 Could be worse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:12:14 2013 No.10529319 >>10529313 isn't 友達 like one of the first words people usually learn

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:12:15 2013 No.10529315 >>10528412 >what is ixerc doing Ixrec taking time off between projects to catch up on VNs he missed and just generally rest after a long translation is nothing new.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:14:14 2013 No.10529322 >>10529313 This feels deliberate. Aside from the fact that "Stone" should be plural, of course. I find it hard to have the first two (kind of) correct, and mess up the easiest one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:14:29 2013 No.10529323 >>10529319 Apparently not.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:16:14 2013 No.10529328 >>10529319 All three are baby level Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:23:33 2013 No.10529337 >>10529322 Why would you deliberately change a line to add errors and alter its meaning?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:23:33 2013 No.10529338 >>10529322 Yeah, it's probably due to the character limit on a line, if you put friends in there it goes over

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:25:29 2013 No.10529342 >>10529338 Uh. Are you saying that there's just 3 characters worth of unused space between the last letter and the colon, or can you not count letters?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:29:59 2013 No.10529351 >>10529342 It's still wrong. The "collect" on the third line doesn't exist. So he decided to add it for whatever reason, and because of that, had to mistranslate the line? Something about that process is fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:30:29 2013 No.10529352 http://web.archive.org/web/20110321105434/http://visualnovelaer.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/my-life-as-an-eroge-enthusiast/ Reminder that Aaeru is dying and doesn't have the time to translate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:30:59 2013 No.10529353 >>10529352 Oh shit, man. You found an archive of it! You're my hero.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:34:44 2013 No.10529361 >>10529352 RIP ZUN!bar...

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:49:45 2013 No.10529380 File: 48 KB, 646x512, 1335351293907.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Talking about Ixrec, that was funny

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:50:45 2013 No.10529382 File: 110 KB, 1066x824, CC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10529380 Original version

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 04:57:45 2013 No.10529396 File: 27 KB, 330x240, Lenin_is_mushroom.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10529380 Ixrec confirmed for communist.

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 05:48:32 2013 No.10529485
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>>10529352
Holy shit, how did you manage to find that? I tried a couple months ago and it was impossible.

Anyways, it seems like /jp/ has been mindlessly copying what people said again, and it's really different from what people said. She didn't have 'just a couple more years to live', she had 15 years to live at the time of writing (which was more than half of her preceding life). She never left the VN community, she only dropped fan translation. Everything seems possible enough - she seems to have bad health, occasionally disappearing for days due to illness (recently she even disappeared for a month, saying she had been ill when she returned). She disappeared for half a year after the infamous blog post, only to return and continue posting as if nothing had happened - something which people later implied means she was bullshitting, but in that blog post she explicitly says she's going to remain on the enthusiast side, just dropping fan translation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 06:25:12 2013 No.10529552 Cudder is the one who use machine translators right? And I once read Dracuriot's translation was bad, is it true?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 06:41:57 2013 No.10529581 >>10529552 Dracu-riot isn't being translated by Cudder's team. The translator of Dracu-riot, insemination, knows Japanese but isn't very good at it. His past translations had several occurrences of mistranslation in them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 06:46:43 2013 No.10529586 >>10529581 Maybe he's learned how the Japanese Passive works by now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 06:49:42 2013 No.10529592 >>10529586 He still probably didn't learn not to use FUNEH MEEMEES in his translations though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 06:51:27 2013 No.10529595 >>10529586 It would be great if his Japanese improved because, if nothing else, Dracu-Riot's tags on vndb make it sound like something that I could enjoy reading.

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!fR8duoqGZdD Sun Feb 24 08:08:59 2013 No.10529702
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>>10529552
No, but we are interested in improving the technology. Imagine VNs being translated with 90%+ accuracy within days of the Japanese release. The balance of power will change, and the benefits to the community (with the exception of the now-obsoleted translators) will be enormous.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 08:12:14 2013 No.10529705 >>10529702 Haven't people been trying to do that for decades? I like the idea, but the difference between English and Japanese is immense.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 08:16:59 2013 No.10529712 >>10529702 >being translated with 90%+ accuracy within days of the Japanese release Not gonna happen any time soon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 08:19:14 2013 No.10529716 >>10528399 if you've ever made a game or dealt with programming (even when just changing small things like images and text) can lead to very fatal and hard to reproduce glitches and errors

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 08:20:44 2013 No.10529722 >>10529716 What do you mean by fatal? Do you mean a system crash, data corruption or something else?

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!fR8duoqGZdD Sun Feb 24 08:32:00 2013 No.10529733

>>10529705
>>10529712
It took over a century before people figured out how to fly. The engineers who built the first computer would not have imagined them to be what they are today.

(statistical) MT is largely an issue of scale; the problem is having enough storage and processing power, but that's grown rapidly in the past few years.

A less distant goal wouldn't be 100% automatic translation, but assisted; the system works in conjunction with the translator-operator, learning from him/her too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 08:37:16 2013 No.10529739 >>10529733 until you have these technologies, stop shitposting in /jp/

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 08:42:00 2013 No.10529745 >>10529733 Wouldn't that cost millions of dollars to fine tune? It sounds like something google might do at some point.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 08:44:29 2013 No.10529748 >>10529745 Tens of millions ARE spent on corporate and academic research on this every year.

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 08:49:02 2013 No.10529760

>>10529733
Is creating a statical MT system without fully modeling human brain even possible? There will always be new metaphors and such which would require some reasoning to get the trasnslation right. (Yeah, I would agree that it usually will not be the case, but still...)

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 08:54:32 2013 No.10529772 >>10529748 Really? That sounds cool. What companies are funding this research?

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 08:56:02 2013 No.10529776

>>10529772
Well obviously Google is (how else would have they created the translation tool they have now?), plus any other automated translation company and computational linguistics university research group.

>>10529760
Never will be perfect, but things can obviously be improved from current systems.

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 09:05:40 2013 No.10529803 [DELETED]

>>10529776
>Never will be perfect, but things can obviously be improved from current systems.
Makes sense. Will someone be made at me if I ask a few other offtopic newb questions about NLP and machine translation here, or maybe recommend a better place to ask them? I've been passively interested in it recently, but still cannot find a good place where I could ask questions.

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 09:07:10 2013 No.10529808

>>10529776
>Never will be perfect, but things can obviously be improved from current systems.
Makes sense. Will someone be mad at me if I ask a few other offtopic newb questions about NLP and machine translation here, or maybe recommend a better place to ask them? I've been passively interested in it recently, but still cannot find a good place where I could ask questions.

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 09:18:40 2013 No.10529827

>>10529760
Reasoning is one way to get the meaning of a phrase. Context is another. But most of all, the best option for machine translation will probably be samples from humans: see how humans (in articles, on forums, etc) use the phrase, then derive the meaning from that.

Cudder !MhMRSATORI!!fR8duoqGZdD Sun Feb 24 09:21:40 2013 No.10529836

>>10529760
translate.google.com is sMT, and although it's not particularly accurate, they did it without fully modelling a brain. sMT needs training data, its output looks like the training data, so perhaps training one on all the VN patches released would be something you could try. The other important thing is to always keep it learning, so if it mistranslates something you correct it and tell it a right translation so it can learn and use that in the future.

>>10529808
There is no perfect translation because languages do not map 1:1 onto each other. Are you asking about NLP and MT for VNs...?

