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23372951 No.23372951 [Reply] [Original]

Every other science presupposes the intelligence as already complete; the philosopher observes it in its genesis, and brings it into being, so to speak, before his eyes.

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>> No.23373836

>>23373798
A character cannot be something it is not, so tautologically things are confined to themselves, or better, represent themselves as what they are, recursively. A-priority follows from the fact that its proper knowledge does not need to be tested, verified, checked more than once, whenever it is realized. Its temporal character is thus empty, adds nothing to the knowledge, which is what it is regardless of before and/or after. As analogy, we do not need to have in mind every single piece of knowledge we have, whatever its kind, empirical, mathematical, in order to have knowledge of it, we do not need to remind ourselves every second of our life that 8 = 1 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 1 in order to be able to assert this knowledge as actual. Induction is necessary on phenomenal, sensual side of experience, and this is why it is just as confused, not certain, even though we have usefulness from them.

>> No.23373873

>>23373810
I can tell you what I have acquired over the years, induction itself has flaws, if you want to go after it in a vacuum that is perfectly fine, it is usually always a one outcome spectacle via 2 routes, nihilism through triviality or scepticism. If you want to make claims another claim is wrong then do so, everyone is drawing from the same well, if you have a noteworthy claim then by all means make it, everyone is drawing from the same well. If you want to use the criticism of induction as a means of argument against someone's claim with no other purpose or merit, then I have found the best remedy is take no prisoners. I honestly don't know how popular the approach is, but I know it works. There are no tricks on my end, I already admit it is flawed, I asked for purely induction free thinking knowing I do not technically possess it, I have already had to deal with quantifier shifters and all other sorts of mischief before, I have no tricks to pull, I already came to grips with it. But I can tell you if it is tolerated in an actively malicious way by even one person then the whole well becomes poisoned for everyone. My tolerance is pretty high, I might even go so far as to say I would just accept the fatal dose if I had to, if only because logic demanded it of me. But if it can be rooted out, it is no different than excising a tumor before it spreads. Regardless of what you think of me, wherever you are, even if I am completely shunned here, if it is tolerated in an active and malicious way, you are allowing the well you drink from to be poisoned, not just mine, everyone.

>> No.23373887

>>23373768
>The only person in this thread who has provided a priori knowledge to me said we all know nothing and have to learn the rest.
I already told you reread >>23373650
becsuse that's not what I said. You either can not understand or choose not to understand because it invalidates your beliefs.

>> No.23373892

>>23373873
I'm not sure this well exists, or what is in there is so pure as we might think. Maybe what we drink can be impure to the degree that some of our organs ache, but not to the degree that it can kill us. Perhaps at this point we have created a super natural resistance.

>> No.23373894

>>23373768
>a priori knowledge, we all know nothing
what???
>a priori knowledge, we have to learn
what??????



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23372884 No.23372884 [Reply] [Original]

btw, please strive to write this book anon. I would be first in line to read it.

>> No.23372897

It doesn't need to be a slice of life. I'm more interested in the tone and fantastical elements of the premise.



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23372862 No.23372862 [Reply] [Original]

Will is the thing-in-itself, the inner content, the essence of the world. Life, the visible world, the phenomenon, is only the mirror of the will.

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23373386

>>23372862
Why is this as blue if I mouse clicked it?

>> No.23373401

Dumb question: is Schopenhauer's will the same as the will-to-live?

>> No.23373427

>>23373401
why yes, yes it is

>> No.23373495

>>23372862
Nothingness is the thing-in-itself and life is a picture you paint out of boredom.

>> No.23373502

>>>/r9k/philosophy



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23372837 No.23372837 [Reply] [Original]

Idk if ADHD is a modern thing, but it's killing me. How did they do it in the past? Was it medition? Some particular food they eat or drank? Or was it their lifestyle? How did they gain such discipline? I don't want to take prescription drugs, because they are not easily available, and I'm worried about addiction and withdrawal.

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>> No.23373986

>>23372837
>Was it medition? Some particular food they eat or drank? Or was it their lifestyle? How did they gain such discipline?
It's literally a discipline you learn implicitly in a world with no social media, 4 tv channels or no TV at all, no instant gratification.

