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15751563 No.15751563 [Reply] [Original]

Dante is the greatest author, Shakespeare is a close second.

Literally everyone else is a hack

>> No.15751574

>>15751563
Anon, perché non sali 'l dilettoso monte?

>> No.15751583

>>15751563
>rhymes "Christ" with "Christ"

literally rap-tier

>> No.15751585

>>15751563
bost favorite lines from Dante

>> No.15751586

psued thread

>> No.15751592

>>15751574
With that said, Corneille and Racine are better than Shakes for tragedies (ie excluding the histories, comedies and the sonnets).

>> No.15751600

>>15751563
can modern italianos read dante?

>> No.15751604
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15751604

Has anyone read Dante's other stuff, his Latin essays on linguistics and politics and other poems? Is it any good?

>> No.15751613

>>15751563
Dante is an angry retard who couldn't cope with being kicked out of Florence because of his lek incompetence.

>> No.15751614

>>15751604
Yes Il convivio is great. De eloquentia vulgaris only excerpts so idk but it's been influental I reckon.

>> No.15751623

>>15751583
Did he do that every single time? I can't be 100% sure, but it feels like he did.

>> No.15751633

>>15751604
that bitch in the red is a total slut what the fuck my eyes.
this should be burned for how fucking vile and depraved it's drawn.

>> No.15751639

>>15751623
No other word is worthy of being associated with such a holy word.

>> No.15751643

>>15751604
I've read his De vulgari eloquentia. Guenon called this the exoteric part of his thought while the Divine Comedy is the esoteric part.

>> No.15751670

>>15751639
So, he did?

>> No.15751703

>>15751633
On the contrary. The woman in red is "Monna Vanna" (vain woman), basically the peak-whore character in one of Dante's other books. The fact that the artist is able to portray this character so well that he invokes in foreign strangers such strong emotion hundreds of years after his death is testament to his great skill and the worthiness of the painting. Let's see you make or do literally anything that people in the year 2200 give a shit about.

>> No.15751719

>>15751703
phew

>> No.15751744

>>15751563
Milton is a better poet than Shakespeare,

>> No.15751779
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>>15751744
Shakespeare: cool, confident, unspoken mastery of all styles of prose and verse, including sonnets and other rhyming schemes of his own invention, as well as unrhymed metrical verse
Milton: pic related

>> No.15751789

>>15751703
What book ?

>> No.15751805

>>15751779
you can just tell that he was seething while he wrote this, in fact almost everything Milton ever wrote bears the mark of a life spent in constant seething

>> No.15751831

>>15751805
i would like to harness this seethe and use it to power my automatic tricycle.

>> No.15751844

>>15751831
seethematics are a burgeoning field anon, most startups are in Poland because of the high amount of natural resources

>> No.15752000

I haven't read Dante yet, but just from my knowledge of his work I can't see how he would be better than Shakespeare. The Bard wrote close to 40 plays, created a vast range of iconic characters, wrote from a vast variety of different viewpoints, touched on the sublime in all of his works, never had to reference past literature in his works, and influenced culture and art to a degree matched only by the Bible.
Dante on the other hand, is known for.. what? A single poem and a few minor works besides? And that single poem seemingly entrenched in catholic religion, with no aspiration beyond.

>> No.15752004

>>15751563
Quote me something from Dante that proves his greatness

>> No.15752037
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15752037

Reminder that the Divine Comedy is a work of Catholic mysticism and Dante should be canonized by the Church.

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>>15751563
How can you say Dante is the greatest author and still all Virgil a hack?

>> No.15752057

>>15751583
BASED

>> No.15752064

>>15751670
idk but if he did that's my explanation for it

>> No.15752068

>>15752004
the lack of Dante quotes in this thread is greatly annoying me

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>>15751563
Cala-te!

>> No.15752084
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*psst*
Don't forget about me.

>> No.15752088
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>>15752068
I can't read Italian

>> No.15753032

>>15751703
Ok Coomer

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>>15752037
you need to pray to Dante, get miracles, and make the case.

>> No.15753139

>>15753107
So does the Catholic Church condone praying to any dead Catholic? To see if they "might" be a saint?

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>>15753139
good question, ask theologians.

>> No.15753155

>>15752000
>the Comedy is just a poem
Shakespeare never wrote such a beautiful architecture as the Comedy.

>> No.15753516

>>15751585
not op but I love
"I turned aside (and leftwards) meaning now, with all the hope and deference of some child that runs when hurt or frightened to its mum,
to say to Virgil: "There is not one gram of blood in me that does not tremble now. I recognise the signs of ancient flame"
But Virgil was not there. Our lack alone was left where once he'd been. Virgil, dear sire, Virgil - to him i'd run to save my soul." - Purgatorio, Canto 30