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 09:22:11 2013 No.10529840

>>10529827
Yeah, but this would work only if the phrase has already been used and (probably) translated. I believe that our languages are complex enough that there will be constant influx of new phrases (especially in (not necessarily visual) novels) not covered by the existing ones, but I don't have an example or statistics at hand to prove this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 09:25:11 2013 No.10529847 When will you retards learn to stop responding?

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 09:42:55 2013 No.10529883

>>10529836
>sMT
> translate.google.com
I'm sorry, I mixed up "static" (as in "static binary translation") with "statistical". I imagined a "static machine translation" system as something that will translate any text without any human guidance or any other additional input... lol.

> sMT needs training data, its output looks like the training data, so perhaps training one on all the VN patches released would be something you could try.
Wouldn't this be too little material to learn from, seeing Google feeding petabytes of data to their MT and still getting mediocre results?

> There is no perfect translation because languages do not map 1:1 onto each other.
I would imagine a perfect translation as getting all possible meanings from the available context and adding annotations to words describing all lost nuances.

> Are you asking about NLP and MT for VNs...?
My Japanese is bad and I still don't know pretty much anything about NLP and MT, so currently no. But in the long run, assisting and simplifying human translation seems like the most fun and benefitial thing to with all this.

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 09:43:10 2013 No.10529884

>Ayakashibito - 45903/50995 (90.01%) lines translated, 18358/50995 (36.00%) lines edited
Nice, but seems we'll have to wait quite a while for editing to finish.
>Cannonball - 7591/36902 (20.57%) lines translated
Steady progress is cool I guess!
>Danganronpa - Fully translated, demo released, 70% TLC, 81% edited
Awesome. Will be nice to read this before anime is out.
>>Grisaia no Kajitsu- common, Amane, Sachi, and Michiru routes fully translated, Makina route 832/1161 (71.7%) translated, overall 4811/5913 (81.37%) kb translated, 3315/5913 (56.07%) kb edited, demo out
Can't wait for this, demo was fantastic

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 10:08:55 2013 No.10529929 Some interesting interview: http://visualnovelaer.fuwanovel.org/2013/02/the-unstoppable-downfall-of-the-bishoujo-ge-industry-interview-with-nbkz-producer-at-minori/

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 10:20:25 2013 No.10529946 >>10529929 Huh, I didn't know that CGs were that expensive to make.

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 10:25:55 2013 No.10529954

>>10529929
>http://visualnovelaer.fuwanovel.org/2013/02/the-unstoppable-downfall-of-the-bishoujo-ge-industry-interview-with-nbkz-producer-at-minori/

>nbkz: There is the idea that it’s all because of the pirates who free ride too much. I think not. The people who are unable to play our games for free will merely shift their consuming behaviour to other free content if they cannot play for free. People who have no money to give you will have no money to give you no matter what.

Wow, I'm astonished to hear something like that from a Japanese game creator, and Minori on top of that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 10:29:40 2013 No.10529958 >>10529929 >(goes on to say how CGs are much harder work than anime frames) professional article, it also omitted a lot of things or got them wrong

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 10:30:55 2013 No.10529962 >>10529946 Only because it is minori and Nanao Naru. >>10529958 ... I truly miss zepy's informative blog. It was the best subculture blog and one of the few worth reading because he actually got his stuff right.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 10:32:25 2013 No.10529965 >>10529962 I've never played any of their visual novels, so I'll just assume they have boatloads of CGs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 10:34:26 2013 No.10529971 >>10529965 Well sure but I meant that it's because the artist is popular.

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 10:40:11 2013 No.10529989

>>10529581
I knew it, they were two different statements. But I remember people complaining about Dracuriot's translation.
>>10529702
My question was a bit different. I'm not asking about your aim, but if your current translation is readable or if it's more or less as good as google's.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 10:45:40 2013 No.10530001 >>10529929 I believe he's overacting their current situation, yet it's sad to read it. Is eroge's situation in Japan that bad?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 10:59:26 2013 No.10530027 >>10530001 If it's that badly, there isn't too many titles each months

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 11:01:10 2013 No.10530034 >>10530027 What? So the number of the monthly releases has decreased?

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 11:04:55 2013 No.10530040
File: 92 KB, 220x200, subarashii.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

> Sasami/Kanata routes fully translated
Holy shit. Is there an updated patch available anywhere then? the current one I've got translates zilch of kanata's route, and a couple of lines of saya's route.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 11:21:11 2013 No.10530085 >>10529485 >I no longer wish to be a fan translator because I'm dying >Now I'm a crazy ass bitch >Also, I'm a fan translator again You sure, bro?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 11:28:26 2013 No.10530104 >>10528547 Doesn't has 'The latest Edition' of KimiNozo the same engine as MLA?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 11:49:41 2013 No.10530140 >>10530104 mla's engine is notorious for being an incredible pain to work with and required a lot of manual effort to insert translation

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 11:54:25 2013 No.10530159 >>10530140 That might be true, but it's already hacked. It wouldn't be more difficult than translating MLA a second time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 12:07:25 2013 No.10530192 >>10530159 you missed the manual effort part. the hacker swore he'd never work on the engine again it was such a a pain

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 13:07:40 2013 No.10530363 Rogue's already translated the demo of MGQ 3. That was fast.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 13:32:40 2013 No.10530440 >>10530363 It's one scene long.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 13:38:10 2013 No.10530467 >>10528444 Isn't it just a matter of putting the ISO in the right folder and running it?

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 13:39:26 2013 No.10530475

>>10530192
But those guys on /a/ and /anime/ already wrote a plugin independent of araltrans that is compatible with the versions of rGUP used in Altered Fable and Chronicles 01, 02 and 03, which with some tweaking could probably be repurposed for Kiminozo latest.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 13:43:25 2013 No.10530497 >>10530475 >a plugin independent I don't think you understand what a plugin is. Or what this one does.

koestl !!poJpHap55vo Sun Feb 24 14:02:55 2013 No.10530587

>>10530467
No, it's a two-disc thing where you have to run an install first, and it just doesn't work. After install Disc 1 asks for Disc 2, and Disc 2 asks for Disc 1.

I think I need the actual install data to copy over to my PSP save folders, unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 14:57:24 2013 No.10530801 >>10530587 Swapping discs on a PSP is weird. Have you tried different ISO drivers? You're using the "Disc Change" plugin, right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 15:05:42 2013 No.10530816 >>10530587 http://tieba.baidu.com/p/941647563?pn=1 Try this method.

koestl !!poJpHap55vo Sun Feb 24 15:27:54 2013 No.10530873

>>10530801
Using the Disc Change plugin does seem to switch the ISOs, but the game doesn't recognize the change. Just sits there asking for the other disc.

>>10530816
Yeah, I've tried manually extracting and copying over the files. Disc 2 still just asks for Disc 1.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 15:28:25 2013 No.10530875 >>10530587 disc_change.prx 2.6のプラグイン＋UMD ISO MODEをノーマル後は適当なUMD入れてdisc1起動 disc2入れろ画面でプラグインを実行した後UMD入れなおす

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 15:39:24 2013 No.10530916 I want to start Kud Wafter but everyone says it's shit, what do you guys think

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 15:49:26 2013 No.10530942

>>10530873
>Using the Disc Change plugin does seem to switch the ISOs, but the game doesn't recognize the change. Just sits there asking for the other disc.
Try the Sony NP9660 driver if you haven't already. That's the only one I could get to work with Clannad.

