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Exploring a Desolate City Edition
Previous Thread:>>18346005

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
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>Archive
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

>A link to the ultimate colossal science fiction and fantasy collection torrent.
>>>/t/1023504

>Discord
Never going to be created

>> No.18357027
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18357027

first for xianxia

>> No.18357028

>read MookHyang
>Its about a cultivator that was isekai'ed into magitech fantasy.
Future of webfiction right there

>> No.18357031

>>18357001
based op

>> No.18357038
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18357038

Read Reverend Insanity. Turn away from bakker-cuckoldry.

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>> No.18357057

>>18357038
is it actually well-written though

>> No.18357094

>>18357057
ahahahahahaha

>> No.18357165

Sex Books

>> No.18357170

>>18357165
insert picture of that one sissy book where the black people have taken over

>> No.18357267
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This is a fucking drag to read.

>> No.18357317

So how is the new Cradle book? Just saw it's been released.

>> No.18357325

>>18357267
the only drag is the drag of wind and your pp speeds towards my boipussy

>> No.18357326

>>18357317
Bloodline has been out for almost two months. It wasn't good and was about the opposite you would expect to happen.

>> No.18357335

I love that thrill you get when a book dangles the threat of the protagonist being cucked over your face

>> No.18357342

>>18357048
So is Fagborn just a Star Wars ripoff? Does he have a light saber in his belt?

>> No.18357344

>>18357170
The Darkness That Comes Before?

>> No.18357348

>>18357326
Are you just being pessimistic or is it actually worse than its prequels?

>> No.18357349

>>18357342
The lightsabers are in SA

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>>18357344

>> No.18357363

>>18357326
>>18357317
I'm a bit out of touch. is bloodline directly after the tournament book, or has there been a book in-between?

>> No.18357373

>>18357348
Why ask if you're going to critique any response? Lindon is still an apologetic sniveling annoyance nine books in and most everybody in Sacred Valley who was a piece of shit got away with it.

>>18357363
Uncrowned -> WIntersteel -> Bloodline

>> No.18357378

>>18357373
wouldn't there be too much punching down if lindon took revenge on people in sacred valley at this point?

>> No.18357384

>>18357373
Given how prone everyone here is toward cynisism, I thought I should ask. Still, that's too bad if the book turned out unsatisfying.

>> No.18357386

what are some good female authors that actually play to their strength as a female writer, as in give more insight to female characters or something like that, not just any decent author that also turns out to be female

>> No.18357389

>>18357378
The vast majority of anyone in Sacred Valley tries to betray/kill the main cast at any given opportunity.
The action Lindon performs the MOST in Sacred Valley is apologizing. To goddamn near every group he sees, or any person in a position of power. The thing is that Mercy finally goes through a character arc of realizing that sometimes she has to use her OVERWHELMING POWER to take care of things, yet Lindon doesn't get it.

>> No.18357397

>>18357389
because lindon is right and mercy is wrong

>> No.18357400

>>18357386
>strength
What about male authors that specifically play to their strength of being male?

>> No.18357405

>>18357400
they write about cuckold

>> No.18357407

>>18357405
*cuckoldry

>> No.18357409

>>18357400
autism?

>> No.18357410

>>18357405
then Bakker is the quintessential male writer?

>> No.18357412

>>18357410
of course

>> No.18357418

>>18357386
so you want female authors that write about rape fantasies?

>> No.18357448

>>18357344
kek

>> No.18357460

this thread is a fucking joke

>> No.18357464

>>18357460
so?

>> No.18357471

>>18357460
then why aren't you laughing?

>> No.18357473

>>18357460
This is weebfic and cuckoldry general.

>> No.18357489

I want my fantasy novel to have an analogue for black people so that I can write about how terrible they are but I need it to be subtle enough that most people won't notice what it's supposed to represent. Any ideas?

>> No.18357508

>>18357489
you will fail. if you're so clueless about sociology that your mentality is "blacks bad" then you will also be too clueless to impress that message without readers catching you out.

>> No.18357515

>>18357508
>>18357489
>>18357473
>>18357471
>>18357464
this thread is a sick and stupid joke with no punchline. i mourn for the /sffg/ that once was.

>> No.18357516

>>18357508
You don't have to study sociology to understand basic facts about reality such as this.

>> No.18357521

>>18357508
I mean to be fair, Tolkien's orcs are industrial working mongoloids and nobody ever caught on unless they're some kind of nerds

>> No.18357526

>>18357516
said every wrong person ever

>> No.18357528

>>18357521
have you SEEN the discourse around orcs lately???

