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What are you reading? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.

>> No.9071499,1 [INTERNAL] 

It might be that time again -- another janitor seems to have burned out and lost focus on what is rule-breaking content. I've already sent 3 e-mails.

>> No.9071499,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,1
What was the image? Subhuman woxxy's archive doesn't have the post.

>> No.9071499,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,2

Just a screencap of an e-mail I sent to mootykins regarding a certain janitor.

>> No.9071499,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,2
http://i.imgur.com/8CJre.jpg

>> No.9071499,5 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,4
Whine all you want but that shit doesn't belong on /jp/. If you want to talk about your Naruto/Raildex light novels, go to /a/.

>> No.9071499,6 [INTERNAL] 

I actually sent a ``counter'' email right after you made this thread.

>> No.9071499,7 [INTERNAL] 

Deleting LN threads isn't cool. I will also email moot about this, later.

>> No.9071499,8 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,7
Look at the nature of the threads. It's fairly obvious what OP was doing.

>> No.9071499,9 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,8
It doesn't matter. The wording doesn't matter. Hell, I'm not good at making interesting openers myself, so sometimes I have to mimic other threads.

In before I made this thread. I didn't.

>> No.9071499,10 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,8
What do you mean the 'nature' of the threads? http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S9071383 what is wrong with this thread? Image from an LN in the OP. Text saying what are you reading, looking forward to, etc. much the same as the VN General threads.

So what is the problem? Why does an LN thread get deleted, when it states in the very rules that LNs go here, yet a JAV thread that obviously doesn't belong sticks around for days?

>> No.9071499,11 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,10
I don't really care but you know, the janitor deleted this probably because those posters started shitposting about Saten being on the cover, and that would lead to a retarded Saten thread. I sincerely think it wouldn`t, and we would actually have a peaceful LN thread, but whatever.

>> No.9071499,12 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,11
When are people not shitposting on /jp/? The janitor doesn't really do anything about shitposters in a touhou thread. And what kind of logic would that be anyway? If a certain anime drew trolls and shitposters on /a/, would they just start deleting all threads about that anime? Of course not.

Janitor needs to do his job properly.

>> No.9071499,13 [INTERNAL] 

I have never seen a good Light Novel discussion thread in /jp/. It's always as an excuse to post whatever anime of the season you people are pushing. Probably because there is never attention directed to a light novel series before the anime adaptation. It always goes the other way around, which might be the reason /a/ is a far better place to discuss LN.

Would send a counter email, but I don't think it's even necessary. Nobody is stupid enough to believe the spammers' delusions.

>> No.9071499,14 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,13
>I have never seen a good Light Novel discussion thread in /jp/.
And I've never seen a good touhou discussion thread. Who cares? If you aren't interested in the light novel threads, ignore them.

>It's always as an excuse to post whatever anime of the season you people are pushing
No. There were light novel threads after moot first said they were ok, and they didn't have any of what you're claiming.

>Probably because there is never attention directed to a light novel series before the anime adaptation.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about. That would be the same as saying there is never any attention directed to a VN before the anime adaptation. There were Haganai and Oreimo threads, even on /jp/, well before the anime for them aired. Don't be a dumbass.

>> No.9071499,15 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,14
Uh, there have been many, many good touhou discussion threads that were completely civil. Sorry, but that's a big lie. Since 2008, I'm 100% that at least one thread of the main factor of the creation of this board has been decent, or good. Now about Light Novels, I don't know, but what I can guess, is that because of how Saten is always seen as an idol or as a symbol of /jp/ ( and a symbol of shitposting too ), there's bound to be hatred from the janitor on the saten threads, be it justified or not (although at least in my opinion it makes sense, but I still would leave the thread anyway). I think the thread should be left alone, and if the thread ended up derailed into a saten thread, I would delete it. In the other case, leave, because why not? People would be peacefully discussing LNs anyway.

>> No.9071499,16 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,14
Link them. Show me those LN threads that aren't about Saten, Kuroko or Meat.

Don't buy into their lies. I wish there was decent LN discussion in this board since it would mean something besides old VN and touhou threads, but these are not proper threads. It never goes further than sharing images of how cute Saten is or how big Meat's tits are.

>> No.9071499,17 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,13
>Nobody is stupid enough to believe the spammers' delusions.
So basically, if you make a Light Novels thread you are automatically labeled as shitposter?

Something tells me you only stick to one or two General threads, maybe the Fumo or the Tea thread, and everything else is basically "shitposting" since you don't give a fuck about what other people might like.

>> No.9071499,18 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,16
>Show me those LN threads that aren't about Saten, Kuroko or Meat.
What exactly does it matter what is being discussed in the LN thread? Because popular LN characters are getting most of the discussion instead of less known ones, it bothers you? Just try bringing attention to the LN you want then. Otherwise, be quite.

