Mahjong

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Mahjong Anonymous Tue Mar 15 18:50:14 2016 No.14927701 [Reply] [Original]

How to Tenhou:
http://arcturus.su/

Tenhou
http://tenhou.net/0/?L7447

Sega MJ instructions
https://sites.google.com/site/mjnetguide/home

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 19:05:23 2016 No.14927758 >>14927701 Is there anyone on the planet capable of handling tiles like that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 19:30:20 2016 No.14927858 >>14927758 I don't think you could apply enough pressure to the sides to keep the tiles from flying all over the place while simultaneously spinning them, much less at that speed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 20:47:23 2016 No.14928202 >>14927758 probably some yakuza

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 21:44:50 2016 No.14928419 >>14927701 2.0

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 22:01:21 2016 No.14928470 >>14928419 3.0

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 22:39:24 2016 No.14928592 Wtf my man, mis-discard? You ruined our NoName gyakuten.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 22:44:18 2016 No.14928610 File: 72 KB, 600x809, smuglunarbitch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >1790 So how's tokujou treating you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 22:50:22 2016 No.14928645 File: 924 KB, 2500x2641, 1384749043286.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14928610 >1770 >Still in 4 dan hell, slowly making the climb towards tokujou

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:33:26 2016 No.14928789 File: 284 KB, 332x650, Please Leave.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >4 dan R2077 >Joukyuu

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:40:29 2016 No.14928819 File: 217 KB, 263x368, 145614019.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14928789

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:41:47 2016 No.14928829 >>14928789 That scumbag is asking to lose a lot of R

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:50:08 2016 No.14928855 File: 45 KB, 600x450, 1206861846536.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] kusoge

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:51:51 2016 No.14928863 >>14928855 Who hurt you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:52:08 2016 No.14928864 >>14928855 The only kuso here is you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:54:33 2016 No.14928866 >>14928789 He's probably 5-15 points away from promotion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 15 23:57:14 2016 No.14928875 >>14928829 Went from 3rd to 1st on south 4. The R2077 got third despite not dealing in all game, so he didn't lose any points but probably lost about 5R.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 00:02:36 2016 No.14928888 >>14928875 >5R for 3rd Yea, that's a lot.

Anonymous Wed Mar 16 00:13:07 2016 No.14928922
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>>14928610
Doing okay. Sitting on R1885 after gaining a aggregate total of 30 or so R over 75 games.

Stats have suffered overall, though; deal-in rate has increased by nearly one percent while hand completion rate has decreased by half a percent or so.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 00:40:37 2016 No.14928996 File: 15 KB, 350x237, no.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 0+2+2+4 = 8戦 The heck I've been doing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 00:41:53 2016 No.14928998 >>14928996 Holy shit nigger. Get your act together.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 00:42:11 2016 No.14928999 >0:12 What the heck

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 00:43:50 2016 No.14929004 File: 55 KB, 481x516, comickaiji.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14928996 >-161

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 01:23:47 2016 No.14929151 >>14928996 1+2+3+5 = 11戦 My east only games tend to go better though with 7+6+6+4 = 23戦.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 01:25:02 2016 No.14929157 >>14929151 Sounds like you don't defend

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 01:29:48 2016 No.14929175 >it's another 3-man point exchange episode

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 01:32:59 2016 No.14929185 How do 3-way rons work in real life? Can't the third guy just stop himself from calling it and avoid the draw?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 01:53:53 2016 No.14929228 30+19+21+18 Not a bad month, but my deal in rate is still pretty high because I deal into a ton of cheap hands.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 02:26:37 2016 No.14929344 >>14929185 With real tiles, yes, a player can be that much of a dick. Of course, he'll be giving two players an advantage over himself. On Tenhou, you just can't tell.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 02:27:28 2016 No.14929348 >>14929185 And let the other guys win points? It's really situational, I guess. In some situations it could work, but nobody expects a triple ron, so chances are you'll jump the gun and call it too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 02:59:24 2016 No.14929464 File: 78 KB, 641x481, 1354572715929.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7E_-0R9IFM

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 06:18:41 2016 No.14929923 >>14929464 Is it possible to get a better hand than 7 yakuman?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 09:23:04 2016 No.14930617 >tfw losing every single riichi even when every single one is better shape and has more winning titles than my opponents I want to tell that my short run in tokujou was fun, but it would be a lie.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 09:52:08 2016 No.14930721 >>14930617 Tokujou is much harder than hanchan in the end of the day

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 14:39:22 2016 No.14931805 >>14929923 This example used Paarenchan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 14:52:29 2016 No.14931855 >>14930617 I lost because I didn't riichi enough.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 15:39:26 2016 No.14932025 http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016031704gm-0029-0000-0b94d298&tw=1 I thought I escaped these kinds of games once I reached tokujou. Wonder if toimen is on tilt. I yelped out loud when the game ended in East 2

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 16:50:16 2016 No.14932208 File: 416 KB, 480x270, 1439009096414.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Holy shit, after years of using Tenhou, only now I realize you can drag the white window around through the green bar at the top.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 17:54:36 2016 No.14932455 >>14931805 Does Tenhou not use paarenchan?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 18:08:13 2016 No.14932514 >>14932455 Tenhou doesn't use many optional yaku, including renhou and paarenchan.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 18:25:46 2016 No.14932566 >>14932455 Paarenchan is shit. Imagine getting yakuman with a bullshit cheap hand after 7 abortive/exhaustive draws. Fuck that shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 18:27:23 2016 No.14932568 File: 9 KB, 309x250, 1353982548121.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14932208 Well shit. Even the chat window.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 20:28:18 2016 No.14933064 File: 316 KB, 817x589, help.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can someone translate this black box?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 20:37:34 2016 No.14933099 >>14933064 今月の獲得回数上限に達しました You reached some kind of monthly limit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 20:39:58 2016 No.14933109 >>14933099 Oh I see. Thanks

Anonymous Wed Mar 16 20:58:41 2016 No.14933189

>>14932566
That's not the rule. At least I don't think it is. Paarenchan requires 8 consecutive WINS, which means one abortive draw will fuck it up. Pretty tough actually especially if the dealer's hands are tied. I think some mahjong video games let you do paarenchan with just 8 honba, but I think it's standard (for a nonstandard rule go figure) that you gotta win eight times, and furthermore: 8 times as dealer.
The closest I ever got was 7. Those bastards were onto me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 21:47:22 2016 No.14933366 >>14927701 3.0

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:29:45 2016 No.14933662 File: 102 KB, 1280x720, 1449677156168.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14928789 >4 dan R2075 >5 dan R1839 >Same game >In fucking Joukyuu Ok I think it's time to stop for the day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:30:58 2016 No.14933668 File: 478 KB, 734x624, Screenshot from 2016-03-16 23:30:22.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WWYD?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:37:15 2016 No.14933686 >>14933668 3p or 8m, I'd probably go 3p. B is almost certainly looking for honitsu.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:37:52 2016 No.14933688 >>14933668 8m.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:50:36 2016 No.14933719 >>14933668 2m But you were kinda fucked there

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 16 23:56:33 2016 No.14933743 >>14933686 >>14933688 >>14933719 Any of you have explanations? In the actual game I panicked and cut the 4s because it was half-suji against toimen, completely forgetting about the honitsu until the moment I clicked the tile. It passed though

Anonymous Thu Mar 17 00:00:12 2016 No.14933752

>>14933743
If I had to guess their reasons, probably because two 7m and one 8m are out, which makes the 6-7m sequence less likely to have. Of course, if they have 3-4-5-6-7m, you're screwed that way too.

