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Did you go to college?

Were you stupid enough to fall into the trap?

>> No.9374717

Does Anzu attend high school?

>> No.9374728

Welfare paid college.
I don't even have to attend, and the state give me a little bit of money every month to pay for my rent.

>> No.9374729

University costs nothing. It's absolutely free. Where's the trap?

>> No.9374734

I had an online class for about a week before dropping it. They wanted me to discuss shit with other people.

>> No.9374740

Why do parents force their children into colleges and then expect them to shoulder the burden of the debt when they inevitably graduate and have to get some job at Walmart because no one else is hiring?

Parents need to take responsibility for their antiquated stupidity.

>> No.9374755

>>9374745

You can't get a job when you get out of the trap either. The only difference is that you're now unemployed with thousands of dollars of debt.

>> No.9374745

Can't get a job if you don't go to into the trap first.

>> No.9374748

I dropped out after one semester.

>> No.9374778

My parents paid for me so there was no trap.

I got 4 years to take it easy, studying maybe a couple hours a day and having the rest of the time completely to myself alone in my room. Now I'm getting a scholarship for another 2 in Japan.

>> No.9374825

I got this strange thing I like to call my "poor folk scholarship". I haven't gone to college but if I go to one in my state before it expires (about two years left on it now) the scholarship will pay all the tuition for either 5 years or until I get a bachelor's degree.

It won't pay any other costs, but it'll at least be significantly cheaper. If I decide to I also have to not break any law or be suspended from the college, or they'll cut it off.

I'm considering it, but I have no idea what I want to do. Or what college. And frankly I really just don't want to go.

>> No.9374816

>>9374755
Guess my only option then is SUICIDE

>> No.9374830

Dropped out after 2 semesters of college. Now I work 40 hours a week with barely above minimum wage. Figure I'd still be making the same amount of money even if I had a degree right now. I know so because my coworkers are college grads. Some with engineering degrees and others in management. Shot's rough.

>> No.9374841
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9374841

Yeah I fell into the trap. Nowadays you need multiple internships to compete since people with 10+ years of experience are willing to take entry level pay jobs.

>> No.9374840

>paying college

>> No.9374843

I sell drugs for a living and I don't even leave the house.

No college and about 1,000 dollars a week. I get large amounts of drugs prescribed to me for various ailments, I give the pills to my brother, he sells them at his college since college students love that adderall, and we split the profits.

>> No.9374849

I thought engineering was the way to go but then absolutely everyone thought that too and now I'm worse off than before I started.

>> No.9374854

>>9374843
Sounds like a nice fucking deal.

>> No.9374864

Get a BS or any science/math related degree and you're set

Any Artsy degree, you reap what you sow, unless you're extremely talented (when 95% of them are not)

>> No.9374865

>>9374825
College is less work than school and you hardly have to interact with anyone.

I don't understand why you guys whine about it so much. It's much better than having to work. You should count yourself lucky if you get paid to go.

>> No.9374874

>>9374864

>Get a BS or any science/math related degree and you're set

is this 1995

>> No.9374885

>>9374874
Are you on drugs?

>> No.9374888
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9374888

I go to college because they give me money and my mom doesn't bug me about a job as long as I'm studying. I have no idea what I'm doing after college, but for now, it's pretty okay I guess.

>> No.9374905

>>9374897
Yes, but have you read Judith Thomson's article in Defense of Abortion?

>> No.9374897

I have a masters in philosophy and now serve as an ethics advisor to a hospital.

tl note: fetuses are people too

>> No.9374911

>>9374897
Suck on my cock, dude.

>> No.9374921

>>9374911
Don't worry I secretly only say so to fuck over normals.

>>9374905
Who?

>> No.9374917

>>9374841

>since people with 10+ years of experience are willing to take entry level pay jobs.

Exactly. There are no jobs, it doesn't matter what degree you get because people are so fucking desperate that someone with years more experience than you will happily take that entry level position because he got canned from wherever he used to work.

You need years of work experience to beat the competition and get a job and you need a job to get work experience. Catch 22. We're a dead generation and there is no hope at all. None whatsoever.

Our parents steal our jobs and we rot away in their basements. That is essentially the image of this entire generation.

>> No.9374923

>>9374864
Are you from India or China?

>> No.9374924

College is literally daycare for adults. Outside campus you're screwed unless you got connections. That's why there's people who remain "fulltime" students.