>It never goes further than sharing images of how cute Saten is or how big Meat's tits are.
How exactly is this different from the majority of threads on /jp/? It's ok to have threads of people just posting images of Chihaya or Takane for weeks? Or a thread just posting images of some touhou and talking about how you would fuck them? But as soon as people are doing it for a character like Saten or whoever else you have qualms with, it should be deleted? Give me a break.

And serious LN discussion doesn't even have to happen from the get go. We didn't use to have serious VN general threads, now they are a staple and are always on the board. So what if the LN threads aren't doing what you want right away? Give it some time. In any case, it is no reason to delete them.

>> No.9071499,19 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,17
If you make a Light Novel thread starting with one of the few illustrations where Saten, a character that has been spammed for years now, actually appears in a huge series of novels, then yes, you're a shitposter. It'd be naive to think otherwise.

>> No.9071499,20 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,19
Your kind is quick to call others names.

So, what "General" thread do you hail from?

>> No.9071499,21 [INTERNAL] 

>>This is the appropriate board for the discussion of Japanese visual and light novels.

How is this even an issue when it's one of the few things we have in our rules? If the mod/janitor deletes it, then just repost it until he gets it into his head that it belongs. It's all you can do really; our janitor isn't exactly an expert on otaku culture you know. He doesn't know this stuff.

Also /r/ Sword Art Online threads.

>> No.9071499,22 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,13
>I have never seen a good Light Novel discussion thread in /jp/.

Probably because the janitors delete them before they can get off the ground.

>>9071499,15
>Uh, there have been many, many good touhou discussion threads
𝐇𝐀𝐇𝐀𝐇𝐀𝐇𝐀𝐇𝐀𝐇𝐀𝐇𝐀𝐇𝐀𝐇𝐀𝐇𝐀𝐇𝐀
>>9071499,19
This right here is the problem. It all boils down to, "I don't like Saten/Railgun, therefore, not /jp/ related, and if you do like it, you're a shitposter."

And probably "I only discuss quality topics like which Touhou has the cleanest anus, or which Touhou's armpits I want to lick."

>> No.9071499,23 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,21
That is the worst advice you could possibly give. Next you'll say that every reposted thread should also have a very loud complaint about the moderation and going full fight da powah.

Doesn't do wonders to your public image either. You turn into the kid that throws a tantrum when things don't go their way in the board's eyes.

They actually did a good move here, mailing directly to moot and encouraging others to do so as well. You mostly avoid the whole global 8 problem and send feedback directly to the one that can do something about it. It's what you're supposed to do when you disagree with the moderation.

With that out of the way: Why are you acting so surprised? This is like complaining about your thread getting deleted while using polite_korean.jpg as the OP.

>> No.9071499,24 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,23
>>That is the best advice you could possibly give for a website like 4chan.

Fixed. You also said yourself that moot and the mods don't care. I'm not sure why you'd want to deal with their bull at this point in time anyways. Just think about it: the fact that you have to send e-mails about light novels out of all things only shows that the rules mean nothing. The mods and janitors will just continue to operate however they feel like, and the Global 8 only exists to cover moot's ass in case CP and other illegal things get posted. It doesn't exist for our benefit.

That's why I say stop worrying about all this stuff and just post. Who cares. Appearances be damned; it's all just otaku culture stuff to begin with anyways.

>> No.9071499,25 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,23
Light novels specifically say they belong on the board via the rules. That is a bit different than just complaining and reposting whatever you want.

>This is like complaining about your thread getting deleted while using polite_korean.jpg as the OP.
The first thread that was deleted had a legitimate page from a light novel. Who gives a shit if it had a picture of Saten in it.

>> No.9071499,26 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,24
>Just think about it: the fact that you have to send e-mails about light novels out of all things only shows that the rules mean nothing.
How does it show anything of the sort? A janitor failed to properly enforce the rules, so you email 4chan administration about it, which has been effective before.

>> No.9071499,27 [INTERNAL] 

OP--who is probably now in here and laughing his socks off--started these threads with a picture of a character commonly used for shitposting. Believe it or not, this matters, even if you think images don't matter on an image board. Naturally the thread devolved into a discussion about that character, so the janitor deleted it. He reposted it, nothing different, with a short disclaimer to antagonize the janitor. Obviously, it was deleted. He reposted it again, with an email to moot complaining about the janitor. Obviously, it was deleted.

It's an age-old tactic. I've even done it myself. Most people here probably have. Try and shoehorn some bullshit to start drama. Look at all the threads mimicking GUST threads, or the "lol its an ln so i can discuss the anime" threads. OP was just trying to antagonize you and our meido. And I guess this discussion shows that with enough persistence and feigned "why, oh why, was my thread deleted!" you can get away with it.

But whatever, email moot. Link this thread. Someone post his reply if he responds.

>> No.9071499,28 [INTERNAL] 

I posted a Naruto LN thread and I was warned for it:
http://i.imgur.com/eKhZu.jpg

This worries me because it largely implies that if you shitpost in a thread enough, you can get it deleted.

