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This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.

What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished?

>> No.46704226
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lol

>> No.46704266
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you fags will never understand how kyou made me feel a few years ago

>> No.46704309

I need to replay Clannad.
It was the very first VN I played in Japanese 15 years ago as a beginner and my reading speed was so painfully slow that it took many months to get through it and probably missed a lot of the subtleties. And I never even played Nagisa's afterstory, stopped after the normal routes.
I'm sure it would be a completely different experience now.
I'll also need to play Tomoyo After, she was my favorite girl.

>> No.46704327

>>46704266
>a few years ago
Anon, the anime is more than a decade ago, the game is like two decades old. That asides, you don't feel the same way anymore?

>> No.46704337

>>46704327
nta but I don't feel the same way anymore compared to how I did when I saw clannad anime for the first time

>> No.46704363

>>46704327
i would have to rewatch the anime or reread the vn because i don't remember any shit

>> No.46704366

>>46704337
That's unfortunate. Maybe rewatch old stuff/read side materials sometime, it might help you fall for the characters again.

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46704370

Thank you for changing my life.

>>46704309
Tomoyo after is different but i wanted more time with her and it gave me just that,so i won't complain.

>> No.46704373

>>46704366
I don't really enjoy key stuff anymore.

>> No.46704417

I should go actually read Kanon sometime. The anime ruined my life.

>> No.46704456

>>46704309
I watched the two seasons of the anime and never read the VN so while i want to read clannad the fact i know all the development makes a slog to read through 70 hours of it.
One day...

>> No.46704461

>>46704373
Any particular reason? My taste expanded over the years but I still like stuff I used to enjoy. When I reread Little Busters a few years ago it's just as good if not better than I remembered.

>> No.46704468

>>46704461
Not really, just experienced too much of key, realized how it follows same formula and same pattern, found better nakige to enjoy personally.

>> No.46704489

>>46704370
Tomoyo's route was the worst and Tomoya was a fucking manchild crybaby. She deserved better.

>> No.46704552

>>46704468
>same formula and same pattern
I guess this never bothered me too much since I feel there are enough variations to the stories. A lot of stories follow the intro>development>climax format anyway.
>found better nakige
Got any rec? I could use a good nakige once in a while.

>> No.46704577

I still have only read Little Busters and Rewrite from key for some reason. I should go back through their catalogue one day.

>> No.46704581

>>46704417
>The anime ruined my life.
What?

>> No.46704587

>>46704581
clannad broke me.

>> No.46704630

>>46704552
Don't know if you're going to enjoy it as much, but satsukoi, iroseka and sakura moyu.

>> No.46704889

>>46704577
Honestly those and AIR are their best.

>> No.46704939

>>46704630
Thanks, I will check them out. Maybe I will start with Sakura Moyu first.

>> No.46705131

>>46704587
reddit

>> No.46705253
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46705253

Cutest heroine is designed by Yano Mitsuki, さすが

>> No.46705304

>enjoying my trapgay
>the bad end is getting drugged and locked in a reverse rape dungeon where you and the heroine (male) slowly lose your sanity while having a ton of degenerate sex
Damn the other routes had bad ends too, but this was on another level.

>> No.46705698

How was the One remake my niggys?

>> No.46705806

>>46705698
Positive: Added voice acting
Very subjective: Updated art
Negative: THE VERSION SHARED ONLINE ONLY HAS EN/CN OPTIONS, NO JP (possibly even on reddit trackers); Unity bloatspyware; removal of H scenes AND rewriting of "problematic" scenes

>> No.46705829

I know that MTL is a controversial subject and it's memed a lot, but how good/bad it actually is?
For example, if I really liked a VN with no translation (for reasons other than good writing or detailed story) and wanted an EOP friend to experience it, would reading an MTL be better than nothing for him, or is MTL so miserable that it's going to completely ruin the work and he's better not read it at all?
I've never used MTL and I'm not an expert on this subject, but I have seen some comparisons of official translations with MTL, and MTL seemed to be more accurate. It may possibly only be worse than official translations as in having less consistency (eg. wrong name readings, etc), but if a person knows just the basics of Japanese, they may detect the majority of them.

>> No.46705856
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NANI KOREE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.46705859

>>46705829
>or is MTL so miserable that it's going to completely ruin the work and he's better not read it at all?
This was the case 10 years ago with Atlas, nowadays things are much better. Technology good.

>> No.46705868

>>46705856
The Glasslip experience.

>> No.46705879

>>46705856
Did Koyama really draw this? Dude fell off a cliff. Tsuki R really will be the last worthwhile thing Type-Moon does.

>> No.46705884

>>46705806
That sounds horrible, fuck.

>> No.46705923

https://web.archive.org/web/20080930165049/http://nnl1.com/wind/methodology.html
EOPs literally only get 75% of a VN because the translators thought they were improving the story by cutting down a quarter of it.
Just absurd.

>> No.46705936

>>46705923
>WE ASSERT THAT OUR RE-INTERPRETATION OF WIND IS SUPERIOR TO THE ORIGINAL.
Why are westoids so delusional and narcissistic...

>> No.46705942

>>46705923
>>46705936
>One last thing... you may have noticed that the team snuck in a couple of pop culture items. Those text blocks obviously do not match the Japanese text and number in the single digits. We only wanted to have a bit of fun, seeing that it's a free localization and all. Besides, think of them as a tribute to Working Designs. Hee hee~
They removed the original writing and filled that hole with irrelevant reddit references.
This is an example of a fan TL team worse than even official localizers. Just disgusting.

>> No.46705949

Are you fags so bored that you're getting mad over EOP drama from 2008? Go read a VN. In Japanese.

>> No.46705957

>>46705942
how are they worse?
official TLs already rewrite and cut content
insert memes where none were originally
purposefully translate things poorly because they are "untranslatable"
and mutilate works to insert their current year ideology
so basically everything NNL plus the last 2

>> No.46705974

>>46705923
>「ああ。みなもの家の方がここからは近いな。この買い物袋だけでも、急いで持って帰ろう」
>"Yeah. Fortunately, your place isn't far from here. Even though we're burdened with these shopping bags, let's hurry there."
as expected they don't know japanese

>> No.46705975

>>46705829
It depends on the VN, but it can be pretty damn near perfect now. Nothing lost that wouldn't be lost in a human translation or misunderstood by someone who wasnt fluent anyway.

>> No.46705976

>>46705957
Either way MTL is way better than both, and reading in Japanese is infinitely better than anything.

>> No.46705990

Not untranslated AFAIK but I don't play translations... I'm reading Yukizakura now. Pretty fun even though cliche. Weird how I've never read it before since it's a classic apparently.
By the way, does anyone know where I can find Kusarihime ~ Euthanasia? Can't seem to find a torrent anywhere. Then again I didn't look too hard.

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>>46705990

>> No.46706002

The most important thing is to always post off-topic trash! The other threads I ruined in the past, left them behind and on my journey to find a place to finally be in peace I must naturally destroy what little good is still around.

>> No.46706016

>>46705990
Where did you find it? I had a hard time finding it untranslated, but then someone pointed out to that "zi0" website and I found it there...

>> No.46706039

>>46705990
>does anyone know where I can find Kusarihime ~ Euthanasia?
liar-soft pack

>> No.46706140

>>46705829
>and wanted an EOP friend to experience it
What will you do when he miss plot points because of shit translation and calls it shit?

>> No.46706165

>>46705829
>t. The EOP friend

>> No.46706220 [DELETED] 

>>46706165
お前分裂病なのかよ。なんで俺はEOPでなきゃならい?

>> No.46706506

>>46705806
I thought they kept in the cuck rape.

>> No.46706668

I'm still amazed by how robust vndb managed to make its search.
Never seen a dev ever update anything with this much depth to be exactly and flawlessly be exactly what I needed.
now the tagging just have to match suit...

>> No.46706688

>>46706668
>now the tagging just have to match suit...
Be the change you want to see.

>> No.46706692

>>46706668
it's just a relational database

>> No.46706877

Bros what are some good denpa works. Just give me

>> No.46706887

>>46706877
totono

>> No.46706899

>>46706887
Is shimokura vio's last work also good? The one with the bullied MC taking revenge

>> No.46706907

>>46706899
Mojika? It's pretty meh, but has some really nice presentation and artwork.

>> No.46706922

>>46706899
Mojika seems pretty hit or miss for people. It's a strange story. Personally I quite enjoyed it.

>> No.46706950

>Read five lines
>Browse internet for an hour
>Repeat
I will never finish my VNs

>> No.46706953

>>46706922
Is it the kind of thing you'd recommend reading to any sensible VN reader due to how unique it is?

>> No.46706986

>>46706953
It's closer to Clockup than typical Nitroplus so it depends if you can enjoy more messed up/weird stuff.

>> No.46707023

>>46706950
with a few clicks you can disable your net

>> No.46707064

>>46706922
>>46706953
There's nothing unique about it aside from the presentation, it's your typical shitty ryoujoku-ge. Can't believe Nitroplus wasted a game on that trash.

>> No.46707072

>>46706950
That means whatever you a reading you dont find it interesting
Either drop it or power through it
Also ADHD may be starting for you

>> No.46707079

>>46706887
NTRslop

>> No.46707090

>>46707064
>There's nothing unique about it aside from the presentation, it's your typical shitty ryoujoku-ge.
I highly doubt you actually read it.

>> No.46707096

>>46707064
Is there anything you'd recommend in the same vein? A person taking revenge on cruel people. It doesn't have to be as graphic. I'm still curious so I want to check something similar regardless.

