/lit/ - Literature

I don’t want to be a pleb anymore. Women, partying, working, family, entertainment, etc, etc, all of the things that capture the attention of the masses has no effect on me. I want to go off on an adventure like Marco Polo, or conquer land like Genghis Khan. I want to board a big, rickety ship and sail to the end of the world. I WANT TO LIVE

>>23394083
What are the best versions of these stories for a pleb like me who can't read anything older than 1850. Give me an accessible modernized retelling

>>23392099
no hard fast rule
But life is too short to waste time on pleb writing
(If it's Faulkner or Joyce I never pick the book up)

>>23396343
Nope, it's impossible to understand philosophy and history and then to read something like de interpretatione and not understand that Aristotle is a transcendent genius. plus cicero said Aristotle's dialogues were better than Plato so you only think plato mogs because you're a pleb who can only detect drama and Ari's dialogues don't survive.

>can appear cultured and knowledgeable on a wide variety of literature to the average pleb
whats the point of that?

Is there anything more pleb than reading books in the original language?
>jealous monoglots can only read books in the original language
>patrician polyglots like myself can read the works of Goethe in French, the masterpieces of Proust in the superior Russian, Chinese and Japanese works in the opposite language, etc., opening up new vistas of interpretation and understanding
I tried reading a book in the original language once, just to see what it's like being a pleb, and it was a suffocating and nauseous experience. I pity those for whom there is no other option.

Too bad the average pleb doesn't give a shit about books. When you begin to express your sophisticated opinions about Call of the Crocodile, they'll just laugh at you and say "What a nerd. Who tf reads books?"

>be me
>casually browse /lit/ for years
>don’t actually read
>absorb the major plot points and common discussion topics of popular novels and philosophic texts
>can appear cultured and knowledgeable on a wide variety of literature to the average pleb
>claim to hate television and netflix and read books instead like a real intellectual (I only watch streaming slop and old sitcoms)
>don’t have to sit through thousand page tomes wasting my life away
Your move, /lit/.

>>23387296
Yeah, I think the nogs have done a lot of damage too, but I see the decline in quality of literature as linked to the passing of the old European arostocracies and upper bourgeoisie (considering that the upper classes are in general more intelligent and enlightened than the average pleb).
They have been succeeded by an upper class of materialist industrialist billionaires (Bezos, Musk) who don't care about culture, they just want to produce.
There is no going back because the type of humans that produced the culture from 70 years ago has basically gone extinct.
The materialist industrialist species like are Musk and Bezos will soon go extinct too, and after them society is going to get even shittier on the planet.

>>23385654
I grew up in some 'prosperous' Western European state. Went to a school full of shitskins and immigrant filth. I never had any sort of prejudice and it has only brought me misfortune. Now I know better and genuinely think of those people as useless trash. Filthy, disgusting, born to be criminal low class sons of a bitch nigger pleb cattle filth who seem somewhat decent because the state gibs them education and a good job.
Glad I moved away.
Piece of shit apes. I blocked contact with all my former filthy brown 'friends'.
The natural virtue of the white man is tolerance.
Experience made me hate and despise brown people.

A lonely, noble soul frustrated that everyone he comes across is a pleb concerned only with their monotonous day to day lives and reacting with hostility or confusion at suggestions there's more to life than that
He's a very sympathetic character, though admittedly obnoxious at times

Also interesting how his 'girlfriend' Myrna was a jewess fixated on pushing social progressivism, race mixing and other revolutionary ideas
Did Toole know about certain things?

>>23379768
And Kierkegaard filters another pleb. How many are your slain o' beast of Denmark?

>>23378755
antoher day, another pleb being filtered by Wolfe
I live for this shit

>>23380697
>not reading Justine to your daughter as a bedtime story
pleb

>>23381381
The show is a boiled down collection of central themes for the average pleb who doesn’t have the capability of reading a 1,400 page book. I don’t hate the musical but it doesn’t compare with the beauty of the full story.

Jews don't control anything. Their period of vigour and potency dates back to the times of David and Abraham in the Bible. They can only have degenerated ever since, and as we know, degenerates can't mantain power. I relentlessly count them with the pleb cattle masses.

>>23377972
If you don't like and appreciate chess you might be a pleb.

>>23377978
Lovely.

Intellectuals are bad, okay? What! But you’re so smart, aren’t you an intellectual? Aren’t you interested in ideas, and philosophy, and literature and… NO! You misunderstand. It’s very easy to be an intellectual, you start with a fundamental axiom or idea (just assume it’s true) and then you expand on the idea by writing books and essays. The next step is sitting in Parisian cafes and salons smoking cigarettes and having other people puff you up. “Wow, he’s so deep… the substructure of the integrand and bersurgundsweitsheish… at last I see…” Now with the patina of age and enough very smart and serious critics proclaiming your genius, congratulations! You’re an intellectual!

I said to start with a fundamental axiom or idea, but note, I did not say, start with a true one. All or most of the true ideas have been discovered, all of the low hanging fruit has been picked by the year 2024. It really takes a once in a century titan like Jung to come around and create an entirely new philosophical system and still be right. Intellectuals just pick an idea they like (not one that is true) and stick with it. “If we were to posit a cheese dimension you see… there is cheese everywhere! It is all around us!” But there is no cheese dimension… “Oh, ha, ha, ha, look at the unlearned pleb, look at this pseud! He hasn’t read Grouch’s Treatise on Cheesus. Is it too much for your small brain? Read a book.”

The problem with intellectuals is that 99% of them are full of shit, and often in highly destructive ways—see Karl Marx and John Locke. So intellectualism, being mostly detached from reality, is a typical leftist trait, because leftism in its most general terms is defined as disengagement with reality. When you see leftists decry the right for having “no intellectuals” it is because the right’s intellectuals are all dead. What more needs to be said? The right is the side of poets, because poets do not pontificate about cheese dimensions, but write what they see and feel. It is no mistake that the last great poets, the modernists of the early and mid 20th century, were all extremely right wing.

>>23370496
The demonic tragedy
Small-vagina
Pleb of the mosquitoes
The young woman and the land

>>23364409
Am I a pleb for stopping at chapter four because they kept time skipping and deliberately didn't show us what happened in the radar tower?

>>23363685
I'd say you're the blackest retard gorilla nigger. I mean holy shit, imagine having that pleb tier take.

>>23363564
Agreed, but if tops relative to what was then available, who knows what any (of us) would have done, especially given that the occupational options back then (for a non-pleb) were pretty much farm, fish, or fight.

I prefer the Odyssey. The Iliad has too many filler battles, but it's a great story. You're a huge pleb if you don't appreciate it.

>>23363241
as one of the major themes of the novels go, the elite of the world are soulless internationalists at their core, and theyre literally like a bunch highschool kids trying to fit in to the international elite culture and be trendy and prove themselves according to that metric, and at the time speaking french was a trendy sign of being a cultured person.

the novel plays on this irony throughout the narrative as everyone flip flops on napoleon depending on the diplomatic situation, showing complete inconsistency of beliefs, then France invades and everyone scorns the french while speaking french and following french trends, and eventually, the invasion forces many people to face this irony and many are taken by a nationalist spirit and abandon that internationalist mode of thinking and connect more to their Russian roots, eventually culminating events like the rostovs giving up the last of their wealth to save a bunch of pleb soldiers