>> No.9071499,29 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,27
>Naturally the thread devolved into a discussion about that character, so the janitor deleted it.
Okay, so next time I see a Light Novels threads all I'll have to do is samefag it into a Saten disucssion to get it deleted?

>> No.9071499,30 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,29

Depends how lazy the janitor is feeling (or which janitor is active). Sometimes spam/trolling/shitposting is deleted properly. Other times the whole thread is deleted.

>> No.9071499,31 [INTERNAL] 

EURO GARBAGE TRUCK SIMULATOR 2012

/jp/ RELATED BECAUSE I'M PLAYING ON JAPANESE SERVERS

>>9071499,29
You'll need a proxy of some sort to get away with it.

>> No.9071499,32 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,29

Better yet, start shitposting with a Touhou you don't like. Then the janitor will be forced to delete all threads with that Touhou!

>> No.9071499,33 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,32
You are a genius!

>> No.9071499,34 [INTERNAL] 

This whole thing is absurd. The janitor's actions might as well be random. I honestly have no idea what's going to get deleted and what won't, and it apparently requires me to sit on the boards and make sure I don't post about anything someone else posted about at some point in the past. Even the term "shitposting" never really meant anything. It's just insane and depressing.

>> No.9071499,35 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,27
>the thread devolved into a discussion about that character
The thread got an entirety of 5 replies. How can you say it devolved into anything?

>> No.9071499,36 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,34

>it apparently requires me to sit on the boards and make sure I don't post about anything someone else posted about at some point in the past.

Even then, Saten threads have been allowed with no problems in the past. In fact the janitor came in and deleted all the clowns shitting it up.

Non-Touhou video game threads used to be allowed, but recently the janitor deleted a Falcom thread.

No rhyme or reason to it.

>> No.9071499,37 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,36
>Non-Touhou video game threads used to be allowed
Niche and obscure genres are still allowed, like galges and H games.

>> No.9071499,38 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,35
He considers it a de-evolution because they were discussing a character that he personally disliked. That's all that post is really.

>>9071499,37
Most modern galge are also RPGs or strategy games. It's best to stop thinking in genres, and think more about content. Good modern indicators of a niche game aimed at otaku are anime artwork and/or 2D graphics.

>> No.9071499,39 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,38
>personally disliked
There's a difference between opinion and spam macros, ZUN!bar.

For example, I am one of the few /jp/ers who liked Madoka. Homu was my favorite character. However I still report Homu threads and try to get them deleted because they're off-topic and used entirely for spamming.

>> No.9071499,40 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,32
Too bad that kike guy doesn't stick with one TH.

>> No.9071499,41 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,39

Saten/Raildex is off-topic?

>> No.9071499,42 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,41
Yeah. All Raildex discussion and fanbase is located in /a/ for a reason. Even kuroko spammer relocated.

>> No.9071499,43 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,42
But the rules say that /jp/ is the board for light novel discussion.

>> No.9071499,44 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,43
the rules say /jp/ shouldn't have spam

>> No.9071499,45 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,44
Please define "spam" for me. If it's "a bunch of threads with no effort put into them," then the janitor better get started deleting the 10 or so pages of Touhou threads/imagedumps.

>> No.9071499,46 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,42
Just like Gundam discussion can exist on both /a/ and /m/, Raildex discussion can exist on both /a/ and /jp/.

>> No.9071499,47 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,39
>>I am one of the few /jp/ers who liked Madoka.

Stopped reading there. Anyways, there's no difference between a Sanae thread or a Saten thread. If you think there are any differences, then it's due to your own personal tastes and biases and such.

In a perfect world mods/janitors wouldn't let their personal tastes affect their judgment, but we're on 4chan of all places I guess. Anything goes here.

>> No.9071499,48 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,47
Sanae is from touhou project.
Saten is from Railgun anime.

You're an idiot if you don't see how one is related to the board and how the other belongs elsewhere.

>> No.9071499,49 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,48
Saten is in a VN, light novel, and several doujin games. Just because she's in an anime and manga as well does not make her unrelated.

>> No.9071499,50 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,49

So is Ash Ketchum or Light Yagami or Naruto or whoever else you care to name. The point is it's no secret trolls are posting Saten simply to rile people up, and that's how it all started. Not to mention she's (originally) from a manga.

If you want to discuss Index, go for it. It's a decent series and I'd be happy to talk about it.

>> No.9071499,51 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,38
>Good modern indicators of a niche game aimed at otaku are anime artwork and/or 2D graphics.
Yeah, no. Especially coming from someone who goes on /jp/ only to discuss anime and video games.

>> No.9071499,52 [INTERNAL] 

http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/image/8BWI5w8OpeuUQqK6XcvNjw

Guys why is this image (and its variants) so frequently deleted? After all, the threads feature Flandre--a Touhou character! Sometimes the janitor deletes threads before they even get going. Could it be that certain images and characters are used for spamming, and that the janitor deletes these threads because he knows they'll attract trolls?

>> No.9071499,53 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,50
Where a character is originally from is irrelevant. We frequently have threads discussing VN adaptations of originally /a/ only material. It's not a big deal.

