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I'm stuck finishing off the takedas. give some tips. I couldn't take the very last place. blocked the blitz but it didn't help at all.

Also alicesoft general.

>> No.6513496

How the hell are you not able to take over the final province if you defeated the blitz?

>> No.6513506

Assassinate everyone.

>> No.6513511

spend 2 action fans preparing the battlefield

>> No.6513562

if you stop the blitz, you got a new event ???? and after in the next turn you got "assasin takeda"

>> No.6513585

>>6513496
how the fuck do i know? no assassinate option appeared. 1st run.

>>6513506
i tried but it usually fails. takeda troops are all knights on the front line. they are about 1500 each baba is 1500 the archer bastard is 1500.

>> No.6513614

>>6513585
If this is your 1st run and it looks like it, why did you bother Takeda before at least going into Uesugi and Houjou provinces? Feeling Ballsy, eh.

>> No.6513618

Oh wow, this is his first run. Enjoy DA rape incoming.

So that's why his invasion pattern is shit.

>> No.6513627
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>>6513618
>>6513614
should i have not attacked takeda?
also i did three brute force attacks on them ended up winning. but my senhime died. RAGE!!!!!

>> No.6513632
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>>6513511
This. For added effect, wait until they attack some other province and prepare for battle again. The cowards way out is getting enough satisfaction and then choosing the "weaken enemy troops" option. The green command to go kommando also sometimes produces an effect that reduces the amount of enemy troops.

The ultra-fetish swimsuit- school clothes musket girl can also come handy, with the +2 action point Working bee item. Couple with a very good defender(s), reload as many times as needed and you'll have a 3 instant KOs coming right up.

>> No.6513638

hmm if are in your first game is hard, conquer takeda normaly, you no are able to try capture yamagata-kousaka and baba but Sanada join in yor trop (the 2 bestTactician)

anyway, if you want try stop the blitz, put a ninja in each group, the generals can die by "assassin" also need good footsoldiers with "defence plus" for resist and no low fast the motivation bar

>> No.6513643

>>6513638
I do not normally "no low fast the motivation bar", because I'm not a huge strategy game fan.

>> No.6513647

>>6513627
Well, the thing with Takeda is that they are the strongest faction in Eastern JAPAN. If you use Rance's basic principle of not fighting against stronger opponents until everything falls in your favor (which I doubt people would actually know unless they played the past games), you should leave them until after you've conquered Mori, Uesugi and Hojo instead. That, and they don't give any real good number of generals in a first run.

And Senhime dying way before you even have Mori Teru, or her just dying period, is pretty crappy.

>> No.6513653

>>6513647
i tried reloading, i still don't have the assassinate option.

>> No.6513664

>>6513653
I suppose since you know about the assassinate option that you read the guides/walkthroughs, right?

You CANNOT assassinate Shingen in the First Game. Because canonically, you never did it in True History. You just brute force blitzed Takeda in the First Game, at least, that's what you're supposed to do.

You can actually defeat Takeda in THREE turns by blitzing their bases if you have three moves per turn and the necessary amount of captains.

>> No.6513671

>>6513643

>I'm not a huge strategy game fan.

I understand but SR need think the strategy, no is send all and hit to die, when you have a good team, and good strategy can stop with 3-4 generals and save 2 for another "party"

>> No.6513674

>>6513664
And if you do blitz them in three turns, the generals will not show up, and it becomes easy to conquer the final castle.

>> No.6513683

>>6513653
You only get it in later playthroughs AND after defeating Takeda via brute force at least once.

I think you just cleared the latter requirement. Did you save? The word on the street is that the game only needs to autosave in a playthrough where you defeat them normally.

>> No.6513686
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6513686

finally. FUCK those guys.

>>6513664
i'm not reading the guides that's cheap. killed them just now, i only know about the assassination cause someone just mentioned it.
also should i be worrying about demon army? cause i don't recall that happening in "in True History".

>> No.6513688

>>6513664

hmm yeah true I forget this, but ninja can make the difference if you can kill another hard cavalry or a foot soldier who protect the takeda general, also Kousaka normaly try assassin or hit the ninja, if you can use assain and Kousaka spend move in the useless ninja help a lot

>> No.6513691

>>6513671
>I understand but SR need think the strategy, no is send all and hit to die, when you have a good team, and good strategy can stop with 3-4 generals and save 2 for another "party"
Once with hundred point defend item one spearman defend against enemy attack they haniwa but idea most important i like your style

>> No.6513693

Takeda are babys compared to Demon Army...

also have Blitz attack x5

>> No.6513696

>>6513686
Yeah, you should be worried about the DA coming because they are what's going to fuck you up soon. With how you've made your conquests, I think you'll be hard pressed to fight them since you lack the good foot soldier that is Mori Teru, Kenshin from Uesugi, and Hojo Souun from Hojo. As well as their assistants.

Did you save the very first turn so you could play it all over again from the beginning? Because once you finish the first game, events kinda change and aren't as normalized as in the first game.

>> No.6513705

>>6513688
the assassinate with ninja doesn't work for me.
i raged so much when my suzume, yuzuhara, and generic commander with snipe ALL missed. The game reduces the odds off success against high HP opponents. the takedas all had 1500+hp.

and wtf is up with this demon army? should i be worried?

>> No.6513709

>>6513696
when do DA start attacking? can't i get the rest of them now? if not, then i'll just reload back when i haven't decalred on takeda.