>> No.9374929

>>9374921
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Defense_of_Abortion

>> No.9374932

Exorbitant university fees are but one thing wrong with the US.
It leads to thinking like OP's, and if anything that country needs more education, not less.

>> No.9374962

>>9374755
Where do you live? America?

>> No.9374973

>>9374924

>connections

Goddammit I hate this word. What ever happened to the days when you could just get a job with some random company that happened to be hiring, do your work, and then go home?

Now it's all "connections" and "social networking" just to get a shitty job that barely gets you by. Fucking bullshit. I know people who practically had to suck dicks just so they could know the right people to get a job working in a goddamn warehouse. You probably have to let someone fuck you in the ass if you want a chance at anything more than minimum wage.

>> No.9374983

>>9374973
Liberals. It's the only way to get anywhere in the art fields, and when they took over, they decided to make us all suffer through what they did.

>> No.9374987

>>9374973
It's always been about connections, fuckwad, don't pretend otherwise

>> No.9374991

>>9374973
I'd connect my dick to your asshole

>> No.9374995

>>9374973
But I've applied to a company through their website form to be an intern, had a 5 minute interview and got the job, then was paid $20 an hour, 40 hours a week to mostly sit around all day in front of a computer.

Getting jobs is easy mode.

>> No.9375031

>>9374987

No it wasn't.

There were always dick sucking careers but then there were the careers that the average man could get. You didn't get paid as much as the guy kissing his boss's ass in the office building, but you could get by comfortably. My father had a job like this for years. He barely knew a soul at the place he worked and he didn't know anyone when he started working there. He had a degree, went to an interview, and that was that. No dick sucking and connections involved.

It's not like that anymore. You have to know the right people just to get the jobs that pay so poorly that people are ashamed to have them.

>> No.9375041

Thank god universities are free around here.

I'm taking a university class this fall - guess the subject.

Japanese language and culture

>> No.9375063
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9375063

Why isn't there online work? I want a job where I can just do some mindless repetitive work for hours and get money. I don't really care what the work is as long as I don't have to go outside or talk to anyone.

>> No.9375061

>>9375031
Your father didn't have global competition
Next thing you're going to tell me is that workers are treated worse now than they were 100 years ago

>> No.9375067

>>9375063
There is but I'm not going to tell you about it.

>> No.9375076

>>9375061
Some places encourage unnecessary social interaction with your coworkers. I'd say that's pretty fucking bad.

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9375084

>>9375067

please

>> No.9375088

>>9375063
Are you willing to work for less than Chinese wages?

>> No.9375089

>>9375063
In Yotsuba, her Dad works as a translator or something, and he seems to do it all in his home. There might really be something like that out there.

>> No.9375099

>>9375088

How low are Chinese wages? I just want to have a chance at surviving when my mother dies and I am all alone.

>> No.9375100

>>9375076
What you deem unnecessary is arbitrary
You're not willing to think outside the box about how mankind has done work, you have this image in your head that is not in tune with reality and you're trying to justify it and you did a fucking awful job.

>> No.9375113

>>9375084
Solve millenium prize problems.

>> No.9375118

Everyone complains and tells me how big of a scam college is but what else am I supposed to do?

I either continue doing nothing and get yelled at or jump into the fire with everyone else and hope for the best. At least then I can get my family off my back.

>> No.9375119

>>9375099
Actually I think their minimum wage has bumped up to around 3 USD/hr

>> No.9375140

>>9375119
I have a theory why they do this. Normals don't enjoy sitting on a computer all day so they try their best to limit it and make it as unrewarding and tedious as possible to keep the status quo.

>> No.9375144

>>9375100

>You're not willing to think outside the box about how mankind has done work

What does that have to do with unnecessary socialization?

This is what work should be: There's a box over there that's filled with some shit. Grab the shit and put it in the other box then pick up the box and put it over there. Do this a lot and then go home.

This is what work is: TEAM BUILDING! TEAM BUILDING! SYNERGY! SYNERGY! NETWORKING! Oh yeah, there's a box over there filled with some shit. Go pick it up and move it over there. ALWAYS REMEMBER TO SMILE

>> No.9375145

Here, public college isn't free, but is pretty cheap; around 150 bucks a semester. It also got medical service and psychological service.

For now, I'm in just because I don't want my family to yell at me. <spoiler>Philosophy major reporting in</spoiler>

>> No.9375147

>>9375144
You're trying to define what "work" is
Doomed to fail from the start

>> No.9375152

>>9375100
But I don't want to go to a "company get together"
I just want to work and get paid. Maybe when I hold a significantly important position, or at least have the possibility to attain such a position, I will consider it.