Kind of like how you could have a thread on /a/ discussing Nagisa or Saber or something, even though they are characters originally from non /a/ content.

And honestly, if someone wanted to discuss the Naruto, Death Note, whatever light novels themselves, then I'd say go for it. Sure, I don't like those series, but I'd just ignore it.

>> No.9071499,54 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,53
> light novels themselves

Great, same for Index.

>> No.9071499,55 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,50
>it's no secret trolls are posting Saten simply to rile people up

This is what the NSJ really believes. It's all a big troll conspiracy! /jp/ers have been posting Saten for years just to make people mad! All those hours spent drawing OC Saten artwork just to make people mad! E-mails written to moot complaining that the janitor is not following explicit, black-and-white rules? They're just trolling! Trying to make people mad!

The fact of the matter is, there's only one person getting mad about Saten, and that person is NSJ. And would you look at that, the new light novel thread hasn't been touched, because the OP didn't use a Saten image.

>> No.9071499,56 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,52
>Guys why is this image (and its variants) so frequently deleted? After all, the threads feature Flandre--a Touhou character!
What exactly are you trying to prove? That is a specific image that is spammed. If someone made a normal touhou thread, featuring a normal image of Flandre and not that one that is spammed, do you think the Janitor would delete it? Of course he wouldn't.

>> No.9071499,57 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,54
People are free to discuss Index characters as well, much in the way people are free on /jp/ to discuss idolmaster character, or other such things. If people were making threads just discussing the Index anime or manga, then I would agree that they should be deleted.

>> No.9071499,58 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,52
He very rarely deletes those threads, along with JBCS.

>>9071499,54
Railgun has LNs too, you know.

>> No.9071499,59 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,49
>>9071499,53
At this point I have to ask:
Have you read the Index light novels? Be honest.

Saten makes brief cameos. She's primarily a character of the manga and rarely gets involved in the main plot. I'll give you the VN though, but I don't see why you'd choose to discuss one character rather than the VN itself. We've had some good threads about it, actually.

>> No.9071499,60 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,59
Railgun has light novels that are separate from the Index light novels you know.

>> No.9071499,61 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,58
>Railgun has LNs too, you know.
Really? Since when.

Man I've been out of the loop too long.

>> No.9071499,62 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,61
Since 2010. There are three volumes or so. I believe they came bundled with the Railgun DVD/BD special releases or something.

>> No.9071499,63 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,62
Neato.

How are they? Are they just standalone stories, or do they fit into the chronology somewhere?

>> No.9071499,64 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,63
I haven't actually read them as I'm not that big a Railgun fan. Here is a summary page for the first one http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Toaru_Kagaku_no_Railgun:_Arts_and_Sciences_City_SS

>> No.9071499,65 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,55
>NSJ
It's hard to take you seriously with that, you know.
The other thread has no Saten and it's going well. Obviously the problem is not light novels, but a spammed character.

And then you have >>9077411 and I find it difficult to relate to your plight. Take your obsession with Saten to where it will be well received instead of trying to force your way here. Look how happier the Kuroko fans are back in /a/.

>> No.9071499,66 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,65
You have got to be kidding. Have you ever actually seen a Saten thread on /a/? Let me tell you, it's not pretty. To say that she will be better received there shows that you have not been around very long. On the other hand, /jp/ loves her. The only /jp/ers that don't like Saten are the janitor and a couple of others. She is more popular than some Touhous, most Idolm@sters, Rika, and more. The new janitor is letting a personal vendetta get in the way of his judgment (something the janitor application _specifically_ says not to do!) and we /jp/ veterans will not tolerate it.

>> No.9071499,67 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,55
>The fact of the matter is, there's only one person getting mad about Saten, and that person is NSJ.
People have detested Saten spam since long before the new janitor arrived.

>>9071499,43
>But the rules say that /jp/ is the board for light novel discussion.
I've never actually seen anyone discuss the Railgun light novels despite the fact that people have had years to do it now.

>> No.9071499,68 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,67
>People have detested
Stop using "people", "we" and "/jp/" like you reprsented the whole board, you sound like zunbar.
I don't think people on /jp/ "detest" things. They just report and move on. But then there are dudes like you and the janitor, who completely lose their shit whenever they see a picture of a certain character.

>> No.9071499,69 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,68
You should also apply that to >>9071499,66 then.
> /jp/ loves her.

Overall I'd say (in terms of numbers) /jp/ doesn't, which is why the threads are reported. Not many people like spam, even if a few people choose to take it seriously.

>> No.9071499,70 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,66

>The new janitor is letting a personal vendetta get in the way of his judgment
Spam is against the rules. Janitors aren't incapable of (or banned from) forming simple patterns in their heads. "Topic X is barely relevant and spammed all over the place? Someone makes a Topic X thread? Guess I'll delete it."
You can argue Nocturnes or Kuroko or whatever else is on-topic, for instance, and faux-genuine threads have been deleted for it.