>> No.18357529

>>18357515
>*cries in shitalian*

>> No.18357531

>>18357526
>Bro you just have to wear these ideological blinders then you can understand
No thanks

>> No.18357538

the only way to become a good writer is to maintain horse stance

>> No.18357542
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>the battle station of every niggerfaggottranny ITT

>> No.18357541

>>18357531
>understanding statistics
>ideological blinders
you're one of them retards arentcha

>> No.18357545

>>18357538
these kinds of writers are a diamond dozen

>> No.18357549

>>18357542
Of course there is Star Wars art on the wall, and "muh" science backgrounds of space.

>> No.18357551

>>18357541
Sorry but I'm writing from the unique knowledge conferred to me by my lived experience, which trumps any white male academic theories you've crafted. I need you to stop denying my own experiences. Sit down and listen.

>> No.18357552

>>18357542
You're mistaken Sir/Mam/Other, this picture is mine and I'm a Bakkerbuddy

>> No.18357554

>>18357551
wow epic you sure dunked on this imagined strawman that doesn't exist

>> No.18357558

>>18357542
so you're saying they're based

>> No.18357559

>>18357554
I see you still aren't listening. If you're going to deny my life experience then I see you don't care about social justice and equal representation. My voice will be heard.

>> No.18357561

>>18357551
What you don't realize is that my own standpoint as a Person of Color means that you even mentioning "white" puts me in a hostile environment. This reference to academic theories also further proves that you are a person of privilege. You didn't even ask me what I am identifying as before you committed this act of violent retort towards me, thus allowing us to establish a proper relationship of equals, or as I suspect, you as someone with greater power. Sit down. Listen. I exist.

>> No.18357564

/sffag/ - Science fiction, fantasy, & anime general

>> No.18357569

>>18357559
I never said I cared about social justice or equal representation, and people that do believe in that generally don't think someone automatically deserves a voice for being a minority. literally only someone with ideological blinders would think this is a gotcha

>> No.18357575

>>18357564
the anime is implied because it's on 4chan

>> No.18357578

>>18357561
I hate to use this card, but I have a skin disease that renders my skin in the color of a rainbow, which means that I am more of a Person of Color than you. This elevates my voice in the progressive stack and means that I am first to speak. Take a step back.
>>18357569
Shut up racist.

>> No.18357580

>>18357564
you forgot fortnite

>> No.18357584

>>18357569
>he's trying to reason with a /pol/ npc
Do you talk to your computer screen too lmao, this thing is literally going through a series of memes and canned responses

>> No.18357592

>>18357584
I'm very lonely

>> No.18357593

>>18357578
I am sorry for not acknowledging your skin disease when we were establishing our hierarchy of oppression. But you see, dear person of gender I don't know, that you have failed to ask for my age. As such you are assuming I am of equal age of you. This is a big leap, an assumption that I must call out as age oppression. Stop Ageism.

>> No.18357594

>>18357580
>I escaped, Sazed!
>I escaped into Fortnite!

>> No.18357598

>>18357575
>>18357558
>>18357545
>>18357526
>>18357508
>>18357464
>>18357057
>>18357031
kill yourselves tranny reddit animeniggers

>> No.18357606

>>18357598
baste

>> No.18357607

Kneeling Anons encrusted the Thread, all facing the summit, where a savage-looking Shill led them (one of the few yet living, he would later discover), dark face uplifted, hands held to the scalped heavens.
A congregation of those who had refused to forget.
The prayer concluded, and all souls lowered their heads in silence, Anon found himself fending shame for standing so indifferent, so conspicuous. Despite their harrowed and deranged appearance, he knew these once illustrious Anons of the /sffg/. He knew the autist from the metalhead, the Sanderhater from the meme-maker, such was his familiarity. He knew their great shitposts, and the names of their characters, their pronunciations …
“Return him to us!” the anonymous Shill suddenly howled to the heavens. Passion cracked his voice as violently as his face. “Please, God of Gods, send us our King of Authors!”
And suddenly all of them were crying out, wailing to the vacant sky, lamenting, cursing, and appealing, begging most of all …
For R. Scott Bakker.
The Demon.

>> No.18357611

>>18357598
cuck

>> No.18357612

I meditate to regain my mana, before casting Lvl. 8 Cock of the Infinite.

>> No.18357620

Do you discuss books on any altchans?

>> No.18357621

>>18357620
Do you discuss books on 4chan? No.

>> No.18357628

>>18357620
yeah leftypol

>> No.18357637

>>18357621
I was the one telling anon not to buy Bloodline earlier. Call me a tranny next, newfag.

>> No.18357643

>>18357628
Eureka! Of course. The protracted animetranny raid on /sffg/ comes from the “woke” faggot cesspool of leftypol. It all makes sense now.

>> No.18357648

>>18357643
anon I've been here since the board was created, day 1

>> No.18357655

>>18357648
maybe it’s time to move on with your life then. don’t forget to dilate your leaking wound

>> No.18357656

Any fantasy novels in which the MC is obsessed with own guilt and sinfulness due to deeds he has committed in the past? Would prefer something not from a religious perspective but I'm not too picky.

