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Can u pls link me to some diary post or some writings of some centuries old elite master who spend the last years of his life, maybe his last decade of his life mentoring young noobs into the secrets of his skill and mastery and left some book that is more remembered than his skill and works?

Writers like Fux, which nobody today even knows a single of his composition, but every fucking major composer in the last 300 years has spend months on his book.

Or loomis or vilppu for drawing.

>> No.21031721

There aren't any, really. Closest things I can think of
>The Art of Fiction, Ayn Rand
>Aspects of the Novel, E.M. Forster
>On Writing, Stephen King
>The Art of Fiction, John Gardener
>Steering the Craft, Ursula K. LeGuin
>Zen in the Art of Writing, Ray Bradbury

Other less technical more theoretical books
>Fiction and the Figures of Life, William H. Gass
>The Art of Fiction (essay), Henry James
>Lectures on Literature / Lectures on Russian Literature / Lectures on Don Quixote, Vladimir Nabokov
>Gustave Flaubert's letters
>What is Art, Leo Tolstoy

>> No.21031727
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>>21031721
Does this mean there's an underexplored lack of training text for noob artists to self teach the skill to an elite level?

Shit, this is like a gold ticket to being on history books if you write a book with a functioning method for noob artist to self teach art skills.

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Common curiosity never comes close to the light.
Only those who seek the truth may knock at the gate.

>> No.21031751

>>21031727
For fiction, "self teaching to an elite level" really just means autistically studying the greats (Flaubert, Tolstoy, Joyce, Proust, etc etc)

>> No.21032160

>>21031683
How not to write a novel is a fun read

>> No.21032180

>>21031721
>>On Writing, Stephen King
Are any of these actually instructive? King's book was 3/4 biography, and maybe 20 pages of actual pointers.

>> No.21032286

>>21031727
historically, guilds were very secretive about their craft and intentionally avoided writing down their trade secrets, this goes for art and everything else. knowledge was handed down via schools from master to apprentice, and in this way they operated as cartels. so you are not going to find a bunch of 17th century manuals about how to paint like caravaggio or whoever.

but there is an absolutely overflowing library of various books and courses today, many of them perfectly fine, most being on the internet, plus supplemental video material nowadays, and it is by far the best time to learn to be an artist. you literally just mentioned vilpuu and loomis so i don't even know the real the point of your post, maybe you are trolling and the booze made me too retarded to tell. just look on the /ic/ sticky