>> No.46707115

>>46707096
There are shitposters here that will say everything that isn't yuzu sucks, especially if it's not a moege

>> No.46707138

>>46706950
I am a Linuxbro and I had this problem when I used a VM for VNs, but I recently found an old computer I had and I installed Windows 7 on it, and I'm now using it as an offline VN machine, so there's nothing to alt-tab to (other than dictionary program).
>>46707023
I personally wouldn't like the idea of disabling my internet because I want to seed torrents as much as possible. I currently have ~450 torrents seeding, with ~150 of them being VNs. In a little over a year, I have uploaded almost 50 TB (13+ overall ratio).
I put my computer on sleep mode before going to bed so that the fan noise doesn't bother me, but I have it set to turn on again in around an hour to not waste time not seeding.

>> No.46707146

>>46707115
can confirm, i am not a shitposter and i think yuzu sucks

>> No.46707156

>>46707115
Dont worry, I consider yuzu and azarashi soft garbage for lowest common denominator no taste moebutas too

>> No.46707163

>>46707115
Expressing opinions that happen to be different from the mainstream westoid propaganda counts as shitposting, but meaningless posts complaining about boogeymen are completely relevant and on-topic?

>> No.46707174

>>46706950
Sucks to suck. I spent hours today masturbating to garbage nukige with no distractions

>> No.46707187

>>46707174
Frying your brain on nukislop is not that much better than browsing the int*rnet.

>> No.46707191

>asterisk censored words
go away threadshitter

>> No.46707203

>>46707191
>>46707163

>> No.46707207

>>46707156
toneworksbros... we are safe...

>> No.46707246

I am a Palettechad.

>> No.46707255

>>46707246
>chad
Who/what?

>> No.46707268

>>46704939
>Maybe I will start with Sakura Moyu first
You probably should because this is the best out of these 3. Start with Chiwa route.

>> No.46707274

>>46707187
If the average person replaced their internet usage with fapping to nukige, the world would become a dramatically better place overnight.

>> No.46707293

>>46707268
Who would you recommend sakumoyu to? Like "read this if you..."

>> No.46707294

>>46707163
>This game sucks! (I haven't read it by the way)
Is not a useful post.

>> No.46707299

>>46707293
...have insomnia

>> No.46707311

Any recs for more subdued Yandere heroines? I don't really like it when they go all knife-pulling, over the top, ゲス顔 psychos.

>> No.46707318

>>46707311
no recs unless you do your own research, list some titles, and ask if any of them are good

>> No.46707321

>>46707274
That may be true, but you are not an average person and you know about the existence of non-nukislop Eroge.

>> No.46707336

For games that have afterstory fandiscs, do you play all routes that interest you in the base game and then play the afterstories in the fandisc, or do you do the afterstory for each route right after completing it in the base game?

>> No.46707347

>Read "after" story
>It takes place BEFORE the epilogue
Every fucking time

>> No.46707363

>>46707336
I always completely the original game 100% first.

>> No.46707365

Any recommendations similar to swan song? The snowy and depressing vibe were perfect

>> No.46707413
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>>46707293
If you want to read something really emotional with a lot of efforts put into world building and magnificent ost. If you want to cry like a little bitch during most of routes and experience real nakige and not just glorified moege with bits of magical bullshit. Read it if you like cats.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrrUGdfkkaU
Oh yeah, make sure your date format set to japanese, not just your locale, it's a separate setting and fvp is going to crash otherwise.

>> No.46707443

I just finished making a table with all the VNs that I have saved on my drives, including name, VNDB link, languages*, 18+ status, and additional notes. Looks like I have almost 230 entries, though worth noting that plenty are just small fandiscs or "literally what" doujinge shared on this general or whatever.
I'm doing this for preservation purposes, basically for the case that the VNs disappear from the internet or the internet itself goes down/becomes ultra-authoritarian.
*I also value having languages other than Japanese for preservation purposes too, because everyone deserves to see the at least a portion of the beauty of VNs even if they aren't interested in learning Japanese

>> No.46707449

>>46707413
I like cats, but can I sex the cat?

>> No.46707475

>>46707443
What about game updates? I check if they are on web archive when I play something.
example https://web.archive.org/web/20240423084343/https://nexton-net.jp/~support/sup_archive.htm

>> No.46707479

>>46707449
Yes.

>> No.46707507

still waiting for LovelyxCation3....
where the fuck is Hibiki Work's

>> No.46707512

>>46707507
>where the fuck is Hibiki Work's
Selling merch.

>> No.46707518

>>46707507
Tasuku is dead

>> No.46707525

I am a Clochettechad.

>> No.46707537

>>46707525
Never heard of them, are they some kind of new studio?

>> No.46707559

>>46707525
>Imaginary brand
Come back to reality anon

>> No.46707570
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>>46707525
>picrel
kamige

>> No.46707578

Hate Shintaro
Hate Sesena
Love Oshiki
Simple as

>> No.46707581

>>46707336
If its not a story-heavy game I play them after playing each heroine's route.

>> No.46708125

>>46707525
Oh chad, tell me if Clochette has any new game upcoming. I miss them.

>> No.46708134

>>46707525
>chad
Whom?

>> No.46708145
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46708145

Me? A Frontwingchad back when they made eroge RIP

>> No.46708147

>>46708145
I'm so fucking upset about what they did to Djibril.

>> No.46708148

>>46708145
>chad
What is this?

>> No.46708151

>>46708148
english translation of yarichin

>> No.46708155

>>46708151
>english translation
>>46704141
This thread is Untranslated.

>> No.46708164

>>46708125
see >>46708134 and >>46708148

>> No.46708172

>>46705923
>One last thing... you may have noticed that the team snuck in a couple of pop culture items. Those text blocks obviously do not match the Japanese text and number in the single digits. We only wanted to have a bit of fun, seeing that it's a free localization and all.
>WE ASSERT THAT OUR RE-INTERPRETATION OF WIND IS SUPERIOR TO THE ORIGINAL.
Is this bait?

>> No.46708274

>>46697440
downloading it now off ryuugames cuase it looks super cute

>> No.46708278

>>46697440
>The infamous (literally)chicken-fucking
For the last time, sca-ji never fucked a chicken.
He just said that he COULD fuck a chicken if he wanted to and it's not weird.

>> No.46708290

>>46708278
>He just said that he COULD fuck a chicken if he wanted to and it's not weird.
That's what a chicken fucker would say.

>> No.46708340

I am glad that he layed down the foundation for enlightening-ge such as Nukitashi, allowing different folks to express themselves in a more accepting manner.

>> No.46708405

>>46708340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjH3_31lGGQ

>> No.46708574

>>46707475
They aren't as crucial, though it's good to eventually download them too. Though torrents often come with updates (and other extras) already.
Also forgot to mention, something that I also record on the table, and possibly what motivated me to make one in the first place, is what games I have confirmed to work (at least in Japanese) and what games are not confirmed to work. Ideally I would test all games even if I'm not planning on actually playing them any time soon, and try to make them work. Imagine how frustrating it would be to want to play an eroge in a post-internet world and then realize that you haven't downloaded a crack for it or something.

>> No.46708657

>>46708574
>realize that you haven't downloaded a crack
Occasionally the crack will be a separate dl so you need to check for it.
Alpharomdie works for many older games at least.

>> No.46708680
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46708680

Do you know any heroine that look and smell just like her?
vndb only gave me one good result.

>> No.46708871

>>46706877
https://vndb.org/v19216 Here

>> No.46708877

>>46706887
>"you're so bad and evil for liking the character I made, aren't I smart?" - author
Faux otaku slop.

>> No.46708912

>>46708877
I hate games like totono that rely on a cheap kind of creativity to lure e-girls and normies.

>> No.46708914
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46708914

Do you have a favorite game with her seiyuu?
https://vndb.org/s475

>> No.46708924

>>46708912
I absolutely despise it even more because it preys on positive feelings and disrespects the players for liking what the author created. It's the ultimate anti-moe weapon.

>> No.46708931

>>46708914
Is that even a question? Obviously the answer is Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc.

>> No.46708934

>>46708931
>Danganronpa
For me it doesn't even register as a VN for some reason.

>> No.46708952

>>46708914
Wtf she voiced Kotori in Rewrite? I can't unhear it now

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fellas, I need opinions on this, worth reading?

>> No.46709279

>>46709009
Yes if you like inaka island setting with a competent MC. Works well as a summer-ge too.

>> No.46709436

What VM software do you guys use for ancient VNs that don't play nice? I was using Virtualbox recently for Rance VI (despite every other game working on my PC, somehow it was the only one that didn't) but started running into some bizarre audio related errors on the virtual OS about 20 hours in, in spite of changing nothing.

>> No.46709443

>>46708934
It's more of a point and click mystery game than a VN. People often forget the point and click genre of games exists.

>> No.46709468

>>46709436
vmware workstation is the only vm with 3d acceleration support for xp, maybe try this

>> No.46709495

>>46709468
Thanks, I'll give it a try. Does it matter if it's the Pro/Player version?

>> No.46709514

>>46708680
I'm not an Americasister so I don't find those proportions to be attractive, but something I find interesting is how "JK2" and "17" had to be censored. The times we live in...

>> No.46709520

>>46708924
No wonder it's often compared to Doki.

>> No.46709530

>>46709495
player will do just fine, get freeware version from official site

>> No.46709682

Do you guys play all of your VNs in fullscreen? I feel like I can't focus on both the visuals and the dialogue when I do, so I usually play in windowed mode and enlarge the window with an upscaler if it's too small.

>> No.46709703

>>46709682
>with an upscaler
I prefer playing the VN, not ai generated content.

>> No.46709714

>>46709682
I stream them to my tablet

>> No.46709798

>>46709682
100% windowed mode always. VNs are just another program in my mind and not a video game that requires fullscreen. What is the upscaler that can upscale windowed mode btw?