I've got it downloading now, so I'll see what I can do with it in a few hours.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 15:52:26 2013 No.10530951 >>10530916 Well it has sex scenes and it's by KEY. I think that says it all really

>>	koestl !!poJpHap55vo Sun Feb 24 16:18:26 2013 No.10531037 >>10530875 I don't have a normal mode (or a phsyical UMD for that matter). Is 6.60 PRO-B10 horribly out of date or something? Trying some shit from here http://blog.livedoor.jp/genzou_genzou/archives/24839290.html although no luck so far

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 16:20:56 2013 No.10531048 >>10531037 ６,６０proてノーマルないからUMDいれてもだめ M33いれてUMDいれてノーマルあるからいけるみたいだ

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 17:05:57 2013 No.10531212

I had the same problems with a 2 disc game with no save at the end of disc 1, disc change wouldn't work for me either. I solved it by using Light Minimum Edition for 6.60 as CF instead of PRO (they work in the same way, just install once then from launcher). Not sure it's even the same problem but just throwing that out there if nothing else works.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 17:17:57 2013 No.10531270 >>10530942 Just tried it and I'm not having any luck either, even after copying the data files in >>10531037 . Might have to try a different CFW.

>>	koestl !!poJpHap55vo Sun Feb 24 17:29:57 2013 No.10531331 >>10531212 Thanks! I ran a temporary 1.8 LME install and used disc swap 2.6 in OE isofs mode and finally got this working that was way too mcuh effort

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 17:32:26 2013 No.10531343 >>10531331 Did you manage to rip the CGs out of the pak files? I'm interested in seeing the new CGs but I don't have a psps

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 17:42:41 2013 No.10531396 >>10531343 I want to know what they did with the first half of Amane's route. At least they probably kept Sachi's お湿りなう

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 17:45:27 2013 No.10531411 https://akirascuro.wordpress.com/2013/02/24/annual-salary-under-3m-yen-the-truth-behind-the-unstoppable-decay-of-the-bishoujo-game-industry/ non-shitty and complete translated version of th eminori interview

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 17:50:26 2013 No.10531430 >>10531411 The guy's about as deluded as Aaeru is.

koestl !!poJpHap55vo Sun Feb 24 17:50:26 2013 No.10531431

>>10531343
Not yet. Asked someone who might be able to reverse the PAK format they use.

The image files may be in the same G00 format used in Little Busters (same company did the PSP ports), so if anyone knows the hex header for that file type, I might be able to extract them

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 18:37:04 2013 No.10531610 >>10529351 >>10529337 Maybe the translator thought it sounded better this way, I don't fucking know. It's shit either way, but I refuse to believe it ended up that way because he didn't know what 友達 means, which is what the poster was implying.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 18:41:52 2013 No.10531621 many friend, many dream

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 19:15:34 2013 No.10531785 >>10531411 >Fate/Zero >MLA: Total Eclipse >based on a Bishoujo games Is the article even worth reading? On an unrelated note, that open minded approach to piracy actually made me want to support Minori. I swear this was their aim.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 19:20:26 2013 No.10531809 >>10531785 Unless you're willing to spend $200 on every one of their games, they don't want your money.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 19:21:18 2013 No.10531813 >>10531809 Wanting to support them doesn't mean I'll actually do it, don't worry. I haven't even read a Minori title yet.

Anonymous Sun Feb 24 20:31:08 2013 No.10532008

>>10529716
if you go from ascii to unicode you can cause crashes when loading fonts and stuff, particularly if you code with really terrible arrays or bitmap fonts

otherwise there won't be anything 'fatal' with just changing the language or locale, unless there are encoding errors and other stuff which shouldn't really be a problem with swapping out some text...

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 24 22:47:08 2013 No.10532352 >>10531411 They're going backwards about console releases. They should release on console first and then release ero versions on PC if what they want is money. Not that I would be happy if this happened, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 03:11:12 2013 No.10533082 Hey does anyone know whether the new Dracu-Riot patch has been leaked somewhere? I would be very thankful for a download link.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 03:12:42 2013 No.10533087 >>10533082 Not that I know of. Someone on /vn/ was playing it and making fun of translation oddities he saw, if you beg hard enough there he might post it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 07:16:37 2013 No.10533325 >>10533082 I have it, but I won't share it because you started your sentence with "Hey".

Anonymous Mon Feb 25 09:18:28 2013 No.10533588

I have a question for the Japanese-speaking people here.
Would you be so kind as to tell me how one would translate this sentence: 体格はどちらかといえば大柄で、元々近寄りがたい容姿ではあるのだが、蓉司が圧倒される原因は他にもあった。
This is a quote from a game that I would like to play. I'm just not sure whether to read the Russian translation of it or wait for the English one to finish and since both groups have translated this sentence differently I would like to know which version is correct.
Thanks in advance.

Anonymous Mon Feb 25 09:32:13 2013 No.10533622

>>10533588
You should always provide more context, you know. Since you didn't I'll use my imagination.

Though he had a huge build and his appearance was the kind that people wouldn't want to associate with, there was other reasons as to why 蓉司 was overwhelmed by his presence.

Anonymous Mon Feb 25 09:48:13 2013 No.10533666

Thanks for the quick reply and sorry for not providing any context.
Well the translation of the English group goes like this "If anything his build was rather large and at present it was his large structure that was hard to approach, causing Youji to feel overwhelmed.", while the Russian one goes more like this: " He had a large build and was hard to approach from the beginning, even so, Youji had other reasons to feel unconfident around him."
So in comparisson the Russian one seems more appropriate I suppose?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 09:53:13 2013 No.10533683 Oh here's the context I forgot: "冷え切った瞳が蓉司を捉える。以前から苦手だと思っていた相手だ。久々に会って、改めてその存在に圧倒された。他の生徒とは少し違う空気を纏った生徒だ。薄い茶色の髪と瞳、褐色の肌。垢抜けた容姿に反して制服は着崩さず、タイもきっちりと締めている。体格はどちらかといえば大柄で、元々近寄りがたい容姿ではあるのだが、蓉司が圧倒される原因は他にもあった。 Thanks for your help

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 09:53:13 2013 No.10533684 >>10533666 Yes, obviously. The English translation is a trainwreck. Most likely edited from machine translation since they cant get any grammar right. May I know what game this is from and what group?

Anonymous Mon Feb 25 10:02:44 2013 No.10533713

The game is sweet pool.
The English translation is being done by some people from aarinfantasy while the Russian one is from Yaoi.desu.
Thanks for your enlightment concerning the English translation. I had my doubts about the quality of the translation after I heard that more than 4 people are working on it and am quite sad to see my concerns confirmed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 10:03:29 2013 No.10533717 >>10533684 Nevermind, just found its sweet pool

Anonymous Mon Feb 25 12:40:37 2013 No.10534108

>Futsuu's new ISP is range banned from 4chan so I suppose I'm the new 4chan conduit. A lot of things have happened, but finally, I'm pleased to announce that Futsuu is going to be translating new scripts again in a week or two and editing on the oldnew scripts is proceeding as normal. We're really, really, really sorry about the wait! Expect steady progress to happen again and soon.

