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even despite being the most evil and degenerate out of the cast till date, I cannot bring myself to dislike her, she has that something on her... maybe its her honesty?

what do you think about her?

>> No.46148421
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>>46148411
Sloppy vodka aunt sex.

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very pretty
very evil
the ideal woman

>> No.46149809

>>46148421
One shudders to imagine what inhuman thoughts lie behind that smirk...What dreams of chronic and sustained cruelty.

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>>46148411
i like her and i don't even know why

>> No.46150083

I like her and I don't think she is evil. Yoshika is better of as a zombie than dead.
Zanmu, Eiki, Hisami and the like have done way more evil than she has.

>> No.46150121

>>46150083
>Eiki
>judge of the dead
>Evil
what

>> No.46150134

>>46150121
She's a corrupt judge. It was confirmed in her Touhou 18 card description ("Money is the best lawyer in hell"), and it's also consistent with how King Yama is portrayed in Chinese mythology: the Chinese transplanted their own bureaucracy onto their afterlife, and this included corruption.
I probably don't need to explain how a corrupt judge of the dead is more evil than misunderstood woman who wanted to escape her marriage and her mortality.

>> No.46150250

>>46150083
Yoshika's existence isn't the only thing that makes Seiga evil.

>> No.46150376

>>46150250
Can you list them?
Removing people's excess possessions is not evil.

>> No.46150824

>>46150083
>>46150134
This headcanon again...
Dead people can't use the money they amassed in life, their wealth is proportionally equivalent to the relationships they formed with others. Rich souls that can afford the 'bribing' are good people. You won't have any money to 'bribe' the Yama with if you are a bad person.

>> No.46152512

>>46148411
The pleasure of coming inside.

>> No.46153244

>>46150824
>their wealth is proportionally equivalent to the relationships they formed with others
I have never heard of this. Yes, you can burn ritual money to send to the dead to help them out, but a rich person will have an easier time there, too (but they do indeed need someone to burn the ritual money for them, so one loyal friend).

>> No.46153921

>>46153244
>I have never heard of this
finish PoFV before spouting bullshit on the internet

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>> No.46156108

>>46153921
Virtue/relationships = money, where does it mention this in PoFV? As I recall, there is no mention of money at all, because Eiki appears to be a whole impartial and fair judge at this point. It's only in TH18 that we learn something of the contrary.
Being corrupt doesn't mean that she is wholly rotten. Eiki would much rather not send people to hell, which is why she offers everyone advice on how to improve themselves before it's too late, and, if it is too late, why she may be willing to forgive in exchange for a fee.

>> No.46159265

>>46153244
>>46156108
>Money for the Ferry
>Though readers may already know of this from prominent examples such as the Rokumonsen crest on Sanada's flag, a fare must be paid before crossing the Sanzu River. Komachi has the ability to alter the river's breadth based on the fare paid. A higher sum means a more narrow river, and so a shorter journey before reaching Higan. The fare consists of a dead soul's entire body of wealth, but said wealth is based on the amount of money that other people spent for them during their life. No matter how much money they had in life, a person who was widely despised will be almost penniless-- and if they have too little money, they may not even be able to cross the river. Komachi uses small coins as danmaku in "Phantasmagoria of Flower View", but it's unknown whether these coins are collected from her dead ferry passengers or not.
Komachi's SCoOW profile. Reimu and Marisa also talk about this in CoLA 17. Pretty sure it's either directly or indirectly mentioned in PoFV too.

>> No.46161741

>>46159265
Thanks!
Digging around a bit more, it seems like most of what you mentioned is in the character profile txt for PoFV as well. Not in game, of course, because it's a Touhou game after all.
Interestingly, it also says that you have to give up all your money to Komachi, so Eiki would never see any money, so I dunno how 'Money is the best lawyer in hell' works.
>When a person dies, they must cross a river. Komachi will then lecture them on how to cross the river. The width and depth of the river changes depending on her mood. Also, if someone has done too much evil during their lifetime, they may even not be able to cross the river.
>A shinigami judges one to be good or bad not by the amount of sins and the like, but by money. That is to say, not the money that the deceased may have had while they were alive, but rather the total amount of money possessed by those who yearned and miss that person from the bottom of their hearts. By the way, judging the amount of sins of the dead is not Komachi's job and is handled after crossing the river.
>[...]
>Komachi always demands those she guides to pay all the money they have, and anyone who hesitates to pay the full sum is dropped into the river midway through the journey. The river is then made infinitely wide, and once the swimmer gets tired by swimming, they are consumed by the denizens of the river, the huge fishes that went extinct and the water dragons.
That's pretty brutal. Given how much money my parents must have spent on me, I'm pretty sure I'd hesitate if I hadn't read this. And how does it work for people in developing countries; they'll have much less cash to give Komachi even with this system. The claim that 'rich people are often despised' is just weird, if you consider that middle-income Americans are all pretty rich when viewed globally.