>> No.9375153

>>9375140
Chinese love internet cafes
Love isn't even a strong enough word to describe how much they adore the internet

>> No.9375166

>>9375147

Allow me to rephrase.

>This is what mindnumbing drone work should be:
>This is what mindnumbing drone work is:

It's not mindnumbing drone work if I have to talk to coworkers about stupid irrelevant garbage. I want to go in and go out and get a paycheck. Why do I need to speak to people to do a task that a slightly retarded gorilla should be able to handle?

>> No.9375175

>>9375153
I'm talking about America silly. Internet outside of facebook is for nerds here.

>> No.9375176

>>9375166
Because speaking can make the task less miserable

>> No.9375187

Can I make a living doing those indian microworker jobs on mechanical turk? Maybe if I do enough of them it will add up.

>> No.9375197

>>9375176
Some people find speaking with others to be miserable. And it's not like moving a box is so awful. Sometimes you have to suck it up and just do what you have to do. But you don't HAVE to talk to people.

>> No.9375196

>>9375187
It won't. You might spend 30 minutes on a task and make 10 cents at the most. You'd be lucky to make more than a couple bucks in a day.

>> No.9375200

>>9375176

>Because speaking can make the task less miserable

Then it should be optional for whatever idiotic social butterfly thought it was a good idea to work in a warehouse of all places. Instead it's some forced activity where you have to make small talk and get to know all of these people when I just want the paycheck so I come back here and get out of that nightmare.

>> No.9375207

I'll start my third year this fall, in biology and stuff. And I like it very much actually.

>> No.9375208
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9375208

Why? I added a picture like 5 times now and the first time was months ago. Why doesn't he take it?

>> No.9375209

WTF guys? do you really want to do those soulless manual jobs? at least try to do something that you enjoy, not necessarily involving social interaction, like programming.

>> No.9375231

Mind numbing drone work is better than mindnumbing but supertechnical work.

I have some sort of freelance project like that I have to do now. I literally can't do it because I can't muster the level of concentration it requires. If it were menial I could force myself to do it, but I can't force myself to do this. I think I'm going to get back to them and say I think I'm not suited for it. Just going to enjoy my summer instead.

>> No.9375234

Start a Kickstarter to raise money for someone who is being bullied in a viral video and then keep the money.

>> No.9375247

>>9375209
Why would I enjoy programming?

>> No.9375254

>>9375209
My skill set gets me shafted into mathematical/programming jobs but I want nothing more than a fun career where I don't have to use my brain. Like being a gravure model.

Mental stimulation is overrated.

>> No.9375252

>>9375209
I enjoy programming because it's a fun hobby and I'm not being pressured by deadlines. If I mess something up, there's no big deal. Not the case when you do it for a living. Also, programming jobs do require socialization.

>> No.9375276

>college
>trap

This thread reeks of Americans.

>> No.9375299

>>9375209

There is no such thing as an enjoyable job. Every job has stress and requires you to do things by a certain time and it requires you to do projects that you don't actually want to do. Even artists, the lucky few who actually get a job, are forced to draw out designs for things that they don't care about at all and most of them end up despising art because it sucks all of the joy out of it.

If I have to work then I would like it to be a job that is so mindless that I can just turn my brain off for a bit or maybe explore my imagination while I lift boxes. If the job requires actual thought then I can't do this and I'm forced to focus on how fucking awful it is and contemplate why people don't just commit suicide in massive droves as soon as they have to start working.

>> No.9375303

>>9375234

Did you see how much that old woman made who was being bullied on the bus? I find that ridiculously.

>> No.9375309

>>9375303

*ridiculously stupid.

>> No.9375310

>>9375303
Wasn't she also against getting money too?

>> No.9375318

Yes I want to college, but I didn't exactly fall into a trap. I wanted to be a game designer, but then I realized I was too stupid and lazy to commit myself to learn programming.

So I settled with being a highway patrol officer. The pay is good, and it's always in high demand so anyone can apply.

>> No.9375320

The only people I can think of who would describe institutions of higher learning as "trap" are losers who dropped out of high school and students who chose worthless degrees.

>> No.9375326

>Did you go to college?

Yes...11 years ago.

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9375327

I'm 29k in debt

I'll never be able to take it easy in this lifetime.

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