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11391795 No.11391795 [Reply] [Original]

Friendly reminder the people over Carpe Fulgur are a bunch of 2D hating goons.

>> No.11391806

I'm buying SC anyway.

>> No.11391809

I want a hag Recette.

>> No.11391810

I don't know what Carpe Fulgur is.

>> No.11391813

>>11391810
https://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S10724034

>> No.11391815

Carpe Fulgur are helping bring Trails in the Sky to Steam.

>> No.11391817

>>11391810
you're missing a lot. Recettear and Fortune Summoners are fun games.

Don't bother with Chantelise though.

>> No.11391823

>>11391813
"We respect both the source material we work from and our audiences."
'Fuck this evil pedo shit, we're censoring it. Fuck you, creepy weebs'
lol

>>11391817
Thanks, will pirate.

>> No.11391850

They're going to ruin SC
Get ready for all your favorite SA meems

>> No.11391864

It would be way easier to create a list of official localizations that respect the source material than ones that disrespect the source material. Even most companies that people seem to think do okay are actually shit since they intentionally leave out lines they don't like from the translation or change them to reflect their own moral beliefs. That's what happens when it's all run by unprofessional self-righteous normals.

>> No.11391872

Wow, thanks for bringing this to my attention /jp/. I never played any of their translations, but I'd seen screenshots thanks to the viral marketing on 4chan and thought that they looked clever and well done. I think I may have even told a few people I know that they seem like a decent translation group, and that it's cool to see someone doing larger scale releases for smaller doujin games. I guess I somehow managed to miss this discussion back when it originally happened, and never realized they were such shitlords.

I'm really glad I never bought any of their stuff, and I'll make sure never to pay any money to any place that might benefit them, and tell everyone I know not to do so either.

>> No.11391874

I hate goons /jp/. I hate them so much. The big trend these days is to post caps from Reddit and Tumblr so we can all be like "Wow look at these insufferable assholes I'm glad we're not like them," but those capped posts are usually made by fat teenage Dr. Who fangirls and the like. Goons are grown men who act the same way: like a bunch of big jerks.

>> No.11391879

>>11391874
We all hate goons.

>> No.11391882
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>>11391874
I don't give a shit about Reddit, Tumblr or other boards, but goons really do disgust me. I don't think I'll ever be able to touch Dangan Ronpa due to the fact that all I can associate it with now is them. Hopefully I'm not missing out.

>> No.11391883

>>11391882
I played Dangan Ronpa untranslated. It was fun, and I think you are missing out a little. Unfortunately good things often have shit fans.

>> No.11391885

Is it a given that all goons hate lolicon, or are there some of them who are more rational?

>> No.11391894

>>11391885
>goons
>rational
>who am i quoting

>> No.11392046

>>11391882
Why do they love the word "creepy" so much.
I swear each time I dare to open a thread on LP I see this word written a bunch.

>> No.11392056

>>11391874
>Wow look at these insufferable assholes I'm glad we're not like them
...is pretty much what you're saying with that post.

>>11391894
>>11391885
>>11391883
>>11391882
Generalization and hating on something because of its fanbase. Do I need to remind you guys that 4chan consists entirely of 12 year olds who like MLP (totally no exception no sir)?

I don't like SA either, but please, don't stoop to that level. It makes you no better than the people you criticize.

>> No.11392069

everyone hates goons, especially goons.

the people that trip over themselves and each other screaming about how creepy they find x thing are probably the big anime fans though

>> No.11392073

>>11392056
So, you're from SA? Time to burn, heretic! I bet you fuck children IRL while preaching how wrong and sick fapping to loli is on their boards.

>> No.11392075

>>11392056
>not generalizing SA fags
If there's an actual hivemind on the internet, that'd be SA.
They all wallow in their own self proclaimed moral high ground, and dare you say something that goes against the holy mods morality you'll be publicly shamed before finally getting banned.

>> No.11392079

>>11391885
>>11392046

probably the ones you think hate it the most are the ones who like it in truth.

Kind of a doth protest too much kind of thing

>> No.11392090

I liked how zorak banned oreimo for arbitrary reasons, then he was so proud of himself when the ending aired.
Goons are bad, but the real reason why SA is so shit is the fucking mods.

>> No.11392099

>>11392090
Shitty moderation breeds a shitty community.
4chan itself is a good example.

>> No.11392102

>>11392099
At least on 4chan people call out to the stupid shit mods do, even /a/ was on an uproar when that mod was deleting sfw loli stuff.
Goons suck the mods cocks like it's the most delicious thing, ask for more and attack anyone who doesn't do like them.

>> No.11392137

Ben Bateman ‏@benspants

Watching a Japanese trailer, I hear the word "gakuen." Involuntarily, my hand curls into a fist.
Retweeted by Andrew Dice

Retweet by the Carpe Fulgur founder.

>> No.11392160

The FS threads we had before CF were some of the best doujinsoft threads in /jp/

Rest in peace

>> No.11392170

>>11392079
It's like a forum that entirely consists of tsundere.

>> No.11392179

So I am reading their blog and
>we can also say that Recettear has now sold three hundred thousand copies since its launch nearly three years ago to the day

300k copies. Impressive.

>> No.11392215

>>11392179
It's more insulting than impressive. I don't think the original sold anywhere near that much.

>> No.11392218

>>11392137

what the fuck

>> No.11392230

>>11392218
http://twitter.com/SpaceDrakeCF

>> No.11392242

>>11392218
He doesn't even like Japanese media unless it's "hip" to "like" just like every other Goon and Tumblrite who claims to be an "Otaku".

I'm considering sending him & Xseed a tweet, notifying them that I'll be buying the JP release and refuse to support the poor localisation efforts of an opinionated and ignorant goon.

>> No.11392252

>>11392242
You'll be doing god's work, anon.

It might be best to send something to Xseed only, however.

>> No.11392271

>>11392242
Maybe he just hates school drama.

>> No.11392281

>>11392215
The original one sold extremely poorly compared to that. I forgot the exact amount but you can find it by searching the archive.

There's a demand for cute and cheap Japanese games and nowhere near enough of them being released in the West through easily accessible means like Steam. Sadly, these goons were among the first to notice that.

>> No.11392282

>>11392215
Probably at least half of the sales came from ADD ridden kids on steam who buy stuff because it's on sale and then never play it.

>> No.11392285

>>11392281
I wish it could have been a group who actually deserved it, like Aeon Genesis.

>> No.11392287

>>11392252
I'm trying to word it is as eloquently as possible but Twitter's character limit is ridiculously small.

>>11392271
I doubt it. The fucker was tweeting about how much he loves Aku no Hana not long back when it was a fad for westerners to like it.

>> No.11392293
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Why didn't goons bowdlerize the sexism in their Policenauts translation? Or is this "artistic" sexism?

>> No.11392295

>>11392285
Aeon Genesis aren't a commercial group, they can't get a single sale no matter how many people download their translations.

>> No.11392296

>>11392293
Wasn't it a bit before the SRS fad?

>> No.11392299

>>11391795
Why do people even care so much about who localizes a doujin game they played for free when they pirated it 3 years before the localizers even heard of it?

>> No.11392300

>>11392293
That was before the forum was completely taken over by the SJWs. Back when they were only a small board that all the sane members ignored.

>> No.11392302

>>11392296
It was a while ago, yeah. Also I think it was a separate group but their activity started to dwindle, so Slowbeef took over. A lot of his earlier stuff is pretty crude and offensive (check his website on archive.org). I'm sure he'd apologize now and say, "Oh, I was young back then!" (because being 26 makes it OK).

I would honestly prefer it if Something Awful devolved into "le ironic epic may-mays xD" type posting rather than this politically correct bullshit. It's not like people are making huge social statements or ruining thousands of lives with an anime computer game or some posts on a message board.