>> No.18357657

>>18357643
Hi I am prince in Nigeria and I can make you very rich ;), pls repsond to email

>> No.18357684

>>18357637
>nooo why do you not recognize me on an anonymous imageboard n-n-newfag
kek and also you don't read

>> No.18357701

>>18357684
kek and also you don't read

>> No.18357704

book

>> No.18357712

>>18357001
Any good novels that has the Byzantine Empire as the setting?

>> No.18357720

>>18357712
the darkness thst comes before
nansur empire has distinct byzantine features

>> No.18357728

What's the opposite of retro futurism?

>> No.18357731

>>18357712
no, because the byzantine empire is geopolitically significant, but not culturally, don't see how a fantasy story would have much to work with.

>> No.18357737

>>18357728
neoclassical

>> No.18357744

>>18357737
sounds interesting, what are neoclassical literature like?

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>>18357731
>but not culturally
Anon, I...

>> No.18357756

>>18357728
>the middle ages but everything is clean lines and industrial designs made of glass, concrete and rebar
>everyone lives in fancy highrises but they're just wheat growing serfs

>> No.18357757

>>18357731
gay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q8i0CYs-CM

>> No.18357763

>>18357756
sounds almost post apocalyptic?

>> No.18357767

>>18357751
Yawn

>> No.18357772

>>18357731
cringe retard

>> No.18357805

>>18357731
>greek-roman empire
>potential to explore hellenistic mythology
>also orthodox christianity
>not culturally significant
Authors are missing some big money out of this

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>>18357763
idk, just taking it literally. retrofuturism is stylistically dated but technologically progressed(or alternatively progressed, let's not split hairs), the opposite would have to be stylistically progressed but technologically dated. so basically the most cutting edge style we have right now are those depressing concrete blocks, and medieval ages are a go-to icon of regressed technology.

an alternative opposite of retrofuturism would be like.. retrohistorical. so where retrofuturism is the future imagined by an earlier time, perhaps retrohistorical could be set in the past imagined by an earlier era. an example would be how the medieval generation imagined historical antiquity. pic related is how the medieval artists portrayed ancient greece, which is obviously not quite right, in that sense, retrohistorical

>> No.18357830

>>18357819
So Arthurian Legends
>king of the britons in the 5th century
>plate armor

>> No.18357839

>>18357830
yup. idk how you would exaggerate this enough that it would have enough legs to stand on as its own genre though. at some point it just becomes magitech

>> No.18357852

any books set in a fantasy or science fiction version of the gaza strip?

>> No.18357860

I binged on the Stormlight Archive over the last month. Although it could have used some editing, I still had a good time. Is Mistborn worth getting into?

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>>18357001
This story is better than this book.
>>18357001
https://www.deviantart.com/uthp/journal/The-Legend-of-Twilight-Zelda-Princess-part-I-348420007

>> No.18357873

>>18357860
read the novellas, read warbreaker, read mistborn, RoW already had a lot more cosmere stuff in it than previous and I can only assume it's gonna get heavier from here

>> No.18357876

Should i read Mistborn? I'm depressed and would appreciate something fun but I hate cliches

>> No.18357879

>>18357866
this is like the cover of animorphs smut fanfic

>> No.18357880

>>18357876
female protag

>> No.18357885

>>18357876
yeah sure.
>>18357880
retardfag

>> No.18357888

>>18357885
seethe

>> No.18357895

>>18357888
seethe

>> No.18357960

>>18357880
Okay which one's good but with a male protagonist?

>> No.18357978

>>18357960
Cradle

>> No.18358007

Asking again since I didn't get any real answers last time.
Is it worth it to read the Aspect-Emperor series even if you didn't enjoy Prince of Nothing very much? Do the books improve?

>> No.18358023

To other fantasy writers: when writing a rape scene, do you often have to stop and fap? or do you take a more clinical approach?

>> No.18358033

>>18357978
can you sell me on Cradle?

>> No.18358051

>>18357267
The kind of idiot found only in /sffg/. Go read a manga or something.

>> No.18358057

>>18358007
Yes. The Aspect-Emperor are better in my opinion. It’s much more in a high fantasy than the first series, which are more focused on human conflicts among nations and faiths.

>> No.18358059

>>18358023
Fapping is counter-productive to any great literature. The great men of letters turned their masculine holy energy into everlasting tributes to the human experience, not empty tissues in the box next to your desk.

>> No.18358061

>>18358033
cool taoist high fantasy but without the downside of a chinese author

>> No.18358065

>>18358059
>The great men of letters turned their masculine holy energy into everlasting tributes to the human experience, not empty tissues in the box next to your desk.
Joke's on you, I eat all of my semen.

>> No.18358068

>>18358023
Jacking off mid writing is like committing creative suicide
That lust is what drives you, it takes you to places you wouldn't even dream of visiting while satiated.