Remember when Futsuu had progress updates every week, and everyone thought we'd be at least pretty close to a Dive1 partial by the summer?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 12:46:29 2013 No.10534125 >>10534108 Hey BS editor, what ever happened to this statement?

Anonymous Mon Feb 25 12:49:14 2013 No.10534130

>>10534125
Forget BS editor, what about the words of our Lord and Savior, Ixrec?

>It's been a long process, but he'll be translating new scripts within the next week or so. I told him in no uncertain terms that a long hiatus like this is not to happen again, so we'll see that things get moving along more smoothly again.

http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/79946421/#79971011

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 12:57:59 2013 No.10534156 >>10534130 That's fake ixrec

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 12:59:14 2013 No.10534162 >>10534156 Of course.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 13:07:14 2013 No.10534182 File: 36 KB, 523x301, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10534162 What now, buttmaster?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 13:42:01 2013 No.10534274 >>10534182 I believe you.

Anonymous Mon Feb 25 14:09:37 2013 No.10534483

>>10534108
>and everyone thought we'd be at least pretty close to a Dive1 partial by the summer?

I don't see what the problem is. There are still several months until summer. Maybe you should try having faith and keeping positive instead of being a "glass half empty" negative Nancy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 14:14:44 2013 No.10534517 >>10534483 Oh you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 14:15:16 2013 No.10534522 >>10533684 >蓉司 probably Sweet Pool

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 14:17:59 2013 No.10534537 >>10533666 >>10533713 Hahaha, wow, now I really have to wonder about their Togainu translation. No wonder they're moving at a snail's pace.

Anonymous Mon Feb 25 14:32:01 2013 No.10534617

Do the people that are waiting for Sweet Pool know that it would just take a couple of hours for them to read through it, at most? It's shorter than most common routes. Or holy shit, how can it take this long to translate something so short? I understand not everyone can operate under Ixrec-like conditions but Sweet Pool is very short.

Please don't mention Quartett! or the obvious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 14:43:00 2013 No.10534676 >>10534617 No, I'm pretty sure it's about 10-15 hours at least.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 14:57:01 2013 No.10534742 >>10534676 I could believe 10hrs for 100% completion if you read kind of slow, maybe. The game is really fucking short.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 15:33:15 2013 No.10534923 >>10534537 The Togainu translation is fine since it wasn't translated by the same people working on sweet pool. The same holds true for the DRAMAtical Murder translation.

Anonymous Mon Feb 25 15:36:01 2013 No.10534941

So,

http://seiba.maidlab.jp/entrans/list.php?file_list=yes&file_id=234&page=1
>lines translated completely at random in the middle of untranslated lines
>"her feeling is impact itself"
>"This is not the real yours wish."
>"It just don't die."
>"Guilt for the surroundings."

Time for F/HA progress to rewind to 80% again?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 15:51:15 2013 No.10535015 >>10534923 Really? I heard Sweet Pool was the same team. I've only seen some bits of Togainu but it had some pretty ludicrously elementary mistakes in the sex scenes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 16:00:46 2013 No.10535056 >>10534941 >F/HA >progress

Anonymous Mon Feb 25 16:08:46 2013 No.10535098

>>10535015
No sweet pool is being translated by about 4 people whereas Togainu had only one translator. The only thing they have in common is their editor who is busy with the Hadaka Shitsuji project at the moment.
And even if the Togainu translation was far from perfect it was more than just readable, in particular, if you compare it to the sweet pool translation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 16:20:30 2013 No.10535172 >>10535098 I guess I was misinformed then, sorry. Yes it did seem much more readable than the sentence brought up earlier on the whole.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 16:32:45 2013 No.10535244 >>10535172 No problem. Always glad to clear up misconceptions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 17:32:15 2013 No.10535494 >>10533082 There's a new leaked patch for Dracu-Riot? That's the first I've heard of that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 17:48:43 2013 No.10535619 >>10535494 When you live in a cave with your hands over your ears, you shouldn't be surprised that you're the last to hear things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 17:50:16 2013 No.10535634 >>10535619 Fair enough.

Anonymous Mon Feb 25 18:04:00 2013 No.10535718 [DELETED]

>>10528523
>>10528547
Assuming Ixrec!QIXaKKF7F2 is actually Ixrec, then he posted not too long ago on /a/ about the soon to be over hiatus of the Balds Sky translation as well as at least considering picking up KimiNozo if nobody else does, now that it is hacked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 18:17:31 2013 No.10535768 >>10529129 I've tried that with lines from other visual novels it only works if you're attractive

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 20:14:31 2013 No.10536456 >>10534108 They said the same thing in October. What's weird is that you still listen to these fools.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 20:35:01 2013 No.10536545 >>10535619 So, wait... Was there a patch released, or just leaked? VNTL definitely says "released," but Ican't find it anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:44:32 2013 No.10537700 Can subahibi complete before summer?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:48:17 2013 No.10537724 >>10537700 Maybe if Kirby started working on it again like right now.

>>	Kirby-chan !!x+mnmrU0sW+ Tue Feb 26 01:38:17 2013 No.10537855 >>10537700 Sorry, people are busting my balls already because I'm too slow. I'm weak.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 01:38:48 2013 No.10537856 Where's he now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 17:52:30 2013 No.10540799 So, what VN translation do you think is going to be released next?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 18:25:30 2013 No.10540922 Why, OP? Why do you keep ignoring the Higurashi retranslation? whenwetranslate dot livejournal dot com Their site was updated a few days ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 18:30:30 2013 No.10540944 >>10540922 Because only you (the staff) gives a fuck about that slow as shit translation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 18:33:01 2013 No.10540957 >>10540944 Higanbana 2 is slower. And I'm not part of the staff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 18:44:00 2013 No.10540993 >>10540944 It's a necessary translation of a great VN. The only reason people ignore it is because no one know about its existence. You are only making the problem worse. Why do you hate this translation so much?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 19:01:15 2013 No.10541066 >>10540922 I've never read Higurashi, so I'm curious why it's getting a retranslation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 19:07:00 2013 No.10541096 >>10541066 The official translation is a train wreck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 19:15:30 2013 No.10541121 >>10541096 So was it actually translated or did it use a translation program like the recently released official translation?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 19:22:00 2013 No.10541158 >>10541121 Off course not, the first four episodes have some lack of edition and overall they had to cut off some music because licensing issues.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 19:24:00 2013 No.10541168

>>10540993
>Why do you hate this translation so much?
I don't mind it as much as you, the only person who cares for it, keeps on advertising it, fending off people from reading higurashi as is by instead telling them to wait literal years for it because
>no heart
and while I understand that the original was lacking, especially the non-kai episodes, your posts take this whole shit too far.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 19:28:31 2013 No.10541182 >>10540799 Going to say Dramatical Murder, easily before the end of March. Maybe DanganRonpa after then that promised SubaHibi partial patch we were promised in November if the team gets their shit together.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 19:30:31 2013 No.10541187 >>10541182 If we are going with yaoi too, hadaka shitsuji any day now. Butler humiliation and 'rape' simulator shouldn't be forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 19:39:45 2013 No.10541220 >>10541187 Technically that's already been out for some time. Just the true route left to be released.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 22:22:34 2013 No.10541899 >>10540799 Baldr Sky, easily.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 22:27:34 2013 No.10541915

>>10541158
Music can just be patched in, you know.