>> No.11392306

>Andrew Dice – The realistic expectation was that we’d sell something on the order of ten thousand copies in six months, and that was toward the “optimistic” end of the scale. We had a lot of reasons for suspecting this kind of number: we were a brand new company nobody had ever heard of, thus there was no pre-existing confidence in us, our product didn’t have any real promotional material beforehand, it was Japanese and therefore Weird in the minds of potential customers (and yes, Japanese games do often struggle in the Western market on principle a bit these days), and relatedly, the smallish group of people who follow indie games from Japan already are notorious for engaging in piracy (because there was no real way to get content otherwise), and the game had been out for a few years already. We anticipated a “piracy rate” of between 95% and 98%. Most non-online PC games have a piracy rate somewhere between 50% and 80%.

>This might seem pretty pessimistic, but we knew from experience and watching the industry that this would be a hard road to hoe; there’s a reason both Robin and I were looking for “established” jobs before trying this as a last resort.

Sad.

>> No.11392309

>>11392295
But it would be nice if a Japanese company offered them a commercial deal. I know they mostly do ROM hacking on older games, but they've done a few recent ones too.
Maybe Pixel could have arranged Cave Story+ with them instead of Nicalis, I don't know. I guess Nicalis just had money and skilled employees already.

Has Gideon Zhi ever done commercial work? He seems like a pretty competent translator, better than a lot of professional translators I've seen.

>> No.11392311

>>11392306
>Sad.
Yes, it really is sad when worthless hacks like Carpe Fulgur manage to succeed in where decent teams have failed.

>> No.11392314

I don't really follow SA bullshit, but is lowtax the reason why that website has devolved into such a state? Or is it the mods or users themselves?

>> No.11392318

>>11392302
>I would honestly prefer it if Something Awful devolved into "le ironic epic may-mays xD"

They're both utter shit posting.

>> No.11392324

>>11392309
He has some sort of egotrip, though.

Nicalis is decent, it just needs to release Yatagarasu on PC instead of only the Vita.

>> No.11392322

>>11392309
>Gideon Zhi
I wonder if getting paid would make him actually do something.

>> No.11392328

>>11392314
Lowtax doesn't like anime and it has sort of trickled down, so the general consensus is that anime is creepy and ADTRW is the worst board, blah blah blah.

Lowtax doesn't seem like such a bad guy and I like his sense of humour, but I hate that people adopt a site admin's opinions like this. I doubt any of the people who complain about anime (including stuff like lolicon) cared before they started visiting SA, and I bet they've all played and enjoyed anime-style games.

>> No.11392331

>>11391813
>https://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S10724034

Holy shit; that sounds like a whole lotta denial.

>> No.11392332

>>11392306
>there’s a reason both Robin and I were looking for “established” jobs before trying this as a last resort.
They don't even care about the doujinsoft they translate. Disgusting.

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>>11392324
>Nicalis is decent

>> No.11392338
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http://www.softegg.com/products/pm2/pm2.php

Read this, it's a good story. It was pretty much the opposite of what happened with Carpe Fulgur. They struggled to get a good game released in the US, and they left the child nudity intact.

>> No.11392337

>>11392314
It was mostly the mods and their followers.
Lowtax has shitty opinions but he doesn't really do anything anymore; it's the idiot mods he hired (like Y Kant Ozma for example) that are mostly responsible for the direction SA has gone in.

>> No.11392339

>>11392328
I see, well I don't blame him for not liking anime, isn't he like 45 or something?
Seems to me that he doesn't shit nearly as much on his own creation as moot, or at least not actively.
I guess the big problem with SA is the hivemind mentality they have over being the most moraly superior person possible.

>>11392337
>It was mostly the mods and their followers.
Yeah that's what pretty much what I was guessing, thanks for the clarification.

>> No.11392341

>>11392338
Times have changed since then.

>> No.11392348

>>11392341
Yeah, 2D child nudity is actually a crime nowadays.

>> No.11392354

>>11392348
You know something is wrong with a society when masturbating to drawings can get you jailed.

>> No.11392358

>>11392354
I sometimes wonder about the sanity of the people behind those laws.

>> No.11392361

>>11392354
I at least wish it would expand to other niche fetishes like furries and vore.

Sadly, Shitting Dick Nipples will never be illegal. Unless you point out Dizzy is a 3 year old.

>> No.11392363

>>11392358
Old people from the babby boom generation tend to be less than sane yes.

>> No.11392366
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>>11392348
Depends how old it is.

This is art.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/Virgin_Killer.jpg
THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT ART, HIGHLY NSFW AND ILLEGAL, DO NOT CLICK.

>> No.11392368

>>11392354
>Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else; hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights. These limits can only be determined by law.

This was written in 1789 in a certain country. Yet that country recently made it illegal.

>> No.11392375

>>11392366
>THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT ART, HIGHLY NSFW AND ILLEGAL, DO NOT CLICK.
Incidentally it used to also be an instapermaban from 4chan. I don't know if it's changed or not.

>> No.11392399

>>11392368
I like seeing people shoehorn ridiculous crimes under the "injures someone else" banner, though.

Do you know that if you masturbate to a photograph of a child and that child never finds out, you are committing child abuse? Even if the child is from the 1970s, 2,000 miles away, or dead.

>> No.11392400

>>11392366
If you can't tell the difference between art and pedopornography you're a monkey

>> No.11392408

>>11392400
If you can't tell the difference between fiction and reality then you have no place in society.

>> No.11392410

>>11392400
I honestly can't. I'm not one of those "ART IS QUITE USELESS xDDD" nerds, but I don't get the difference between a painting of a young girl lying nude and a photograph of a young girl sitting nude.

>> No.11392421

>>11392410
>ironic xDDD
Stop that if you're any year older than 19.

>> No.11392427

>>11392410
>I don't get the difference between a painting of a young girl lying nude and a photograph of a young girl sitting nude.

Why would you photograph a nude girl unless you're a pedo? Now try to paint a realistic little girl. You need years of hard work to be able to do that and what pushes you to keep working hard is something else that being a pedo. That doesn't mean artists can't be pedo too, but if you can't tell the difference beetwen taking photos to fap later and making a work of art you're a monkey. "Rustle" is not an artist btw

>> No.11392429

>>11392421
Sorry, I need to overdo things to belittle other people. Hopefully you know what I mean.

>>11392427
Photography is art.

>> No.11392435

>>11392429
He's trolling judging by the last part of his post.

>> No.11392436

>>11392429
Photography =! taking lewd pics of children

>> No.11392437

>>11392427
What if I fapped to actual art when I was younger? Uh?

>> No.11392438

>>11392436
Nude isn't lewd, porn is.

>> No.11392447

>>11392437
Uh? Good for you

>>11392438
Agreed. Nude can be porn too

>> No.11392526

>>11392056
SA is full of normalfags though. Try admitting in their forums that you're a virgin, have poor hygiene, or that you refuse to work, people will be horrified (or pretend to be) and you might even get banned. Here people will just laugh.

>> No.11392533

>>11392526
>Here people will just laugh
you get BULLIED if you don't do those things here!!

>> No.11392538

>>11392526
Somewhere along the line SA switched from actual neckbeards to "cool" nerdy faux-hawks and women pretending to be neckbeards. Basically the only part of the site with any element of the original humor is FYAD, and even that's filtered under multiple layers of ironic shitposts.

>> No.11392577

>>11391823
id like to draw your attention to the word "localize" instead of "translate"

The idea is to make it safe for american markets.

>> No.11392590

Why don't you just buy the Japanese version?

>> No.11392769

>>11392590
???????

>> No.11392777

The only reason I hate Carpe Fulgur is because they are viraling fucks who spammed their shit in /jp/.