>> No.46709827

>>46709682
I'm used to windows VNs so when I start teading a VN that does support it, it feels weird and I just end up keeing it windowed

>> No.46709832

>>46709682
I don't want to sound like that autismo >>46709703 but I read them at the largest integer scale possible for my monitor, whether that turns out to be full screen, full height or (borderless) windowed. So it depends.

>>46709798
SRWE if the engine allows, OBS if not

>> No.46709879

>>46709798
magpie (get it on GitHub) or Lossless Scaling (buy it on Steam or pirate it on csrinru)

>> No.46709889

>>46709879
Is there any noticeable difference in performance between the two?

>> No.46709911

>>46709879
I tried magpie but it upscaled a windowed VN to fullscreen unless there are some settings that I'm missing. I'm looking for something that can enlarge the window by aspect ratio so from 720p to 1080p for example but not making it fullscreen.

>> No.46709912

>>46709889
Get Lossless Scaling enable VRS if you are concerned with performance. Dunno if magpie has that

>> No.46709920

>>46709682
>VN is 800x600 or 1280x720
WIndow mode
>VN is 1920x1080
Fullscreen

>> No.46709927

>>46709911
Again, I use Lossless Scaling, so I don't know if magpie has the custom setting to enlarge a window. But LS has it. Just set the scaling mode to custom from auto

>> No.46709995

>>46709682
I only read stuff with upscalers at this point, magpie with cunny model is really good. I used upscaler on lowres manga too, makes great difference. Naturally I upscale my anime.

>> No.46710005

>>46709912
It does in preview version https://github.com/Blinue/Magpie/releases/tag/v0.11.0-preview1

>> No.46710055

Love it when you update a new game and it's worse than before.

>> No.46710057

>>46705304
You can’t say that without giving us a screenshot or the title come one

>>46705698
The OG was better even concerning art. The remake art was just blend

>> No.46710157

>>46709995
BTW I also use Sugoi Translator Toolkit for reading.

>> No.46710175

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sqhretcaQc

>> No.46710199

>>46710175
Based.

>> No.46710205

>>46709682
>>46709798
Fullscreen feels more immersive like I'm in the VN's world instead of the VN just being "another program".
I honestly don't care too much if it's blurry... it's better than consuming those weird AI hallucinations ("upscalers").
>I feel like I can't focus on both the visuals and the dialogue when I do
That sounds weird. I don't know what might be causing that.

>> No.46710213

>>46710199
>Based
On what exactly??

>> No.46710217

>>46710213
On my COCK (going) UP.

>> No.46710224

>エモーション・ノベル
New genre is born. ENs are the future.
https://ci-en.net/creator/2833

>> No.46710246

>>46710224
>本作は全年齢対象作品です
Whatever.

>> No.46710365

>>46710224
typical pretentious bullshit

>> No.46710488

>>46710224
> ※「エモーション・ノベル」とは?
>  同義の言葉は「ビジュアル・ノベル」ですが、とある事情により自粛しています。
Hmmmm.....
>>46710365
I don't particularly like pretentious things either, but I'm fine with it if it has enough other qualities (particularly moe) or does not spread negative messages (unlike hibi, etc).

>> No.46710492

>>46710246
Christbros... we won.

>> No.46710508

>>46710224
>ENs are the future.
Always were. EN was just a good game.

>> No.46710518

>>46710224
>一緒に作品作りを楽しんでみませんか?

What does that mean?

>> No.46710557

>>46710518
Is DeepL or ChatGPT down?

>> No.46710567

>>46710557
Words have deeper meaning and hidden context beyond their MTL, westoidsister.

>> No.46710593
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>first project
>but also the last one
Am I setting up myself for a disappointment?

>> No.46710618

>>46710567
If you can't read that page and understand what they're saying then you don't know Japanese, westoidgranddaughter.

>> No.46710622

>>46710618
I only read that part.

>> No.46710633

>>46710518
Not sure but I saw their road map which includes episodic trash over several years
Into the fucking trash it goes
Fuck episodic shit

>> No.46710635

>>46710593
I read this years ago and yea it was a disappointment. Lots of ass pulls and one of the route was nonsensical. 4 routes that leads to true end that lasts 5 minutes (similar to Aokana true end funnily enough) . They just ran out of gas in the end I suppose.

>> No.46710637

>>46710157
Me too! It goes so well with upscalers, right?

>> No.46710650

>>46709995
>>46710157
>>46710637
>>>/g/

>> No.46710649

>>46710633
That's what I thought then. Why do creators think "audience input" is a positive thing and not a huge drawback? Episodic trash encourages this by default but seems they are doubling down on that?

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>>46710635
Oof, I guess I will keep my expectation really low then.

>> No.46710657

>>46710633
It's their main point of attraction as they wrote, that player will experience development of game alongside them, not just enjoy finished product

>> No.46710675

>>46710633
I remember buying into episodic VNs when the Angel Beats VN was announced until they canceled it after one game. Fuck Maeda and fuck whatever game he's working on now.

>> No.46710686

>>46710657
They should just make it open source then.

>> No.46710688

>episodic-ge
Am I being too cynical or are we headed into LN territory? Guess it can't be as bad anyway because you need art, voices too, but it's still unpleasant.

>> No.46710702

>>46710675
>whatever game he's working on now
Gachaslop are not "game[s]" (they're endless LN-tier money sinks).

>> No.46710722

>>46710688
I think that it's not as bad as LNs if they have a clearly defined amount of episodes instead of just 勝手に releasing them (not sure if it's the case with this particular VN... erm, "EN").

>> No.46710762

>>46710175
Too many 3D hands.
I figured it would be another western song when they said it wasn't going to be an original composition but it's still disappointing given the game leans heavily on eastern culture.

>> No.46710820

>>46709682
Fullscreen
I have adhd or something and get easily distracted if it's in windowed

>> No.46710829

>>46710175
Not enough awesome looking cool 3d Hands.

>> No.46710846

>>46709682
I am on the fullscreen team.

>> No.46710860

>>46709682
For me, it's windowed during the day and fullscreen at night.

>> No.46710867

How to stop alt-tabbing or mousing over to the hooker program?

>> No.46710870

>>46709682
widescreen NVL - fullscreen, everything else windowed.

>> No.46710886

>>46710867
That's easy to solve anon. Call your pimp and say you'll no longer be working, then you'll no longer have to keep the hooker program in the background anymore (to see if any client has asked for your services)

>> No.46710890

>>46710829
Based, if this VN was a 3D unity game then we could have 3D hands at all times

>> No.46710892

>>46710886
>westoid words
I mean texthooker program, one that captures text from the game.

>> No.46710900

>>46710688
I think VNs, even episodic, wouldn't be able to release like LNs. You need to prepare a lot in advance. Hardest part will be releasing 1st "volume" cause most VNs feature most of characters in the beginning of the story, same with locations and OST. So you'll need most of content(tachie, bgs, soundtracks) done just for beginning.

>> No.46710901

>>46710890
>Based
Upon what?

>> No.46710909

>>46710900
Yeah, looks like our medium is inherently safe-guarded from that garbage.

>> No.46710924

>>46710900
True. And even episodes after the first take plenty of effort.
>Kazuma Kamachi who wrote one novel a month for two years straight
You can't shit out new episode literally every single month unlike L"""N"""s.

>> No.46710941

>>46710901
Upon technological progress for enhancing creativity in VNs such as Unity, upscalers, MTL, Discord screen sharing.

>> No.46710958

>>46710688
VNs entering episodic territory means VNs are dying and undergoing death throes. Episodic releases are very much the opposite of what this medium stood for since its conception. Oops, maybe there won't be an "untranslated visual novels thread" in 5 to 6 years my fellow anons

>> No.46711006

>>46710958
>Oops, maybe there won't be an "untranslated visual novels thread" in 5 to 6 years my fellow anons
Well, even if VNs literally stopped being made and published right now, there would still be decades of VNs to explore and discuss, even if the thread became slower.
Though a schizo thought that I had is that another country like Russia could start making more and better VNs with at least a fraction of the soul of Japanese ones, so part of the community could shift to that.

>> No.46711046

>>46711006
>Though a schizo thought that I had is that another country like Russia could start making more and better VNs with at least a fraction of the soul of Japanese ones, so part of the community could shift to that.
Sadly, it's fallen to the same mind virus that's destroying the West and non-otaku Japan right now and making them unable to create life affirming moe. It might happen in the future but there are certain influential works that lay too much of a shadow on the community that anyone creating with even some soul has to know his mission perfectly, it won't happen by accident or naturally like it does in Japan.

>> No.46711171

>>46710688
The cancer has finally reached VNs
Say your farewells

>> No.46711180

>>46711006
>there would still be decades of VNs to explore and discuss
Yes, but it would be terrible if there were no more kamige made anymore—and there are currently not that many already. It's also worrying that the last kamige is Musicus which came fifteen years into the already seasoned Setoguchi's career. Have gods really forsaken us?
>so part of the community could shift to that
I really wish that people could produce good VNs outside of Japan, but it hasn't happened yet. A few titles I tried were all infested with homo

>> No.46711184

Oh, look, it's another thread where some anon spends hours doomsaying about eroge with conspicuously incorrect terminology. Stop whining and read your backlog, faggot.

>> No.46711219

>>46711180
>last kamige is Musicus
But he literally made two more after that and is working on a new one (or multiple ones).

>> No.46711222

Will new writers be there to replace the old guard?

>> No.46711228

>>46710958
>Episodic releases are very much the opposite of what this medium stood for since its conception.
It was just impossible to do episodic releases in 1990s. Now it's easier than ever, with possibilities of downloadable content, patches, etc.

>> No.46711232

>>46711184
>conspicuously incorrect terminology
Is that like in hibi where it discussed the limits of language?