>> No.18358069

>>18358061
Do they have asian names?
I'm bad with asian names, especially when they're written in english

>> No.18358079

>>18358069
some do but not generally, iirc

>> No.18358081

>>18358079
ok thanks, sounds interesting
will check it out

>> No.18358092

>>18358051
Being intellectually numbed by shit pacing and repetition is surely the sign of a weeb.

>> No.18358093

>>18358065
Anime is truly a heavy drug.

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This fucking sucks.

>> No.18358195

>>18357656
Please respond.

>> No.18358207

>>18358195
there are no books like this, sorry anon

>> No.18358208

>>18358195
>>18357656
Wheel of Time kind of but not really.

>> No.18358212

>The faggots are reeking

>> No.18358223

>>18358172
Ma'am.

>> No.18358235

>>18357656
if you want a jesus standin moping for 4k pages read SA

>> No.18358292

>>18358235
Anything not written by a Mormon?

>> No.18358335

Is the Songs of the Dying Earth collection worth a read?

>> No.18358369

>>18357876
>but I hate cliches
Then don't read Sanderson, you fucking moron. The hack's made a career out of writing like dumb robot with formulas.

>> No.18358427

>>18357728
You want to read The Sarantine Mosiac by Guy Gavriel Kay

>> No.18358810

>>18358023
I like to take the Bakker approach and wear a chastity belt while I service other men before they themselves service my wife, this ensures complete dedication to my work and directly influences it.

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>>18357038
>Posts anime
>Mentions cuckoldery

>> No.18359104

>>18357038
I'm actually reading it, and its good. I actually loved the Ensalvement path arc, discovering the different beast and all that is fun as fuck, and his immortal shenaningans are pretty kek worthy too.

>> No.18359171

>>18358936
that ain't anime

>> No.18359175

any books set in a fantasy or science fiction version of the gaza strip?

>> No.18359178

>>18359175
Return of the King

>> No.18359192

>>18359171
You would know.

>> No.18359203

>>18359171
>that ain't anime
We accept your defeat.

>> No.18359210

>>18358335
I remember it being OK, with an insanely stupid final story that tried to explain some shit somehow.

>> No.18359213

>>18359192
I would know, since I'm on an anime website.

>> No.18359217

>>18359213
>>18359203

>> No.18359306

>>18359175
Not /lit/, but i knew a foreign relations major in college who swore that dance in the vampire bund was a perfect allegory for the Israeli Palestine conflict. He wasn't even an anime dude, i have no idea how he discovered it

>> No.18359335

>>18359306
FUCK OFF YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT ANIME HERE REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.18359340

>>18359335
This, but unironically. You need to be 18 to post here.

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mfw when i mfw realize light novels are genre fiction

>> No.18359356

>>18359342
FUCK OFF YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT LNS HERE REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.18359371

FUCK WEB NOVELS
FUCK VISUAL NOVELS
FUCK CHINK NOVELS
FUCK LIGHT NOVELS
AND FUCK WEEBS

>> No.18359383

>>18358172
>>18357267
whew

>> No.18359391

>>18359383
t. doesn't know that sanderson has retroactively made every other author a fucking hack

>> No.18359411

>>18359371
Extremely based. Banish this OFF TOPIC trollscum from the thread.

>> No.18359431

This thread wins the dubious honor of “worst /sffg/ thread of all time.”

The weebtrannies have won. Completely silencing and destroying anything that was ever worthwhile about this once-great thread with their incessant babble. Someday, they will all hang from branches. Until that day comes, we must endure their spineless, obnoxious retardation in grim silence.

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>>18359431
I'm doing my part to save it.

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>>18359431
based

>> No.18359452

>>18359438
How can Wolfe be smiling?

>> No.18359459

>>18359452
He's in Heaven.

>> No.18359467

>>18359431
>Thread started out normally until some faggot couldn't contain his autism and started talking shit about animefags.
God, you're such an easy read sometimes.

>> No.18359468

>>18359438
Nobody wants to read cuckold shit.

>> No.18359471
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>>18359438
Your honourable deeds will not be forgotten. May you lie with virgins and sup with heroes in Challa Hall.

>> No.18359474

>>18359468
I've never read Sanderson, so I wouldn't know.

>> No.18359478

>>18359474
>Reads Bakker.
>Doesn’t know about cuckold
Okay, anon

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Uhh sanderbros? Why don't we just start a Cosmere general? You know, since we're the only community on this board that actually gets new releases from their author and all...

>> No.18359484

>>18359431
Pathetic whiny faggot, go back to the hugbox Discord from whence you crawled and good riddance.

>> No.18359488

>>18359467
>>18359468
Nobody wants to hear about garbage chinkshit and literal anime in the scisnce fiction and fantasy general of a literature board.