>> No.11392781

>>11392577
Thanks to those towels, the game is properly localized.

>> No.11392784

>>11391882
Just play DR, the psp emulator is solid enough for it.
Just ignore the goons. I find them hilarious - they undermine Zetsubou's translation work as if it's shit. Not saying that the SA dude that does the LPs isn't doing it well, but making screenshots and videos is nothing compared to the amount of work PZ did.

So just ignore them, stay away from spoilers, and play.

As for Carpe Fulgur, fuck 'em. I'm okay if they want to add an easily patchable censored CG, but the way they reacted and became obsessed with censoring any kind of discussion that doesn't partake to their interest (i.e. CF cocksucking) is ridiculous.

>> No.11392798

>>11392784
Who's PZ?

>> No.11392813

>>11392798
Project Zetsubou, the group that translated the psp game.

>> No.11392820

Let me get this straight, people buy video games that they don't physically get to own,are locked to one account, and you have to be online to play?

>> No.11392821

>>11392820
Some people are online all the time and don't really care since then only plan to get forty hours of entertainment out of it anyway.

>> No.11392841

>>11392287
tweet in japanese to save characters

>> No.11392850

>>11392099
Yeah but what's so great about the SA community?

>> No.11392860

>>11392850
Everyone knows if you have to pay its better.

>> No.11392872

>>11392850
+: keeps out literal children and fucking awful posters can actually be banned
-: mods and community are both shit

>> No.11392876

Lowtax got to do a Let's Play with Michael J. Nelson and that pisses me the HELL off.

At least it wasn't Joel. Joel was the best MST3K.

>> No.11392886

>>11392872
But you just get banned for being yourself anyway, regardless of content, and lose $10 in the process. So what difference does it make?

>> No.11392890

>>11392886
At least everyone else's posts are high quality for when you lurk.

Oh, they're too scared to say anything interesting.

...but at least I paid money, so I can tell myself it's better (?)

>> No.11392892

>>11392886
The difference is that LowTax now has your money.

If you want to post on SA you have to pretend to be someone who you aren't. This offends some people but others are used to it.

>> No.11392894

I love articulated figures and collectibles so when I first signed up for SA I looked everywhere for a toy board but couldn't find one, what gives? The only thing I found was a Lego and RC thread in that DIY board.

I wanted to get away from /toy/ and /a/ so badly.

>> No.11392895

I always love on SA when there's some long conversation about paedos or whatever and then some guy with a 2001 reg date says something like, "Who gives a fuck?" and not even the mods will ban him because they're 2006 weenies with 3" dicks.

>> No.11392910

>>11392892
>If you want to post on SA you have to pretend to be someone who you aren't
What's hilarious is that goons acknowledge this, saying there are other websites to discuss your own "creepy shit".
I really don't get what's so good about posting on SA, I have a rather recent reg date there because I wanted to watch their LPs, I posted like 2 or 3 times and always got ignored.

>> No.11392918

>>11392910
>What's hilarious is that goons acknowledge this.
It's not even hilarious, it's just how it is. /jp/ is like this, too. Certain topics are off-limits.

>I really don't get what's so good about posting on SA
It's a forum where you can talk to people about things. If nobody responded to your posts, maybe they weren't interesting.

>> No.11392922

>>11392918
*It's a forum where you can talk to people about things that they agree are morally acceptable, otherwise prepare for public shaming and bans.

>> No.11392930

>>11392918
No one responds because you don't have the right year joined.

>> No.11392926

>>11392918
What topics are off limits, being a girl?

>> No.11392935

>>11392918
>Certain topics are off-limits
Like what? The only times I can think of that /jp/ gets mean with people is when they are being legit idiots, you won't see someone get called "creepy" here unless people are shitposting.

>> No.11392933

>>11392926
No. If you're a transgender they'll all leap to your defense.

>> No.11392934

>>11392922
/jp/ finds having sex with more than one person morally unacceptable and will shame you for it. (You'll also be banned for posting off-topic, but that's another can of worms). You go to their website, you abide by their taboo list or you get banned. That's just how it is.

Also, I've never posted on SA.

>> No.11392937

I miss Laissez's Fair and the old FYAD

I have fond memories of the Serbia LP and lines like "confused by buildings more than two stories high and enraged by demands that they bathe before they visit bordellos, Serbian officers on leave in New Orleans chimp out and riot for two straight weeks"

Also get out

>> No.11392942

>>11392934
And you won't lose fucking 10bucks, nor will they fucking call your family to say you sniffed your sister panties like they did with that one /jp/er.

>> No.11392948

>>11392934
You some kinda slut or something?

>> No.11392944

>>11392934
Yes, blogging is unacceptable. Yes, off topic is unacceptable. Are you retarded?
Why would anyone want to talk about that one the otaku culture board?

>> No.11392952

>>11392935
- having friends
- being employed
- attending university
- being female
- going to conventions
- ever having had a girlfriend
- enjoying shitty otome games
- actually liking littleshrimp

>>11392942
I've never lost ten bucks because I'm not stupid enough to give them ten bucks.

>>11392944
>Why would anyone want to talk about that one the otaku culture board?
I don't know why you want to talk about incest VN with SA either, but there are all kinds of people in the world.

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New /jp/ user here, why do most people here sage?

>> No.11392950

>>11392934
Off topic is never OK of course.
But now, is talking about oreimo on an anime board OK? Well Zorak says otherwise as it hurts his feelings.

>> No.11392961

>>11392955

/jp/ is slow so it doesn't really matter.

>> No.11392959

>>11392955
Hey there qt, wanna fug?

>> No.11392967

>>11392952
Stop being a normalfag then.

>> No.11392964

>>11392955
Sage things are sage.

>> No.11392965 [DELETED] 

>>11392935
- having friends
- being employed
- attending university
- ever having had a girlfriend
- going to conventions
- enjoying dubstep
- enjoying shitty otome games
- being otacool
- playing mainstream video games
- liking littleshrimp
- being female

>>11392942
I've never lost ten bucks because I'm not stupid enough to give them ten bucks, or for that matter, tell them that I sniff my sister's panties.

>>11392944
I don't know why you want to talk about incest VN with SA, but there are all kinds of people in the world.

>> No.11392969

>>11392967
You asked for a list, I gave you one. If you were going to get your panties in a twist over it you shouldn't have asked.

>> No.11392972

>>11392955
Self-hatred.

>> No.11392973

>>11392969
So you're complaining that non otaku related things aren't allowed on the otaku board? You really are stupid.

>> No.11392975

>>11392973
I'm not complaining, dude. You asked me for a list of X, I gave you a list of X. Conventions, Touhou cosplay, and littleshrimp are all strictly speaking on-topic in /jp/ anyway.

>> No.11392979

>>11392952
The big difference is that /jp/ doesn't try to have the moral highground to make them feel better.
Yes they'll call you a normie, but who cares and you're anonymous anyways.
Forums as a whole are flawed because you can't talk about anything freely, but SA takes that to a whole new level.
Whatever /jp/ does when someone breaks the rules is nothing compared to what they do on SA.

>> No.11392980

>>11391882
Goons are always subhuman but sometimes they produce something worth stealing.

>> No.11392987

>>11392979
I take the moral high ground to feel better.

Those faggots who think getting off to children is evil are the wrong ones. I'm right and I'm better than them, at least morally speaking.

Is there anyone who doesn't think this? Why would you even have morals if you didn't think they were better than everyone else's?

>> No.11392993

>>11392987
I don't, I think rape is bad for example but pedophilia in itself isn't a crime so I don't blame them.
If there was ever a consensual relationship between an adult and a child I also wouldn't care.

You probably shouldn't let your emotions take the better of you.

>> No.11393005 [DELETED] 

>>11392987
What's evil about getting off to drawings and recorded data? If you're going to act like you're on the high-ground then at least make sure that you actually are.