Most millenials and zoomed who think they have adhd do not have it, they have been failed by their parents who used tech as baby sitters, and they need to learn to sit down, do nothing, and appreciate being bored.

>> No.23374001

>>23372837
>if ADHD is a modern thing,

there have been stimulants for more than a hundred years now. most of the writers in the 20th century were using benzedrine

also some were using cocaine (freud and steven king famously)

>> No.23374126

>>23372845
Lmao are you zoomer born in the internet era, before social media exploded, people watched tv and even that got boring because your favourite shows only came in weekly and at night when everyone was at home, the rest of the time, there was no reason to stay inside the house because it got boring fast. Even the most antisocial people would find a reason to be outside or to dedicate their time to something more productive.

>> No.23374146

>>23372837
Dopamine saturation. If your brain exists, and particularly if it develops, in an environment of high stimulation, it adapts to this standard and begins to expect this high level of stimulation. Thus it becomes uncomfortable to spend long periods of time in a low stimulation activity like reading or writing. If you look at modernity, there is super stimulation everywhere, neon lights, sugary food and drink, graphic pornography, abundant alcohol and other intoxicants, cheap high octane entertainment everywhere, and on and on. Unironically take walks daily, meditate, and try to live in subtle tranquility as much as possible and eschew the prompts of the 21st century world.

>> No.23374248

>live in the 1800s
>if you want to listen to music you have to go to church
>if you want to see a tropical beach you have to risk your life on a boat for 8 months or more
>you're excited about getting the mail each day and you pray you get a letter from your cousin who speaks so candidly because that's your main form of entertainment
>your entire life starts at your parents home and ends 10 miles from there in any direction
No. People did not have ADD back then. You cannot even begin to fathom how different life was back then.



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23372833 No.23372833 [Reply] [Original]

Is leaving with the elves a metaphor for passing away?

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>> No.23373475

>>23372990
do you think frodo was stupid enough to be manipulated into thinking his shitty life and all its suffering was some sort of "test" by a silent higher being

>> No.23373666

>>23373475
He had a great life, all things considered. He becomes the most famous Hobbit to ever live and ends up going to Elf Valhalla.

>> No.23373767

>>23372833
The end of LOTR is the first time I cried reading a book. I was 10 at the time. I couldn't understand why Frodo was so cruel to leave his friend Sam behind. After all they went through I was expecting them to go back to their comfy Shire life.
I suppose Tolkien had the underlying idea that Frodo had PTSD and just killed himself.

>> No.23373800

>>23373666
>the most famous Hobbit to ever live
It's a vain pursuit that wouldn't make anyone happy
>ends up going to Elf Valhalla.
That's having a great death, not a great life. But yeah if his shitty live was a ticket for the immortality of his soul, many hobbits would probably have done the journey. Maybe that's what Tolkien wanted to show us? Let's endure life as if it's a ticket for heaven.

>> No.23374052

>>23373800
>It's a vain pursuit that wouldn't make anyone happy
He was more than happy just to be back at the shire, but all of his earthly wealth brought him no lasting joy, so he ascended metaphysically. That journey is the mark of a full life.
>ticket for heaven
Frodo didn 't do it to get to heaven, he destroyed the ring because he knew it was the right thing to do and was ultimately rewarded for it. If you give selflessly, you might just receive much in return, unexpectedly.



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23372827 No.23372827 [Reply] [Original]

What are some recently released books that I can really sink my teeth in. By recent, I mean within the last two years or in the past months.



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23372811 No.23372811 [Reply] [Original]

Books for this feel?

>No strong ties to almost anything, don't really care about race, religion, nation, sex/gender or creed
>Feels like they don't have a personality
>Extreme moral uneveness, tendency for odd crimes, occasionally altrustic
>Agitated, feels the need to move and doesn't like to be seen or touched
>Fantasies of being powerful
>Doesn't talk much, prefers to listen

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>> No.23372900

>>23372811
write about what you know. (mommy and daddy issues being all they know)

>> No.23374020

>>23372874
from korean comic Killing Stalking,
its homo yandere fantasies, really hot desu

>> No.23374028

I feel like i relate to the mommy issues thing. my mom died when i was 6, what are the likely effects of this. can i attribute my depression and mysogyny/need of constant approval from women to this?