If the jannies weren’t weebtrannies like you, this rank stupidity would have been forcibly suppressed ages ago.

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18359489

>“Love is lust made meaningful. Hope is hunger made human.”

>> No.18359493

>>18359484
go back to /lgbt/ and /a/

you will never be a woman
you will never pass as female
you will never be loved.
you will die alone.

>> No.18359494

>>18359483
You know there's a Fortnite thread on >>>/vg/, right?

>> No.18359498

>>18359489
B-BLESSED CONSORT.....

>> No.18359500

>>18359483
But I'm getting a new book from Josiah Bancroft later this year

>> No.18359512

>>18359438
Seeing the word 'Silk' + Wolfe in the same picture made my neurons fire

>> No.18359513

>>18359488
Perhaps you should pick a site that wasn't made by a weeb instead of seething about it all the time

>> No.18359527

>>18359483
But I'm getting a new book from Scott Lynch later this year...

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18359528

>So you shitpost about Bakker in /sffg/ every day? And you tell animetrannies to fuck off? That’s kind of hot, Anon...

>> No.18359539

>>18359478
Why are you obsessed with cuckoldry? Did your ex boyfriend do something to you?

>> No.18359541

>>18359371
this but not visual novels

>> No.18359544

>>18359528
Literal autistic meltdown from the resident Bakkerschizo, again.

>> No.18359550

>>18359483
But i get multiple books from Adrian Tchaikovsky and Django Wexler a year...

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>>18359544
Does it trouble you?

>> No.18359558

>>18359554
Why are you obsessed with homosexual rape?

>> No.18359565

>>18359558
Who do you think you're replying to?

>> No.18359576

>>18359558
Do those topics trigger you? Did some one rape you?

>> No.18359579
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>Not everyone can be saved...

>> No.18359588

>>18359500
>>18359527
>>18359550
What about next year?

>> No.18359597

>>18359588
Why would i want to live to next year

>> No.18359599

>>18359579
I've just finished the Great Ordeal.

Why does Kellhus ass-fucks Proyas?

I think I understood why he reveled himself to him otherwise, but can someone elaborate a little more on this topic?

>> No.18359600

>>18359597
Touché

>> No.18359609

>>18359588
Tchaikovsky is the most prolific writer in SFF. By the end of the year, he'll have released 5 novels. He's got 2 announced ones for 2022 already. He dabs on every other SFF author and still maintains a 4.1/5 average rating on gayreads despite his insane release schedule.

Rothfags will never know this feel.

>> No.18359637

I propose a Bakkerfag + (non-tranny) Weeb alliance.

>> No.18359654

>>18359609
Has he done any Regency stuff that i missed? Guns of the Dawn was spot on

>> No.18359655

Are the Progenitors us? Bakker has hinted as much in his writings on tech, Neuropath, Crash Space, etc, Is Eärwa Earth in the extremely distant future, the Inchoroi having forgotten it was their initial point of origin?

>> No.18359676

>Adrian Tchaikovsky
I've read 2 books from this guy, the one with Spiders, and the one with Squids
They were more about ideas than plot,
Didn't care for the main character. Well, he's not really a character, right? Just a viewpoint for us.

Are his other books like that? Or does he ramp up the characters and actual plot, when the book isn't focused on conveying these scifi concepts?

>> No.18359681

I never thought I would regret Bakkerfags, but there we are

>> No.18359682

>>18359676
His Fantasy is very character driven

>> No.18359684

>>18359599
Proyas himself spends some time contemplating that in the last book, and voices his conclusion

>> No.18359710

>listening to hard boiled wonderland audiobook at work
>regular, raging erection i have to hide
This is the most personally erotic book i have ever picked up

>> No.18359738

>>18359684
Does the "last" book end with a lot of loose ends? Is it really expected that more books are needed to wrap everything up? I don't want to get on a false hype train.

>> No.18359808

>>18359738
>Does the "last" book end with a lot of loose ends?
Yes.
It resolves some things, but it leaves the reader with more questions than answers. As it should be desu.

>> No.18359811

>>18359710
Why subject yourself to that?

>> No.18359816

>>18359808
But is it the LAST book, or not? In your honest opinion.

>> No.18359819

>>18359654
Not that I'm aware of.

>> No.18359828

>>18359816
It ends the story nicely, if not in a fully satisfying manner. Whethet it’s the last book or not depends on the author’s own motivation. It’s a big maybe.

>> No.18359830

>>18359811
If i listened to it at home I'd end up fapping instead of paying attention

>> No.18359835

>>18359830
Isn't that the whole point?

>> No.18359838

>>18359676
>They were more about ideas than plot,
>not really a character, right? Just a viewpoint for us.
reminds me of siri and blindsight

>> No.18359841

>>18359828
Either way, it's doesn't have the appropriate title for a conclusion.