>> No.11393010

>>11393005
Oh shit, disregard that, I suck cocks.

>> No.11393016

>>11392993
>I think rape is bad
How bad, exactly? You're not one of those guys who thinks that rape is worse than being disabled, tortured, or killed are you?

>> No.11393020

>>11392975
Cosplay goes to the cosplay board.

>> No.11393023

>>11393016
Non consensual is bad, just that.
Though I do believe some women enjoy it secretly.

It's just that hurting other physically is not a good thing, whatever the method.

>> No.11393027

>>11393016
Rape is a great tool for warfare.

>> No.11393028

>>11393016
Only if its kid.

>> No.11393035

>>11393020
Touhou goes to the Touhou board. Also otome games and BL doujin could be discussed in /jp/, and it would be on-topic, but nobody does that because it's totally homosexual.

>>11393027
So are a lot of things that are widely frowned upon.

>> No.11393037

>>11393035
Show me your clitoris.

>> No.11393038

>>11393035
They could also be discussed on the yaoi board. This is a work sage board.

>> No.11393046

>>11393037
/jp/ is a work safe board.

>>11393038
Yes, but it would not be against the rules to discuss them in /jp/, and I don't think /y/ does otome anyway.

>> No.11393048
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Daily reminder that discussing pure daughters on the Carpe Fulgur forum is grounds for being banned.

>> No.11393051

>>11393046
Please calm down, your fujoshi is showing. Make a thread about your BL if you want, it's not our fault no one wants to discuss it.

>> No.11393054

>>11393048
I feel that editing an artist's work is a great insult.
I couldn't do this and feel proud.

>> No.11393059

If you were a rock would you be an Igneous, Sedimentary, or Metamorphic rock?

>> No.11393063

>>11393059
Metamorphic. I always thought they were cool and reminded me of Pokemon.

>> No.11393066

>>11393016
>rape is worse than being disabled, tortured, or killed
He didn't say anything like that you fucking moron. Doesn't mean it still isn't bad.

>> No.11393068

>>11393054
It's not just the art they've changed, they've also changed the writing to artificially make it cuter.

They fucking translated "Yatta" as Yayifications for fuck sake.

>> No.11393070

>>11393051
>Please calm down, your fujoshi is showing.
I've been calm this whole thread. You're the one who has been throwing a smorgasbord of random accusations at me.

>Make a thread about your BL if you want, it's not our fault no one wants to discuss it.
Follow the conversation up to the point where it was first mentioned and you'll see why I mentioned BL in the first place. It's not because I personally give a shit.

>> No.11393073

>>11393068
How would you translate it?

>> No.11393072

>>11393068
That's worse than when they force cat puns when all the character does is end it's sentence with ~nya.

>> No.11393078

>>11393073
Not him, but direct translations are always better than shitty "localizations".

>> No.11393076

>>11393070
I haven't been doing anything. Please do let go of those straws.

>> No.11393083

>>11393073
"Whoomp, there it is!"

>> No.11393087

>>11393068
Oh man, I remember the uproar from Recettear.
The fact that the janitors even joined in was absurd.

>> No.11393088

>>11393076
Maybe the others weren't you, but it's not a strawman if you did that in exactly the post I replied to.

>> No.11393090

>>11393073
Yay!
We did!
Alright!
Alrighty!

>> No.11393091

>>11393073
"Fuck yeah!"

>> No.11393101

>>11393088
Shh, that's enough for now.

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>>11393073
Localise it, but not to the point of flat out making shit up. So "Yeah!", "Alright!", "Hurrah!" would work for Yatta.

>> No.11393104

I wonder if zorak would ban my gay ass for making a figure/merch thread.

>> No.11393106

If only YCS was still around. Best forum of all time.

>> No.11393108

>>11393104
>I wonder if zorak would ban my gay ass
>zorak
>ban
Now that'd be unheard of.
Of course he would, fucking creeplord.

>> No.11393113

What was that site with the big dog pre-meme memes? It wasn't SA.

>> No.11393119

>>11393104
>2007
>Posting on the grey forums.

>> No.11393153

>>11393106
badgame dude

>> No.11393173

>>11393113
It was SA.

http://www.somethingawful.com/comedy-goldmine/big-dogs-shirts/

>> No.11393207

>>11393106
danbo daxter made an offsite. badgame.net bitch.

>> No.11393233

>>11393173
It was a free to post site.

>> No.11393235

>>11393233
Read the thread. SA did it first, your site copied.

Don't worry about it. All shitty free Invision Boards copy SA, 4chan, Fark, etc. It's just how the internet works.

>> No.11393242

>>11393235
I know it started on SA, retard.

>> No.11393298

What's the appeal of making fun of people?

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>>11393054
>I feel that editing an artist's work is a great insult.
This is their official say on the matter. Doesn't make the actual censorship any more acceptable though.

>> No.11393336

>>11393327
Why would someone that's not familiar with Japanese culture be playing a game like this in the first place?

>> No.11393349

>>11393336
I wouldn't be surprised if someone who had never played or even seen the game would make an uproar about simulated child pornography just because they heard there was a loli nip slip, so I can sort of understand their move.

Then again, there was absolutely nothing to hide in the original picture, which is what makes the whole case so ridiculous.

>> No.11393377

>>11393327
Japanese developers just agree on anything when it comes to localizations so long as potential controversy is mentioned. Their "full support" is basically "We don't want to get in trouble, so do whatever you want." Japanese developers usually don't give a shit what's done to their work outside of Japan anyway though. If they did they wouldn't always let people take the kinds of retarded liberties they do.

>> No.11393389

I'm so sick of translators and their bullshit, why do they even have the job they have?

>> No.11393407

>>11393389
Because translating things in a way that appeals to normies and redditors and the like makes more money.

>> No.11393411

>>11393389
Because they are shit people who don't get any other job than scamming japanese developers.

>> No.11393419

>>11393377
It's more of a "if it will make us more money" thing.

>> No.11393424

>>11393377
>Japanese developers usually don't give a shit what's done to their work outside of Japan anyway though.

Not developers, but the Toho film studio hates their Western fanbase because their films are advertised as jokes in the West. They do care to an extent, but the money.

>> No.11393437

>>11393424
The Godzilla movies? You really expect me to believe the Japanese take them seriously?

>> No.11393440

>>11393327
>making the towels more obvious
Is he trying to say that the original included towels? Because if so he's either lying out of his ass or there's something seriously wrong with my eyes.

>> No.11393446

>>11393437
I thought only the first one was serious.

>> No.11393445

>>11393424
Shut the fuck up it's a guy in a rubber suit.

That's like saying the West still takes THE GIANT INVADERS FROM OUTER-SPACE!! seriously. The difference is that we realized how campy and silly that was, whereas the Japs kept making those movies for over 50 years.

>> No.11393449

>>11393440
In Japanese culture, isn't it bad manners to take your towel into the bath? Or at least according to that one guide someone posted.

>> No.11393448

>>11393440
What kinda dumb ass wears a town in a hit spring? How do you dry yourself off when you get out if the towel is soaked?

>> No.11393454

>>11393437
>>11393445
Posters in a board about Otaku culture.

>> No.11393461

>>11393454
Sorry I can't take a movie about a giant mutated dinosaur that goes back in time through space to fight super powered humanoid aliens and a giant monster alien in space.

>> No.11393466

>>11393437
>>11393445
>Shut the fuck up it's a guy in a rubber suit.

Years of social, commercialism parody, greed and political intrigued juxtaposed into heroics and environmentalism because of real world occurrences advertised on the back of a shitty Media Blasters Blu-ray as "rubber suit rumble" because a film from the '60s used suits to portray purposely created anthropomorphic characters. Quite the legacy.