>> No.23374049

>>23372811
There are no books for that. You sound like you're describing a Bethesda games RP character

>> No.23374165

>>23372811
Kokoro by Natsume Soseki



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23372808 No.23372808 [Reply] [Original]

why does this reads like fanfic? is the cartoon sex? got a similar feeling from Atomised, and from Murakami in general, with the exception being Wind-Up Bird Chronicle.

so far Michel Houellebecq is just Chuck Palahniuk for horny man instead of edgy teens.

>> No.23374022

>>23372808
I don't know I haven't read it yet.



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23372797 No.23372797 [Reply] [Original]

I’m getting jew vibes from his character

>> No.23372816

Valerians are Jewish including Baratheons, Jon, Bloodraven/Bran, Tyrion + Davos/David and Samwell/GRRM. White walkers, Lannisters, Starks – Gentile/Aryan

>> No.23373112

>"I'm getting jew vibes" --retarded 12 year old who has literally never left his basement and consumed nothing but a steady diet of online propaganda pamphlets from the one place on the internet he feels comfortable visiting as it does not require any sort of intellectual, emotional, or hygienic investment

>> No.23373270

>>23372797
NO BALLS!!!

>> No.23373458

>>23372797
The spider is CIA.

>> No.23373669

>>23373458
So a turbo-Jew?



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23372788 No.23372788 [Reply] [Original]

Has anybody read all the expanse books?
I read the first 3, but back when the show was running people claimed in the threads the later books were boring as fuck?
I'm thinking about picking the book series up again and reading them all.
There are 9 books now and one with short stories, they cant all be bad right?



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23372783 No.23372783 [Reply] [Original]

What book had the most effect on your ability to live a better life?

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>> No.23373044

>>23372783
the very hungry caterpillar

>> No.23373142

>>23373044
Based

>> No.23373173

>>23372783
Infinite Jest.

>> No.23373178

>>23372802
Based and wgmi pilled

>>23372831
Based slave pilled

>>23372909
Inflexible mind pilled, shiggydiggy

>>23373173
kek, kys

For me, it's the 48 Laws of Power

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23372780 No.23372780 [Reply] [Original]

That is all He ever was.
We all know we aren't going anywhere after we die. Sheer and permanent oblivion is all that awaits us.

Baddiel is right.

>> No.23372803

This book will be forgotten in 200 years

>> No.23374183

>>23372780
It's really going to suck when you die and find out you're wrong. Heh heh heh.



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23372772 No.23372772 [Reply] [Original]

I wish I had money for a more spacious home. My shitty small apartment can realistically hold only 1000 books before it enters into hoarder territory.

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>> No.23373063

>>23372921
Ah, the poor man's cope

>> No.23373152

>>23372921
Basé

>> No.23373170

I just get rid of the stuff I don't consider worth keeping. Shitty public domain paperback works that I don't want? Used bookstore takes them in on store credit towards more books.

There's always a way. Otherwise, you learn to really filter your shit out. Is it scarce? Is it in a nice edition? Do you really want to keep it? Etc.

>> No.23373416

I don't know, I like the look of a small space completely filled with books. Overflowing bookshelves, books piled on tables, windowsills, whatever free space is available

>> No.23373433

>>23372921
You mean your poor lmfao loser.



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23372769 No.23372769 [Reply] [Original]

I got a First Class in my English Literature Degree. Now what?

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>> No.23372799

Minimum wage data entry.
t. BA 1st and MA Distinction Eng Lit

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>>23372769

>> No.23372817

>>23372769
Now you submit job applications to Starbucks then spend the next 15-20 years of your life paying all your surplus income to paying off the interest on your student loans.

>> No.23372993

>>23372769
>now what?
Retard, you're supposed to have post-graduation plans after you graduate. Enjoy working a random min-wage job unrelated to your degree for a year while you do what you should've been doing this last year at college.

>> No.23374085

Congrats you were the best rule following monkey in the class, you are not creative enough to find new rules and break old ones so you will fit right into the current status quo editing club that insists writers today should only use third person limited, include dei and other retarded female reader-simping rules that this club enforces.