>>10541168
I don't see any problem with this translation getting advertised, as long as this convinces the group to continue translating until they finish. The official release might not be as bad as everyones makes it to be, but it doesn't hurt to have a better version for future generations.

You have a point though. If anyone wants to read Higurashi and has somehow avoided spoilers up to now, there's no reason to avoid MG's release.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 22:31:34 2013 No.10541929 >>10541899 I'm pretty sure there will be translations released before 2029.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 22:33:34 2013 No.10541936 >>10541915 >Music can just be patched in, you know. Not completely, since MG's release is missing some tracks entirely. Nor can the minigame or staff room be patched back in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 22:51:35 2013 No.10541979 >>10541936 >staff room What? It's there as far as I know. >Not completely, since MG's release is missing some tracks entirely. To my understanding, the point of the patch is that it includes the missing tracks con MG's release.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 22:52:20 2013 No.10541980 >>10541915 The music isn't the biggest problem, you know?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 22:56:19 2013 No.10541985 >>10541980 The lack of edition is annoying, but it's not unreadable. I'll take that over HoshiMemo.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 22:56:34 2013 No.10541986

>>10541979
MG replaced a bunch of track with a single tracks (this was done many times), it's impossible to fix everything with patches.

MG's translation lacks heart and their writing sucks.

And the staff room isn't what you are thinking about. It's a different thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 22:57:04 2013 No.10541990 >>10541985 The typos aren't the problem either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 22:58:34 2013 No.10541995 >>10541986 >And the staff room isn't what you are thinking about. It's a different thing. What are you talking about, then? >>10541990 What is the problem, then? No, really, please enlighten me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 23:04:51 2013 No.10542008 >>10541995 >What are you talking about, then? It's a bunch of Ryuukishi's ramblings about stuff basically.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 23:05:05 2013 No.10542014

>>10541995
>What are you talking about, then?
The staff room was some kind of TIP where Ryukishi talks about Higurashi and many other things, if I'm not mistaken. I don't really care about it, but I miss the Music Room and the minigames.

>>10541995
Mangagamer's writing is shit. Compare MG's translation to Witch Hunt, Sonozaki Futagotachi and Ronove. Something feels off.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 00:48:50 2013 No.10542276 >>10540799 Yandere should be out soonish.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 01:08:06 2013 No.10542320 File: 323 KB, 800x600, 1345093604463.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Kurukuru Fanatic - 17.62% translated Excellent...

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 05:25:23 2013 No.10542945 File: 64 KB, 522x690, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does this mean Baldr Sky is dead?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 06:19:38 2013 No.10543036 >>10542945 Y'know, futsuu, "Ballr sky" was funny back when we thought you were translating at a fast pace. These jokes just aren't good anymore.

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 09:25:09 2013 No.10543329
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>>10541936
Constantly obnoxiously advertising your 'retranslation' nobody cares about is one thing. But misinforming people is intolerable.

The staff room IS ONLY IN HIGURASHI KAI. Higurashi 1-4 has the whatsitcalled where the cast discusses the episode with each other, Kai (5-8) has the staff room with Ryukishi talking about stuff (see picture). BOTH ARE INCLUDED IN MANGAGAMER'S RELEASES. Furthermore, the music patch restores ALL music, even the music that was cut away. The tracks repeated where different tracks are used in the original are duplicated inside the original files - basically, the references to the files are intact, they were just replaced with the exact same music file two or three times. It was possible to just reinsert the music at the proper places and the script was already configured to play the different tracks at their proper locations.

The only issue that Higurashi has that isn't solved by patches is the terrible editing in episodes 1-4; there was once a project called 'editorashi' to fix this, but I'm not sure if it ever went anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 09:30:10 2013 No.10543343 File: 24 KB, 718x481, MG higurashi soundtrack.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10543329 (screenshot of Higurashi's localized soundtrack; note the length of several tracks matching up as they are the exact same tracks)

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 12:52:12 2013 No.10543783

>>10542008
It's there. As far as I know, it only came on the Kai episodes, and the Kai episodes by MG have them.

>>10542014
I agree MG's writing isn't the best there is by a long shot. But I'll ask you this: Would you rather watch the anime and/or have it spoiled if you've managed to avoid it so far?

I mean, if the new translation were faster or closer to completion, I'd tell everyone to wait. But it's nowhere near that, so the best bet is to read the version that's been translated.

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 12:59:28 2013 No.10543798

>>10543783
I see >>10543329 beat me to the punch.

>>10543343
Doesn't that reinforce his point?
They didn't actually rewrite any code to remove the songs, they just replaced the music they wanted to remove by repeating other music. So the patch can easily do the reverse and restore everything back.

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 14:08:42 2013 No.10544023
File: 2.77 MB, 3600x1920, 1323107131491.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Speaking of Higurashi.

How do you get of giving it a B and then giving G-Senjou an S?

You might say that's because it doesn't include Kai, but that's a problem in itself. Where the hell is Kai?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 14:11:27 2013 No.10544035 >>10544023 G-senjou is Asceai's favorite eroge, don't ask

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 14:14:57 2013 No.10544054 >>10544023 The real question is why do you think this chart has any authority.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 14:34:28 2013 No.10544112 >>10544054 It doesn't have authority, but it's supposed to be a representation of /jp/'s tastes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 14:42:28 2013 No.10544146 >>10544023 >S, A+, A, B What's wrong with A>B>C>D rankings? Or at the very least, S>A>B>C?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 14:42:28 2013 No.10544147 >>10544112 What gave you that incredibly wrong idea?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 14:42:28 2013 No.10544148 >>10544023 >>10544112 If /jp/ actually cared about making a poll on their recommended eroge then I guess you could argue about it. But nobody has or wants to, so this chart is rampantly misinforming the lurkers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 14:44:12 2013 No.10544155 >>10544148 >>10544147 Because if someone disagrees they can just edit it, and by the end you end up with a chart that a lot of anons agree with. But the chart itself looks somewhat old, so I didn't even know who or when it was made.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 14:45:27 2013 No.10544159 >>10544155 You're new to the internet, aren't you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 14:47:42 2013 No.10544170 >>10544159 That's how these things usually work, asshat. The chart that gets the most reposts is the best one by the end.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 14:49:42 2013 No.10544177 >>10544170 So you are new. Did you come here right from Wikipedia, or from Facebook?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 14:54:43 2013 No.10544198 >>10544155 Too much work

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 14:55:42 2013 No.10544201 So what would be a ranking that could represent /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 14:56:57 2013 No.10544207 >>10544177 If I'm new to anything it'd be /jp/, and even then I've been coming for this thread for more than 2 years. What's what you're trying to say, though? Even if you were right, you're just speaking shit.

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:00:13 2013 No.10544223

>>10544170
>The chart that gets the most reposts is the best one by the end.

It's probably the third time I saw this chart getting posted on /jp/. It might be different for other boards like /a/, though I don't frequent them. Anyway, from my expierence people here wouldn't give games like G-Senjou an S or MLA an A+.

