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13061906 No.13061906 [Reply] [Original]

Would you be willing to accept more named male characters in 2hu? They can't all be adorable little girls right?

>> No.13061943

>>13061906
Huh? Anon, I can't fap to that shit.

> They can't all be adorable little girls right?
If Prince Shotaku can become an adorable girl, there's really no reason why not. Adorable little girl characters are basically a staple of Touhou - changing that would be like making the next game about modern-day Manhattan being attacked by aliens.

ZUN had his chance when he started talking about characters like Rinnosuke, Youki, Marisa's Unnamed Father... But he let the opportunity slip by and now there's just no way Touhou can be Touhou without its all-ALG cast.

>> No.13062808

>>13061906
You know what's weird?

Old men appearing on 2hu, the fandom did not freak out (Unzan on the game, Youki is still ambiguous, Myouren was scrapped later).

Rinnosuke somewhat serves as an adult figure in the official writing works, so the fandom is torn between hatred or being apathetic on him.

But the appearance of a teenage boy will enough to cause a freak out in the fandom.

>> No.13062850

>>13061906
Fuck off /tg/.

>> No.13062873

I wanna see Youki, to be honest.

>> No.13062960
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i don't care about genders, but men are ugly and boring
marisa is my boy

>> No.13063110

>>13062850
/tg/ has done more for touhou than this entire board has since it was made.

>> No.13063123

>>13063110
Except no, /jp/ translated the official manga.

>> No.13063145
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>>13061943
>I can't fap to that shit.

Really, anon?

>> No.13063158

TOUHOU IS A GAME FOR MEN THAT'S WHY IT'S FULL OF GIRLS DOING MEN STUFF SUCH AS SHOOTING EACH OTHER AND DRINKING AND LIVING THE THUG LIFE

FUJOSHITS AND OTHER DEVIANCY GET OUTTA HERE

>> No.13063164

>>13063123
Which one?

>> No.13063185

>>13063145
Too girly. Fuck off with your fake faggotry.

>> No.13063192

>>13063164
WaHH and FS.

>> No.13063598
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>>13063158
I'm not a fujoshit, I just wanna see more balance with actual characters and not faceless males or self-insert Gary Stus

>> No.13063611

>>13063598
Rinnosuke is basically ZUN's self-insert and so boring he might as well be faceless - does that count?

>> No.13063633

>>13063611
I want more than just Rinnosuke, though. He's alright, but you'really right that he's kinda boring.
I, for one, would like to see more done with characters like Youki, Tenma, and even Myouren.

>> No.13063639

>>13063611
How is Rinnosuke's ZUN self-insert?

>> No.13063643
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>>13063633
>you'really
FUCKING AUTOCORRECT

>> No.13063644

>>13063598
Then go write some in your fanfiction and leave canon alone, m8.

ZUN does this shit for fun so he doesn't need to pander to your anything.

>> No.13063661

>>13063639
>he didn't read the books

>> No.13063667

>>13063661
I read it.

The only thing that's remotely like ZUN about Rinnosuke is his knowledge and talkativeness.

And he wears glasses I guess. The guy is an antisocial fuck who dislikes cute girls visiting him and hates partying with little girls.

>> No.13063832

I don't really understand why ZUN doesn't just put some guy in there if he feels like it. I mean, he showcased several times that he doesn't give two fucks about what the fans think about his world. Remember how he turned sweet and meek Momiji into "Fuck you, I'm a fucking tengu" Momiji? Like that.

>>13063633
>Tenma
Now, now, let's not get too excited. Good ol' Tenma is still genderless (AFAIK).

>> No.13063934

>>13063832
Guardian Momi is the only canon Momi, I don't remember any "sweet" Momi aside from that small cameo in the Fairy manga (which she does laundry or something, this doesn't mean shit tho).

Also ZUN personally stated:
>Q: I heard that in Undefined Fantastic Object, there was going to be a boy character. Are you considering to make any boy characters in the future?