What was the riichi waiting on? I'm going to go ahead and bet on 3-6p.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 00:01:51 2016 No.14933756 >>14933719 >2m >Discarding a tile adjacent to a riichi discard Someone likes dealing in I see

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 00:02:32 2016 No.14933759 >>14933743 You gotta post the hand with this kinda thing. >>14933752 I'll bet on 5/8 sou

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 00:03:12 2016 No.14933761 I bet on 2-5man

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 00:04:29 2016 No.14933767 File: 511 KB, 740x634, 1458187469764.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You all lose.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 00:07:23 2016 No.14933777 File: 380 KB, 1042x579, off.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14933767

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 00:08:13 2016 No.14933781 >>14933767 >concealed closed wait itsuu sometimes it's just not your day

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 00:09:52 2016 No.14933785 3:0

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 00:11:14 2016 No.14933787 >>14933785 >quick ton nty

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 00:11:26 2016 No.14933788 >>14933686 Look at how many 2p and 1ps were discarded. As someone pointed out kamicha is probably lookin for a honitsu. You don't even need to look at >>14933767 to notice that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 00:23:31 2016 No.14933821 >>14933756 What kind of a form would that be? With middle tiles it makes sense, since with 556 you'd discard 5 and wait for 4-7, but you can't wait for 2 after discarding 1 from 112.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 00:26:36 2016 No.14933830 >>14933821 1-3m, discarding 1m upon drawing 4m.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 00:26:47 2016 No.14933831 >>14933821 113 maybe? Not him

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 00:32:30 2016 No.14933849 >>14933821 12234 with no other pair, this happens quite a bit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 00:34:32 2016 No.14933855 File: 135 KB, 807x861, 1451240699271.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >NoName deals into a pinfu only hand in East 1 >Disconnects >Ruins the entire game since it turns into 3p with free deal in machine Fucking NoNames.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 01:27:30 2016 No.14933959 File: 80 KB, 484x465, 1456729581688.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14933855 Why are NoNames allowed in L0000?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 01:36:41 2016 No.14933973 >>14933959 Because he's playing in ippan for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 01:57:24 2016 No.14934002 >>14933668 Absolutely none of the souzu for now. 8-man, due to two discarded 7's. Partial kabe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 02:05:24 2016 No.14934023 File: 206 KB, 580x470, ywuwxd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This took me some time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 02:23:53 2016 No.14934094 >>14933959 At least, they're limited to Ippan. Also: >ever scoring yakuman as a NoName None of those count for shit. I hope none of you do that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 02:59:32 2016 No.14934187 >>14934094 The app crack used to be able to break through ippan. I had some games few years back as NoName there. http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2013110306gm-0089-0000-5c82c790&tw=0

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 04:37:05 2016 No.14934338 1:0

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 06:50:53 2016 No.14934537 >>14934338 >0:0

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 07:36:09 2016 No.14934633 I'm up for a game if anyone's awake.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 07:55:23 2016 No.14934690 File: 495 KB, 1366x736, Urauraura.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Even when it benefits you uradora is still bullshit

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 08:05:35 2016 No.14934712 3:0

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 08:05:42 2016 No.14934714 >>14933855 People like that grow into people like this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 08:07:53 2016 No.14934722 File: 392 KB, 735x629, Fucking 4 dans.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14933855 People like that grow into people like this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 08:26:41 2016 No.14934752 >>14934633 I am now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 08:29:58 2016 No.14934757 Thanks for that Noname. I've been having a hard time in L0 and I need that laugh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 08:52:28 2016 No.14934797 >>14934757 Sure thing, buddy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 08:59:43 2016 No.14934816 File: 88 KB, 1024x901, 42c63800282d2c323237e1bfd3c58c03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14934690 >complaining about ura while playing with red fives

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 09:01:57 2016 No.14934822 >>14934816 >on average will obtain one red five a game, an absolute max of 4, have to make use of it in hand >you can get a gorillion uradora at any time

Anonymous Thu Mar 17 09:06:00 2016 No.14934832
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>>14934690
>>14934822
It's a good trade off. Whenever you call riichi you're putting yourself at risk. You have a much higher chance at dealing in and you can't change your hand to adapt to future situations. If you deal into a hand with a gorillion ura-dora it's your fault.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 09:11:16 2016 No.14934848 >>14934832 I understand why it's there, but being able to turn a trash hand into mangan+ just seems silly for how often it seems to happen. Don't a lot of professional rulesets ignore them?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 09:28:39 2016 No.14934894 >>14934848 JPML has two sets of rules. First removes uradora, kandora, red dora and ippatsu. Second is basically tenhou.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 09:31:42 2016 No.14934899 >>14934894 I think I'd like that, heavy yaku focus rather than tanyao/yakuhai+dora

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 09:34:21 2016 No.14934902 >>14934899 People also say that they made this ruleset to make rigging matches and pot splitting easier since you can just deal into your partner's hand if things get dangerous.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 09:36:23 2016 No.14934906 >>14934902 Hey, whatever works. Wouldn't it be obvious to observers if that was happening though?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 09:42:51 2016 No.14934916 >>14934906 Why? Anybody can deal in. It's way more obvious when somebody passes on a winning tile, which happened to founders of JPLM.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 09:44:39 2016 No.14934921 >>14934916 Yeah but at a higher level if someone if making shitty discards people would know?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 09:46:37 2016 No.14934924 >>14934921 Making shitty discards is not against the rules.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 09:48:43 2016 No.14934926 >>14934924 But I'm assuming rigging a tournament with a partner is. Or are they run in pairs? I don't really follow professional mahjong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 09:50:51 2016 No.14934930 >>14934926 Shitty discard cannot be used to prove collusion Not to mention that it's usually higher ups who set stuff up

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 09:52:29 2016 No.14934932 Why is mahjong so rigged? In jansou everyone cheats. In tournaments everyone cheats. Where do you go to play a real game of mahjong in Japan?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 09:53:23 2016 No.14934933 >>14934930 "I thought the live dora would pass through ippatsu" doesn't wash even in ippan, it'd still be odd.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 10:00:34 2016 No.14934950 >>14934933 Nah, actually digital playstyle is considered boring by some people

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 10:02:19 2016 No.14934956 >>14934950 I don't think a tiles group even exists in my country, I wouldn't know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 10:07:03 2016 No.14934964 >>14933743 I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as half suji

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 10:09:00 2016 No.14934966 >>14934964 Yeah, I thought it was common knowledge that the middle tile in the suji was only safe if both outer ones are gone

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 10:09:13 2016 No.14934967 >>14934956 Just posting stuff I saw on the net, don't take it at face value

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 10:10:01 2016 No.14934971 >>14934967 I take everything I read here very seriously, you should be more careful!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 10:11:23 2016 No.14934974 >>14934950 Only old superstitious Japanese men with dementia, they don't count.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 10:34:21 2016 No.14935024 Is your play style probability or luck-based? Personally I say fuck probability. You gotta risk big to win big.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 10:36:11 2016 No.14935029 >>14935024 When I risk big I usually lose big