>> No.18359857

>>18359835
I've fapped to enough stories to know that if i do that I'll lose all interest in it afterward and won't finish the reading. Better to finish it first and then use it for fuel

>> No.18359868

>tfw when i left my hardcover copy of the great ordeal in a free bin at my college when moving years ago
>tfw it is now out of print forever
if you own physical copies of bakker’s books you’re in luck. they’re disappearing rapidly and unlikely to be reprinted in the near future.

>> No.18359872

>>18359857
>I've fapped to enough stories to know that if i do that I'll lose all interest in it afterward and won't finish the reading
What? I read fantasy Erotica all the time and I still read it after I fapped.

>> No.18359882

>>18359868
dont forget the one autist on 17thshard buying up 2nd hand copies just to burn them

>> No.18359895

>>18359882
>Damned....

>> No.18359920

>>18359868
Why would anyone want physical evidence of cuck porn in their possession?

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>She can't get over being cucked

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>>18359882
>imagine being filtered by Bakker

At least I gave an actual use to these after reading them.

>> No.18359941

>>18359937
based. the only proper use for sandersoy’s pages of drivel is the wiping of asses.

>> No.18359949

>>18359882
Proof?

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Sometimes fantasy/scifi makes me feel like a bit of a brainlet.
Like, I just finished Ender's Game today. It's a really great read, but I'm probably not going to get anything out of it beyond just the enjoyment of reading it. Is that even a problem?

>> No.18360036

>>18360029
I felt the same until read Bakker too.

>> No.18360104

>>18359882
Ciphrang

>> No.18360112

>>18359882
holy based

>> No.18360147

>>18359882
He could have just PayPal Bakker.

>> No.18360168

>>18360029
Just do what you want to do. Memory is an imperfect storage structure and even if you spend all your time reading textbooks, history books, etc, you'll still forget the vast majority of it - a key component of memory is repetition, and you sure are not going to be encounter obscure facts about Roman history every day to reinforce the knowledge. You could spend 10 years studying a variety of subjects instead of reading for pleasure, and 10 years after that all you'll have to show for it is the random miscellaneous facts that stuck in your memory. Not exactly anything glamorous.

>> No.18360292

>>18360168
I don't think forgetting things like that is normal

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>>18360029
If the book itself doesn't have much to offer it's no surprise you don't walk away with much
There's been books that leave me transfixed for weeks afterwards and some that I forget the next day

>> No.18360332 [DELETED] 

>>337686967
>this makes the compfag cum and shit
how tragic

>> No.18360344

>>18360323
The more genre fiction I read, the more I hate said genre. Very rarely do authors transcend their own genre. Fantasy is fucking horrendous at the moment.

>> No.18360365

Books where strong female characters gets raped?

>> No.18360371

>>18360344
Genre fiction has changed me. Now I know that it's not shameful to watch your wife have sex with other men while you squat over a butt plug with a vibrating cock sleeve strapped to your dick.

>> No.18360385

>>18360371
/sffg/ in a nutshell.

But why would you use a cock sleeve instead of a chastity cage?

>> No.18360400

>>18360371
Fantasy and science fiction are genre fiction.

>> No.18360402

>>18360400
Does it trouble you?

>> No.18360412

>>18360402
That you have a cuckold fetish?

Absolutely not.

>> No.18360597

>>18357620
there's the discord for book club reading/discussion

>> No.18360612

>>18360292
It is, memory degradation roughly follows Zipf's Law. 90% of everything in X year, the next 9% in 2x years, something something. There's some variation in this, some people have photographic memories and such, but you should be able to identify this in yourself as well - how much do you really remember from a book you read 10 years ago? It's probably around 1% at best.

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Just don't forget things

>> No.18360763

>>18360749
Should I read those books? I finally found a copy of sword and citadel and snagged it. Didn't want to read the first one, get really into it, and then not have the second half. I'm just about to finish Great Expectations, so I think I might want some actiony science fiction fantasy.

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>>18358223
It's rushed and half-baked.

>> No.18360835

>>18360763
Yes, absolutely read this. We are not joking about this being among the greatest works of literature.
>I think I might want some actiony science fiction fantasy.
Well, there's some of that
But it's not an "action" book, it's rather an "adventure"(?) book, featuring traveling and exploration, way more heavily than action scenes.(which ARE present, and thrilling)
What they call it, picaresque?
Most of all. It's very, very clever.

Heh. You'll either like it or not.
I've never hear someone say: "I thought Book of the New Sun was OK."
It's always either high praise. Or people that absolutely don't resonate with it.

Just go in with an open mind, and keep going for a short while even if you are not instantly hooked, it may come across as, eh, unique.
I'm so glad I didn't put this down, while still stumbling through the introductory chapters.

>> No.18360844

>>18360778
Cugel's Saga is funny as fuck.
I don't know what it did to me, I'm a naturally dour person. But I was giggling when he did some silly prank with a lobster in someone's boot.
It really pulled me in.