Reminds me of when "manga was banned from /a/" because people kept spamming Touhou manga. The mods aren't idiots. They can tell what you're doing. The rules aren't a computer program, they're for human beings with critical thinking skills to apply to posts.

>> No.9071499,71 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,67
>I've never actually seen anyone discuss the Railgun light novels despite the fact that people have had years to do it now.
Light novels being /jp/ was only added to the rules recently you know.

>> No.9071499,72 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,70
>Topic X is barely relevant
False. Light novels are 100% relevant. It is explicitly stated in the rules. There is no argument against this.

Touhou is mentioned nowhere in the rules. We have two other boards for video games. Touhou is less relevant than Saten and light novels.

>spammed all over the place
False. Saten threads generally pop up one at a time, maybe a couple of times per day at most. And if the janitor(s) didn't delete threads, Saten fans wouldn't have to keep remaking them - they would only pop up once per week or so.

Touhou is constantly spammed all over the place. I'd wager over 50% of threads on /jp/ are related to Touhou. Most of those threads are of extremely poor quality. Touhou is spam.

>The rules aren't a computer program, they're for human beings with critical thinking skills to apply to posts.
And when those "critical thinking skills" are flawed, it results in a ton of users that turn to shitposting. What is the thought process that decides Valkyria Chronicles threads should be deleted, but not World of Tanks or Korean MMOs? What is the thought process that decides 10 pages of shitty Touhou threads is not spam, but one Saten thread is? What is the thought process that decides "Topic X is barely relevant and spammed all over the place?" when Topic X is completely explicitly relevant and rarely, if never, spammed?

It's not critical thinking. It is a personal grudge that the janitor has against Saten and Saten fans. Please read through this thread: >>9065773 and tell me otherwise. Someone said Saten fans are just trolls trying to rile him up. But I think it is the other way around.

>> No.9071499,73 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,72
One of the main reasons this board was created WAS because Touhou was pretty much a thread derailment and constant spam on /a/, so I guess I can see through your reasoning, although one of the things that /jp/ didn't change since 2008 is that it always discusses touhou. Yep, it is visible that there is a lot of touhou threads that aren't of good quality, but going as far as to say that touhou is less relevant just because it is in the rules, that's silly.

Saten was constantly spammed 2 years ago, and yes, I believe that we should give them a chance, you know, to see how that goes. Even then, Saten has strong presence mainly in the anime, and I can only see one reason for you to create Saten threads : Imagedump anime screencaps of Saten, and a few other fanarts.. Saten is one of the most reposted images mainly because of spam, and you know, spam is not cool.

About the critical thinking being flawled, it really depends. We've always, always had "bad" touhou threads, since forever, so the reason why they are pretty much allowed is there. I go to /jp/ to discuss touhou and a few Visual Novels, and since I don't know much about LNs, I can't really help with the discussion there.

What I would say to you is pretty much that you should at least try creating a decent Railgun thread, and see if you can discuss the /jp/ related parts of the franchise itself, without derailing the thread into a random Saten imagedump. It doesn't hurt to try. If you manage to do that, and show the staff that you guys can discuss about Saten and the VNs/LNs themselves, everything would work well for both sides.

>> No.9071499,74 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,72
>What is the thought process
There's no thought process. All you can do is taking it easy, as in: don't care about anything or anyone but yourself and your own threads. Don't think, just post.

I know on 4chan you lose the moment you start caring, but still...

>> No.9071499,75 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,72
Light novels, not anime characters.

Shmup characters are fine because shmups are /jp/-related.

>> No.9071499,76 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,72

You seem pretty upset by this. If you genuinely, unironically want to discuss Saten, then you have my condolences that she's more known for the anime and primarily used for spam.

I suggest you make your own image board. Download Wakaba and make Satenchan. Or hell, go to /c/. I'm sure they'd love a thread about her, and you can discuss the character all you like without the meta drama.

>> No.9071499,77 [INTERNAL] 

Bottom line is if you want to discuss you light novels, don't start the thread with an anime screencap, don't start the thread with any kind of whining at all, and don't let the thread turn into anime discussion.

It's not that hard.

>> No.9071499,78 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,77
But you know, it might just be easier to discuss light novels in /a/ if you find your threads being deleted constantly or derailed into anything other than the LN discussion you made them for.

>> No.9071499,79 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,77
"Don't let people derail your thread, otherwise the spergcommander will delete it."

Big one, grat one xD

>> No.9071499,80 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,68
>Stop using "people", "we" and "/jp/" like you reprsented the whole board, you sound like zunbar.
I don't know if you were acting like a retard for the sole purpose of infuriating people, but the post I was replying to did exactly the same thing you're pointing out, except even more authoritatively, and you didn't flip a shit about that.

>Touhou is less relevant than Saten.
Regardless of what the rules actually say, this claim is simply not true in practice or in anyone's serious valuation since nobody at any point in the 4chan hierarchy from moot all the way down to your average /b/tard believes it.