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 11:20:01 2016 No.14935122 >>14935024 Luck. I go for hell waits way too often and they usually work out. I do like having multiple waits though since my hands tend to be really bad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 11:52:28 2016 No.14935194 >>14935024 I'm a probaby. Used to go for harder waits simply because they yield bigger scores, but nowadays I've gone digital. I feel like winning more smaller hands goes further in the long run than winning one or two big hands.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 13:06:03 2016 No.14935362 >>14934722 >7000 points >quits That 4-dan doesn't deserve to be one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 14:11:48 2016 No.14935497 >>14935024 Probability, but very aggressive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 14:17:00 2016 No.14935517 File: 278 KB, 640x368, 6130_original.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14935024 >I say fuck probability Hope you're enjoying ippan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 14:24:40 2016 No.14935536 >>14935024 Probability until i get into a flow and then all occult baby

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 14:57:34 2016 No.14935629 File: 353 KB, 600x656, au.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14935536 trakss-style, baby. Living on the edge.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 14:59:53 2016 No.14935637 File: 171 KB, 315x439, danke.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016031803gm-0009-0000-c6f12603&tw=3 For once, the gods of mahjong decided to smile upon me. I feel like I really deserved this victory.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 15:05:14 2016 No.14935666 >>14935637 You didn't deal in all game so yes you deserved it, although if C took the single wait he would've won. There was no reason for you to riichi in south 4 though.

Anonymous Thu Mar 17 15:25:15 2016 No.14935747

>>14935666
I should clarify, in the second south 4 there was no reason to riichi (the first south 4 was correct) because if you made your hand you already had first locked up. Dumping an extra 1000 into the pot for no reason could bite you if someone gets a cheap hand off C.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 16:07:36 2016 No.14935855 What's tsuno's tenhou ID? I just played a game against someone named tsuno and it would be neat if that was him, but I doubt it.

Anonymous Thu Mar 17 16:43:58 2016 No.14935968

>>14935024
Experience+intuition. Every single time when I trying to play probability style with perfect title efficiency I lose badly.
I just know that this game hate me, so I'm very cautious in offence (especially with riichi - fuck textbook insta-riichi). Often open my hands and trying dama+trap combo.
In defence I use uchi-mawashi, even with not so good value hand and sanshanten (double-edged sword, but definitely saved my ass more times than fucked).

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 17:02:03 2016 No.14936032 >>14935968 >Every single time when I trying to play probability style with perfect title efficiency I lose badly. Either you don't actually understand probability or you haven't played many games like this. What's your rank and rate?

Anonymous Thu Mar 17 17:29:35 2016 No.14936104

>>14936032
>you don't actually understand probability
Maybe, it's not that I play completly illogical and occult, but a lot of my plays can be considered as bad, when actually works better for me than textboks examples.
For example - I tend to keep single middle titles than 89 pairs, no delcaring riichi when everyone else would call it insta and pushing when everyone else would give up.
At this moment I'm 4dan with R1842, had very bad weekend lately.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 17:33:14 2016 No.14936117 >>14936104 >I tend to keep single middle titles than 89 pairs That is not tile efficiency.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 19:58:35 2016 No.14936915 File: 118 KB, 500x500, 1458257346819.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm trying to play a DS Mahjong game and found these moonrunes in it: 総半荘数 What do they mean?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 19:59:59 2016 No.14936923 >>14936915 Total hanchan count.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 20:00:52 2016 No.14936931 >>14936923 Thanks, anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 20:01:42 2016 No.14936939 >>14936931 Don't get used to it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 21:18:37 2016 No.14937357 2:0

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 21:25:46 2016 No.14937382 File: 74 KB, 185x247, 1433806189090.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14937357 >2:4

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 21:34:01 2016 No.14937433 Forever 3:

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 21:48:48 2016 No.14937522 >>14927701 1.8

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 22:03:40 2016 No.14937610 >>14937522 2.8

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 22:18:23 2016 No.14937679 >>14937610 3.0

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 23:18:25 2016 No.14937903 File: 384 KB, 900x675, 1456994154708.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14937679 3:0 again, motherfuckers. Choo choo

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 17 23:58:55 2016 No.14938026 With 44566, do I discard 4 and 6?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 00:00:17 2016 No.14938032 >>14938026 Depends what else you have obviously

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 00:03:39 2016 No.14938047 >>14938032 Well, assuming I already have two sets, one open wait and no pair Both 4 and 6 look like shitty candidates for a pair

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 00:06:01 2016 No.14938058 >>14938047 Dump either the 4 or the 6 but not both and sit on either a 47 or 58 pin fu iishanten

Anonymous Fri Mar 18 00:07:07 2016 No.14938064

>>14938047
4 and 6 are identical discards if you're trying to get an edge wait and make one of them your pair, so you have to take the situation into account. Does one of them constitute a safe tile for someone else? Which suji has more tiles (meaning will be more likely to be complete)?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 00:07:25 2016 No.14938065 >>14938058 >47 or 58 47 or 36

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 00:10:01 2016 No.14938081 >>14938026 >>14938047 Tanki wait and ii-pei-kou

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 02:07:17 2016 No.14938460 File: 621 KB, 956x635, help.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What does this mean?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 02:18:18 2016 No.14938497 >>14938460 段位上限のため、経験値変動しません Something like exp doesn't change your dan rank limit? I'm not entirely sure.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 02:25:44 2016 No.14938506 File: 108 KB, 737x628, That was nice.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Was wondering where the others were. I figured there were just 2 people in betaori.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 02:31:06 2016 No.14938517 File: 458 KB, 731x621, Notagain.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14938506 Jealous.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 02:37:28 2016 No.14938533 File: 215 KB, 1280x720, 1357496702420.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14938517

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 02:58:25 2016 No.14938552 File: 73 KB, 1055x640, Furiten.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14938506 >South

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 03:08:36 2016 No.14938586 >>14938460 You can't gain EXP in free mode anymore.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 03:33:01 2016 No.14938690 >>14938506 >>14938517 I haven't scored shousuushii in over a year now. I miss it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 03:38:35 2016 No.14938710 >>14938506 Did that riichi come after 2nd call?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 03:41:54 2016 No.14938721 >>14938552 uwotm8

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 03:49:03 2016 No.14938747 >>14938721 He discarded the 4p.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 04:02:46 2016 No.14938778 File: 547 KB, 736x539, Just 10 more.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Almost there

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 04:23:15 2016 No.14938828 >>14938747 And?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 04:23:23 2016 No.14938829 File: 257 KB, 1040x808, hurrr durrr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] so this just happened. star must have aligned for me or karma bullshit. http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016031817gm-0089-0000-b80537a7&tw=0

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 04:24:29 2016 No.14938834 File: 168 KB, 1040x806, wew lad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14938829

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 04:35:06 2016 No.14938853 File: 47 KB, 722x480, 1340097476041.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14938829 >>14938834 Ye gods of mahjong hath blesseth thee.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 04:36:19 2016 No.14938854 File: 52 KB, 940x517, ss-2015-07-18-at-12.56.58.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14938829 >no riichi

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 04:39:39 2016 No.14938862 File: 460 KB, 735x625, Couldbeenahaneman.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14938829 You could have ended it sooner if you believed in your own flow.