>> No.18360850

>female protags

>> No.18360879

>>18360850
Are based.

>> No.18360884

>>18360850
written by men are _______

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Akka?

>> No.18361067

>>18361048
>The pvssy that caused Resumption

>> No.18361069

>>18361067
>>18361048
Just imagine if Esmi truly was this hot. I would be fucking pissed if I was Achamian alright. At least he fucked Mimara

>> No.18361086

>>18360850
Never understood the hate.

>> No.18361095

>>18361086
What does that mean?

>> No.18361101

>>18361095
Never understood why anons here hate female protags

>> No.18361102

>>18361086
Men write female protags who they want to fuck
Women write female protags who they want to be

>> No.18361108

>>18361102
The same can be said with male protags. Don't see why one should be hated.

>> No.18361110

>>18361101
>>18361102
Most sff writers can't write good characters. That's what I hate most of all. It's an absolute disgrace.

>> No.18361140

>>18361108
The difference is the reader; women hate other women that don't behave, believe or respond like them.

>> No.18361149

>>18359483
Do one

>> No.18361166

>>18360365
Pleas respond

>> No.18361401

I hope the Foundation will be a good start to get into Sci-Fi books.

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I just finished Way of Choices, it was way better than I expected a webnovel to be. Which chinkshit should I read next?

>> No.18361434

>>18361048
>The study is so deep

>> No.18361534

>>18357876
If you want to read something popular and fun read the first book in Locke Lamora

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Soon.

>> No.18361697

>>18361694
Who?

>> No.18361769

>>18361404
Not a chinkshit, but Never Die Twice.

>> No.18361998

>>18361769
Racist.

>> No.18362062

I know Name of the Wind gets shit on a lot, but I've got to say there's something magical about how the first book so perfectly captures the arrogance of being a pre-burnout gifted kid that you can almost feel it yourself god I wish that were me

>> No.18362113

>>18359104
Immortal Court arc is one of the highlights of the entire series. The mix of powerful external and internal enemies, the threat and opportunity of Immortals, Giant Sun's will, Luck, all of it comes together so well in a thunderous explosion of conflict.

>> No.18362137

>>18361694
isn't he doing an entire karsa trilogy before this book?

>> No.18362218

>>18360850
The only good one

ever

has been Samus. And she's vidya. I don't know what it is about Metroid games that really put me on an isolated planet with deadly creatures. I feel like that's not the game's top theme, really. There are plenty of space horror games but Metroid really does it for me. Must be the music. And the no talking.

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I finally gave Mistborn a go and damn I'm having a good ass time. It's pretty easy reading but I see now why people talk about the magic system in this so much.

The world doesn't feel too fleshed though, it's strange. This is the first time I've read something where the magic system is pretty concrete hard magic, but the actually world is sort of a "soft world" like there are locations, but other than those handful of main cities and spots fuck all seems to happening out in the world.

I thought I was going to be annoyed by Vin because I couldn't stand the female character in Way of Kings, but she's always fun to read from her perspective.

I'm only on the first book. I hope the other two books keep up this kind of writing.

>> No.18362303

>>18362291
It gets better, anon, don't worry.

>> No.18362312

>>18362303
That's good to hear :) Have you read those ones after the first trilogy? I was curious if that would be worth a read down the line

>> No.18362323

>>18362312
>Have you read those ones after the first trilogy?
The Wax and Wayne series

>> No.18362389

>>18362291
I hear the author puts too much focus on the magic system. How true is that?

>> No.18362420

>>18357001
>Exploring a Desolate City
Any good books like that?
Like, I like the idea of a hyper advanced city or space station that's been built on top of older layers for so long that now there are these ancient ruins just beneath the surface full of the culture's history. A history that's been forgotten as life goes on and the city keeps getting bigger.
Heck, if I were writing such a story, I'd go with the giant space station, and have ancient systems that have been keeping the place livable for thousands of years finally start to break down, so a group of engineers/historians have to travel down to the center of the station and try to fix it, and deal with all sorts of weird and dangerous shit on the way.
Like various alien animals that have been brought to the station by cargo ships and smugglers over centuries who have now developed an ecosystem in the station's bowels.

>> No.18362483

>>18362312
Wax and Wayne series is better than the first trilogy, though also a lot shorter per book. His writing has improved since he wrote Mistborn. They also have more references to the rest of the Cosmere in them compared to the first three books, so it's more worthwhile to have read his other stuff, though it isn't particularly necessary to do so just to enjoy the books.

>> No.18362505

>>18362420
>Any good books like that?
Yeah, but its mostly post-apocalypse books.

>> No.18362517

>>18362420

Rama & Rendezvous with Rama.

>> No.18362521

>>18362505
What are some post-apocalypse book?
also can post apocalypse books be considered sci-fi?

