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Every day /jp/ exists, it is fulfilling Bible prophecy.

How does this make you feel?

>> No.8008519

>lovers of their own selves

I hate myself.

>covetous

True.

>boasters

True

>proud

True

>blasphemers

True

>Disobedient to parents

If I don't wanna get kicked out, I'll listen

>unthankful

True

>unholy

True

...WOW

>> No.8008522

>>8008519

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU QUOTING?!

>> No.8008529

>>8008522
cAN YOU EVEN READ HOLY FUCK.

>> No.8008527
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>>8008513
Doesn't mean anything since Christianity is nothing more than a Jewish cult created to undermine the Roman Empire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Christian#Jewish_origin_of_Christianity

You weren't allowed to be a Christian for the first 150 years unless you were born into a family with Jewish roots.

The bible is nothing more that Jewish lies and propaganda.

>> No.8008535

>>8008519
Until now, I had no idea that II Timothy 3:2 was actually a survey question.

>> No.8008536

>>8008529

what the HELL man stop typing in cruise control

>> No.8008539
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>> No.8008544

Shit like this belongs on >>>/sci/

>> No.8008548

>>8008527

The reason a great portion of humanity follows Catholicism or Christianity is because those two are the most moral of any of the other religions and provides the best explanation as to humankind's purpose and origins. The second aliens come by, teach humanity about what the HELL xD is going on, give humans IMMORTALITY, and teach humans that love, wisdom, and not infringing on another's free will are all you need, well...

>> No.8008553

>>8008548
that is the most informed statement i have ever read here

are you sure you're from /jp/??

>> No.8008568
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8008568

I couldn't care less about the incoherent ramblings of bronze age sand-savages concerning their psychotic war god.

That is to say I'm indifferent.

>> No.8008578

>>8008548
That's no longer true, unless you live in some shithole like the US.

Christianity, and religion altogether, are on their way out in many countries.

In my province for example, 60% of the populace are atheist/agnostic/deist/humanist, and it's been increasing by 10-15% every decade since the 1960s.

Humanity is 5-10 years away from introducing therapies and drugs to double human life-spans to around 150+ years, and it will be the beginning of recursive improvement in life-extension technology--we'll be essentially immortal.

http://www.theage.com.au/technology/sci-tech/drugs-may-let-us-live-to-150-20111016-1lrm5.html

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>>8008527
I just learned something today, something awesome. Now nobody can stop me from disillusion!

>> No.8008582

I just want to say that you guys should try to read the bible, no matter your beliefs on religion.

It's a very interesting, poetic and abstract read. Sometimes it feels like you're reading this really long Tanasinn kopipe.

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>>8008582
Yeah I read it, from front to back three times. Now I read it to put me to sleep.

P.S Its still psychopathic bullcrap.

>> No.8008604

>>8008578
>Humanity is 5-10 years away from introducing therapies and drugs to double human life-spans to around 150+ years

No, that reeks of /sci/-level bullshit, most likely created by journalists misinterpreting and exaggerating scientific papers. Real scientific efforts are always much more conservative and reasonable than that.

>> No.8008607

I think the Bible would of been the definite guide of humanity for morality (and it kind of is), just that the little tiny resurrection part screwed everything up.

>> No.8008615

ITT: Bigotry.

>> No.8008620

>>8008604
Nope. We're pretty much there. Human trials are underway for all sorts of stuff. Regenerative medicine will probably the biggest industry to hit the world over the next couple of decades.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RMx31GnNXY

>> No.8008629

>>8008544
/sci/ goes into theological debate at the drop of a hat, then deny having any interest in it.

It's like they are tsundere for the gods.

>> No.8008646

>>8008578
You mistake dogma and heresy for actual religion.

>> No.8008644
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Why is this thread here why oh why woe woe boohoo WaHH~

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>>8008620
I will maintain a healthy amount of skepticism and assume we are still a couple hundred years behind reaching that point.

I mean, people in the 70s said with a very serious face that we were very close to flying cars by the 90s and sentient machines by 2k. I still keep the "yearly science book" my grandpa used to buy somewhere.

Not trying to rain on your parade, I just don't think it will happen soon.

>> No.8008679

>>8008652
>couple hundred years behind reaching that point.

I'm also incredibly skeptical of a 5-10 year promise for miraculous drugs, but I suspect that a reasonable increase in lifespan might be possible even in this century, but probably through gradual increase in medical capability/availability and other improvements through new knowledge, like proper eating habits and such.

>people in the 70s said with a very serious face that we were very close to flying cars by the 90s and sentient machines by 2k
I don't think anyone ever said that, and even if someone did they were most likely not experts in their fields. People who know their shit are always more careful, reasonable and wise, and generally try to avoid making predictions, especially miraculous ones happening in a short timeframe.

>> No.8008683

>>8008652
Those people were your blue-collar working-class grandparents repeating the garbage they were being told on the evening news show.

Try watching the video I posted. This stuff is actual research, by actual scientists, with actual results.