>> No.11393496

>>11393466
>Years of social, commercialism parody, greed and political intrigued juxtaposed into heroics and environmentalism because of real world occurrences

You are retarded and don't know what you were talking about

>> No.11393549

>>11393466
Please don't confuse science fiction with sci-fi. "Sci-fi" was actually coined as a result of monster movies like Godzilla.

>> No.11393589

>>11393496
Original Gojira was an obvious allegorical take on nuclear weaponry and the outcome of it, this really isn't up for debate.

The original Japanese release of King Kong vs. Godzilla had a directional style comparable to Robocop with commercial advertisements laying down the tone of the film and Japanese men corrupting and bribing tribes with cigarettes and such.

Mothra vs. Godzilla featured themes of respect for the other men that the protagonist plead residents of Infant Island to help them because of Godzilla's destruction, but are refused because of Atomic testing and their society's previous refusal to give their trusted Mothra egg back to them. The Businessmen are represented by extreme greed and even kill each other over a locker filled with money.

Godzilla vs. Smog Monster represents Japan's plight to overcome pollution that a was significant issue for them at the time of the film's release.

Disrespect in the West can be attributed to deep-seated Xenophobia, treading all the way back to the "King of the Monsters" where Westerners were insulted by just how much more sincere and superior it was to their lackluster "Beast From 20,000 Fathoms," so content was butchered and naturally racist filmgoers received it poorly. Bad dubbing and budgetary issues, along with MST3K, this thread is a fine example of not putting things into perspective and being raised to literally hate an artform you don't understand. Don't bother responding, I already blocked this thread.

>> No.11393639

>>11393589

I wonder if you consider Sesame Street to be a deep show as well

>Disrespect in the West can be attributed to deep-seated Xenophobia, treading all the way back to the "King of the Monsters" where Westerners were insulted by just how much more sincere and superior it was to their lackluster "Beast From 20,000 Fathoms," so content was butchered and naturally racist filmgoers received it poorly. Bad dubbing and budgetary issues, along with MST3K, this thread is a fine example of not putting things into perspective and being raised to literally hate an artform you don't understand. Don't bother responding, I already blocked this thread.

This whole fucking thing

You are, for lack of a better term, autistic and retarded

>> No.11393658

>>11393589
Most MST3K-riffed films tried to have some deeper meaning (because SF usually did) and that's what makes them funny-bad and not just bad.

Godzilla is still a shoddy monster movie. The sequels are even worse. The closest I can think of in the West is horror franchises. A Nightmare on Elm Street was a good film. It wasn't art, it wasn't deep, but it was enjoyable. Then all the sequels were awful attempts to cash in on the idea.
Godzilla is the same, except the 1954 film was a typical 50s monster movie and the sequels were even worse.

>> No.11393669

>>11393589
>Westerners were insulted by just how much more sincere and superior it was to their lackluster "Beast From 20,000 Fathoms,"

I hate you so fucking much. The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms was awesome and Ray Harryhausen's effects are better than any Godzilla film I've seen.

>> No.11393684

>>11393639
?

It's a fact that content in the King of the Monsters rerelease was heavily changed and badly dubbed, and was badly received because of it. Any film critic will also tell you that even though Gojira started off as being heavily inspired, Beast by comparison is just trite and banal.

It's also a fact that poor Hong Kong dubbing had to flood the market, and MST3K attracted a crowd of clueless nerds to make fun of an otherwise awesome Godzilla adventure film and a film that was made in two weeks with a lunch box budget, but they wouldn't know that and it only adds fuel to the fire. Just look at something like Power Rangers for more insight on Tokusatsu treatment in the West, it's terrible.

This is all pretty much a fact, so how am I autistic?

>> No.11393696

No one watches Godzilla for the story.

>> No.11393697

>>11393684
>Just look at something like Power Rangers for more insight on Tokusatsu treatment in the West, it's terrible.

And you think Sentai isn't anything more than a kid's show but a super deep series exploring the depths of human existence as well?

>> No.11393707

>>11393669
Yeah an insincere, bland monster movie where a stereotypical designed lizard breaks loose from a ice, breaks a few buildings, only to be killed off by the very tool that was used to bring birth to him in a goofy, chest beating conclusion of nuclear bullying is better than an emotional adventure of discovery, regret, abusive human nature and nuclear struggle.

Cry me a river racist. Harryhausen stop-motion aged worst than Japanese suitmation and didn't give any other man an acting job unlike the latter.

>> No.11393721

>>11393697
Sentai itself still being a show for children and teenagers is beside the point. You're playing dumb and undermining content for a lack of argument, that's pretty autistic.

>> No.11393723

>>11393684
>>11393589
Your japanophilia is on a sickening level.

>> No.11393727

>>11393721
Please don't use words you don't understand. There's nothing "autistic" about what he said.

>> No.11393728

>>11393048
>>11393048
Why's the right girl wearing a towel on her head and on her body?

>> No.11393735

>>11393723

It's not japanophilia, he's just a retard

I love tokusatsu but I'm not dumb enough to imply they are anything more than enjoyable movies

>> No.11393744

>>11393740
Please stop projecting.

>> No.11393740

>>11393723
I'm sorry I know what I'm talking about???

I've been watching these movies for over 20 years, I know more than a thing or two over some pedophilia that watches a MST3K clip on youtube while he jacks off to paused screens of underage girls taking baths in some doujin game on his other monitor.

>> No.11393747

>>11393740
So what shit hole did you crawl out of?

>> No.11393748

>>11393740
Nah, you're just a weeaboo.

>> No.11393754

>>11393740
What's with all the question marks?

>> No.11393755

>>11393735
There's nothing more hilarious than some half-assers trying to make a fellow fan sound illegitimate because he takes enjoyment of a material to the next level. Some fucking Otaku board we have here. I guess the only thing worth sharing is how many piss bottles we were able to count while jacking off to Touhou and iDOLM@STER doujins. NEET4LYFE /b/ROTHERS!

>> No.11393757

>>11393755
Jesus, Mary, and Joseph you are one mad weeaboo.

>> No.11393761

>>11393755
How big of a loser do you have to be to look for deeper meaning in children's entertainment?

>> No.11393765

>>11393761
For a long time, it was taken for granted that children's entertainment was supposed to have some sort of deeper meaning than just "haha how funny", even if it's not actually DEEP.

>> No.11393766

>>11393755
You're got about 6 different boards confused. Maybe it's time for you to go back to yours already.

>> No.11393767

>>11393755

Because we are otaku we don't make it sound like don't make it sound like our hobbies are thing normalfags would enjoy because they are actually deep art forms

You sound like the retards from /a/ that try to convince people Madoka and Evangelion are masterpieces created by the most brilliant minds in the universe

>> No.11393776

LOL
Where did this man child come from?

>> No.11393771

>>11393761
How big of a loser do you have to be care about the top of some loli's chest being censored in a Western release???

>> No.11393772

>>11393771
What's with all the question marks?

>> No.11393789

>>11393757
Mad.
>>11393766
Mad.
>>11393767
Mad.
>>11393776
Mad.

Spend all day jacking off to underage girls and it dilutes your mind, making you think everything you say and consume is worthless and has no value. Toolboxes.

>> No.11393811

>>11393789
You seem to be the only one here that is genuinely upset.

>> No.11393813

I'm just waiting for this guy to start postin the Rugrats Theory.

>> No.11393946

Come on man, Japanese monster movies are great, but whatever "deeper" meaning they have is shallow and obvious. It's just fun to watch giant monsters destroy shit.

Can we please get back on topic and continue hating on CF?

>> No.11393972

>>11393946
>Can we please get back on topic and continue hating on CF?