>> No.9071499,81 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,80
>and you didn't flip a shit about that.
It obviously concerns the other post as well (I haven't read it though). I'm not "attacking" you personally, nerd.

>> No.9071499,82 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,81
>I haven't read it though.
That explains a lot.

>> No.9071499,83 [INTERNAL] 

Help, help! I'm being oppressed!

It's difficult to sympathize with your cause when there are threads like >>9082037 every season. They're not related to the board and there never will be a space for it.

Go to the other boards, there is /c/ and /a/ for your character idolatry. Don't force your preferences on the board. Ask around, most people don't care about this situation or Saten. There are some that are upset with it and other assorted spam. And there's you, the obsessed with keeping /jp/ as your playground to post what you like.
How could anyone take you seriously when you claim with a straight face that Saten is more related to the board than touhou.

There's a place for your Saten threads. It is not here.
>>>/c/

>> No.9071499,84 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,82
What exactly does it explain?

>> No.9071499,85 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,75
>Shmup characters are fine because shmups are /jp/-related.
Where do you find these unwritten rules?

>>9071499,77
>>9071383 met all three criteria (that illustration is actually from the light novel, not the manga). Still deleted.

>>9071499,80
>Don't force your preferences on the board.
Those that don't want Saten threads are in the minority. When Saten threads are left alone, they max out in a matter of days (compare with, say, those month-long Rika threads, which by the way are generally filled with anime screencaps). It is you that is forcing your unpopular preferences on the board.

>How could anyone take you seriously when you claim with a straight face that Saten is more related to the board than touhou.
I'm just repeating the rules. Do you deny the fact that Touhou is a video game? Do you deny the fact that most video games without heavy VN influence are forbidden on /jp/? Touhou is an exception to the rule, but obviously the majority of the board likes it. So I won't be like you and voice my unpopular opinion that "it doesn't belong here, take it to the video game boards, stop using /jp/ as your personal playground to post unrelated content!"

And if you say character idolatry belongs on /c/, then we might as well shut down /jp/. Whether it's Railgun, Touhou, Idolmaster or those 3D idols, /jp/ is all about idolatry.

>>9071499,74
You might be right. It's sad, but there seems to be no chance of me convincing some of these people that light novels belong on the light novel board.

>> No.9071499,86 [INTERNAL] 

>Those that don't want Saten threads are in the minority.
Well, we're done here. You're clearly delusional if you think you're the majority in this issue.

>> No.9071499,87 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,85
If >>9071383 was so determined to have a serious light novel thread, he should have used a picture that wasn't of a character spammed for two years.

Though this is exactly the sort of drama he wanted, so I guess he wins.

>> No.9071499,88 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,85
>Those that don't want Saten threads are in the minority.

Like cock sucking threads, right?

>> No.9071499,89 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,86
Only you care about Saten.
Do you really think people get mad whenever they see a Saten thread? I'm pretty sure nobody gives a shit about a Saten thread drown in a pool of 20 which 2hu fuck threads.

>> No.9071499,90 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,89
I also care, and apparently a lot of people do:
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/?task=search&search_text=saten+spam

If you want quality threads like >>8684871, go to /a/ or /c/. Nobody's stopping you from doing this and it will benefit yourself a lot more.

Waiting warmly for an official word from the staff, so that you guys can move onto the next trolling gimmick.

>> No.9071499,91 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,90
>If you want quality threads like
The hell are you talking about?
I'm telling you that I don't care about saten. The same way I don't care about touhou spam. Or other harmless threads I don't like.

>> No.9071499,92 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,91
No such thing as a harmless thread. These threads are a particular nuisance because in 2010-11 they would often take up multiple pages. Not sure if the original Saten spammer is still around, but allowing ex-spam because some trolls decided they like it is just asking for the same to happen again and again.

>> No.9071499,93 [INTERNAL] 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precautionary_principle

>> No.9071499,94 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,92
>These threads are a particular nuisance because in 2010-11 they would often take up multiple pages.

This never happened with Saten. It's happened (and still happening) with Touhou, it's happened with Chie, it's happened with pigs and puddi, but Saten has never, ever been spammed on /jp/. But keep trying to revise history in order to keep something you personally don't like (yet is still /jp/ related) off the board.

>> No.9071499,95 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,94
>Saten has never, ever been spammed on /jp/.

Oh shit you're right, my bad.

>> No.9071499,96 [INTERNAL] 

http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/image/BGPfVQD7SP_1Ds4lwB_5RQ
http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/image/eBjf9TzPdjPmLFQZxaGPQg

We already had this discussion earlier this month (>>8952562) Exactly the same thing

And this is all that happens when you get a thread for Saten >>8922656
Another thread just like this one for a different spam series >>9083112
Let's check a Light Novel thread with no Saten >>9073416

I can't be the only one that sees a pattern here. You might claim that there is no harm in allowing them, but as I see it it's letting a small group of people treat /jp/ as their playground and I'm tired of having to tolerate you.
You don't want to discuss the Light Novels, that's pretty obvious. If Saten threads is what you want, you have other places to do it peacefully. Not here.