>> No.46711239

>>46711222
>Zoomer writers
That actually has the power to kill eroge more than anything else

>> No.46711240

>>46711180
>last kamige is Musicus
Moogy, is that you?

>> No.46711244

>>46711239
It's my biggest worry. It's already happening in anime.

>> No.46711263

>>46711239
Qruppo consistently produced kamige though

>> No.46711287

>>46711263
>Qruppo
Our future is safe. Now we will always be educated on important social issues of how one can choose xtheir gender.

>> No.46711346

>>46711287
I see what you're implying there, but Nukitashi was about sexual minorities, so that fits into main theme it was going for.
Henpri has another theme and doesn't have characters with gender issues or non-virgin heroines.

>> No.46711422

>データ数 0
Not much left of those nine lives ;_;

>> No.46711484

>>46710867
Bump.

>> No.46711563

Is there a link to a guide for Ritterorden? Been looking but never found it

>> No.46711731

>>46710867
Read something easier.

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>>46711346
Henpri's theme is technology's role in fostering a more creative and advanced VN-reading experience.

>> No.46711775

>>46711180
Is there a good way of measuring that a ge is a kamige? Some "people" consider hibi and nukitashi to be kamige, for example, while those obviously are diseased trash.

>> No.46711845

>>46710867
>>46711484
What >>46711731 says is technically true, but if you read definitions too often because you're reading something hard, it makes sense, and I don't think it's something particularly bad unless it demotivates you from reading a VN. But if the problem is that you check the dictionary before even trying to think and recall something, then it's bad. In that case, the solution is literally just... not doing that. Though of course, we're not robots who can just flip a switch like that, so I guess you could make the process of looking up words more annoying to discourage you from doing it. For example, quitting texthooking and rather typing the words yourself into the dictionary program/website, and if you don't know some 漢字 you can use those radical-based search things.

>> No.46711848

>>46711775
If there's an anal h scene for every heroine, it's kamige.

>> No.46711871 [DELETED] 

>>46711848
Does it count if they're heroines ()?

>> No.46711876

So what's the theory on why we're getting raided constantly?

>> No.46711888

>>46711848
Does it count if they're heroines (雄)?

>> No.46711893

>>46711845
>For example, quitting texthooking and rather typing the words yourself into the dictionary program/website
The problem is I often mouse over to words I know to double check. I think I might follow this advice.
Is playing another game on Switch/mobile where hooking is impossible a good way too?

>> No.46711891

>>46711876
the old guard have all quit playing eroge for gacha so the only thing filling the gap are EOP shitposters

>> No.46711905

>Hmm, today I'll read Caucasus
>those map segments
I'm not even gonna comment on playing this without a guide but how do people even make an walkthrough of this turbo aids? And I thought KnS was bad.

>> No.46711910

>>46711888
No, that would be a kusoge.

>> No.46711927

>>46711893
>Is playing another game on Switch/mobile where hooking is impossible a good way too?
Maybe, though unless you're a christbro, that poses a disadvantage (gimped experience by removal of H).

>> No.46711931

>>46711876
I ghosted a whole bunch of EOP faggots who simped for me/want me dead and they followed me here, sorry.

>> No.46711944

>>46711931
What? Are you talking about some Discord drama?

>> No.46711959

>>46711910
Any VN featuring ANAL is technically a KUSO(糞)ge, though.

>> No.46711961

>>46711944
This, >>46711931 is literal gibberish to me. Maybe he should go back to where people understand his language?

>> No.46711995

>>46710867
>>46711845
I just played something else which you can't hookcuck. Drawing the words out really helped. The Metal Gear Solid games are nice because the grammar isn't too bad and it's all voiced. Mostly just the specialized vocabulary you have to look up.

>> No.46712013

>>46711876
My theory is that there are 2 retards from shitcord baiting each other, even more than before now that the removed the IP count
Really sad that such a niche hobby with an even more niche thread(only japanese language allowed) isn't safe from cancer infecting this site.

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lol.
This either mean read or revere.
If even the russian love it i should probably read it too.

>> No.46712099

>>46712037
>war criminal
>Почитай subahibi
www
source?

>> No.46712133

>>46712013
I don't understand how discord use has been so normalised on /jp/. I made a bait post some threads ago to detect how many of them were here and at least one guy seriously admitted to using it.

>> No.46712165

>>46705829
>I've never used MTL and I'm not an expert on this subject
You seem to care a lot about it?

>> No.46712179

>>46711944
I'm talking about yanderes but not the cute girl ones.

>> No.46712184

>>46712179
see >>46711961
Nobody cares.
>>>/r/eddit/

>> No.46712189

>>46712099
Just a videogame, took me by surprise.
I'll download Subahibi tonight.

>> No.46712190

>>46712179
>yanderes
>but not the cute girl ones
"Based" faux otaku, my discord bro!

>> No.46712202

>>46712189
Subahibi is nihilistic pretentious garbage though. Why would you download it. The only things it does well is art and music.

>> No.46712221

>>46712189
Make sure to buy it on Steam. You will be supporting localizers and Sca-ji that way.
For every Wonderful Everyday copy that you buy on Steam, Sca-ji wins one more Twitter argument.

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>>46712221
And be sure to ignore the game's message and read Sca-di's Xitter instead. That is where the true answers are, it's not so simple as just 幸福に生きよ!

>> No.46712262,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>46711871
This was meant to have a male symbol inside the parentheses but apparently 4chan filters that.
So, I replaced it with a post using the kanji for male. In a way, it's even more fitting for this thread.

>> No.46712274

>>46712262
You insolent. How dare you not follow our Lord and savior?

>> No.46712279

>>46712202
Eh it's free, and if i don't like it i'll just stop reading, it's not a problem.

>> No.46712329

>>46712190
Not that anon but I used to have an online Japanese friend who would always say "animes" He probably assumed that was the way we called it.

>> No.46712335

>>46712329
The faux otaku is because he suggests there is "yandere" that is not a cute girl but some discord bro.

>> No.46712351

So now that SCA-自 is outed as a fake, who is the real philosophy-ge writer?

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46712362

It's katakana gains time

>> No.46712388

>if Subahibi is SCA-JI's mind, then Sakura no Uta is his heart
Is it true?

>> No.46712418

>>46712388
That's right, he is giving over each and every part of his body to art, one by one. SakuToki was his penis. There won't even be a dust left of him by the time he's done. How noble and aristocratic.

>> No.46712427

>>46705829
I used it with chinese webnovels.
It's terrible at translating jokes, tone, and complex prose
Details are completely wrong at times (usually you can tell though)
It takes months to get used to it and the results are subpar.

>> No.46712479

>>46712427
>chinese webnovels
Literally what's the point? I imagine it being like LNs, but 9999 times worse.

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>>46712362

>> No.46712496

>>46712479
They're actually like LNs but 9999x better for the simple change that the MCs aren't pussies.

>> No.46712500

>>46712427
Mtl from chink is like 20 times worse than from japanese, it's close to impossible to reach any passable results with it

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>>46712427
>chinese webnovels
Is it like pic related?

>> No.46712596

>>46712500
Shouldn’t you already understand like 80% of it just by knowing Japanese?

>> No.46712628

>>46712500
>he can compare to Japanese MTL
Interesting how you know about that…

>> No.46712632

>>46710633
They have been working on it since 2019. What the fuck are they doing?

>> No.46712654

>>46712596
No. It's more like less than 10%, even if you're good at Japanese.

>> No.46712660

>>46712596
Knowing japanese makes it worse because you unconsciously keep reading it with janapese readings which usually makes no sense
I'm unable to look at kaji without pronouncing them in my head anymore

>> No.46712693

>>46709682
for old nukige I've started setting my main monitor to 800x600 and then playing old games in windowed mode so that I can still click stuff on the 2nd monitor without set getting fucked. Old moege I just play windowed, new games I tend to play full screened without having to fuck with resolution.

>> No.46712777

>>46710175
I liked the OP song for maggot baits more. I dig the chick with the back tattoo and the blonde girl. Some of the poses of the male charcters make it look like their about to start a round of Yu Gi Oh. Movie didnt seem to reveal anything to messed up, you could almost assume it would be a switch game if not for the fact it's ClOCKUP. I look forward to it.

>> No.46712800

>>46712596
It's like knowing German and English and attempting to read a French newspaper.

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Hope this isn't too spicy for the jannies but lol

>> No.46712899

>>46712596
Try to read this.
由於受法例所限,這類色情遊戲只准售賣予18歲或以上人士,故此计算机软件伦理机构將這類遊戲稱為「R18遊戲」,不過一般人大多直稱其為「H-Game」或「18禁遊戲」等非正式名稱[4]。由於這類遊戲的性幻想對象或虛擬女友幾乎全是動漫風格的美少女角色,故此日本玩家及開發商愛稱其為美少女遊戲(美少女ゲーム),然而因為「美少女遊戲」也涵蓋沒有露骨性愛描繪但同樣使用動漫風格美少女角色的遊戲,故此該詞的歧義可能會引起誤解。

>> No.46713068

Can any of you share https://vndb.org/v25764
It originally came with the Hanahime Absolute fanbook. This might be a longshot because there's not even very many dead links out there for it.

>> No.46713106

>>46713068
I thought it's up on AS a while ago

>> No.46713159

>>46713068
>longshot
So long it's not doujin it is most likely on ab
pixeldrain com /u/uuUiBPVN

>> No.46713222

Are there any tools I can use to try to play newer (ie. targeted at Windows 10/11) VNs on Windows 7 without severe issues?

>> No.46713234

>>46713222
Gentoo GNU/Linux

>> No.46713238

>>46713234
>>>/g/

>> No.46713244

>>46713222
Are there actually new VNs that wouldn't work on W7? I thought most of them still use ages old engine.