I hate the people that think they are an actual good group and eat their shit more than SpaceDrake and his retardation

>> No.11394007

>>11393789
>Spend all day jacking off to underage girls and it dilutes your mind
You say that like it's a problem, fufufu~

>> No.11394035

>http://www.carpefulgur.com/drakblog/?p=50

>Around the time we were considering contacting EGS, a game came out. To avoid offending anyone, I’m not going to refer to it by name; we’ll call it The Game. I’d had the chance to play The Game in Japanese, and I felt it was probably one of the best games released. It was clever, fun, and had a real message to tell; through insidious satire it mercilessly pointed out and called out the worst of Japan’s nerd culture, all while containing incredibly human, incredibly touching stories.

>The Game was released in America shortly before all of this began. It wasn’t given anything close to the treatment it deserved. Its localization was flat, the characters lost much of their point, and what was insidious, yet almost indignant satire was played straight, giving a lot of people the wrong image. The Game does not have a good reputation over here, and frankly, the American version probably deserves it. Some people saw through to what it really was, but I can’t blame anyone who didn’t.

I'm trying to think about what fucking game he could be talking about in that timeframe, and all I'm drawing on is Ar Tonelico 2. Please, tell me he isn't enough of a dumb "kill all nerds" goon to think that was "biting insidious satire" of otaku culture.

>> No.11394041

Why the need/reminder to hate CF now? They have gone silent since the release of FS which was what, almost 2 years ago?

Not talking about them is the better option here.

>> No.11394043

Where did this "goon" meme come from?

>> No.11394058

>>11394041
They just announced they were working on the translation of Sora no Kiseki SC with Xseed.

>> No.11394060

>>11394043
>goon (n.)

>1921, "stupid person," from gony "simpleton" (1580s), of unknown origin, but applied by sailors to the albatross and similar big, clumsy birds (1839); sense of "hired thug" first recorded 1938 (in reference to union "beef squads" used to cow strikers in the Pacific northwest), probably from Alice the Goon, slow-witted and muscular (but gentle-natured) character in "Thimble Theater" comic strip (starring Popeye) by E.C. Segar (1894-1938). She also was the inspiration for British comedian Spike Milligan's "The Goon Show." What are now "juvenile delinquents" were in the 1940s sometimes called goonlets.

>> No.11394062

>>11393946
But Robocop is patrician black humor, right racist?

>> No.11394069

>>11394062
What the fuck are you talking about? Robocop is an over the top 80s action movie.

>> No.11394074

>>11394035

Yes, he is

>> No.11394081

>>11394069
You must dreadful to watch movies with. Taking everything for face value is a sign of autism you know.

>> No.11394091

>>11394081
I'm sorry but fucking Robocop really doesn't deserve an deeper consideration. It's an ultra violent action movie. Next you're going to tell me Bad Boys should be studied in film school for its deep social satire and political message.

>> No.11394087

>>11394081
>Taking everything for face value is a sign of autism you know.

It isn't

If your so upset people call you an autist, stop behaving like one instead of making yourself look more retarded

>> No.11394093

>>11394091
No, but Bad Boys II should.

>> No.11394096

>>11394087
I'm upset because you're acting like an autistic. (autist is a /v/ crossboarding term and not actually a word)

>> No.11394134

>>11394035
Any time goons enjoy something that's aimed at otaku they try to convince themselves that it's actually deep, ironic, and satirical. So yes.

>> No.11394173

>>11392952
>being employed
Fuck off with your "NEET" pride bullshit. This shit only picked up in 2010 and was only taken seriously by other autistic NEETs who needed to feel validated.

>> No.11394174

>>11394173
There is no reason to hate NEETs other than jealousy. I know that's why I dislike them.

>> No.11394197

>>11392952
How do you figure otaku buy their stuff?
By spending all day shitposting on an imageboard while their moms make them food?

I'm NEET myself but stop this idiocy.

>> No.11394229

>>11394134
Sure, they do that sort of thing all the time, but how is it humanly possible to look at a fucking Gust game and say it "mercilessly pointed out and called out the worst of Japan’s nerd culture" without being literally mentally incompetent?

>> No.11394239

>>11394229
I thought it was just a regular fantasy based JRPG with magical girl influenced characters.

>> No.11394255

>>11394174
How about the fact that NEETs are responsible for 90% of the chronic shitposting in this board? Or that the autistic NEETs promote this truNEET bullshit when it's clear most Japanese otaku work?

At first I loved this board because it was the only place I found other people like me: shut-in NEETs with a deep interest in Japanese media. Then over the years this truNEET culture was promoted to the level legitimate posters are getting bullied for just working, like most Japanese otaku do. This didn't happen from 2008 to well into 2009 and needs to stop.

>> No.11394257

>>11394035
I find it unsettling that they refer to a group of consumers as "the worst." A little too self-righteous when you're trying to sell your product, no?

>> No.11394279

>>11394255
I just don't think it's right to hate someone simply for not working. I'm pretty sure most sane people would choose a life without work over a life with work if they could. Most of the "truNEET" people aren't actually NEET anyway, they're just shitposting because they think it's funny.

>> No.11394281

>>11394255
Prove it.

>> No.11394287

>>11394035
>Ar Tonelico 2
Probably.

On wikipedia it says they initially wanted to translate the Atelier series.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recettear
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/01/17/post-mortem-recettear/

>> No.11394291

>>11393298

Not sure but /jp/ does it all the time

>> No.11394297

>>11394287
Interesting. Good thing they didn't touch Atelier in the end.

>> No.11394306

>>11393298
Fun things are fun.

>> No.11394307

>>11394035
>The Game was released in America shortly before all of this began. It wasn’t given anything close to the treatment it deserved. Its localization was flat, the characters lost much of their point, and what was insidious, yet almost indignant satire was played straight, giving a lot of people the wrong image. The Game does not have a good reputation over here, and frankly, the American version probably deserves it. Some people saw through to what it really was, but I can’t blame anyone who didn’t.

What the fuck?

>> No.11394322

>>11394173
I never said it wasn't bullshit.

>> No.11394326

>>11394307
Well, the AT2 localization was fairly notorious at the time. They had to issue a patch to make it actually work, and it wasn't a fantastic translation by any means. It wasn't a huge critical success or anything, not that Gust games ever are in the west.

That being said, there wasn't any incredible harsh satire skipped over by it, he's just full of shit.

>> No.11394345

>>11392137

why are people like this making more money than actual translators with an interest in the medium they consume

>> No.11394351

>>11394345
Because they are good at marketing, and marketing rules the world.

>> No.11394367

I'm playing trails in the sky right now. Did that one get butchered too? If so could someone give me a translated version without the butchering?

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drive

>> No.11394378

what the fuck happened to SA
i remember a couple of years back it was basically 4chan with memberships

photoshop threads were really good and everything was pretty much pretty good

how the fuck did it became SJW central considering it is the complete opposite of what SA was not even 3 years ago?

>> No.11394384

>>11394345
I hate to break this to you, but most translators just do it for the money and have little interest in what they do.

>> No.11394401

>>11394384
I was thinking more of VN and game translators when I said that since we're on /jp/

>> No.11394414

>>11394378
I heard they ban for mentioning Strike Witches.

>> No.11394415

>>11394401
VN fan translators release free patches for pirated games. It's not exactly a good business model.

>> No.11394417

>>11394414
How horrifying

>> No.11394431

Oh God, Carpe Fulgur is goons?

Fucking hell, I loved Recettear but now I can't feel comfortable giving them my money.

>> No.11394437

>>11394378
YCS, LF and BYOB were deleted and they were arguably a perfectly sound reason to join SA. YCS was deleted due to legal issues and because it was a hassle to moderate and the rest on the subforum soon followed.

After YCS and BYOB kicked it I basically never approached SA again and likely won't again in the future. GBS is legendary bad and I suggest you stay far away from it.