Anonymous Fri Mar 18 04:47:34 2016 No.14938878

>>14938862
someone already tossed 6, no one tossed 9 yet and I was too cowardly to force the matter. would even wait patiently to change my hand if necessary.
>>14938854
>sex button meme
I'll resort to it if I'm 2nd or lower, lost too many times against defensive players and get punished instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 05:11:12 2016 No.14938951 >>14938862 And finish +106.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 05:13:57 2016 No.14938959 >>14938951 The dream was to tsumo everyone to negative. That quick ron spoiled it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 06:23:02 2016 No.14939130 What is good strategy in one-hand match? Like that gold game in Tengokuhai, for example.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 08:16:50 2016 No.14939407 Are Tenhou down or just me? Keep showing error.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 09:52:10 2016 No.14939632 File: 32 KB, 600x292, hadouken__by_themartyred-d50ii1h.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 10:14:48 2016 No.14939697 3:0

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 10:24:40 2016 No.14939718 File: 111 KB, 1058x705, 1443756426087.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14938506 >>14938517 http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2015030900gm-0009-7447-6d3c4b97&tw=0

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 10:34:07 2016 No.14939741 >>14939718 >-122.0 Oh my.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 10:37:01 2016 No.14939753 >>14939697 2.0

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 10:45:41 2016 No.14939787 >>14939753 3.0

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 16:28:33 2016 No.14940828 >>14938828 South player was in furiten. The hand would have ended a turn earlier.

Anonymous Fri Mar 18 16:33:07 2016 No.14940844

>>14939130
>What is good strategy in one-hand match?
It goes without saying. First one to win the hand, wins. So likewise, you have to be extremely tile efficient. But also, you have to consider seat win tie-breakers and the effect of tsumos.

Of course, it can also come down to your seat position. The dealer has no choice but to go almost all out. If anyone else tsumos, then the dealer loses. If the dealer tsumos, South has an advantage of a tie over West and North.

With a game like this, what happens if ryuukyoku?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 17:23:03 2016 No.14940989 File: 534 KB, 700x676, 131229693752165.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2:4

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 18:52:09 2016 No.14941360 >>14940989 3.0

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 21:07:55 2016 No.14941850 2:0

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 21:33:10 2016 No.14941927 >>14940844 The match is 1v1, with each player brings a bot, often times preset-ed to tsumogiri, and they can't win a hand. Considering there's money betting, is it better to just get cheap hand and play long enough to pile it up, or aim big?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 21:57:23 2016 No.14942009 Shou San Gen is a magical thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 22:11:49 2016 No.14942064 If two players have the same score at the end of a game, how is their rank determined?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 22:13:55 2016 No.14942071 >>14942064 By seat winds. Whoever is closer to the dealer seat is on top.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 22:20:35 2016 No.14942103 >>14942071 That's even more retarded than atamahane.

Anonymous Fri Mar 18 22:26:14 2016 No.14942119

>>14942103
Not really. Ties almost never happen, and the system it follows needs to take into account things like someone busting out, so extra rounds is a no-go. Plus, last dealer is an inherently advantageous seating position, so it helps balance that out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 22:37:41 2016 No.14942144 >>14938959 >>14942103 Tell that to the poor nigger sitting north. http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016021005gm-0029-0000-769de617&tw=0&ts=3

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 18 22:46:13 2016 No.14942169 >>14942144 It's fair he deserved it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 01:39:57 2016 No.14942686 File: 188 KB, 1280x960, HE HATES IT.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >34+21+25+20 >Still stuck in 4 dan 1700s hell, but finally in striking range Those games where I end in 2nd that only give 1R are getting annoying.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 01:42:29 2016 No.14942694 File: 1.21 MB, 2560x1440, IMG_20160318_223903743.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ffffriday nite >no one to play with Welp...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 02:47:27 2016 No.14942933 File: 35 KB, 350x364, 1340318763313.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14942686 Yea, 4-dan sucks; and it's even worse in joukyuu due to limited gains from the relatively low average R.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 05:36:41 2016 No.14943479 >>14942694 Are those your tiles? I think I have the same set.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 06:07:50 2016 No.14943572 File: 40 KB, 609x77, hand.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What will you discard here? 4th draw, discarded useless winds. Not a fancy round or anything, but this sort of draw troubles me a lot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 06:13:44 2016 No.14943588 >>14943572 Depends on the dora and other discards. If a lot of tiles connecting to 4p are out, then probably that. Otherwise, either 1s or 7s, probably 7s because it'll be more dangerous later and it's more efficient.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 06:14:52 2016 No.14943594 >>14943572 4p. The fact that you're asking indicates that you'd rather keep 4p to build a ryanmen, but breaking up one of your other taatsu would be way too slow and not worth it. If, on your next turn, you drew 6m, then the next discard would be 7s.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 06:15:18 2016 No.14943596 >>14943572 Proababy the 2sou

Anonymous Sat Mar 19 06:48:04 2016 No.14943693

>>14943572
7s.

You have 123m, 57m, 677s and are looking to complete one more among 4p, 88p, and 122s.

67s is already an efficient shape. You can give up only two tiles (7s) in exchange for allowing any lower or middle pinzu to improve your hand with the 4p. Discarding 4p here is a bit too early because then you must rely on 122s or 88p to improve, which are both suboptimal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 07:39:12 2016 No.14943860 >>14943594 I actually discarded 4p (after a few seconds pause), but felt like committing a sin by doing so. That's why I asked. >>14943693 >Discarding 4p here is a bit too early That's probably it. Yea, 7s would be better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 07:49:15 2016 No.14943885 >>14943594 >>14943693 >4p >Discarding 4p here is a bit too early Which one is it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 07:53:14 2016 No.14943902 >>14943885 Show discards

Anonymous Sat Mar 19 08:03:33 2016 No.14943944

>>14943885
Discarding 4p is right.

Firstly, you sacrifice efficiency just for the possibility that you'll draw tiles near 4p.
Secondly, even if you do, you're more likely to draw either a kanchan or shanpon than ryanmen, neither of which improve your shape.
Thirdly, even if you did draw ryanmen, the most efficient way forward from there is to break up the 57m kanchan, which loses you the dora (unless you draw the red 5p)
Finally, even if you did draw the red 5p, you're still sanshanten. Congratulations, you just wasted turns for no hand improvement. In the time it took, you might as well have reached iishanten already. It's not like your hand shape was all that bad to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 08:12:13 2016 No.14943969 >>14943944 I see. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 08:17:19 2016 No.14943993 File: 400 KB, 729x621, e3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14943902 Here you go.

Anonymous Sat Mar 19 08:55:48 2016 No.14944201

>>14943885
>>14943693 here.

I believe Daina Chiba's rule of thumb in his book would also support cutting the 7s in this hand (if you have three pairs, you should cut one of them).

Think in terms of your likely finished hand composition and backfires. There is almost no chance you will dismantle the double dora or finished 123m shape, and you will almost certainly to complete the ryanmen at 67s rather than a 777s shape.

In contrast, you are 4x as likely to draw 3/5p than 7s, and even a 6p would give you a decent 468p. In practical terms, this means that you increase the possibility of backfiring on a good pinzu draw by 12 tiles in exchange for a temporary improvement of 2 tiles, which you're going to cut immediately if any other taatsu improves anyway.