The only way I can explain why people here would post it is to drive the typical "gieve recommenz pls" people away.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:02:58 2013 No.10544242 >>10544223 I hope you mean that Alternative deserves an S and G-senjou the A+ (although I felt it was more of an A- or B+)

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:03:57 2013 No.10544252 >>10544223 >MLA an A+ I played like 500 eroge and would still put MLA up there

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:05:59 2013 No.10544265 >>10544242 From my point both games aren't great, but that's not what I meant. /jp/ just isn't very fond of both games from what I can see.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:06:57 2013 No.10544270 >>10544265 You aren't great.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:07:58 2013 No.10544272 >>10544270 Maybe, but you have poop on your face.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:07:58 2013 No.10544276 >>10544265 Depend on what you call /jp/, people in the untranslated VN threads are still fond of it as far as I see. The rest of /jp/ isn't that different from the people in /vg/ so whatever

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:08:42 2013 No.10544280 >>10544272 Don't make fun of my condition.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:10:12 2013 No.10544290 >>10544265 /jp/ isn't fond of anything once it gets translated, like always.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:13:28 2013 No.10544301 MLA is an incredibly well done work of art. Even if you didn't like it that much (like me), I can't imagine giving it less than A+. Or to avoid those retarded rankings, make it "less than 9 out of 10".

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:17:57 2013 No.10544328 >>10544276 One of the other problem is that /jp/ is pretty much divided in two. Do you guys want a ranking from those who go in this thread or from the moonreaders who just stay in their thread?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:21:45 2013 No.10544348 >>10544328 >/jp/ is pretty much divided in two. Make it three. You have this thread, you have the moonreader threads (either VNs or LNs) and you have the rest.

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:27:28 2013 No.10544370

>>10544301

I'd agree with that, especially considering when it was released. I'd rank MLA about a 9 due to pacing issues and a few minor quibbles. G-Senjou I'd give about an 8, maybe an 8.5. It was stupid in a lot of ways, but fun nonetheless (and Kawashima Rino is great).

>>10544328

Some of us go to both threads.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:31:42 2013 No.10544388 File: 1.99 MB, 250x228, 136199184561.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is this moogydono

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:31:42 2013 No.10544389

>>10544328
I frequent both threads. While I don't really care anymore about actual translations, I like knowing what's going on in the western side of the fanbase.

What happens with that is that if you get English-only then you're really limited, and if you ask at the General thread then you would be lucky to get 10 or 15 people giving samples or something and as I said, nobody cares about making such a chart anyways. I don't think we're that many over there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:32:58 2013 No.10544392 >>10544389 There are more people going in the moon thread than you think but a lot of them are shy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:33:13 2013 No.10544395 >>10544388 That's RedMachineD, he's from /tg/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:33:58 2013 No.10544399 >>10544392 Voices in your head are not people.

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:38:14 2013 No.10544423

>>10544392
Sure, but if they are shy would they also vote? I mean active contributors.

I also think there are plenty of lurkers by the amount of replies we get sometimes on mundane topics that are not actual untranslated eroge or news in JP. But I don't know how prepared they'd be for contributing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:42:44 2013 No.10544442 >>10544389 Just post your vndb ranking and call it the taste of /jp/ Can't be worse than this>>10544023

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:51:28 2013 No.10544491 >>10544442 http://vndb.org/u336/votes?c=all;o=d;s=vote Like this? Here is the ranking of an eroge_expert™

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 15:59:14 2013 No.10544527 >>10544491 I have to admit I chuckled.

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:08:29 2013 No.10544572

>>10544170
>The chart that gets the most reposts is the best one by the end.

http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/image/tqd4beVlg2TMClr-qGht0g

I guess that one is the best, then.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe "a lot of anons" do agree with it and you're just one of the outliers?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:08:59 2013 No.10544574 >>10544491 Autism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:10:58 2013 No.10544590 >>10544572 >Asceai's chart How horrifying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:13:29 2013 No.10544604 >>10544491 Loss' ratings are pretty weird, I bet he didn't read a lot of the eroge he rated. Or maybe he is the type who just rate after reading for 5 minutes. Well at least he knows Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:14:58 2013 No.10544611 >>10544491 http://vndb.org/u15/votes?c=all;o=d;s=vote True eroge_expert™ right there

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:17:59 2013 No.10544627 >>10544611 I've read less than two dozen VNs, but I can see that Moogy seemed to have enjoyed Dies irae (rating: 10) much more than the other guy (rating: 1)

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:18:29 2013 No.10544630 >>10544604 I could swear he had the first muv-luv at 10 before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:20:43 2013 No.10544636 >>10544627 Dies Irae is one of the greatest masterpiece of all times so Moogy is right

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:24:44 2013 No.10544650 >>10544636 Well, certainly it's exactly the sort of thing Moogy would love.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:26:14 2013 No.10544659 >>10544627 You could have a piece of shit that so long as it chuuni and obscure kanji and Moogy would give it a good score.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:26:28 2013 No.10544661 >>10544636 Alright, I'll take your word on it. The one paragraph synopsis made it sound like fate/stay night with Nazi mages.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:27:28 2013 No.10544663 >>10544627 Loss probably read it when it was an unfinished shitty mess at release that made everyone angry. Now it's a completly different game

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:27:28 2013 No.10544665 >>10544659 Thank god Dies is great then. I hope you guys won't start hating on it just because moogy likes it, as far as I know he doesn't go in the VN thread and people over there loves Dies too

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:28:14 2013 No.10544669 >>10544663 Doesn't explain the 6 for Asairo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:30:28 2013 No.10544678 >>10544669 Weren't we talking about Dies irae?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:34:13 2013 No.10544687 http://vndb.org/u12472/votes?c=all;o=d;s=vote This guy actually posts in the VN thread regularly unlike LoSs or Moogy. Or Futsuu and Koestl do too http://vndb.org/u14447/votes?c=all;o=d;s=vote http://vndb.org/u25770/votes?c=all;o=d;s=vote

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:35:13 2013 No.10544690 >>10544659 The highly descriptive and distinctive writing style Dies Irae uses is amazing. Especially for the newer editions of the VN. Only a fool would rate it below 8.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:36:58 2013 No.10544694 >>10544690 >Am I trolling yet?

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:37:13 2013 No.10544695

>>10544572
You missed the part where that works only when anons actually change what they don't like, like they're supposed too.

This chart is weird because it's elaborate and hard to edit, plus it's huge. I can understand why people save it even if they disagree with it, and why they don't try to edit it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:37:59 2013 No.10544698 >>10544694 Why would you think he is trolling?

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:39:44 2013 No.10544705

>>10543783
I'm not telling everyone to wait, they can read the MG version if they want. I'm just advertising this retranslation because it's way better and needs support.

Why do you want to be stuck with that mediocre official translation for all eternity?

>>10543329
>your retranslation
How many times do I need to tell you I'm not involved in any way?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:40:28 2013 No.10544712 >>10544694 DI is great. Not sure if I would give it a 10 personally, but it's definitely worth the praise it gets. Watch Ixrec try to translate it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:41:13 2013 No.10544714 >>10544705 >I'm not involved at all. I'm just a dedicated dick sucker and cheerleader for a project moving nowhere why isn't anybody paying attention love us love us love us love meeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:42:14 2013 No.10544716 >>10544705 >Why do you want to be stuck with that mediocre official translation for all eternity? I don't. This is my original post: >>10541915

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:42:15 2013 No.10544722 >>10544714 >moving nowhere No. Why are you so angry?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:43:46 2013 No.10544723 >>10544722 Why do you have so much cum dribbling down your chin?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:44:28 2013 No.10544727 DI only works if you can stomach chuuni. It's kind of a highly embarrassing work if you look at the writing without chuuni goggles on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:44:28 2013 No.10544728 >>10544712 >Watch Ixrec try to translate it. How horrifying.