>> No.11394440

>>11394431
I've wondered if there was a fan translation for their games. I actually wanna play them but I'm not supporting goons.

>> No.11394448

>>11394431
One of the dudes that works on the games posts actively on Games if I recall correctly. I forget his username.

>> No.11394450

>>11394440
So steal the game. It's not very hard.

>> No.11394459

>>11394450
I don't wanna steal their translation and censorship though. I just straight up don't wanna experience it.

>> No.11394466

Shocking development: Game developers and translators post on video game forums. People who once proclaimed to love good games suddenly hate the games.

>> No.11394468

>>11394459
Do your reps, then. Nobody's going to retranslate a game that already has one unless the original one was machine-tier.

>> No.11394486

>>11394414

They did I saw that thread.

>> No.11394503

>>11394459
>>11394440
You'll have to just play in Japanese, then. It's not like it's very complicated, though, you should be okay.

>>11394466
I actually knew about the censorship fiasco before now, but I thought they were just innocent westerners who'd never been exposed to the loli aspect of Japanese culture. I didn't realize they were goons, that is, retards who should know better and are now acting like retarded goons about the situation.

It's like reading a novel and really enjoying it, then finding out the author went on to shoot up a school before killing himself. You can't look at the novel the same way again.

>> No.11394510

>>11394503
I would enjoy it even more.

>> No.11394511

>>11394414
>>11394417
>>11394486
I don't even know why they bother with an anime board. The person that runs the site doesn't like it and every new anime that comes out is for weirdos anyway unless it's some throwaway CGI Mecha for children. The fuck can anybody talk about, Macross Plus for the rest of the site's existence? What's the point?

>> No.11394523

>>11394511
In their defense, most anime from this decade has been pretty bad.

>> No.11394545

ITT 4chan is still butthurt at SA years after everyone forgot 4chan was created to be butthurt at SA.

>> No.11394587

>>11394511
The anime board is actually pretty surprisingly normal in its operations, from what I've heard and seen. They discuss most seasonal anime, just also concurrently with all the old entry level stuff since the whole forum is under one single board. Somehow they manage to discuss shows with fanservice without shitting themselves, as opposed to the rest of the forums.

>> No.11394600

>>11394523
That's hardly a defense. There's a difference between talking about how bad something is and not talking about it because you're forbidden.

>> No.11394609

>>11394545
Curses must be lifted.

>> No.11394637

>>11394503
>innocent westerners who'd never been exposed to the loli aspect of Japanese culture

Innocent people would never censor that, because innocent people wouldn't see it as sexual. You can only think of it as indecent if you either are a lolicon yourself or hold belief that people who created it are. I'm always assuming the former, but the latter necessitates exposure to at least the western misconceptions of the loli aspect of Japanese culture.

>> No.11394642

>>11394523
"In the defense of something completely irrational and silly, the end result lines up with my opinion" isn't really a good defense.

>> No.11394657

>>11394637
I see your point but I've also met people who think pictures of children in the bathtub constitutes child porn. I figured they were just stupid in that respect, not stupid in all respects.

>> No.11394666

>>11394637
In western culture, nudity is always seen as sexual.

>> No.11394721

>>11394666
In cultures that are descended from Britain you mean.

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>>11394721
They removed the genitals of statues (or covered it up with a fig leaf) in Greece because nudity was viewed as sexual. It's anywhere in the western world, not just England.

>> No.11394820

>>11394787
I doubt France, Spain, or even Italy are like that.

>> No.11394837

>>11394787
>They removed the genitals of statues (or covered it up with a fig leaf) in Greece because nudity was viewed as sexual

That was only during Christianity's rule in the dark ages, the statues used to have genitals

>> No.11394865

>>11394837
You can't say Christianity doesn't still have power.

>> No.11394925

>>11394865
In South America and possibly in Africa. That's it. Wow. They could start a new-age crusade with niggers.

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>>11392933

I think he meant being a girl on /jp/

Which is true, and mostly as it should be, because pic related. Exceptions of course are where the gender of the speaker is actually relevant

It's any different contrary wise, either; I use male pronouns to describe you people, but it's not like you're anything more than text on a computer screen to me in the first place, so if you go "hurr durr I'm a guy" then nobody cares, as it should be

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>>11392934
>/jp/ finds having sex with more than one person morally unacceptable and will shame you for it.

Setting aside the fact that you will obviously be banned for /soc/ and /b/ shit not even remotely related to the boards such as describing how many people you've fucked, personally I use the following rule of thumb for deciding if someone is a slut or not; divide their age by 10, round down, and multiply that number by 2. That is the slut threshold, and if you have had sex with a number of different people exceeding that number of your life, you are a revolting whore who cares more about cocks and vaginas than a healthy relationship

So, if you've had sex with more than 2 people at 18, you're a slut. If you've had sex with more than 4 people at 26, you're a slut. If you've had sex with more than 6 people at 32, you're a slut

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>>11393068
>They fucking translated "Yatta" as Yayifications for fuck sake.

Hey, fuck you buddy

>> No.11395132

If only ZUN!bar was here...

>> No.11395142

>>11395101
This seems like an awfully arbitrary rule. I mean, why not 5 people at the age of 32? Or 3? Or, why not a bonus or malus depending on your social circumstances. I could also imagine a multiplier for blonde girls.

>> No.11395182

>>11395142
>This seems like an awfully arbitrary rule.

If you have more than two relationships that go to third base in one decade, you've for one reason or another failed to pursue that relationship for any substantial amount of time. You're either poor relationship material, uninterested in a long term relationship, or just sex-thirty and can't stop fucking people. Perhaps some combination thereof

If you're feeling lenient, you could round up to the closest tens before dividing, so 26 would mean 6 total different sexual partners. I am not feeling lenient

>Why not 5 people at the age of 32? or 3?

Lower than the threshold is, of course, ideal. The lower the better. But it's only in going above it that you've demonstrated an average relationship lifespan of less than 5 years per sexual partner. That is steering into quite slutty territory, there

>> No.11395240

>>11395132
What would the !bar say, I wonder?

>> No.11395244

>>11392894
theres a gunpla thread (i think thats the name of it) in ADTRW, but its all gundam-like stuff. I honestly have no idea where toy stuff gets discussed, pretty sure it's just one of those topics that SA doesn't support.

>> No.11395358

What the heck is going on? Is this girl an idol or somthing?

>> No.11395369

>>11395109
go back to gaia. it sucks and is toxically memetic.

yrs im aware of the yatta video a decade ago but "yayifications" is pure fucking poison. it sucks.

>> No.11395378

>>11395358
new im@s dlc

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>>11395369

What are you even talking about? I know of no such meme. It's a good localization because it's actually memorable and fits Recette's cute chipper attitude. Seriously, "Hooray" is your alternative? Take the stick out of your ass

>> No.11395411

>>11395386
you have no right to decide whats "appropriate" based off your own opinions and neither can CF.

youre also unbelievably ignorant. yatta is not intrinsically memetic. yayishit is and has become one. this is unlike the shit in something like s;g where a meme can be localized with a meme, if youre localizing that much in the first place. i dont agree with it but its defensible.

yatta is a word. yayifishit isnt and thats just one of the problems.

you didnt know its a shit reddit tier meme? someone posted the macro in this very thread. /v/ adores it and used/es it since the localization released. all the dumb kids that play this use it, on their blogs, twitter, reddit, etc. again, your ignorance doesnt suddenly make this untrue.

and thats just ONE of the things CF sucks at. yayifishit exists but its still at the bottom of the barrel. in more ways rhan one.

>> No.11395444

>>11395411

I don't think you've ever localized or made a script in your entire life. You just hate things because they're popular because you are an autistic hipster

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>>11395132

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>>11395369
I liked "Capitalism, ho!"...