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>>46150083
She is cunning, known for turning people into jiangshi and lures new tao disciples by promising them immortality. Implications are rather wicked.

>> No.46164193

>>46162498
>known for turning people into jiangshi
would that not make her have a problem with gensokyo's establishment?
>and lures new tao disciples by promising them immortality
but thats how it mostly works

>> No.46164915

>>46150121
>>46150134
>>46150824
Eiki isn’t evil because money… she’s evil because she’s apart of a flawed system that literally sends you to an eternal reincarnation of suffering or hell because the denizens of Heaven decided to close off the gates hundreds of years before so you’re literally eternally fucked outside of your soul being completely destroyed.

Like she lectures people about trying their best to avoid hell and achieve salvation while knowing it’s impossible for anybody to actually get there. Touhou is unironically one of the worst settings to exist as a human because you’re screwed no matter what you do.

>> No.46165133

>>46164915
>Touhou is unironically one of the worst settings to exist as a human
Where does reality rank on this scale?

>> No.46166240

>>46165133
Slightly better because the existence of the Outside World means Touhou is just reality + monster dimension.

>> No.46166361

>>46166240
The outside world in Touhou is not the real outside world. Sumireko isn't real, and that sucks.

>> No.46166371

>>46166361
Yes she is I raped her last week.

>> No.46167596

>>46166361
I mean obviously the outside world ain’t actually real life but what else do you mean by “not real”

>>46166240
I don’t actually think that matters because Hecatia proves that Hell still exists even on Earth and human spirits can still transfer to Gensokyo like in TH9. If Heavens also closed off in the Outside World… you’re really screwed

>> No.46167610

>>46164193
Don’t you get an impression that she tricks people into becoming jiangshi servants and sugarcoats it as immortality? It is not stated explicitly in canon but this interpretation fits Seiga’s character well.

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Happy 2/22!

>> No.46168828

>>46165133
That depends on whose ideas of metaphysics are correct. It can either be unfathomably better in the long-term, just about as bad, or debatably even worse if it's all going to fizzle out into nothingness.

>> No.46168905

>>46164915
There's also the netherworld, but I get what you mean... not sure if Touhou is that good for non-humans either if we consider it globally.
>you’re literally eternally fucked outside of your soul being completely destroyed.
Buddhism the beginnings
>>46165133
Anon we aren't gonna spoil you what happens irl after death It's not that it's been stuck in the alpha stage for 3000 years or anything

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I'm going to do a 2/22 (Nyan nyay / Seiga day) image dump. Don't mind me, enjoy the new content.

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>> No.46169088

Those were certainly images of seiga

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>>46169088
The best kind of images, and the day is just getting started!

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>> No.46169247

>>46168905
Someone in another thread pointed out that even strict Buddhists in Gensokyo that put themselves on the path of enlightenment get fuckin murdered by Tengu so you can’t even do that.

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>>46169247
>murdered by Tengu
Yep. Totally.
They're all dead.
... Don't go looking for them.

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>>46169264
>You'll never be raped to death by Tengussy
Why live

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>>46169955
To watch your rapekids grow and flourish!

>> No.46169995

>>46169247
I don't remember much about tengu offing buddahists in lore.
Especially weird considering that they split off from buddahist hermits in the mountains

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>>46169995
Pretty sure it’s from the recent manga

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More Nyannyan!

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>> No.46170793

>>46170617
Aya also showed a lot of disdain for Buddhists in the Byakuren chapter.

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Seiga's my favorite

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>>46148411
I really like depictions of immortals as being immoral tricksters
I feel like if I became immortal a lot of my morals would go out the window because I wouldn't need to give a fuck as there's no repercussions for my actions, especially in Seija's case as jailing her isn't an option
So I think that's why I get a kick out of her doing wicked hermit things
Also DOKI DOKI WAKU WAKU

>> No.46171892

>>46170793
Tengu hate priests and I'm glad to see those myths finally cropping up in Touhou.

>> No.46172008

>>46170617
I remember Aya saying chasing out the humans, not abducting them. Is there more than one translation for this manga?

>> No.46172907

>>46171793
I mean if the only thing keeping you from doing horrible things were the repercussions, then you were probably never a good person to begin with.

So yeah you’d fit right in with the hermits.

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poor kid!

>> No.46185675

>>46171892
Filthy demons hate warriors if the light

>> No.46185825

>>46184914
Translate it, weebs

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