Also, we're a decade away from having human-level intelligence on large-scale supercomputers, through human-brain simulation to start with. What's required is exascale computing. The Human Brain Project should have their software techniques for cat level brains worked out by 2015, and then it's just a matter of scaling things up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rPH1Abuu9M
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/20/intel-plans-exascale-computing-by-2018-wants-to-make-petaflops/

>> No.8008685

>>8008652

It has been proven that secret government organizations (why not throw in a little /x/ while we're at it?) keep the public around 50-60 years behind of actual technology.

Cars that run on water? We had these back in the 60s. The only reason they're not out is because it would kill the oil cartels. The majority of the reasons we are being held back is for money.

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>>8008652
Prototype. This is a haunting word. It means that the product is not even close to completion, and is only capable of a shadow of what it promises to do.

>>8008679
I guess you weren't around the time.

Robotics used to be hyped real hard from the 80s-90s. As in really, really hyped. Despite considerable funding, researches could only create moderate clumsy robots, which were in no way useful for the tasks the investors had in mind, after the bubble broke, the whole thing went to Hell.

I expect something like this to happen again.

>> No.8008691

>>8008652
You didn't watch the video, he was holding an artificial kidney in his fucking hands.

Technological innovation doesn't occur at a linear rate, it's exponentially increasing. World-wide academia is producing more research each year now than all of the research produced in entire the 20th century.

>> No.8008705

>>8008691
I did watch it. I also watched at the stress in their words that this is a work in progress. Early progress. See >>8008690

>> No.8008712

>>8008691
I called you out on your bullshit the last time you said this and you never responded.

>> No.8008718

>>8008690
Yes, it's a prototype. It's currently in early-stage animal trials. It works, but there are some problems, but they are solvable.

The reason robotics failed was because it was too early. The computing power and power systems just weren't there. The industry has advanced considerably since then. Investors are skeptical, yes, but that doesn't mean it's still centuries away.

>> No.8008724

>>8008685

>It has been proven

Wait, what?

>> No.8008793

>>8008718
>but they are solvable

A lot of thing have a solution. But how long until someone with the insight comes around and solves the problem? Or we are giving the wrong approach?

People like Da Vinci, Tesla and Pasteur are born once every 200 years.

>> No.8008808

>>8008793
I'd say that most problems are solved through long, arduous work by the massive seething mass that is the scientific community. Lone geniuses are seriously overrated.

>> No.8008815

>>8008793
>People like Da Vinci, Tesla and Pasteur are born once every 200 years.
They contributed shit to physics so I give a fuck about them.

>> No.8008817

>>8008690
Fuck yes TED talks.

>> No.8008824

>>8008724
I'm wondering the same thing.

>> No.8008826

>>8008808
Right. Imagine a world where Pasteur preferred to tend to the family business instead of discovering vaccines.

Yeah.
>>8008815
How about Newton then? He did lots of research on his own.

>> No.8008851

>>8008826
Even though pretty much everything he did now goes to the dump, I'll agree on that. There are some cool dudes like Stephen Wolfram which I'm hoping will do more amazing stuff. Also, the pioneers of Quantum mechanics and Solid State physics are far more important than anyone you mentioned.

>> No.8008859

>>8008817
Beware of TED. There's this atmosphere of inexperience to it.

As an example, I was watching a lot of people there discussing various things related to space exploration, things that sound smart. But they're actually all so naive and they don't seem to grasp the actual inner workings of the space industry or even spaceflight itself. There's a HUGE contrast between the stuff on TED and those hour long talks with ~500 views on youtube held by ex-NASA administrators and experienced engineers. It might be good entry-level information, but I don't really take what is said on TED as something representative of whatever they're trying to promote anymore.

>> No.8008871

what the HELL is goin on in this thread

>> No.8008878

>>8008851
That's just how science rolls. One day, the same will happen to Hawkins and his minions. Maybe!

>> No.8008874

>>8008859
I only watch talks related to physics and new technologies though, only to later research if any papers have been published on the matter and such. It just inspiring, if anything, and keeps me motivated on continuing my actual research.

>> No.8008881

>>8008878
Well it hasn't happened to motherfucking Gauss, the only person I consider was a true genius.

>> No.8008893

Eventually, people will realize that all science is wrong and that God is right and they will return to Christianity. Until then, you're all going to hell to burn for eternity.

>> No.8008896

>>8008629
Well /sci IS tsundere for the gods. They are wanna be gods with their knowledge.

>> No.8008900

A mod should come in here and sticky this thread.

The OP's pic is what /jp/ is all about.

>> No.8008901

Seriously. Why isn't this in /lit?

>> No.8008905

>>8008881
We all have our heroes. You consider physics to be important. I consider cell and gene code research to be more important.

And hey, Gauss has barely 80 years since he did his work. The people I am talking about did their research when knowledge wasn't as readily available or even had the tools. They were the precursors, and it is because of them that the basics of science were set.

I shiver at the thought of what would have happened if Darwin's little girl did not die, thus not giving him a depression, and thus not launching him to write about Evolution. Ponder this.