>> No.11395572

>>11395444
>You just hate things because they're popular because you are an autistic hipster
You're not funny, goon.

>>11395544
Go back to /a/.

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>>11395572
Maybe I will

>> No.11395626

>>11394511
Macross Plus has cartoon sex and the next two sequels both feature topless female children.

Hope you got ten bucks, fag.

>> No.11396561

>>11395444
What an awful post. Think about it anon, you've just said the only thing that qualifies someone to comment on or criticize any work is to have made a similar work themselves. This logically would lead everyone in those fields to have an uncontested circle jerk and continue to produce shit you can't possibly ... oh that's exactly what you want.

>> No.11397279

olio

>> No.11397279,1 [INTERNAL] 

None of you guys probably saw it, but the head translator for CF got into basically this exact same argument with a troll on the NIS forums over Atelier Totori (The transparent skirt specifically).

>> No.11397279,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>11394035
Yeah, it's Ar Tonelico II. Look at this comment:
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/07/24/atelier-2014-may-be-brand-new-dusk-series-wont-end-with-escha-logy/#comment-974486049

He also rants about 2D girls showing too much skin in their outfits. What a fucking idiot.

>> No.11397279,3 [INTERNAL] 

Holy crap how can this guy be such a shithead.

Is there anything us W-bros can do to make them lose sales or popularity or anything?

>> No.11397279,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>11397279,3
Sales on what? He hasn't released anything in a year.

>> No.11397279,5 [INTERNAL] 

Carpe Fulgur LLC was informally founded in December of 2009 by Andrew Dice and Robin Light-Williams. The company was formally registered in June of 2010.

The company was created in the vision of offering a localization group that could bring deserving works of interactive entertainment -- independently-made or otherwise -- from Japan to America while using the fruits of modern technology to collaborate as closely as possible with the original content creators, in order to create English-language versions of works that read naturally in English but were still as close as possible to the visions of the original creators. The two need not be mutually exclusive -- that rests at the heart of Carpe Fulgur's philosophy.

>> No.11397279,6 [INTERNAL] 

When we started this company, Andrew and I didn’t really expect to make a ton of money. Recettear was a good game, but actually getting recognized even with a good game is equal parts blind luck and purpose. In the best case, we’d help a Japanese group get some foreign recognition, get them on Steam, and get something for our own resume to bring somewhere else. In the world of the time, it was our best bet at actually getting a job.

Well, we hit the lottery with blind luck, let me tell you that. I couldn’t possibly be thankful enough to the people who made sure we could come this far, who still make sure we can keep going.

>> No.11397279,7 [INTERNAL] 

Good news for sora no kiseki fans!
https://twitter.com/BlondRobin/status/307272137494917121

>> No.11397279,8 [INTERNAL] 

>>11397279,7
sexual donut ‏@hentaiphd 21 Feb

so there has been 0 female devs or speakers at the sony event thus far, just so you know
Retweeted by Robin Light-Williams

I like it. Hopefully his translation will provide all fans with "insidious satire mercilessly pointing and calling out the worst of Japan’s nerd culture."

>> No.11397279,9 [INTERNAL] 

arghhhhh how do I get in touch with Tom/Wyrdwad without using Twitter?

>> No.11397279,10 [INTERNAL] 

>>11397279,9
Try their forums.

>> No.11397279,11 [INTERNAL] 

actually try this

E-mail us your comments to comments@xseedgames.com

Any comments sent to XSEED Games may be posted on our site. If you do not want your name posted together with your comment, please tell us in the body of your e-mail.

>> No.11397279,12 [INTERNAL] 

Shcum die

>> No.11397279,13 [INTERNAL] 

After an unsuccessful interview with a localization company in Southern California, Dice recalls talking with Internet friend (and Japanese-language expert) Robin Williams (no, not that Robin Williams) about potentially breaking into the industry on their own.

After briefly considering approaching Gust Corporation about translating their Atelier series of games, Williams suggested reaching out to the developers of an odd little doujin RPG he'd heard about, called Recettear (pronounced Reh-sah-teer). "My reaction was, 'Rece-wha?'" Dice said.

You Want To Do What, Now?

The 2007 Japanese release focuses on a girl who takes over an RPG-style item shop to help pay off her father's debts. With anime-inspired visuals, an old-school, 2D overhead look and a main character that's a fairy, the game doesn't exactly scream American blockbuster. But that didn't hinder Dice in his efforts to bring the game across the ocean.

Recettear's Japanese developer, a group of independent game-makers that goes by the name EasyGameStation, was similarly eager to bring the game to the American market, Dice said. But they were a little wary of Carpe Fulgur.

"It was something of a challenge to convince them that a pair of guys that didn’t even live in the same state together and had no verifiable previous work experience in the game industry were the best people to localize their game," he said.

But Dice said the two independent-minded companies gelled over their outsider status. "[EasyGameStation] operate like a lot of other groups in Japan because they are unincorporated, they are basically just a group of friends that like to make stuff together," he said. "There's sort of a shared mentality there. Once they understood that we were two guys that were mainly doing this because we wanted to, that really helped establish some faith and camaraderie in us."

Once the translation started, Dice said the Carpe Fulgur team found subtle ways to add their own touch to the game. For instance, in the original Japanese, main character Recette constantly repeats the Japanese word for "Yay!" ("Yatta"). In the American translation, Dice changed these outbursts up with silly suffixes, transforming a simple "Yay!" into a "Yayifications!" or a"Yayperoni!" for instance.

"When you actually scripted it out and looked at the original script, it got a little bit repetitious," Dice said. "It wasn’t really unique enough to be a catch phrase, but it was still something that she needed to say, but if you just left it alone it would be monotonous... it would just probably bore the reader a little bit. So I decided to get a little bit creative with all those vanilla 'Yays.'"

There were some odd bits of Japanese culture that were changed for the move across the Pacific as well. For example, the main characters' casual preference for Japanese foods didn't really fit with the game's old-fashioned fantasy French village setting. "It was a little bit weird when you’d have Recette and Tear talking about the poverty of their food, and then they’d be talking about rice and tofu and they were surrounded by very obviously French and Western buildings," Dice said.

What Dice had hoped would be a four-month translation effort on Recettear took roughly twice that long, he said, thanks to some "real life intrusions" and the trials of telecommuting. "I actually still think that if we had been in a central office -- if [Williams] and I didn’t live across the country from each other and have to rely on the internet for networking and what not -- that things could have gotten done a lot faster," he said.

>> No.11397279,14 [INTERNAL] 

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3505064&pagenumber=20&perpage=40#post413762797

don't worry guys the Renne stuff is going to be unaffected in 3rd with a leader like this

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2983334&userid=79340

why is he using an avatar of a little rabbit boy-creature without pants

doesn't that require a towel there

i think it's showing too much fur

is this insidious satire

>> No.11397279,15 [INTERNAL] 

>>11397279,14
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3505064&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=21#post413774018

Why does SomethingAwful even play these games?

>> No.11397279,16 [INTERNAL] 

>>11395109
>>11395386
>>11395444
>>11395544
It's so easy to pick out the new /a/ posters out of the general /jp/ populace.

>> No.11397279,17 [INTERNAL] 

>>11397279,16
How dare they go against the epic hivemind.

>> No.11397279,18 [INTERNAL] 

>>11397279,17
It's the way they post.

>> No.11397279,19 [INTERNAL] 

You VN people should try contacting circles that create doujinsoft and release them here like the faggots did, so they're not the only ones making this much money out of a hobby

>> No.11397279,20 [INTERNAL] 

and by hobby I mean translating niche Japanese media on your spare time

>> No.11397279,21 [INTERNAL] 

From what I gather the translator guy (Robin) does everything. I have no idea why he puts up with that.

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