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>>46713234
>>46713238

>> No.46713269

>>46713244
I don't know if it's because I'm using Windows 7 instead of 10/11 (could be some other reason), but Da Capo 5 doesn't display anything for me (though sound, input, etc work).

>> No.46713289

>>46712329
You can't name a single denpa that isn't exactly that, though. It's a mystery why zoomers are so obsessed with them.

>> No.46713294

>>46713269
you are probably doing something wrong, because it works on win7

>> No.46713300

>>46713289
Meant for >>46712202

>> No.46713457

>>46710688
I started getting into VNs because they have beginnings and ends.
I understand why they are moving to episodics, probably money reason, I just don’t like it.

>> No.46713476

>>46713457
i have the feeling it's going to work out exactly the same way as half-life did by switching to episodic format
>we're gonna do episodes so we can get content out faster and cheaper at the cost of them being shorter
>take just as long to get them out as full games and they're not cheaper either
>never end up finishing the story either
but at least they're shorter!

>> No.46713618

>>46713159
Thanks for this.

>> No.46713620

>>46704630
>iroseka
Nice game, but I get a テータ展開中にエラーが発生しました error at a specific spot at the beginning of the game.

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What a hot day

>> No.46713649

>>46713631
where is this from?

>> No.46713657

>>46713620
Do you mean this https://github.com/Nekotekina/favoload

>> No.46713689

>>46713657
I have Japanese version OS with Japanese regional settings and all, but I guess I can still try that...

>> No.46713818

>>46713689
Iroseka requires some weird settings like date and number formats to be set to Japanese too.

>> No.46713863

>>46713818
Based, on locking out gaijin. They should make it look up your IP too and crash if it is not in Japan.

>> No.46713891

>>46713863
It's almost certainly just terrible programming job in this case.

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so anyone playing nikuniku 2? is there yuri in it?

>> No.46713895

>>46713818
I initially had tried extracting the RAR with 7zip but it gave me an "unspecified error". I tried extracting it with another program, and the extraction worked, but the game was giving me errors.
I just tried rather using WinRAR to extract the RAR, and now the game works fine.

>> No.46713912

>>46713895
Your description sounds like a hardware memory problem.

>> No.46713953

>>46713631
Happoubi Jin = GOD

>> No.46713994
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>>46705829
It depends on how text focused the VN is, but generally it's going to be pretty bad.
If it's something that has a very heavy focus on gameplay, you could probably MTL it and have an enjoyable experience. (E.G. Dungeons & Dolls, Waidonyo, Mahjong Connect, anything by Illusion)
If the writing is meaningful it's going to be gruesome. The more lovely a work of literature is, the worse MTL will mangle it.

MTLing is not significantly easier than learning Japanese.
Studying is more difficult up front, but only gets easier and easier as you go on. MTL is always a slog, no matter how much time you spend doing it. If you don't read very slowly, carefully, and awkwardly, you won't catch its mistakes.
MTL fucks up constantly. Even a completely raw beginner will make less major mistakes. It especially struggles with positive/negative; it can't tell the difference between "We should go to the beach" and "We shouldn't go to the beach". Sarcasm is a complete non-starter. Metaphors are hopeless.

In time, these problems may be fixed. But much of the challenge of reading Japanese comes not from the language itself, but understanding the cultural context the text was written in.
I'm sure that some MTL exists that can correctly translate 「おうちをきいてもわからない なまえをきいてもわからない」, but there are none which will tell you that they are lines from いぬのおまわりさん, which is what's actually crucial to know to understand that text.

MTL may well be better than official translations, but that's like saying mud is more nutritious than cement. Both are terrible options only the desperate would consider.

>> No.46714024

>>46713994
>food analogy

>> No.46714052

>>46713994
>>46705829
>エロゲスレ/Untranslated VN General
Get out.
>>>/g/
>>>/r/eddit/

>> No.46714063

>MTL this MTL that
Why can you not leave us along and use DJT or some other garbage site?

>> No.46714097

>>46713294
I just tried on a Windows 10 system and it worked. On Windows 7 it doesn't. Maybe I don't have some DirectX thing or whatever installed, though I don't have problems with other VNs.

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@46713994
i'm glad this is all meaningless to me because i'm not an mt*er and would never know any of these details k*k.
>>46705829
>I know that MTL is a controversial subject
so why are you posting it here? maybe ask somewhere people actually use it. or ask the poster above in d*sc*rd.
>>46714063
they need to feel cultured and be part of a smaller elite group.

>> No.46714103

>>46713994
You can discuss MTL in these threads
>>46708906
>>46705747
>>>/vg/475618052

>> No.46714112

>>46713994
You seem so knowledgeable on MTL! Can I subscribe to your Youtube channel with video essays on VN and on the Japanese in them?

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>>46713994
t.

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>>46713994

>> No.46714132

>>46713893
On like day 12 in game and about 6 or 7 hours in (I'm slow though and save and reload a lot) and no I haven't seen any yet but it's possible it depends on the route you end up in, which I think depends on what you feed him, I dunno.

>> No.46714151

>>46714131
>2-3 weeks of copy pasting and checking if the lines align
I can't believe this post is real.

>> No.46714157

>>46714151
>Takes 2-3 weeks of copy pasting and checking if the lines align (cause ChatGPT merges lines sometimes, but it's totally worth the effort.
It truly reads like poorly crafted bait.

>> No.46714161

>>46713269
>>46714097
https://circus-co.jp/product/dc5/characters/tougo/
You're better off without playing this unless you love groomerge.

>> No.46714192

>>46714157
Sadly the dude is unironical, he keeps posting his "translations" on twitter and pretending like he is superior
He even came here with his Hatsuyuki sakura "impressions" just to prove once again that mtl is nothing but a fanfic

>> No.46714225
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>>46714161
I can already bet that he is going to end up being the best char in the game

>> No.46714231

>>46714132
I see, thanks. I guess I'm getting baited by the cover? did you play the first game? is it actually interesting or just "haha here's some quick edge"

>> No.46714291

>>46714192
Wait, the Hatsuyuki blogposter we had on this thread some weeks ago was actually this reddit xitter MTLer???

>> No.46714342
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46714342

you guys seem to have a lot of free time maybe someone can tell me what the status of DLC for the last few waffle games is? i might be able to grab some that are missing. here's one from the newest game that just game out, didn't see it on AS not sure if it's anywhere else
pixeldrain com /u/djKhSgF9

>> No.46714357

>>46714291
No i'm talking about the retarded posts he kept spamming under every Hatsuyuki sakura post à la it has no romance

>> No.46714632

>>46713994
Contrary to the shitposting around this guy, this is actually an anti MTL post.

>> No.46714710

>>46714632
we already know translations suck
we don't need MTL analysis in the untranslated general

>> No.46714724

>>46714710
>we already know translations suck
Evidently, the guy who asked didn't. We don't need discussions on it but it's better than letting some guy think its good so he comes back here and shits up the place with bad opinions based on shit translations

>> No.46714739

>>46714632
>actually an anti MTL
By an MTLer...

>> No.46714761

>>46713994
Kek, didn't think I'd see you here. I'm pretty sure I recognise you from a certain Discord server.

>> No.46714767

>>46714739
Well, unless you're some ESL from the third world, no one with actual fluency in English unironically thinks MTL is good. Admitting you MTL something is equivalent to telling people you're homosexual who takes fat dicks up your ass. No one needs to know about your shameful secret.

>> No.46714775

>>46714761
>Discord
see >>46714103

>> No.46714781

>>46714767
>No one needs to know about your shameful secret.
Which is why >>46713994 displaying knowledge about MTL outs him as someone who should not be posting his discord video-essay tier analysis here.

>> No.46714802

>anything by illusion
i have been seeing it being mentioned a lot lately whenever someone pretends to be a guru of eroge
can anyone explain to me which titles exactly are being referred to with such high praise and what is actually good about them?

>> No.46714814

>>46713994
>you could probably MTL it and have an enjoyable experience.
MTLbro...

>> No.46714829

>>46714724
>t's better than letting some guy think its good so he comes back here and shits up the place with bad opinions based on shit translations
Honestly I'd take that over off topic meta mtl shilling. Bad opinions on a game can provide some comedy and are on-topic.

>> No.46714851

>>46714802
No idea about their oldest VN shit but some of their earlier 3D eroge, @Homemate, Artificial Girl 3 and Artificial Academy 1/2, aren't too bad. AG3 and the AA1/2 games is basically watered down Sims while @Homemate is dating sim jank.

>> No.46714899

>>46714802
>illusion
3d simulation games that have no story. They are now illgames.
https://www.dlsite.com/pro/work/=/product_id/VJ01000785.html

>> No.46714936

>>46714802
it was the company that "popularized" "eroge" as such in the west (rapelay)
mainly receiving criticism that they were making "problematic" games
interesting how some things don't change

>> No.46715127

>>46714851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shao-hbHpLE
this whole game looks like one big shitpost, i like it

>> No.46715144

>>46715127
This looks like the most retarded shit ever.
Finally found something to play

>> No.46715156

>>46715127
The most I remember about that game is chasing down girls and forcing them to piss themselves. Also jamming it in whenever they trip themselves. Good times. It had plenty of modding support back then, too

>> No.46715206

>>46714851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KcjS3q41Gw
Just how many variations of personalities there are holy shit, and everything is voiced? The total amount of voice lines must be ridiculous, how did they even get one seiyuu to voice all this

>> No.46715218

>>46715206
It's all voiced. There's a lot more from the modding community as well. Though, the quality is really hit or miss from them. Illusion actually got some pretty decent and varied VAs for the AA series. A shame Koikatsu is the opposite.