>> No.8008904

>>8008896
>>8008901
is /jp/ really so lazy that it can't type out a second /

>> No.8008908

>>8008893
How can science be wrong? by definition it's the closest thing you can get to modeling a reality. Religion is just a load of random bullshit.

>> No.8008912

>>8008908
Why do you reply seriously to posts that obviously aren't?

>> No.8008924

>>8008905
>I shiver at the thought of what would have happened if Darwin's little girl did not die, thus not giving him a depression, and thus not launching him to write about Evolution. Ponder this.
Universal Darwinism can be found in any surge of a macroscopic system. Chemistry to Biology, Quantum to Classical, etc. I believe a similar selection theory would have been found within the same century at most.

>> No.8008927

this thread is the very definition of autism

>> No.8008931

>>8008912
It's 2am, I can't even reason if someone is joking or not.

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>>8008908
Modeling? No, more like attempting to describe reality and try to harness that perception.

Religion was the mother of philosophy, law, thought and art. Seeing it as the source of all evils is a bit closed minded.

>> No.8008936

>>8008931
11am, where the HELL do you live??

>> No.8008942

>>8008936
US, where do YOU live?

>> No.8008944

>>8008924
Darwin was the only one brave enough to challenge it. The dark ages existed because nobody dared to question the greek masters.

>> No.8008947

>>8008942
in YOUR MOM

>> No.8008949

>>8008944
Given the background, yes, I can agree on that.

>> No.8008950

>>8008944
You mean the Christian masters.

>> No.8008951

>>8008947
holy HELL bro you must be STARVING

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Religion is only good when it's 2D.

>> No.8008960

>>8008944
You mean the Christians. The Greek Dark Age only lasted 400 years, and at the end of it came a period of Greek enlightenment.

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>>8008950
The catholic church became a menace to society and science as whole when it banned any sort f questioning, specially religious dogma, to the point of banning the bible itself, but they were not the source of this stagnation.

People stopped taking baths because they believed what the greek masters wrote, thus the common peasant was a mess of diseases and rot, due to believing human waste to be a natural part of humanity yet nobody wondered if this was wrong.

Try to take off the omg-the-evil-theocracy goggles and see history as a whole.

>> No.8008970

>>8008548
>Catholicism or Christianity is because those two are the most moral of any of the other religions and provides the best explanation as to humankind's purpose and origins.

Do you know why the world hates the US ? Well actually no they just hate anyone that thinks they are the center of the world. I am a Buddhist that borderlines on atheism, but I still know enough to know what you are saying is B U L L S H I T.

Moral my ass. Christianity teaches you to feel guilty about your existence (I don't even know how people accept that shit), hateful towards those that the religion disapproves of, and that hell is for eternity. The Bible itself is filled with gruesome language and calls for violence. Well guess what ? No one is taught to feel guilty in Buddhism. No one should be killed, whether they are witches, pagans or allies of Satan. No hell is for eternity. You're taught to be forever grateful to anyone that does as little as giving you a night's shelter from the rain, never to harm a soul, be it animals or insects... In short, you can NEVER use Buddhism to justify anything like the Crusades or the existence of the terrorist state that is Israel.

I'm sure there are other wonderful religions too. But it's not anything Abrahamic. Frankly, from my point of view, the Bible is for barbarians.

>> No.8008977

>>8008967
Never thought about it that way, not like I had those >omg-the-evil-theocracy goggles
Just never thought about it.

>> No.8008978

>>8008970

I knew one of you faggots was going to bring up Butthism. Don't even get me started...

>> No.8008975

>>8008967
>>8008970
Lovely discussion but thake it elsewhere.

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>>8008970
You just fell for an obvious troll. Did you think he wrote that seriously? Really?

You don't sound very enlightened yourself. Chillax.

>> No.8008989

>W>H>Y >I>S >E>V>E>R>Y>B>O>D>Y >S>O >M>A>D

>> No.8008985

JESUS fuck, stop it with the religion discussion, nobody gives a fuck about it but you. Focus on doing science.

>> No.8008992

>>8008989
Why wouldn't anyone?

>> No.8008995

>>8008967
You're trolling.

>> No.8008998

>>8008989
It's overall quite calm, actually.

It's actually more friendly and reasonable than any thread on /sci/ since its inception.

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Eye think everybody needs to take a chill pill.

>> No.8009000

>>8008999

>999

baka

>> No.8009005

>>8008999
>>8009000
sick trips dudes

>> No.8009009

>>8008995
Am I? There is a reason the La Merde river was called like that. People forgot about hygiene. The only ones who didn't get sick were the jews because of the writings in the Pentateuch. Then they got blamed for being the source of the diseases, supposedly by poisoning the food and water supply of the rest of town.

Yeah, it is quite hilarious.

>> No.8009013

>>8009009
You're not trolling? yes.
Do we get the dark ages were a clusterfuck of shit and confusion? yes.
Do we need to discuss it further? no.

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>>8009013
Ok then.

Have a pleasant night everybody. I'm off to bed.

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