>> No.9071499,97 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,84
It explains why you would pounce on me for using a term that had an entirely logical reason for being used in context.

>>9071499,85
I was delighted to see that you had linked my post, and then utterly crushed to see that you responded to a different post again. Please respond.

>> No.9071499,98 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,97
>It explains why you would pounce on me for using a term that had an entirely logical reason for being used in context.
There's no reason to make generalizations like that. You are not /jp/, I am not /jp/, saten haters aren't /jp/, flanfly lovers aren't /jp/, etc.

And I already told you, I didn't read the other post before replying, if I did, I would have quoted it along your post.

>> No.9071499,99 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,98
>You are not /jp/
Didn't say that.

>I am not /jp/
Didn't say that.

>saten haters aren't /jp/
Didn't say that.

>flanfly lovers aren't /jp/
Didn't say that.

>I didn't read the other post before replying
And I already told you, that explains a lot.

>> No.9071499,100 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,99
>Didn't say that.
Didn't say, but implied.

>that explains a lot.
Same amount of implication here, again.

Keep up the good act.

>> No.9071499,101 [INTERNAL] 

>u r a faget
>no u

We're done here

>> No.9071499,102 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,99
>99,99
Sick quads

>> No.9071499,103 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,96
Don't be such an autist. If I were to 'spam' a similar image of Reimu with similar text, does that mean legitimate Touhou threads that happen to open with a legitimate image of Reimu should be deleted? Of course not. And the janitor would never do that.

But a legitimate light novel thread that has a legitimate light novel image which happens to contain Saten should be deleted? Just because a handful of shitposters use a select number of images of her when shitposting?


>And this is all that happens when you get a thread for Saten
How can you even post that with a straight face? The OP image isn't even a picture of Saten, it's an anime screencap of some girl. And most of the images in the thread aren't even images of Saten. The thread mainly consists of Zunbar and the like shitposting. Here is a perfectly fine, actual Saten thread: http://fuuka.warosu.org/jp/thread/S8587462

>Another thread just like this one for a different spam series
Not even relevant at all. Just some textless thread with people posting anime screencaps and shit. Much the same if someone were to make a textless thread with a random image of Saber, and people just kept posting screencaps from the FSN anime. Would that make legitimate Saber or FSN threads deserving of deletion? Of course not.

>Let's check a Light Novel thread with no Saten
The only reason that thread is still alive is because I had been bumping it. And either way, notice how the Janitor deletes the shit posts in the thread. That's what he should've done for the other one instead of deciding to delete it after a measly 5 posts.

>> No.9071499,104 [INTERNAL] 

You're grasping at straws Sakura. Doesn't help that your kind tried to derail that PV thread earlier. You're probably responsible for a number of anonymous shitposts too, all the while pretending to be decent while posting under a tripcode.

>> No.9071499,105 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,104
You are mistaking him with Zunbar I think.

>> No.9071499,106 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,103
>Don't be such an autist. If I were to 'spam' a similar image of Reimu with similar text, does that mean legitimate Touhou threads that happen to open with a legitimate image of Reimu should be deleted? Of course not. And the janitor would never do that.
Hey, it's happened with specific pictures (or specific types of pictures).

I agree with >>9071499,104 though. I really like you as a poster, but your attitude towards Saten threads is baffling. She's a manga character popularized by an anime and used for spamming/trolling. If you are a genuine Saten fan who just happened to have unfortunate taste, go to /c/ where you can avoid all this. Hell, I'll join you.

Obviously if you want to discuss Index, that's fine. Make an Index thread. I'll join in on that too.

>> No.9071499,107 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,104
PV thread? PV as in Promotional Video? Not sure what you're talking about. And just so you know, I rarely browse /jp/ and post in random threads. I usually just sit in VN, galge, LN threads. Ever since the update to 4chan though, the thread autorefresher in 4chanx hasn't been working properly for me orz.

>>9071499,106
I'm not a Saten fan. I just don't like seeing light novel threads get deleted. And it annoys me when the excuse for its deletion is that it had an image of Saten in the OP. So much other shit gets allowed, even when they have obvious anime screencaps in the OP. If the Janitor in the future does not delete LN threads, I don't have a problem.

>> No.9071499,108 [INTERNAL] 

1. Create a false LN thread with Saten
2. Samefag posts
If thread is deleted by the moderation team, then:
3. Bitch/spam about "oppression"
if not, and somehow thread takes off to hundreds of replies, then:
4.Delete thread using the delete function
5.Go to step 3

>> No.9071499,109 [INTERNAL] 

You should try the IRC for complaints. If you're in the right timezone you can get same-hour response times.

>> No.9071499,110 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,104
>>9071499,108
You figured it out, it's all a big conspiracy done by one or two people! I wish 4chan IPs were public, you conspiracy theorists would see that there are a ton of people here participating in Saten threads. Heavens forbid, she might even be more popular than certain Touhous!