The reason that keeping three pairs is generally bad for tile efficiency is that unlike with cutting two pairs to one, cutting the third 7s pair still allows a 8p or 2s to advance the hand. This means you are keeping only 2 more tiles of immediate efficiency but opening yourself up to 4-6x possibility of backfiring on a shape upgrade.

Anonymous Sat Mar 19 09:19:38 2016 No.14944284

>>14944201
To sum up, consider every alternate universe of possible draws.

The vast majority of these universes will be the same for a 4p discard vs a 7s discard. You will either get a useless tile, or the draw will improve another unrelated part of your hand, such as a 6m draw. In the latter case, you will discard the remaining 4p or 7s, just in a different order but with the exact same resulting hand.

The universes only diverge when you draw a 23456p or 7s. An 8s would technically create a nice 6778s shape, but this is irrelevant because keeping the 7s afterward really would be too slow and you'd cut it anyway. This means that in two of your alternate futures, you benefited from keeping 7s (by drawing another 7s), but in 19 other alternate futures, you benefited from keeping 4p (ranging from major benefit upon 3/5p draw to extremely minor upon drawing 2/4p).

Anonymous Sat Mar 19 09:37:53 2016 No.14944338

>>14944284
Ugh, I should really remember to think of everything before posting, but a last note.

It would actually be correct to keep 7s over 4p if you could call for tanyao, for instance if you had 23457m instead of the 1m. However, this hand will likely not get tanyao because a 4m would get incorporated into a 45m ryanmen instead of letting the 1m slide out. You are hoping for pinfu here if anything, so a 777s is also slightly less valuable yaku-wise when kuitan/tanyao is not in the cards.

Hope this helps.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 10:17:15 2016 No.14944480 >>14943479 They are. I found the set in a Kyoto swap meet for around 20,000¥ They reeked of cigarette smoke for weeks

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 10:28:11 2016 No.14944514 >>14944480 *2,000¥

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 10:36:12 2016 No.14944534 Good god I'm retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 13:11:29 2016 No.14944977 >>14927701 3.0

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 13:18:00 2016 No.14945005 >>14944977 >one faggot is afk

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 13:24:56 2016 No.14945037 File: 29 KB, 480x507, 1406759410542.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >dora 8 showing >deal into it

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 13:27:45 2016 No.14945056 File: 264 KB, 739x621, mysecond.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14927701

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 13:39:01 2016 No.14945105 >>14944977 back to 3.0

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 15:28:34 2016 No.14945414 >>14934932 Mahjong is about cheating your way in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 17:16:00 2016 No.14945853 File: 77 KB, 754x613, I like where this is going.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 17:34:42 2016 No.14945932 >>14945853 i'll take a guess. 6 han ron opened hand?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 17:38:12 2016 No.14945941 File: 102 KB, 730x628, Only sanbaiman.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14945853 Had to abandon the Daisangen/Tsuuiisou after the nan got called and 2 hatsu got discarded so I only ended up with a sanbaiman. >Only

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 19:21:41 2016 No.14946392 2:0

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 19:25:39 2016 No.14946409 3:0. Now's your chance!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 19:50:01 2016 No.14946521 3:4, get in here!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 19:51:43 2016 No.14946527 File: 67 KB, 1280x720, Bully.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14946521 >0:8

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 19:53:17 2016 No.14946535 Mr. Zen. Welcome back, you slut.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 19:56:24 2016 No.14946547 File: 92 KB, 371x661, 1449397928524.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2:8

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 20:11:42 2016 No.14946612 >>14946535 Wow... I mean really. Welcome back.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 20:31:54 2016 No.14946674 3:4

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 20:32:44 2016 No.14946678 >>14946527 3:4 again, now is your chance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 20:44:29 2016 No.14946711 File: 58 KB, 500x442, 1454400103170.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Friendly reminder to learn yaku

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 20:44:36 2016 No.14946713 How does one survive with 0 points?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 20:45:50 2016 No.14946718 >>14946713 Barely

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 20:53:49 2016 No.14946745 >>14946713 Be quick as lightning. Any tsumo will knock you out, so you need to get a 1000 points win as soon as possible. If you don't have any dealer turns left, then you might as well give up and go for a yakuman.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 21:03:21 2016 No.14946787 >>14946745 Yea, gotta get that riichi money.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 21:10:07 2016 No.14946825 >>14946713 Emergency YA KU MAN.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 21:39:02 2016 No.14946957 File: 993 KB, 5120x3840, Large Faces.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Which tile is best tile?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 21:40:47 2016 No.14946965 >>14946957 Either the 2 pin, the 1 sou, or the haku.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 21:43:37 2016 No.14946976 >>14946957 1p Any other answer is wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 21:45:04 2016 No.14946986 >>14946957 I'm rather fond of the 5 sou.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 21:45:45 2016 No.14946989 >>14946957 chun is just too sexy to ignore

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 22:04:32 2016 No.14947070 >>14946957 >There are people that don't choose the bird

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 22:12:58 2016 No.14947106 >>14946989 Shit taste, hatsu is best girl.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 22:17:01 2016 No.14947121 >>14946957 NANTOKANARE

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 22:17:42 2016 No.14947123 >>14946957 Green dragon. I fucking hate all terminals with burning passion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 22:42:43 2016 No.14947210 File: 128 KB, 1280x720, [HorribleSubs] Robot Girls Z - 03 [720p].mkv_snapshot_04.56_[2014.03.07_01.44.38].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >4 dan >1795 Time for the inevitable string of last places to start

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 22:54:20 2016 No.14947240 >>14947123 ACTUALLY, it's called hatsu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 22:59:57 2016 No.14947261 >>14947106 Chun is a beautiful and slender lady. Hatsu is fat and ugly. Eat shit nerd. Better yet, eat your hatsu which is the same as shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 23:01:14 2016 No.14947265 File: 79 KB, 379x322, 1431063709777.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14946957 Pei.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 23:35:30 2016 No.14947405 3:4

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 19 23:56:19 2016 No.14947507 >>14947210 All you need is one or two 1st places. Get in there and fight!

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 00:04:53 2016 No.14947548 >>14947210 >1801 You did it, didn't you? Good job.

Anonymous Sun Mar 20 00:12:54 2016 No.14947577

>>14947548
Yeah, there were a ton of draws in that game. Eventually I hit a dealer San An Kou and pulled away. Fully expecting to get thrashed once I enter Joukyuu.