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:45:58 2013 No.10544737

>>10544705
Just out of curiosity, why do you think the project needs advertisement? There's already an official translation out, so MG could throw a C&D notice for potential obstructions of future sales. You'd think that being as discrete as possible until the translation is released would be the way to go.

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:46:28 2013 No.10544742

>>10544727
I don't care for chuuni really but DI was just too well written.
To be fair my favorite part of the game was the development of the characters, especially the antagonists.
I'm still awed by the fact that the writer managed to make fucking Reinhard relatable by the last route.
DI has some of the best characterization you can find in eroge.

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:46:43 2013 No.10544744

>>10544716
Ok, then I'll ask the same question to this faggot >>10544714

By the way, the argument that "people will spoil themselves with the anime while waiting for the retranslation" is pretty weak. A lot of people have been spoiled already and most "fans" keep recommending the anime to everyone.

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:54:14 2013 No.10544788

>>10544744
Please reread. I said >Would you rather watch the anime and/or have it spoiled if you've managed to avoid it so far?
That "or" is pretty important there. I'm including spoilers that come elsewhere, not only from the anime.

>most "fans" keep recommending the anime to everyone.
The people who recommend the anime are the anime only people. There's no way to make them try the visual novel, and I don't think they deserve all that effort. Luckily, everyone on this thread should be outside of that group.

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:57:59 2013 No.10544806

>>10544742
The characters interacted by throwing fucklong cryptic monologues at each other non-stop.
Theres is zero "hearty" character interaction that makes characters relatable, every line has something to do with their ideological position or some other grand concept, these guys just can't fucking talk normally with each other. It's hilariously chuuni but that makes it more of an acquired taste than some kind of masterpiece you should recommend to everybody.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 16:58:59 2013 No.10544822 >>10544737 You have a point there. It needs advertisement but not too much. I'm just a bit worried. What if they finish Watanagashi and only two people care about it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:00:13 2013 No.10544827 >>10544822 Then they'll have increased the number of people who currently give a shit about it by 100%.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:00:58 2013 No.10544830 >>10544806 I loved the monologues, it's one of the reason I love Swan Song too. But I can admit this style isn't for everyone

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:04:59 2013 No.10544851 >>10544806 >Theres is zero "hearty" character interaction that makes characters relatable Oh and that's wrong, there is a lot of actual interactions too, they also can and do talk normally at times. You should reread it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:06:13 2013 No.10544857 >>10544822 It's number 25 in vndb by ranking. I'm sure some people will read it with that translation once it comes out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:07:44 2013 No.10544864 >>10544857 In 2028 when the whole game is out retranslated.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:10:00 2013 No.10544877 >>10544827 Why aren't you one of these people? If they ever finish the translation, you'll have a better version of Higurashi. How is this bad?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:12:28 2013 No.10544885 >>10544877 Because I treat it with the same amount of excitement as I would Burger King announcing that they've improved their french fry recipe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:12:28 2013 No.10544886 >>10544864 >people can't read the chapters as they come out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:12:43 2013 No.10544887 >>10544864 Come on, they aren't that slow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:13:43 2013 No.10544891 >>10544885 >they've improved their french fry recipe. Implying that wouldn't be awesome if it really was better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:13:43 2013 No.10544892 >>10544877 Honestly you could learn japanese and read it, therefore having the superior version of higurashi, in the time it'll take to retranslate it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:14:58 2013 No.10544896 >>10544892 >in the time it'll take to retranslate it. Nope, I don't think they can retranslate it in less than 2 years.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:18:13 2013 No.10544909 >>10544896 >>10544887 It took them 11 months to do two days of the second arc. They're not even on pace to finish Watanagashi before 2016, let alone the rest of the game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:21:43 2013 No.10544921 >>10544909 They can improve, find more translators, etc. You are too pessimistic.

Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:21:43 2013 No.10544922

>>10544851
He is not wrong. Chuuni is basically the anti-charage, characters are usually not written to be relatable.

And they really don't have a lot of normal conversations in DI, at times it's kind of unintentionally hilarious if you take a step back and realize the game fed you totally wacky chuuni-opera-metaphysics and rule of cool for twenty hours straight. DI is really fucking dumb but I like that about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:22:14 2013 No.10544929 >>10544909 That's why I'm saying, why are you quoting me too?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:23:58 2013 No.10544932 >>10544921 And you've got too much dick in your mouth to use your brain.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:25:58 2013 No.10544940 >>10544909 They are planning to translate every Higurashi game, not only the 9 main arcs. They must have an ace up their sleeve, otherwise they wouldn't be so damn optimistic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:27:58 2013 No.10544952 >>10544940 The ace is "being deluded idiots."

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:29:30 2013 No.10544959 >>10544952 Stop being such an asshole. Why are you so mad?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:30:13 2013 No.10544963 >>10544940 I wish they'd just translate the things that aren't translated first.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:31:28 2013 No.10544967 >>10544952 Not really, if you think about it, 40 years is within the lifespan of humans. Maybe they just know they'll keep translating over the years.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:31:43 2013 No.10544970 >>10544959 >Someone made fun of me for being stupid on the internet. Waaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh they mad waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 17:33:13 2013 No.10544978 >>10544967 They're not on pace to finish within 40 years. They're barely on pace to finish the already translated games within 50 years.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 19:55:19 2013 No.10545541 http://commiesubs.com/shows/ >Futsuu This is probably the reason why Baldr Sky translation isn't making more progress. Welp, yet another promising project ruined by the fansubbing cabal, I guess!

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 20:40:20 2013 No.10545735 The sadness that there is still no Ikusa Megami Zero/Verita translations

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 20:42:19 2013 No.10545740 >>10545541 Why is Futsuu subbing shows Mazui is subbing? Why is Futsuu subbing with Commie? Why is Futsuu subbing at all? Goddammit I hate this world.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 21:00:20 2013 No.10545817 >>10545541 To be fair, translating two shows means a few hundred lines of pure dialogue once a week. Translating Baldr Sky means close to a hundred thousand lines, most of them narration.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 27 23:36:21 2013 No.10546458 >>10545740 Easiest way to translator fame, with the least lines and the most fans!

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 01:20:31 2013 No.10546732 >>10545740 Does that fact that Futsuu translates for commie mean that he shares their "policy" regarding translations? I really hope not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 01:48:30 2013 No.10546796 >>10546732 Just the fact that he doesn't mind asossiating with them is a huge bummer. Specially when he's subbing shows that have good alternatives.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 03:50:31 2013 No.10547052 >>10546796 Given that he hangs out on #tlwiki, which is also frequented by herkz and DxS, it shouldn't really be a surprise.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 04:27:30 2013 No.10547102 >>10528654 Wow, I don't think anyone's ever accused someone of being me on 4chan before.

>>	Kirby-chan !!x+mnmrU0sW+ Thu Feb 28 10:06:31 2013 No.10547824 >>10547102 Happens to me all the time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 10:45:32 2013 No.10547902 >>10547102 Word of the month thing? >>10547052 Who is DxS? And what are Commie cronies doing there? I thought Moogy-dono hated retarded translations.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 12:00:32 2013 No.10548037

>>10545541
>>10545740
>>10546732
>>10546796
I don't mind how slow the project is going as long it gets done and is good, so I was pleasantly surprised when I found out about this because it meant I could see for myself if he was any good.
His Nekomonogatari translation was great despite all the retarded bullshit he put in there. It convinced me that Baldr Sky was in good hands.