>> No.46715220

pandora's box has been opened, now we will all fall into the illusion rabbit hole together

>> No.46715226

>>46715220
And all will lead to a resurrection of /hgg/

>> No.46715243

>>46715206
Vocaloid.

>> No.46715248

god i love ntr
its so real and raw

>> No.46715252

>>46715248
Me too, plotge is da best.

>> No.46715254

Might be a dumb question, but is there a reason why garbro doesn't open up rar archives? Is it because it's a proprietary format? I just want to preview data without needing to extract/install the game.

>> No.46715256
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I've been playing AI Shoujo a lot lately myself because I felt in love with a Mona card I slightly edited...

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>>46715127
wtf moege

>> No.46715270

>>46715256
You can have a cat? kino

>> No.46715285

>>46715256
Can you fuck the cat?

>> No.46715317
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46715317

How is the VN reading experience for blind people? You probably have to use a texthooker in conjunction with a TTS (for unvoiced lines) and/or one of those expensive braille displays. The problem is that you will lose kanji unless you use one of those clusterfucked kanji braille encoding systems. Not to speak of, well, not seeing the graphics.

>> No.46715325

>>46715317
yeah i'd kill myself if i was blind

>> No.46715330

>>46715317
Not seeing cute girls is death.

>> No.46715428

>>46715325
there's truly no other option

>> No.46715520

>>46714099
>>46714118
>>46714131
We clearly need to kill all djtards so they stop shitting this thread up.

>> No.46715604

>>46714231
its good
the second game already fixed what i disliked about the first which was that the whole thing took place in the mansion

>> No.46715679

Devs need to stop including black screen for scene transition
I don't want to see my face

>> No.46715683

>>46715679
ugly people problems

>> No.46715692 [SPOILER] 
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yuri denied
ntr'd by shota

>> No.46715693

>>46715679
I hate retarded meta posts like this.

>> No.46715702

>>46715692
pretty based, picked up

>> No.46715712

>>46715693
then report them instead of replying, this thread has been a disaster anyway barely lasting a day thanks to shitposting

>> No.46715714

>>46715692
>shota removes gay
wtf I love shota now?!?!!

>> No.46716123
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46716123

finished 昴の騎士.
i'll try to keep the gushing to an appreciable level but man what a great time that was. there's a certain pleasure in following a specific writer through their works and seeing them get (ideally) better at their craft, and it feels like here is where it really clicked for him. the character interactions and plot beats and even gameplay elements and art were all a big step up from the previous game. you could also totally see where he caught the sci-fi bug that mahou shoujo ran with. still fairly held back by the piece of shit engine it runs on but the addition of CGs and skill cut-ins made it so you didn't have to run on 90% imagination like the last couple.

plot was solid, a good excuse to go on an adventure that balloons out into fate of the world shenanigans. classic jrpg feel, no complaints here. though i'm once again really curious where the dev is getting all this gratuitous italian.

i fucking adored the cast, even when it got to the inevitable endgame bloat. fantastic banter with everyone finding a good niche to fill out and at least a couple banter buddies. tons of callbacks and running jokes and brick jokes and all that stuff that i love. i will miss these little shits but the long-ass epilogue covered pretty much everything i wanted to. Sirius was a fairly bland shounen MC but his "fuck it, i'll make it work" attitude was endearing enough and his interactions with Tiera sold the romance well. sorry Spica-tan, you never had a chance. but the fact that the game and mos of the characters clearly considered him to be in the running as a heroine will never stop being funny to me
was also really surprised by the hidden/secret characters, not only did they give them a ton of regular interactions with the cast, the returning characters from OtoZ had a whole plot line going that tied up a major loose end from that game. granted the conditions weren't hard to clear but you'd miss out on a lot if you didn't recruit them.

obligatory gripes: difficulty kinda fell off for a while towards the end, even the last map was less brutal than usual. some of the late joining characters were kinda lame and didn't add much. i expected more relevance out of Betelgeuse since he was on the start screen and all. i'm getting sick of what i assume is default srpg studio 95 music because it's been the same shit for three games now. how the hell does everyone in what appears to be mostly a podunk pre-industrialized civilization know all this modern science/cosmology stuff.

tl;dr it's great, i had a lot of fun with it.
i guess i'm a sucker for the way this guy does characters. there's not usually a huge amount of depth or development to them but they're hard carried by how they play off each other.

i should give this shit a rest for a while but 闇鍋企画 is apparently a big fandisk melting pot (a yaminabe, even) so i feel i ought to play it while i still remember who everyone is
but if that fucking cat comes back again i swear to god

>> No.46716189

>>46716123
thank you for your service of reading one-man no-budget kusoge to find the actually good ones

>> No.46716193

>>46714342
I remember an anon was looking for Dasoku DLCs. I'd like to have them too, for completion's sake.
https://vndb.org/v29098
If possible, I also would like the DLCs for
https://vndb.org/v36749
https://vndb.org/v28649
I did a skim and most recent titles were DL versions, which already included the DLCs, or I managed to find the DLCs on AS.
Well, there's some stuffs from the Kyonyuu 10th anni box, but hell knows if anyone's gonna upload that.

>> No.46716206

>>46715679
Change your lighting setup to have no lights behind your back, play your eroge in total darkness, or just buy a display with matte finish. These ways you won't have such problems with reflections.

>> No.46716473

life's getting to the point where i gotta read a moege for the first time in years

>> No.46716577

>>46715679
Sounds like your screen has a glass-like texture. Do you play on your phone or something?

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>>46715679

>> No.46716765
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>> No.46716786

>>46716193
i'll up them sometime next thread. but do you know why the DL versions came with DLCs? i noticed the limited edition 2 game set for 人間不信の錬金術師と元兵士のホムンクルス supposedly has all DLC included so were they like that? or were they just added after the fact?

also if anyone has these 2 xmas 2019 waffle bonuses to share i'd appreciate it, can't grab them anymore since they were limited time
https://vndb.org/v27659
https://vndb.org/v27661

>> No.46716894

>>46716623
I don't like when westoid comics or cartoons parody/make fun of Japanese 2D media or its fans. It almost feels like the former is jealous of the latter's superiority and projects that through dumb mocking.

>> No.46716898

>>46716623
Get this westoid trash out of here.

>> No.46716904

>>46716894
He’s likely a self-hating ironic weeb type. Only they would think anyone else finds that image interesting or funny.

>> No.46716963

Bishop VNs should be classified as moeges. They all follow the same pattern of falling in love with their rapist and the rapist taking responsibility for getting the girl pregnant. If that isn't a moege then I don't know what a moege should be.

>> No.46716981

>>46711563
Don't think so, but you don't really need one. Just know that the route order is princess -> fine -> dominika -> crystal and crystal's unlocks last with a new choice near the start of dominika's

>> No.46717045

>>46716894
This. They know we have better quality and artistic merit so they need to find something to attack. So much for their acceptance. You can love fiction if it promotes ugliness but those who seek purity, beauty and cuteness are evil.

>> No.46717083

>>46716623
ronnie is the best

>> No.46717086

>>46717045
>You truly like these characters? Heh, I know on a meta-level how that’s abusive and am just pretending to be weeb. You’re evil! You’re treating them as pixels on a screen! But they are, and we are too because nothing is real, but you are still evil and should not love characters that embody the good in this world! Watch Marvel and more mature media like Game of Thrones!
- westoid faux otaku irony weeb.

>> No.46717093

>>46717083
>knowing what this westoid garbage even is
I think you’re in the wrong thread on the wrong board. Self hating weebs gather at >>>/r/eddit/

>> No.46717108

If someone doesn’t think our medium is objectively the best fiction humanity has to offer, I know he’s an ironic weeb that serves the westoid interests.

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>>46717083
I like Ronnie, because he is me.

>> No.46717147

>>46717136
see >>46716898
>>>/out/

>> No.46717151

>>46717136
>>46717083
Are we getting raided? Why are you spamming this ugly artstyle? Why are you spamming in a VN thread about beauty with your ugliness? In this thread fellow otaku discuss their own mediu, we don’t know or want your spam here.

>> No.46717154

Daily reminder that if you consume any westoid art, you are not welcome here.

>> No.46717160

>>46716786
Honestly, I have no idea. The DLCs included in the DL versions seem to only be mail order ones, and not other types like questionaire or points. A "thank you for buying" basically.
The 2-games set seems to include instructions to download the DLCs separately. The torrent I found looks like it only has the base games.

Yeah, I have them here.
pixeldrain com/u/Z6LAhPXw

Thanks in advance!

>> No.46717176

>>46717136
>>46717083
>>46716623
Great post. Where can I subscribe to your patreon?

>> No.46717190

>>46717136
Words can’t describe how repulsed I am by this ugly “art”. I need moege NOW

>> No.46717199

>>46716577
NTA but there are glossy PC displays too.
For example I have Gigabyte FO48U and it's totally awesome as a display for playing eroge but as downsides it requires some care to avoid burn-in and it's glossy as hell.

>> No.46717204

I was trying to sleep when a mad mosquito bit my left pinky finger, so I thought to myself "fuck it, I'mma fap" then read some er0ge and started fapping. The pussy was hidden though, so I looked for another er0ge. Then I feel my penis is hurt. I think to myself "Damn! Did I rub it raw?" Then I think "maybe the mosquito found my penis while I had it out fapless, looking for some nice er0ge." And yeah, there's a lesion on it. So I didn't cum to make sure the penis can heal itself. Next time I fap maybe tomorrow or the day after. In conclusion: put an onaho on your penis if you want to prevent mosquitoes sucking on it.

>> No.46717206

>>46717204
that's what condoms are for

>> No.46717237

Didn't know /vn/ was accepting of western artworks...