>> No.9071499,111 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,107
>I just don't like seeing light novel threads get deleted.

You honestly think "It's time for a Saten-san megathread!" is a "light novel thread"?

>> No.9071499,112 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,100
>Didn't say, but implied.
That's a conclusion you might have come to if you didn't read the post I was responding to, which you didn't, which we've been over at least three times now.

>Keep up the good act.
Keep acting like a retard.

>> No.9071499,113 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,110
I can recognize you from those threads by the way you abuse the exclamation mark.

>> No.9071499,114 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,112
>which you didn't
What would have changed? Nothing. You both are making generalizations and treating /jp/ as your own personal special place.

>> No.9071499,115 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,114
>What would have changed?
Read it and find out. It would take you significantly less effort than making the series of troll responses you are - but that wouldn't be as fun for you, I guess.

>> No.9071499,116 [INTERNAL] 

As a scientific experiment, I have just made two threads. Both are reposts with fan art, one based on a Touhou character, one based on a light novel character.

Touhou:
>>9091507

LN:
>>9091543

At the time of writing, both threads are intact (though the Touhou thread had a bit of a headstart due to flood detection). Let's see what happens.

>> No.9071499,117 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,116
One is spam, the other is directly related to the board. You keep pushing this "touhou is not /jp/" thing but it only makes you look even more ridiculous

>> No.9071499,118 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,115
>Read it and find out.
Nothing will change the fact that you make generalizations about what "/jp/" likes or doesn't like. Nothing.

>> No.9071499,119 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,117
Quite the opposite, in fact. I love Touhou and I love Patchouli. I also love light novels and love Saten. Both are board-related.

Predictably, the Saten one was deleted almost instantly.

>> No.9071499,120 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,117
His touhou thread is as shitty as the saten thread. That's probably the point of the experience. Yet, as long as you post a touhou, repost or not, stale wording or not, chances are, you'll be safe.

>> No.9071499,121 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,119
Gee, I fucking wonder why.

>> No.9071499,122 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,121
Please, explain why.

Even if it's the awful spam you make it out to be, actual spam like Flanfly is reposted thousands of times and now accepted.

>> No.9071499,123 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,118
I don't know who you're quoting when you say "/jp/," because it isn't me. Stop making shit up.

>> No.9071499,124 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,113
That would be pretty impressive, but doubtful. Unless you count this one, I actually very rarely post in Saten threads. I haven't made a single post in any of the half-dozen Saten threads we've had today (although I did post in a Biribiri thread). I am genuinely curious about how many Railgun fans we have here.

>> No.9071499,125 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,119
>I love Touhou and I love Patchouli
I can tell lies with a straight face too.

>> No.9071499,126 [INTERNAL] 

Just a friendly reminder that /jp/ was made specifically for Touhou spam.

>> No.9071499,127 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,126
That's not true. Touhou isn't /jp/-related at all.

>> No.9071499,128 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,127
>I am not going to make /vn/, /fig/, /touhou/ or whatever other flavor of the month boards you guys constantly request. /jp/ will be a catch-all for things that lack a board

Quoting moot.

>> No.9071499,129 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,128
Should've quoted the /jp/ sticky instead.

> This is for general Japanese things/images and discussion. This [unfortunately] includes figurines, visual novels, Touhou, etc.

>> No.9071499,130 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,111
I thought it was obvious that I was referring to the thread that was deleted a few days ago, which sparked all this ghost jerking.

>>9071499,126
It wasn't made specifically for Touhou, it was made for numerous things, amongst which, Touhou was one. Touhou is as relevant to /jp/ as light novels are. Touhou characters are as relevant to /jp/ as light novel characters are.

>> No.9071499,131 [INTERNAL] 

``I only watched railgun because it was spammed so much. Kind of funny.''
-- Sakura

>> No.9071499,132 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,131
True story. Like when people would always make Umineko threads, or spam other things, I'd eventually try them.

>> No.9071499,133 [INTERNAL] 

131 Replies

What the fuck guys.

That almost rhymed, LOL

>> No.9071499,134 [INTERNAL] 

Also Raildex faggots, please leave. You guys are just as bad as Narutards.

>> No.9071499,135 [INTERNAL] 

Just ban iluvop's trip. He's responsible for most of of the saten spam.

And while you're at it, set that one kuroko spam image's MD5 to autoban too.

>> No.9071499,136 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,135
But that takes effort!

>> No.9071499,137 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,135
Why are you telling us this? Do you think that the mods browse /ghost/?

>> No.9071499,138 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,137
Mods probably not, but the janitor was a regular poster at one point--why wouldn't he? Of course he can't do these things himself, but janitors apparently keep regular contact with the mods and moot. He could pass the suggestion on.

>> No.9071499,139 [INTERNAL] 

>>9071499,138
All he does is cry to the mods requesting bans when someone posts things he does not like. What makes you think the mods would want to help him? He's a faggot.

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