>ZUN: I feel as if boys get in the way of the game. I'd like to make boy characters in another game as long as the game was completely unrelated to Touhou. Boys would just ruin the balance of the series.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/ZUN%27s_AWA_Q%26A_Panel

>> No.13063968

>>13063934
Technically is not a boy. But rather an old man named Myouren Hijiri (sibling of Byakuren). ZUN felt weird to put an old man as a Final Boss because it's unusual, so he decided scrap it.

Or maybe he managed to put "Old Man" role as a certain pink cloud that followed a Buddhist nun.

>> No.13063979

>>13063968
>>13063934

>>13062808
I rest my case

>> No.13064004

>>13063934
>Guardian Momi is the only canon Momi, I don't remember any "sweet" Momi aside from that small cameo in the Fairy manga (which she does laundry or something, this doesn't mean shit tho).

I know, I know. What I meant is that imouto-chan Momiji was the popular interpretation that the fans had back then. ZUN, instead of pandering to this, basically said "how about no" and kept the character as she was originally envisioned. (Hopefully I made myself clear this time)

As for the "men" thing, I still find it strange of him (considering how he wanted to add Myouren at all), but whatever. As long as the games are fun and the music's good.

>> No.13064018

>>13064004
>Q: Of all the Touhou fanworks you've seen or heard, what are your favorites?

>ZUN: I do look at some fan works, but if I see something really good I get jealous. Also, if I ever did say I favored a fanwork in public, it wouldn't be fair to the rest.

>Q: Has there ever been a fan character that you wanted to put in a later game? Possibly Maybell?

>ZUN: Hmm… Well, I don't really watch a lot of fan works because I don't want to be influenced by them.
ZUN just doesn't care for secondary shit, though exceptions exist, like Touhou Soccer.

>> No.13064039

>>13063968
>>13064004
>considering how he wanted to add Myouren at all
It's more the case that he had the idea of "Myouren" from the beginning, since his characterization is based on an actual priest, and that what was he wanted to add so he turned that idea into a sister instead. It isn't so much that he had a solidified male character that he was prepared to add but didn't. This was just his way of fitting an idea into a Touhou character at the time, whereas with the next game he chose a different method. Miko being based on a "historically" male figure but "hey female all along" and having the commentary on the debate of Shotoku's existence, is somewhat of the same thing.

>> No.13064076

>>13064018
>ZUN hates the fancharacters. Probably because they're all awful.
Based ZUN.

>> No.13064183

>>13064076
Who are you quoting?

>> No.13069057

>>13063110
What has /tg/ done?

>> No.13069092

>>13063192
Do you mean Clarste? He visits here but we're not his first stop for posting translations.

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>>13064076
Wouldn't you hate shitty donut steels who glue themselves to your creations as 'sisters' or faggot self-inserts whose power/goal is making your daughters fall for their dick by simply existing around them?

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>>13063667
There seems to be an exception.

>> No.13069245

>>13069169
Context, please.

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>>13069245
Sakuya is Rinnosuke's girlfriend. Can't you tell by looking?

>> No.13069803

>>13069102
Not all fancharacters are Neko Scarlet.

>> No.13069817

>>13069803
Such as? Not trying to be elitist but Ive never seen a fan character I'd consider tolerable

>> No.13069821

>>13069817
Try Wade. A fancharacter from the touhou-project imageboard.

>> No.13069840

>>13069821
Can you post a picture or maybe a description? Can't find it on google

>> No.13069846

>>13069840
I think it's Fragmentation of Memories. Try googling that.

>> No.13069879

>>13069846
This is pretty long but I will try to read it and get back to you.

>> No.13069886

>>13069879
Okay.
Two things :
-Wade is a good character by that imageboard's standards. You may not like him.
-there was a re-run of the story called "Fragmentation of Memories v2" or something like that; avoid it and read the original.

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