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23372762 No.23372762 [Reply] [Original]

éditions Gallimard is printing Simulations et Simulacres. arriving 16 june. a heads up to francophone anons.
this is nice since the éditions galilée print costs 125 dollars.

>> No.23372872

>>23372762
Unfathomably epic. That this thread has gone half an hour with no reply indicates the depths to which this board has sunk. You can't call this a literature board without a substantial Francophone population.

>> No.23373008

>>23372872
I already have an older edition but of course you'll filter most people with that OP.

>> No.23373365

>>23372872
> pseud
> diacritics
> easily triggered
buy some astroturf and touch it, poseur

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23373366

>>23372762
Parfait! C'est gentlil.



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23372761 No.23372761 [Reply] [Original]

Any books about consistently failing poets/artists?

>> No.23372787

basically all richard yates

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23372742 No.23372742 [Reply] [Original]

Where do I purchase edgy books like Mein Kampf or the Turner Diaries? Preferably without being put on a list.

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23373205

>>23373176
The fact you're trying to cope show how close to home it hits you. He put that sticker on the car to own the libs. Does it hurt your feelings when people point out you look like that?

>> No.23373208

>>23373205
>He put that sticker on the car to own the libs
He put a Hilary Clinton sticker (cropped out of the picture) to own the libs? Making about as much sense as the holocaust there buddy
>Does it hurt your feelings when people point out you look like that?
I don't think I look all that similar to the liberal Jew Patrick Crusius which the chud drawings are based off

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>>23372742
>Where do I purchase edgy books like Mein Kampf or the Turner Diaries? Preferably without being put on a list.
Lmao you think you're the first edgelord to buy these books? If you really want the feds on your ass, you need to read actual unconventional shit that'll catch eyes, like drug manuals, military handbooks, weapons assembly guides, survivalist guides, handbooks for guerrilla warfare, and travel books of popular American cities if you really wanna scare them.

>> No.23373624

>>23373520
You can download any army field manual you want

>> No.23374084 [DELETED] 

>>23373520
Honestly, you should end up on a watch list for publicizing the fact that guys books exist. One of the only series of books I think should be banned and burned.



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23372730 No.23372730 [Reply] [Original]

Outside of the obvious like John Locke, what other writings do you think influenced the American Founding Fathers on their late 18th century view around freedom and liberty as concepts. I'm looking for more niche writings preferably.

>> No.23374264

>>23372730
Idk but Ben Franklin said to emulate Jesus and Socrates.



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23372669 No.23372669 [Reply] [Original]

Where should I start with this guy?

>> No.23372693

Either/Or, then Fear and Trembling

>> No.23372696

it's Søren* and The Lily of the Field and the Bird of the Air

>> No.23372711

I read Fear and Trembling and didn't understand any of it, don't start there

>> No.23372714

>>23372669
My word, making mention of a start? Does this Danish fellow use induction?

>> No.23372752

Sickness unto Death



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23372662 No.23372662 [Reply] [Original]

When I stick my nose deep into philosophy, despite everything making logical sense, there’s always a feeling of doubt and skepticism about it all. Like reason and logic and metaphysics is all mental masturbation.

Anyways, what are your thoughts on the critique of pure reason?

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>> No.23373501

Philosophy is science pre-science. Critically, without testing its theories against reality, the thing that makes science science instead of just mental masturbation. So yeah, it's basically religion but for fedoras. Most of it is so dumb it makes your brain hurt that people take it seriously. At its most honesty and rigorous, its conclusion is always "I dunno?"
May as well be arguing over which star trek alien fired the first shot in their fictional alien civil war, it's equally as rooted in reality.

>> No.23374032

Logical consistency is a low bar. When you look at widely held philosophical positions, they are all internally logically consistent even though they contradict each ither.

>> No.23374042

>>23372662
It's all bullshit. Just a handful of Platonic and Aristotelian concepts that are renamed every twenty years. Academics love capitalizing on recapitulation.

>> No.23374196

>>23372662
Does it matter?

>> No.23374234

>>23372662
i only give a shit about things i can observe. it has served me well after 20 years of fruitless moral and antimoral posturing. the super or extranatural musings are pointless contrivances that pollute the mind, and I dont have time for it anymore. I am concerning myself with securing a future for my family. I can sit around and think of bullshit when my body is old and worn