>> No.46717241

>>46717237
/vn/ always was anon, but this is not /vn/. Seems like those westoid-lovers got lost on their way there.

>> No.46717246

oh no the sun is rising
eroge playing time comes to an end...

>> No.46717252

>>46717237
The /jp/ eroge general is now accepting of western artwork as this is now the EOP/MTL general. /vn/ is no longer accepting western artwork as it is now the Untranslated Visual Novel General.

>> No.46717258

>>46717190
Speaking of art, which artists’s works should be displayed in a museum for future generations of otaku to see?

>> No.46717261

More eroge companies should release customized onaholes for each of their heroines alongside their releases.

>> No.46717265

>>46717258
Piromizu
Ruby-sama

>> No.46717338

>>46717258
chocochip

>> No.46717364

>>46717338
she's still single btw!

>> No.46717492
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46717492

>>46717258
mignon
I love how he draws trap thighs.

>> No.46717498

>>46717492
I can't read trapshit anymore just reminds me too much about trannies

>> No.46717507

>>46717498
mindbroken

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>>46717265
>Piromizu
I don't know bro, this guy seems to hate youth.

>> No.46717523

>>46717492
What's the appeal? Looks literally just like every other "draw girl, call it a boy" schlock.

>> No.46717531

>>46717492
Looks ** generated.

>> No.46717532

>>46717498
The context of that picture is the upcoming game "Otome Sekai no Arukikata", which is going to be far from "normal" trapslop. The story is about a hyper-feminist society and the trap MC is a sort of rebel. I hate this word, but I predict that it may end up being "b*s*d".

>> No.46717535

>>46717532
>The story is about a hyper-feminist society and the trap MC is a sort of rebel
Sounds like nukitashi but worse

>> No.46717537

>>46717523
Look at his thigh. It's drawn so well. It's almost perplexing.

>> No.46717544

>>46717265
If the theme of the museum is to show how to NOT draw then yes, you're right.

>> No.46717545

>>46717532
>The story is about a hyper-feminist society
So it’s already failed by bringing in that ugliness into our beautiful world. It still normalises that even if it’s “rebelling” or whatever.

>> No.46717561

>>46717535
This. We are entering the end of things.

>> No.46717580

>>46717561
We just need more **-generated "art" and L*-style episodic releases.

>> No.46717598

>>46717580
They will be there to help. it’s a war on us from two fronts. On one side westoid ideology, on the other westoid form.
But I stand for acceleration of ai and censhorship so the true otaku artists can shine even more.

>> No.46717612

>>46717514
Go back to your MTL reddit threads.

>> No.46717638

>>46717612
Bro, why do you love expired cakes?

>> No.46717644

>>46704141
I'm realizing I like one true ends or enforced playing orders in my chuunige more than "choose your route". they feel disjointed most of the time

>> No.46717661

What I hope doesn’t happen is the cancer of animated bgs/立ち絵 spreading because of unity-ge. I want to meditate over the scenery and get immersed in the world and characters, not watch some cringe movement for movement’s sake.

>> No.46717675

>>46717644
I don't know how you can take a while to realize that. I've always felt that way from the first chuunige I read

>> No.46717706

>>46717638
It's a westoid falseflagger who's trying to spread hag propaganda, while the truth is that young girls are one of the core elements of otaku culture.

>> No.46717713

>>46717706
>one of the core elements of otaku culture
you mean THE core element, and also the foundation of moe?

>> No.46717730

>>46717364
Why doesn't she marry me?

>> No.46717902

Sprite will save eroge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4up7QRv-h8

>> No.46717911

>>46717902
By releasing non-eroge faggot shit?

>> No.46717932

>>46717902
Is it an EN (emotion novel)?

>> No.46717998

>>46717902
sprite can go eat shit and die

>> No.46718069

>>46717911
Yurige is better as allage anyway since it's supposed to be pure

>> No.46718093

>>46718069
As "pure" as all-ages BL shit.

>> No.46718109

If you only had 1-1.5 years, which games would you read?

>> No.46718154

>>46718109
reread all my favourite chuunige, then reread my other favourite VNs then reread them all again but make sure my last is one of my favourite moege

>> No.46718181

>>46717902
Did they already cancel their other projects? Websites are dead.
https://jashinchan.net/
https://aokana.net/if01/

>> No.46718205

>>46718181
https://filmicnovel.com/lineup/jashinchan-7th-devil/
https://filmicnovel.com/lineup/aokana-if01/
still up, but most of info was scrapped

>> No.46718225

>>46718205
...and both of these redirect to sprite website after few minutes of idle
looks like it's dead

>> No.46718228

Any games with protagonists like this?
>Throughout the novel, he rarely leaves his room or bed. In the first 50 pages, he only manages to move from his bed to a chair.

>> No.46718230

>>46718225
anime shit and aokana shit
nothing of value was lost

>> No.46718274

>>46718230
I started my HRT thanks to aokana, so STFU.

>> No.46718278

Trying too hard

>> No.46718311

>>46716123
>following a specific writer through their works and seeing them get (ideally) better at their craft
Wrong way to do it if you want to enjoy the games more.
Right way to do it if you think you are some eroge critic.

>> No.46718338

>>46718311
I enjoy going backwards and looking at it in the reverse direction.

>> No.46718349

>>46718311
The fuck are you talking about?

>> No.46718395

>>46718338
>>46718349
For any regular human bean, playing the same author/genre/series back to back to back will make you appreciate the goodness/difference/uniqueness of that author/genre/series less.
Thats why playing another game in a different genre in between is the correct way to go to appreciate something fully.

>> No.46718404

>>46718395
That's what I do. if it's the same author, I make sure it's different enough from the previous thing I've read.

>> No.46718821

>>46715254
Probably not worth the effort of implementing support, since everyone has WinRAR proper / not worth updating to RAR5/RAR6 format / Win11 supports it natively. All formats of Garbro are proprietary, but RAR format is documented by the devs themselves.

>>46715679
At least it's not your penis.

>> No.46718837

>>46717258
https://vndb.org/s3585

>> No.46718842

>>46718821
I'll have you know I have more than a mere zako

>> No.46718883
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>>46717258
i would visit a chocochipu expo

>> No.46718912

>>46718837
no

>> No.46718955

How can I increase, or maybe even maximize my self-insertion capabilities?

>> No.46718968

>>46718955
Have you tried reading a visual novel?

>> No.46718974

>>46718395
>playing the same author/genre/series back to back to back
i'm not sure where in that post i implied that was the case
i'm playing loads of other stuff in between, i just don't feel they're worth posting about

>> No.46718983

>>46718955
Read out loud.
Yes even during hscenes.

>> No.46718986

>>46717911
>>46718093
Saying that gayfaggotry is equal to yuri is gender equality brainwashing.
Males and females are spiritually different and gayfaggotry is inherently disgusting, but yuri can be cute and sweet.
>>46718069
I have to disagree here. Westoid brainwashing makes you think that sex is "dirty" AND that there's no problem with dirty things, but the truth is that dirty things are bad, but sex does NOT necessarily have to be dirty. In the context of a faithful relationship, sex can be pure.

>> No.46718989

>>46718986
Men and women are literally exact same thing bro.

>> No.46718997

>>46718986
>cute and sweet
Maybe if you're a disgusting faggot. Heroine holes are for my (the protagonist's) cock. No compromise since I'm not a cuck.

>> No.46719012

>>46718109
>If you only had 1-1.5 years
If I only had 1-1.5 years I wouldn't even have the mental capabilities to avoid shitting my diaper, so how could you expect me to READ things??

>> No.46719023

>>46719012
>If I only had 1-1.5 years I wouldn't even have the mental capabilities to avoid shitting my diaper
Must suck being born a westoid.

>> No.46719031

>>46718955
Play おさわり / VR / first-person view games, anything with as direct interaction as possible
Some ShiinaRio games (onomatope*raspberry ones) support onahole if you have extra money to burn

>> No.46719042

>>46719031
>support onahole
exactly what i was looking for
picked up and thanks

>> No.46719044

>>46718997
Self-insertion is not an option (and if it is, then that's a bad precedent, so to speak), but you can still try to empathize with the MC/characters.
>cuck
Two girls unrelated to you being together is definitely not the same thing as a girl that was supposed to be involved to you being involved with another man.

>> No.46719048

>>46718989
So true, I'm glad that SCADI talked about it.

>> No.46719069

>>46719044
The girls are related to me, the male protagonist, as female heroines in my game. I do not read games with female protagonists because I am straight and a male. I cannot empathize with retarded creatures so an all-girls VN is off the table. Might be different if you're female, gay, or can easily relate to that form of unintelligent life.

>> No.46719086

>>46718395
>For any regular human bean
???

>> No.46719093

>>46718986
"yuri is pure and sweet" must be a fucking mantra that you need to parrot on and on about once you fall into this cult of faggotry. Male x Male or Female x Female are both equally gay, end of story.

>> No.46719105

>>46719093
actually male x male is a bit more straight so long as there's no sex since you can just pass it off as bros being bros which is one of the straightest parts of being a straight man

>> No.46719106

>>46719093
Yes, one is gay (bad) and the other is gay (good).

>> No.46719115

>>46719106
The bad one is girl x girl btw

>> No.46719116

>>46718842
whoever told you this word trained you wrong as a joke

>> No.46719118

>>46719105
Nice fudanshi mental gymnastics. Being straight is defined by being attracted to the opposite sex. Drooling over males then is NOT "one of the straightest parts of being a straight man". But looking at two girls being together is very straight from the perspective of a man.

>> No.46719126

>>46719115
Fujocunts not welcome here.
Your home is over there ---> >>46681926

>> No.46719127

>>46719106
Yes, BL actually does have good writers. Can't say the same for yuri? SCAT-JI???? lol

>> No.46719131

>>46719118
Male bonding and brotherhood is straight. Read your first chuunige.