I'm less than 100 points from 5 dan. Is it worth hanging around for a couple more games or just jump right into Tokujou?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 00:13:56 2016 No.14947585 >>14947577 Tokujou

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 01:21:06 2016 No.14947794 >>14947577 >jump right into Tokujou The sooner you get your feet wet in there. The better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 02:06:21 2016 No.14947896 >4th >Immediately B& Well that wasn't particularly fun. Everyone was just calling honors. Not a single hand over 8k for anyone over all 16 hands. Only time I actually made something the guy behind me calls riichi 3 turns later and pulls a tsumo.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 03:25:53 2016 No.14948128 >>14946965 >2 pin This. Probably the most underrated tile out there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 03:28:52 2016 No.14948151 >>14946957 Best: ton, 6s Worst: 7s

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 03:34:01 2016 No.14948172 >>14948151 With the exception of the bird, all of the sou are really fucking shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 03:35:19 2016 No.14948178 >>14948172 Ryuuiisou is the best.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 03:36:16 2016 No.14948182 >>14948178 >stupidest yakuman noty

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 03:37:51 2016 No.14948185 >>14948182 >stupidest But that's not kokushi

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 03:40:42 2016 No.14948195 >>14948185 Kokushi, ryuu and tenhou are the worst yakuman. Every other yakuman is an extension of regular yaku sort of like a progression, or at least in my mind anyway. Like how daisangen is shousangen+ or Suuankou is sanankou+

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 03:43:12 2016 No.14948203 >>14948195 I guess tenhou is a progression of double riichi then. Maybe it's the least worst

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 05:12:04 2016 No.14948457 File: 151 KB, 640x1080, Reading.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14948195 >Ryuuiisou not a progression of regular yaku

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 05:20:50 2016 No.14948485 >>14948457 I can't really explain what I mean, but you aim for shit like sanshoku or pinfu or whatever when building a hand, you don't really aim for hatsu, it just sort of turns up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 06:02:38 2016 No.14948625 >>14948485 >implying ryuuiisou requires hatsu

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 07:18:09 2016 No.14948845 >>14947070 what does it feel like to be a complete pleb?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 08:05:54 2016 No.14949008 >>14948625 I've never seen one without hatsu, I think without it you're too likely to draw nongreen Sou and most people would be reluctant to throw away chinitsu shanten, an already big hand, for a slim chance at ryuu.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 08:39:59 2016 No.14949112 I just had two victories in a row and now I'm afraid of starting a new game because I'm bound to get my ass kicked this time around. How do I stop being such a huge pussy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 08:59:28 2016 No.14949161 >>14949112 Take a break first. The more games you play in a row the more likely you are to make mistakes. This tends to happen to me, then I go on tilt to make up for the game I lost.

Anonymous Sun Mar 20 09:00:05 2016 No.14949164

>>14949112
Accept that you're going to lose and focus on what you can learn from your losses instead. More importantly you shouldn't let the results of your previous matches influence you in your future matches, because how you did one game has nothing to do with how you'll do in the other. It will just make you tepid in games following victories or overly aggressive in games following bad losses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 09:18:48 2016 No.14949225 Has the html5 client been translated yet?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 09:45:18 2016 No.14949332 File: 2.79 MB, 328x321, laughing traps.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >third dan walks into ippan http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016032022gm-0009-0000-06b8f0ae&tw=3

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 16:45:40 2016 No.14950782 File: 405 KB, 727x600, love you too game.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why my every single early riichi in tokujou must end with that kind of shit?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 16:53:13 2016 No.14950815 >>14950782 At least, you don't play into South's hand.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 17:40:10 2016 No.14951002 >>14950782 >>14934832

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 20:09:17 2016 No.14951655 File: 63 KB, 507x525, Ur a Faget 4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >That one player that lets the timer max out every time before he makes a move

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 20:16:27 2016 No.14951679 >>14951655 Would you prefer a ron-waiter?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 20:19:11 2016 No.14951699 File: 483 KB, 529x470, 1442080059326.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14951679 He did that too

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 20:24:26 2016 No.14951728 File: 403 KB, 733x628, possible gyakuten attempt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How many points did I end up winning here?

Anonymous Sun Mar 20 20:27:10 2016 No.14951743
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>>14951655
The worst is when you put down the dora after calling riichi, and some dumbfuck waits the entire 10 seconds from then on to get a reaction from you. There's a special place in hell reserved for these people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 20:27:51 2016 No.14951745 >>14951728 I would expect A to absolutely destroy you. If you actually made a hand I'd guess Honitsu Chun, so 5800. >inb4 chuu ren

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 20:28:52 2016 No.14951751 >>14951728 1500.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 20:32:19 2016 No.14951763 >>14951728 0.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 20:35:19 2016 No.14951776 File: 386 KB, 735x629, the_result_.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14951728 >>14951745 >>14951751 >chuu ren Oh I wish The next hand I did a riichi with a hell wait that caused everyone to bail, so undeserved gyakuten was completed.

Anonymous Sun Mar 20 20:35:19 2016 No.14951777
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>>14951655
Every few rounds some fuck takes forever to deal and ends up dumping a non-seat/round wind and I hate him.

>>14951728
24k.

Riichi, Ippatsu, tsumo, Hon istu, chun, 1 ura.

24k.

You got got this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 20:43:40 2016 No.14951823 >>14951776 What the hell, shimocha. That's ippan-tier right there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 22:05:37 2016 No.14952121 >Joukyuu 42+28+30+21 >Tokujou 0+0+0+4 I was expecting the difference to be harsh, but not anywhere near this bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 22:15:13 2016 No.14952168 >>14952121 I think there's always going to be an adjustment period when you promote to a new lobby. I also got into Tokujou this month and I'm sitting at 27+18+22+26 right now lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 22:40:26 2016 No.14952298 >>14952168 I think my biggest problem is every time I lose I fall below 1800 so I get sent back to Joukyuu. No way to establish a flow when you can't play more than 1 game at a time.

Anonymous Sun Mar 20 23:03:42 2016 No.14952420

>>14952121
This is the gambler's fallacy, but I've had losing streaks every single time I've gone up a rank. I think of it as a run of good luck usually gave me the last push toward promotion, so then it's about time the bad luck starts.

Anyway, if your joukyuu record reflects a real consistent edge, tokujou should not be that much harder for you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 20 23:07:44 2016 No.14952430 >>14952121 Average skill level spikes when you move up in lobbies. The players in tokujou, on average, have gotten to play against better players longer than you. Just focus on learning.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 00:10:59 2016 No.14952649 >massive gyakuten in South 4 Stay mad nonames

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 00:17:09 2016 No.14952675 File: 41 KB, 447x400, 1327284505589.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14952649 So you were losing against Nonames? How embarrassing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 00:20:10 2016 No.14952687 >>14927701 3.0

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 00:24:00 2016 No.14952701 File: 453 KB, 738x626, moronic wait.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This shouldn't have worked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 00:31:37 2016 No.14952727 >>14952701 Hell waits always work. They're right up there with furiten riichi for being the most effective tactic to win a hand.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 00:58:13 2016 No.14952821 >>14951823 Yea, he fucked up royally

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 01:04:50 2016 No.14952849 2:4

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 01:05:25 2016 No.14952852 >>14952701 Hell wait suji. Anyone at that level of play would assume 9-man as safe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 02:04:36 2016 No.14953098 >>14927701 0.12

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 02:27:14 2016 No.14953178 >>14952701 Hisa, please have more confidence

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 10:39:12 2016 No.14954402 >>14952727 Agree. Hell waits best waits. t. dead wall

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 15:24:34 2016 No.14955460 >>14952727 how is furiten riichi a tactic?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 15:28:23 2016 No.14955476 >>14955460 Intimidation. You could reasonably cause people to go betatori and such.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 16:17:12 2016 No.14955650 >>14955460 >>14955476 And at higher levels of play, calling riichi has the expectation of tsumo anyways, due to decreased ron rates.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 16:18:40 2016 No.14955655 >>14955650 At higher levels of play you wouldn't be getting into furiten in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 16:20:18 2016 No.14955660 File: 279 KB, 800x691, 49299015_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I kinda wish I was smart enough to play this game