>> No.18362524

>>18362521
>also can post apocalypse books be considered sci-fi?
no

>> No.18362532

>>18362389
I haven't finished the first book, only about 85% done take that for what it's worth. There is a lot of time dedicated to the magic system however I never felt lost or like the plot was getting distracted in favor of wanking it. Sanderson, for better or worse, is a really barebones writer style-wise. When somethinng happens he often just says it with no flourish, just straight up wheat happened. So whenever a person uses the magic system, it's very quickly and bluntly explained what it does and the scene keeps moving forward.
Example I made up: "She couldn't hear their conversation, so she burned tin, which made the sun blindingly bright but also made their whispers loud as if they were standing next to her."
Then boom the scene just moves forward.
So there is a lot of reexplaining but usually only a single sentence and mercifully he resists doing an info dump, instead the powers are explained as the story progresses.

>>18362323
>>18362483
I tried reading Way of Kings but kind of got bored and dropped off pretty early, should I give it another chance before (potentially) starting W&W? Do you feel it enhanced your reading of it?

>> No.18362540

>>18362532
Different anon here. I'll have to check it out. I like Dumas and he's been described as barebones. He just tells you what's going on and who said what.

>> No.18362675

>>18362540
You definitely should. It's good.

>> No.18362688

>>18362532
I don't think that Way of Kings would be necessary if you didn't like it. It definitely feels cool to recognize the connections, at least to me, but it's not necessary at all. The only thing you'd really notice without having read his other stuff is a character who sticks out as being "strange" who shows up for a scene and then never shows up again with no in-book explanation of who she is.

>> No.18362748

>>18362113
How are the beginning arcs?

>> No.18362784

Anyone know where I can find a pdf or something of the solar labyrinth new sun companion book?

>> No.18362814

>>18362748
The Immortal Court arc is the 3rd arc. And the two arcs before that are arguably even better. These arcs are set within the mortal realism. The stakes of arc 1 and 2 couldn't be higher: one wrong move and death can come in any number of ways. In arc 3 he is actually becoming rather powerful, not just a moral Gu Master that can easily be killed, and thus, to keep the tension and uncertainty going, the enemies keep getting stronger.

Arc 1 is the best arc of the entire book. Hands down. And the 2nd half of arc 2 is probably better than arc 1 overall.

>> No.18362819

>>18362814
Do the later arcs compare to the earlier arcs or no?

>> No.18362824

buying a popsocket for my little kindle
should arrive in a few days along with the sapphire buttplug :3

>> No.18362826

>>18362784
If it's not at the usual websites, you could try your luck at private tracker like MaM

>> No.18362832

>>18362819
The later arcs are bigger than arc 1-3. If you are invested in the story the payoff is indeed great. After the first 3 arcs, there are 3 other highly dramatic moments, each arguably better than the rest.

>> No.18362835

>>18362832
Alright, I'll check it out.

>> No.18362854

are the books on the goodreads emails worth checking out?
or are they just another elaborate form of advertisement

>> No.18362868

>>18362854
elaborate form of advertisement

>> No.18362935

>>18362814
>>18362832
>>18362113
Where do you even read it? Or rather what sites are trustworthy.

>> No.18362953

>>18361401
Eh, it's outdated. Try something a bit m ore modern.

>> No.18362966

>>18362824
>popsocket for my little kindle
wait, that's genuis, I keep accidentally pressing that stupid fucking button on the bottom

>> No.18362968

>>18362966
How?

>> No.18362971

Any books that might make me less freaked out about becoming a father at 28?

>> No.18362980

>>18362971
What?

>> No.18362984

>>18362420
Feersum Endjinn is kind of like that, the author of Blame! cited it as an inspiration.

>> No.18362999

>>18362935
Boxnovel has the best translation. There is another older translation that is not as good.

>> No.18363003

>>18362999
Thanks and nice trips.

>> No.18363013

>>18362968
I let the corner of my kind rest in my palm and use my pinkie to support the bottom of the kindle, which just so happens to land perfectly on that button

>> No.18363017

>>18363013
>I share a general with these type of peoples

>> No.18363019

>>18363017
why are americans like this?

>> No.18363022

>>18363019
I’m Canadian.

>> No.18363023

>>18363019
Mostly genetics

>> No.18363028

>>18363017
>griping about how someone holds a Kindle
>not the normalfag blogger who thinks having a kid in his late 20s is something revolutionary

>> No.18363030

New thread.
>>18363025

>> No.18363041

>>18363028
>>not the normalfag blogger who thinks having a kid in his late 20s is something revolutionary
He is a 4channer. That is pretty revolutionary

>> No.18363217

>>18363028
I wish you were right about any part of that

>> No.18363239

>>18362062
You mean it's good wish fulfillment

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>>18362420

>> No.18364418

Good White Scars books from Black Library?