Doesn't mean anything if he doesn't go on to complete it, though. Hopefully he proves us all wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 12:01:32 2013 No.10548042 >>10547902 >Who is DxS Apparently the master editor with all your translation projects up his sleeves. http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=User:DxS

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 12:35:31 2013 No.10548111 >>10548042 Is he also the guy who hacked all the PS2 extras and voice acting into duel savior? Because that sounds like something very hard to do and I was very impressed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 12:44:31 2013 No.10548137 >>10548111 No. That's Doddler, who is also everywhere, but just a hacker, not an editor.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 13:41:35 2013 No.10548302 >>10548111 >editor >hack

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 13:46:36 2013 No.10548315 >>10548302 I just had Tomato on the brain. I haven't seen a person capable of translating, hacking and editing since I read his notes while he was translating Mother 3.

>>	Kirby-chan !!x+mnmrU0sW+ Thu Feb 28 13:48:35 2013 No.10548320 >>10548137 Doddler is the crafty guy who likes to make sure EVERYONE owes him a favor.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 13:50:36 2013 No.10548325 >>10548320 What kind of favours can translators and editors give to him over the internet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 13:58:35 2013 No.10548346 >>10548325 Translating stuff he wants to read?

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 14:02:36 2013 No.10548356

>>10546458
At this point, I don't think you can get more translation fame than by translating Baldr Sky.

The only contenders to it on the "everyone wants to read this" scale would be KimiNozo (lol rUGP) and Key stuff (all of which is translated or being translated).

Not even Muramasa comes close. If I wanted everyone to suck my dick, I would have released BS 2 years ago.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 14:06:36 2013 No.10548362

>>10548346
Then wouldn't he only help people who are good translators instead of everyone, as mentioned in Kirby's post? Then again, that could explain why Aroduc had two projects at the same time earlier. I'm not sure why Ixrec decided to post what he'll work on until 2018 though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 14:14:35 2013 No.10548374 >>10548356 >If I wanted everyone to suck my dick, I would have released BS 2 years ago I will still suck your dick, if you do it now.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 14:36:35 2013 No.10548419

I don't really get the hate for Commie. Don't they usually just take other people's subs and do an editing pass over them? The releases of theirs that I've seen have been pretty decent for the most part.

Or is this another case of people who don't actually know any Japanese trying to criticize translations?

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 14:54:35 2013 No.10548473

>>10548356

In terms of Translator Fame, I think the top project was MuvLuv Alternative.

After that we have:
1) Baldr Sky
2) Dies Irae
3) SubaHibi
4) OreTsuba

Tie:
5) KimiNozo
5) Ikusa Megami

Possible Contender:
6) White Album

The final part of Grisaia, if successful, could also be up there. However, people seem to pay more attention when a translation has been desired for forever, but doesn't exist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:00:36 2013 No.10548488 >>10548473 I don't think anyone cares about White Album.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:03:35 2013 No.10548500 >>10548488 Nope. White Album 2, perhaps.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:13:36 2013 No.10548533 >>10548488 Nobody really cares about SubaHibi, Kiminozo, or IM either. Also, "IM" covers four games, two of which are ancient. You'd get more dick translating Himegari. People actually know that it exists.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:20:35 2013 No.10548555 >>10548533 >Nobody really cares about SubaHibi Uh, what? It's one of the most famous untranslated VNs there is in the Western fanbase. At least as famous as DI or Oretsuba.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:31:36 2013 No.10548583

>>10548555
No. It's barely even notable here and almost nobody but those who have actually played it can tell you a single thing about it. If you go anywhere else on the internet, you'll just get blank looks. Shit like Eiyuu Senki and Daiteikoku are vastly more widely known and desired than it, unfortunate as that may be.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 15:35:35 2013 No.10548591 >>10548583 I won't argue that, but DI and Oretsuba are exactly the same. That's the case for most non-gameplay VNs that don't have an anime, really (okay, technically Oretsuba had an anime, but no one watched it).

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:03:36 2013 No.10548691

>>10548591
People have at least heard of them though, but yes. That goes against the "will get e-dick for." There are a fucklot more Rance/Majikoi/Shufflefags and their ilk than the mythical breed of highly discerning fans saving up for what one group of moonreaders here or on #tlwiki put on a pedestal. You'd get a lot more e-dick even saying that you might translate one of them (as the Majikoi/Rance threads on /a/ or /vg/ with their thousands of dicksuckers show) than you would finishing almost any of those.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:19:35 2013 No.10548732 >>10548533 >Nobody really cares about SubaHibi >>10548583 >It's barely even notable here You're delusional.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 16:25:35 2013 No.10548754 >>10548732 Maybe you should step outside of /jp/ once and a while and remember that 99% of the already niche audience isn't the same as your l33t hardcore friendsters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 18:19:35 2013 No.10549174 >>10548325 Fellatio. Wait, I probably shouldn't say that since I owe him too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 18:27:36 2013 No.10549204 >>10549174 Which project did you work on?

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 20:48:35 2013 No.10549714

>>10534617
>>10534742
The scripts are really, really fucking long. And very well written, at that. Although the translators on Sweet Pool still have no excuse for just dropping it and leaving it to die, the amount of text is still a daunting amount.

It'll slowly progress over March, someone new is working on the rest of the scripts. Who knows how long editing will take them, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 28 20:54:36 2013 No.10549736 >>10548374 I know, but I don't want you to. Futsuu does, however, but for some reason he's not doing it.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 20:57:36 2013 No.10549746

>>10548419
They take too many liberties with their localizations. This varies between shows, but it's frustrating when they're told they're being unfunny/retarded with something and they just go "a translation that you disagree with isn't a bad translation" even when they're objectively wrong.

Also, their original translations tend to suck, but this mostly depends on the staff.

Anonymous Thu Feb 28 21:01:35 2013 No.10549758

>>10548473
MLA=BS as I see it. MLA has grown much more popular since most people have actually read it, as opposed to been told it's good.

>2) Dies Irae
>3) SubaHibi
>4) OreTsuba
>5) Ikusa Megami
This are /jp/ tastes. I'm not saying other people don't want these, but not nearly as much as KimiNozo or the Key titles. Mostly because they aren't as known unless you're already into VNs. Do remember that Futsuu is apparently gearing towards an anime fanbase.

Anonymous Fri Mar 1 01:26:36 2013 No.10550662

Since this might be the best place to ask: How hard is Baldr Sky to read in Japanese? I can understand about 50% of spoken Japanese in my animu, sometimes more if it doesn't involve "difficult" words. Stuff on the level of say - the KimiNozo anime - I can pretty much understand without the need of subs. Could I manage? I can into basic reading but I haven't really delved into Kanji yet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 01:39:14 2013 No.10550684 >>10550662 no

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 02:07:15 2013 No.10550759 >>10550662 Read in Japanese all of the games that have hilariously bad translations according to TinFoil. Then read a game of your choice. Now you can probably read BS.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 02:08:59 2013 No.10550763 >>10550684 Sage 50 posts after bump limit...

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 1 02:46:15 2013 No.10550837 >>10544023 >Higurashi Half the plot revolves around everyone being an idiot, you know?

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