Anonymous Mon Mar 21 16:53:50 2016 No.14955783

>>14955655
You'd be surprised. When I participated in tournament some time ago, I was more than 12k points behind second place in orasu.
I got very quick hand and have winning set in fifth turn, but it was just pinfu+tsumo. The point is, that exchange 9p for 6p would give me sanshoku+tanyao. Of course I called riichi, because there were none other possibilities for gyakuten.
Player from second place (experienced tokujou player) folded and must watch as I drawn tsumo few turns later - his butthurt when I took him down thanks for baiman (got two ura dora) was one of the best things I even experienced in mahjong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 17:08:48 2016 No.14955841 >>14955660 I'm fucking stupid and I can still enjoy it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 17:43:32 2016 No.14956025 >doing really well >internet shits out for a single turn >auto discard into dealer riichi >reconnect immediately afterwards >no more problems for the rest of the game >costs me first Fuck that noise

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 17:48:26 2016 No.14956052 >>14956025 Yea, it's fucking great to see bots doing perfect betaori, but when you get disconnect for few seconds - insta deal. At least it only cost you first place - I know, this sucks, but dealer riichi could be way deadlier.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 17:56:29 2016 No.14956088 >>14956052 It was dealer mangan, which sucked. It's not like my internet is great but I can't get anything better here and I rarely have problems with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 18:20:49 2016 No.14956226 >>14956025 If you finished 4th, then you should be massively butthurt. If you didn't, then be relieved.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 18:32:15 2016 No.14956275 >>14955841 Me too But I suck and I'm stuck at 1dan

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 18:39:01 2016 No.14956300 >>14956275 What's your R? How long have you been there?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 18:42:47 2016 No.14956311 >>14956300 1412. 3 weeks since I started in jokyuu. Laugh all you want

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 18:52:16 2016 No.14956339 >>14956052 I changed ISP over this bullshit

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 19:07:47 2016 No.14956385 >>14956311 Chances are you need to defend more. Getting to an R this low without attacking too much is difficult.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 19:11:11 2016 No.14956399 >be 1D >gain like 30R in a single match by blowing up three 3D Feelsgoodman

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 19:12:19 2016 No.14956408 >>14956399 http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016032207gm-0089-0000-3155d120&tw=0

Anonymous Mon Mar 21 19:21:11 2016 No.14956442

>Get nothing but good to great starting hands the whole match, but no one ever deals in
>Don't win a single hand
>3s round
>haku doru pair and south wind pair on start hand
>Again no one deals in
>Turns into suu ankou
It feels so good.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016032202gm-0009-0000-xf0dd01e6181f&tw=0

>>14956399
Well, you don't face a 1946 R player in Joukyuu every day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 19:23:57 2016 No.14956451 >>14956442 Much less beat one! Nice yakuman man, with ridiculous gyakuten bonus but >no riichi

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 19:34:10 2016 No.14956493 >>14956451 The hand was baiman even if winning by ron. I'm not gonna risk losing that with riichi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 19:38:52 2016 No.14956509 >>14955655 >not watching houou enough

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 19:46:35 2016 No.14956548 >>14956408 >S2 >kamicha >have two safe titles against oya riichi >keep shanten by dropping them >choose another one and deal into oya baiman nani?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 19:53:43 2016 No.14956575 >>14956548 Yea, I have no idea what that nigger was thinking.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 20:03:31 2016 No.14956642 >>14956385 But then if I defend I never win a hand If I attack I deal in I lose either way >>14956509 You can watch houou games?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 20:06:38 2016 No.14956660 >>14956642 4th tab on the top

Anonymous Mon Mar 21 20:17:00 2016 No.14956711

>>14956642
>But then if I defend I never win a hand
That's bad logic, it should be obvious when you need to bail out and you'll begin to learn when it's safe to push. You only win a quarter of the time anyway.

>>14956548
I'd like to say he was going for it, but he's still a couple from tenpai, with a cheap hand and 21000 off first

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 20:17:33 2016 No.14956715 >>14956509 Houou games have their own weird meta so they're not that useful for improving in lower lobbies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 20:20:48 2016 No.14956734 >>14956715 Houou seems all about trying to hide what you're doing, how close you are and how big your hand is. Most people can't tell that kind of thing normally outside really obvious calling shenanigans.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 21:15:43 2016 No.14956929 >>14956642 >You can watch houou games? Enjoy. You can learn a lot from them. http://tenhou.net/0/wg/

Anonymous Mon Mar 21 23:50:09 2016 No.14957557
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I don't know about securing third place like that. Then again, I always believe in the gyakuten.

The flow was with me in this one (for two hands).

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016032212gm-0029-0000-cf78b565&tw=3

Anonymous Mon Mar 21 23:54:52 2016 No.14957583

>>14957557
It's a fine decision. Getting any sort of gyakuten when one player is at so few points is much, much more difficult than normal because your ability to tsumo is strangled. With that gone, getting direct hits on players in the lead is very tough because they will usually play defensively.

And while trying to do that, if fourth place gets one good hand, now you're the one in fourth. If you're trying to climb then it's better to secure 3rd than risk falling into 4th in situations like this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 21 23:55:11 2016 No.14957584 >>14957557 Pointless ron on Shimocha's part, unless he was scared of the miracle rush

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 00:41:17 2016 No.14957788 >>14957557 Toimen was kinda done It also looks like he was going for chanta or yakuhai with 1 dora, so he'd still be in deep shit next round

Anonymous Tue Mar 22 01:09:58 2016 No.14957887
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>>14957583
That makes sense. I've certainly had games where I drop to last place after dead last manages a big hand.

It's not like you lose that much R for being third in tokujou, either.

>>14957788
His hand was going nowhere, it seems.
This all started because he wanted to push with a terrible hand in E1 after I ponned the dora. It really feels like betaori is king.

Anonymous Tue Mar 22 01:12:20 2016 No.14957897
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>>14957887
The hand in question
>doing a concealed kan when your hand is this underdeveloped
>pushing with that hand

Funnily enough, he deals in with 2p in both the first round and last round of that hanchan.

Anonymous Tue Mar 22 02:07:39 2016 No.14958139
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Should I be making more calls if I keep getting 4th because tsumos and notens keep whittling my points away. I'm really reluctant to open my hand for tanyao or yakuhai but I see people doing it all the time even if that's the only yaku they have.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 02:31:57 2016 No.14958266 >>14958139 What's your call rate and deal-in rate?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 03:32:48 2016 No.14958504 >>14958139 Riichi is a powerful tool but that shouldn't dissuade you from opening your hand since speed is usually considered the most important factor. If you're new make sure you're comfortable with all the easy open yaku, like san shoku and itsuu.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 07:09:56 2016 No.14959062 File: 447 KB, 728x598, it's been a long journey.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh my, it was very lazy dora.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 07:12:42 2016 No.14959072 >>14959062 >A-san with no riichi on a 3-way wait

Anonymous Tue Mar 22 07:19:24 2016 No.14959093

>>14959072
He was probably depressed after failed suu ankou attempt in E1. Also he get that wait one turn earlier, so maybe he was afraid to waste 1k points (if you look at it on the other side, there were only six unvisable winning titles for him and four of them are dora).