>> No.6513713

>>6513705
Nope, they are actually supposed to run over you in the beginning. Once the four faggots start dying you're on the winning side.

Too bad about the soul binded and the monsters and the acolytes after that.

>> No.6513716

Demon army is a pain in the ass, obviously possible to control but need think your teams and strategy for defend, defend defend until the story continue

>> No.6513727

>>6513709
The DA starts appearing after you have broken 5 seals. Those things that are in your System Info.

They break corresponding to the houses you defeat or gets beaten. And that's why you have to plan which houses to conquer according to them to maximize which generals to get.

Because once DA appears, they'll start killing off generals from the factions you haven't conquered yet.

>> No.6513729

>>6513709

no rest, go for Kenshin now, with Seneda are more easy, and remember send first to Rance

>> No.6513736

Also, OP, remember to do Dungeons. Without the items from them, you'll be fucked for sure.

>> No.6513738

>>6513709
Takeda is a pretty shit country to conquer anyway. Just one general that can't even hold the line. I don't even conquer them, Tenshi, Texas or Iga as they are a waste of time until after Honnouji happens.

>> No.6513742

>>6513729
Sanada is not that good if you compare him to Souun, Teru and Kenshin.

OP is much better off declaring war against Uesugi and Houjou at the same time, than fighting Takeda.

>> No.6513744

Okay, what the fuck is with the anon who posts like it's been through Babelfish? Type proper English or don't post at all, it's annoying.

>>6513705
You can just sit your ass and hold out a little bit until the game literally hands you over a chunk of territory. Trying to take over their castles will be hard as fuck without good commanders.

>> No.6513745

>>6513729

nvm if you conquer Kenshin breack your 5º seal, try up satisfaction bonus, reforece you group, get monet, etc, yes attack and defend to kenshin but wait conquer the last castle,

>> No.6513750

>>6513744

ok, good luck

>> No.6513762

>>6513745
Yes, Kenshin has a fatal weakness for Rance. If Rance and kenshin take part in the same battle when you are conquering Uesugi, you'll win the battle automatically. Obviously you should scout the enemy forces and if Kenshin is present, send only Rance.

>> No.6513765

back, so i broke all the seals and kou gets raped (i'm guessing that i can't avoid that?).
I'm probably going to get kenshin right now unless DA will be raping me while i try it.

>> No.6513785

>>6513765
You cannot conquer anyone right after Kou gets horrible things done to her. You have to finish the battle at Honnouji.

>> No.6513795

>>6513765
Wait, wtf?! How did you manage to break 5 seals? I can only see Oda, Ashikaga, Iga and Takeda's. You should have been able to conquer at least one more seal house before Kou gets [INSERT RAGE HERE].

>> No.6513805

>>6513795
Mouri conquered Akashi, thus rendering it's gourd free for taking.

>> No.6513808

>>6513795

Akashi House

>> No.6513813

>>6513795
>>6513805
>>6513785
should i have avoided the smaller places with gourds? how much time to i have until demon army? if i should redo, then i suppose i should take some of the other ones right?

>> No.6513828
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6513828

I'm about to start the Ran Route, and I'm thinking of using the Youkai King bonus. What should I mainly focus on to dominate this route?

>> No.6513832

>>6513813
You should have avoided Iga and Takeda until after Honnouji.

Priority invasions are Mouri, Houjou, and Uesugi. To get to Mouri, you have to invade Akashi and Ashikaga, the former because if you don't conquer it, Mori will, and that just fucks you up a little bit more.

In all honesty, I don't even invade Tenshi because they're so weak, I can fight a two front war with Uesugi and Houjou while they occasionally provide some easy fights and exp for my troops.

>> No.6513841

>>6513832
BTW, you can actually reduce Mouri to one castle while having captured all of their maid generals and leave them be. They will be severely weakened if you do this while you concentrate on taking over Houjou and Uesugi at the same time.

Basically a four front war against Mouri, Tenshi, Uesugi and Houjou if you do it well. But then again, that might be a bit much for a beginner.

>> No.6513845

>>6513841
>They will be severely weakened if you do this BEFORE you concentrate on taking over Houjou and Uesugi at the same time.

>> No.6513867

>>6513832
>>6513845
>>6513841
arrggg...i feel gipped, no one from takeda except that strategist guy. iga declared war on me though.

>> No.6513869

>>6513841
I use the trick of arranging things as much as possible before Honnouji happens. After Honnouji I just gulp the remaining nations with gourds before DA rises it's ugly heads. Doesn't work well in higher difficulty levels, though.

>> No.6513874

>>6513867
You probably invaded Tenshi. Iga will not declare war with you in First games unless you destroy Tenshi or until after Honnouji.

>> No.6513892

>>6513869
>>6513874
is it so bad that i have to restart cause i'll just lose for sure or i'll just get low/no score?

also don't want to lose all my generals

>> No.6513895
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>>6513686
>i'm not reading the guides that's cheap.

You understand that in this case /jp/ serves as a guide for you and that's cheap, right?

Here is something for your next run, so you don't come here and go "How do I unlock Kenshin route?" or "How do I fuck Omachi?":
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance

>> No.6513911

>>6513892
You're not supposed to get any score in the First Game.

>> No.6513984

so i'm fighting xavier now. do i have to fight da after beating his ass?

>> No.6513995

>>6513984
Yeah, around 6 to 10 turns after.

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