>> No.46719135 [DELETED] 

>>46719127
>>46719126

>> No.46719141

>>46719131
No, you could say that it's "manly", or some similar concept. But straightness, strictly speaking, is attraction to the opposite sex.

>> No.46719145 [DELETED] 

>>46719126
>>>/u/, c/u/ckold

>> No.46719152 [DELETED] 

>>46719145
>c/u/ckold
See >>46719044

>> No.46719157 [DELETED] 

>>46719152
See >>46719069

>> No.46719162

>>46719127
It's curious why BL continues to sell well and have interesting stories while yuri relatively doesn't sell well and have a boring stories catered to the yurimoebutas (if moebutas are garbage then yurimoebutas are like the dumpster juice from moebutas)

>> No.46719171

>>46719162
BLords have Nitroplus on their side while yurisisters have... innoshit gay? sprite (lol)?

>> No.46719184

>>46717258
Happoubi Jin

>> No.46719198

The future generations need to learn about Mikagami Mamizu's big fat palm sized nipples

>> No.46719199

>>46719162
Because beyond the disgusting homoshit, BL writers actually care about developing the protagonist and want to make believable interactions. Some of them are accomplished in writing regular eroge even, so it says a lot about them.

>> No.46719212

>>46719171
Oh yeah, yurisisters also have those guro games. But they end up having a shota raping the girls which is what makes them good.

>> No.46719448

>>46719199
Can you recommend me some good BL games with good story? Narrative is highest priority.

>> No.46719458 [DELETED] 

>>46719162
>>46719171
>>46719199
>>46719448
See: >>46719126

>> No.46719464 [DELETED] 

>>46719458
See: >>46719162
>>46719171
>>46719199
>>46719448

>> No.46719469 [DELETED] 

>>46719464
See:
>>46719458
>>46719126

>> No.46719473 [DELETED] 

>>46719458
Yuri is more spiritually rotten because it's so clear that the men who play them are self-inserting into them in some part.

>> No.46719477 [DELETED] 

>>46719162
Discord invaders openly praising BL and insulting Moe...
Meidos... where are you...

>> No.46719480 [DELETED] 

>>46719477
Not your safe space, onions moefriend.

>> No.46719486 [DELETED] 

>>46719480
>onions
Back.

>> No.46719499

>>46719448
https://vndb.org/v21269
I liked the writing style in this one. Basically B list horror with black comedy and strong focus on toxic, codependent relationships. The protagonist is pretty good even if he's a loser.

>> No.46719526 [DELETED] 

>>46719477
Every time you loudly complain about discussions you don't like and openly admit to mass reporting, I'm pretty much convinced you're one of the shitposters, friend.

>> No.46719554

>>46719069
>the male protagonist
You are not talking about yurige.
>I do not read games with female protagonists because I am straight and a male
Makes sense for otomege where the MC perspective dates men.
>I cannot empathize with retarded creatures so an all-girls VN is off the table
You are talking about 3DPD femoids. 2D girls are different, retard.
>Might be different if you're female, gay, or can easily relate to that form of unintelligent life.
I'm none of those 3, since 2D girls are not "that form of unintelligent life".

>> No.46719560 [DELETED] 

>>46719157
See >>46719554

>> No.46719567 [DELETED] 

>>46719499
>>46719526
See
>>46719469
>>46719458
>>46719126

>> No.46719678
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>> No.46719698

What are the エロゲスレ-approved manga that I can read on my phone when I have nothing to do outside (reading visual novels is not really an option because I don't want to get a butchered experience).

>> No.46719708

>>46719499
>strong focus on toxic, codependent relationships
That’s so valid. More games should focus on these issues, and on drug use.

>> No.46719745

>>46719708
True, BL games are more mature and deal with more relevant issues. They remind me of real literature, unlike moebuta and yuributa trash.

>> No.46719761

>>46719708
this but between brother and sister, and without any of your slimy irony

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>>46719708
Non-Japanese VN are already focusing on that and teaching us about those important topics. Pic related for example is a based (as in freebase) girl.
>>46719745
So much this. If a game doesn’t focus on nihilism and real world relationship issues like cheating and abuse, etc., is it even serious art? I love games that teach me how nothing matters and how there is no hope.

>> No.46719766

>>46719698
Futari Ecchi

>> No.46719776

>>46719761
True, it’s so enlightening to see how love is actually meaningless and you should be an individual first, only then have a relation to your wife, or rather partner because she is free to choose, of course. Otherwise it’s so toxic and abusive to see people depend on each other, ugh…

>> No.46719781

>>46719745
>B’’””L”””” games
No such thing.

>> No.46719797

>>46719776
would it kill you to say what you actually feel instead of this disingenuous bullshit? for someone who won't shut up about the value of truth and beauty you sure don't seem to want to do any of it yourself

>> No.46719802

>>46719797
>for someone who (...)
This is 4chan, not an e-celeb gossip discord.

>> No.46719810

>>46719802
you'd have to be mentally retarded to not recognize posting styles when they're this obvious

>> No.46719817

>>46719797
Just report and ignore anon. All you can do. There's no fighting mental illness

>> No.46719830

>>46719762
Bro, I admire your enthusiasm to spend so much time shitposting here. I wish I had as much free time too

>> No.46719834

>>46719797
>toxic codependent relationship
It’s a westoid concept that deserves no respect. It only deserves to be mocked and derided because it has no place in soulful art.

>> No.46719853

>>46719834
see, that's better. but i disagree, toxic codependence with your mentally unstable imouto is great and deserves more entries on the subject

>> No.46719879

>>46719853
>overly attached imouto
>westoid “toxic” pseudoscience pseudopsychology lingo
These are not the same.

>> No.46719896

>>46719879
oh it's just the phrase that triggers you, never mind then

>> No.46720006

>>46719797
He has explained it before. The presentation might be "ironic", but the message that he intends to express is not. It's different from westoid(-minded) media/people that are "ironic" and dishonest to the core.

>> No.46720012 [DELETED] 

filters doing work, 140 worthless posts hidden

>> No.46720035

>>46720006
This troglodyte is really calling Westerners dishonest when the whole concept of tatemae/honne exists. Get Japan's dick out of your mouth.

>> No.46720071

>>46720035
Japanese people hide context and are more subtle because of their nature, but Westoids try to deconstruct everything with their behaviour while not truly believing in anything.

>> No.46720087

>>46720035
Why do you think he's being genuine at all? I doubt his intention goes beyond "let's troll the shit out of those pedo tranny weebs".

>> No.46720090

>>46720071
>Japanese people hide context and are more subtle
LMAO

>> No.46720108

>>46720035
Otaku culture =/= Japan, even though it's only present in Japan and nearly absent in the west. We don't defend Japanese "real literature", for example.
Even then, "the whole concept of tatemae/honne" is societal question (which exists in some form in pretty much any society), and it doesn't have to be attached to art or niche interactions, but westoids (non-otaku) still do it.

>> No.46720123

>>46720087
>pedo tranny weebs
Yes, we do not support this. We believe in the values of True Otaku.

>> No.46720143

>>46717258
INO
At least in the "coming soon" (vaporware of the century) room of said museum.

>> No.46720201

>>46720108
>>46720123
This, only Otaku Japan is worth fighting for. We will defend our values no matter what. So-called real literature with its Murakami et al. has already fallen.

>> No.46720288

>>46720090
Japanese people are naturally more subtle/polite because of language, MTL-kun.

>> No.46720326

>>46719797
It's pretty much one deranged EOP botting the same sort of replies. He doesn't even read VNs at all.

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46720340

Was this entire thread seriously derailed by one single autist MTLer? When will you retards learn to ignore the failures? Just don't fucking reply, his seething will eventually burn him out.

>> No.46720371

>>46720340
this? pretty epic. >>46713994

>> No.46720436 [DELETED] 

>>46720340
i don't think so, this guy is really obsessed with this thread and hates anyone who knows japanese
>>/jp/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=jopcuck

>> No.46720756

>>46720340
Be the change you want to see.
"What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished?"

>> No.46720787

>>46713994
>I'm sure that some MTL exists that can correctly translate 「おうちをきいてもわからない なまえをきいてもわからない」, but there are none which will tell you that they are lines from いぬのおまわりさん, which is what's actually crucial to know to understand that text.
This is such a fucking retarded argument. No shot there are none that will tell you where the fuck some random line is from, that's cultural knowledge not linguistic knowledge and obviously not included in language learning or MTL. Either way you need to look it up for it to know where it's from

>> No.46720796

>>46720756
sana

>> No.46720833

>>46720756
I was waiting for a new thread since this one is almost dead but i might as well
Any vns set primarily in an apartment and with just the two characters?
I've been watching this season's one room tenshi tsuki and I got a craving for a more homely atmosphere. I did read shoujou to toshi no sa, anything similar to that would be wonderful

>> No.46720847

>>46720833
Repost it here mister >>46720839

>> No.46720872

Does Fuukan no Grasesta get more complex in terms of combat or party composition later on?
I mean it started out interesting with all the "situational" skills Judar has.
I was excited when you eventually get to recruit more girls into party. But so far the combat flow has turned into
>conserve skill uses for difficult encounters
>dump big aoe on large enemy groups
>dump your strongest shit on the boss
>heal if necessary

Not that I'm in it purely for gameplay, just curious.

>> No.46720904

>>46720872
Does any eroge RPG?

>> No.46721366

sana

>> No.46722040

nasa

*ahem*

JAV!

>> No.46722163

sakana

>> No.46722727

>>46719554
2D girls are retarded most of the time. Authors keep that part in anout them because some people think that's cute for some reason. Read your first VN, fucking fag.

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