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 10:32:05 2016 No.14959566 >>14956052 >bots doing perfect betaori What? AI always discards what it drew

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 10:45:36 2016 No.14959607 >>14959566 It was a joke, but I often saw bots which for whole hanchan drew only safe titles against riichi. On the other side one player disappear for a few seconds - insta ron.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 16:05:28 2016 No.14960653 File: 273 KB, 1168x992, 1442664397937.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WWYD?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 16:07:44 2016 No.14960666 >>14960653 8sou

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 16:12:38 2016 No.14960688 >>14960653 5 pin, 4 pin, 6 man

Anonymous Tue Mar 22 16:13:31 2016 No.14960692 [SPOILER]

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>>14960666
Not a good idea, my man. If you're going to fold then you should at least not discard a souzu tile. 5p is probably the safest.

8sou would have had you dealing into a riichi chin'itsu iipeikou.

I made a really dumb decision, but fortune favors the dumb.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 16:15:15 2016 No.14960702 >>14960692 I forgot ippatsu. Any uradora and it could have been a sanbaiman.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 17:12:15 2016 No.14960908 >>14960692 I would have done the same desu. Your lead wasn't big enough to go full defence and the likelihood of a terminal being the winning tile is always lower. Dama tanyao dora would be fine

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 17:16:56 2016 No.14960928 >>14960908 Also, putting on my occult hat here, this player is essentially Dojima's caterpillar. The flow has abandoned him/her and you should exploit that

Anonymous Tue Mar 22 17:17:51 2016 No.14960930

>>14960908
Don't encourage suboptimal play. That was not a hand worth pushing for, especially with only 1 draw left.

>likelihood of a terminal being the winning tile is always lower
Not when your opponent's discards include no tiles in the suit you're discarding. 5p was perfectly safe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 17:29:20 2016 No.14960973 >>14960908 >likelihood of a terminal being the winning tile is always lower Sounds like perfect plan to lose a few places desu - heck, even in this hand he waited on terminal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 17:39:27 2016 No.14961010 File: 820 KB, 1030x794, ragequit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I managed to make two players ragequit simultaneously. The 2 dan player finished last with negative points.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 17:52:19 2016 No.14961084 >>14960930 >>14960973 Take into consideration that two 2sou are known as well as two 1sou. It's not 100% safe but given the flow of the game, I'd risk it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 18:14:45 2016 No.14961159 >>14961084 What flow?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 18:47:38 2016 No.14961325 File: 451 KB, 727x603, rip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yea, it's a good time to take a break.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 19:04:40 2016 No.14961431 >>14961010 Same just happened to me. I ended the game with 75k because two people quit after dealing into hands that were below mangan.

Anonymous Tue Mar 22 19:43:51 2016 No.14961648
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>>14961431
>Two guys disconnect
>I'm way in first place
>Ron the other guy into last place
>He still doesn't disconnect
>Try to go easy on him and give him chances to get to second
>He can't make it

>Last hand I have a dealer mangan
>Decide to riichi to knock one of the two disconnected players out and put him in third place
>Accidentally ron him because auto win was on

I felt really bad for that guy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 19:51:39 2016 No.14961673 >>14961648 You're too much of a wuss, if you get too comfortable that kind of shit will get you knocked out of first. I left auto win off specifically so I wouldn't kill the other guy with a dealer haneman in the last round.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 20:01:06 2016 No.14961710 File: 426 KB, 1280x720, 1421351791558.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14928789 >>14933662 >6 dan R2035 >Joukyuu

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 20:03:31 2016 No.14961725 >>14961710 Probably his promotion game. Better block him from houou.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 20:11:59 2016 No.14961756 >>14961325 At least the player you dealt into was dumb. If he had kept that 2m and discarded the 8m he'd have a sanshoku.

Anonymous Tue Mar 22 20:41:42 2016 No.14961889

>>14961756
>8dan
>R2088
Well, I would feel better if I dealt into sanshoku, because it would mean that at least he tried and no only get lucky dora explosion.
Also I had very good streak in last eight games (5-2-1-0), so being unlucky once in a while is still part of this game but goddamn, it's still so fucking annoying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 21:01:20 2016 No.14961982 >>14961648 You lack a killer mahjong instinct. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqGuwCfqP1g

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 22 23:06:01 2016 No.14962545 >>14961084 >two and two It's not even one chance negro And one chance is already pretty risky

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 00:19:14 2016 No.14962793 File: 912 KB, 1030x794, stupid.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wish I learned to avoid stupid mistakes like this. There was no reason for me to deal such a dangerous tile. Thankfully I still won the match.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 00:43:18 2016 No.14962858 File: 407 B, 94x16, rnmunl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've lost count on how many wins have been stolen from me in the South rounds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 00:50:42 2016 No.14962880 File: 1.25 MB, 1024x766, zqyfli.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Houou sure is fun.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 00:55:30 2016 No.14962893 >>14962880 I was just watching this game Still don't understand why 9 dan discarded 4 and 5 man against riichi without a second thought in the last round and then suddenly started folding after getting tenpai

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 01:10:03 2016 No.14962927 File: 230 KB, 229x185, 1379162388713.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14962893 By tomorrow, look up any of the player names and then pull out the replay link. Then we'll get a good look as to why. http://arcturus.su/tenhou/ranking/

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 01:45:15 2016 No.14963015 >>14962927 It takes a whole day to update? Lame Anyway, the guy is apparently 100 points away from tenth dan, so his moves may not be comprehensible by mere mortals

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 02:47:13 2016 No.14963196 I might be retarded The lower one's average placement is, the better? Like, 1.0 would mean that a player always finishes first, right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 02:51:55 2016 No.14963209 >>14963196 Yes Since Tenhou gives your finishes as A+B+C+D Your average placement is (A+2B+3C+4D)/(A+B+C+D)

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 03:30:05 2016 No.14963313 >>14963196 >>14963209 And so, post your month so far: 9+10+9+3 = 31戦

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 04:49:20 2016 No.14963503 This is the third time I've been one game away from escaping 1Dan, my R is just over 1600 and I keep choking it ;-;

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 05:23:39 2016 No.14963586 File: 113 KB, 405x355, 2D.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14963503 Fucking nailed it, I might be almost not a shitter now

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 13:37:08 2016 No.14964857 File: 175 KB, 724x621, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can only imagine the other guys laughing at the obvious furiten riichi.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 13:44:29 2016 No.14964886 >>14964857 You mean karaten?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 13:45:54 2016 No.14964894 >>14964886 Yeah, that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 14:35:23 2016 No.14965040 File: 468 KB, 1272x720, [sheline][Nozomi] Saki - 17 (BD 720p).mp4_snapshot_19.56_[2016.02.24_23.23.48].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14963313 8+13+10+9 = 40戦４級 45 / 90pt R1537 Kyuu hell is real

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 14:40:44 2016 No.14965052 File: 3 KB, 204x36, 1451665655928.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14963313

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 23 16:03:13 2016 No.14965362 File: 6 KB, 231x182, march.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14963313 Second month in tokujou and one of the craziest in my tenhou history - tfw in three days fall from R1921 to R1801 and somehow managed to survive.

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