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8995219 No.8995219 [Reply] [Original]

You have 30 seconds to name a top tier classic book written by a person who is not both white and male.

Hard mode: book has to be at least 100 years old.

pic related: The Analects by Confucius

>> No.8995222

>>8995219
The picture of Dorian Gray

>> No.8995223

>>8995219
The count of monte cristo

>> No.8995225

The Bible was written by sandniggers

>> No.8995228

bible

>> No.8995231

We Don't Have to Prove it to You by your fucking mother

>> No.8995237
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8995237

>>8995222
>>8995223
Oscar Wilde and Dumas are both white and male in my opinion.

>> No.8995238

The lady who composed the Odyssey

>> No.8995239
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8995239

>>8995219
The Sorrows of Young Werther

>> No.8995240
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8995240

>>8995219
Confessions by St. Augustine

>> No.8995241

>>8995219
On Juche by Kim Jong Il

>> No.8995244

>>8995219
Middlemarch

>> No.8995246

>>8995219
Confessions by St. Augustine.

>> No.8995248

>>8995219
The Bible

>> No.8995250

>>8995219
PRIDE AND PREJUDICE
(actually took me ~45 seconds but didn't want to just post the Bible again)

>> No.8995251

>>8995219
My Twisted World

>> No.8995252

>>8995219
Othello

>> No.8995255

>>8995250
>tfw you'll never have Austen's bantz

>> No.8995258

Invisible man

>> No.8995260
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8995260

>>8995222
>>8995223
>>8995239

>>8995219
>NOT both white and male

>>8995225
>>8995228
you get a point

>>8995238
>lady who composed the Odyssey
gonna need some more information on that

>>8995240
>>8995246
where do you get that he isn't white from (pic related)

>>8995244
>>8995250
>>8995251
ok

>>8995252
othello is blackish or are you saying shakespeare is black

>>8995258
good choice

>> No.8995263

>>8995219
Some of those Greeks are pretty swarthy

>> No.8995279

>>8995260
shakespeare was black

>> No.8995350
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8995350

>>8995279
Shakespeare: paint me like on of them white boys.
Painter: say no more senpai.

>> No.8995357

>>8995219
Alexander Dumas was not white

>> No.8995363

>>8995237
>>8995260
I understand where you're coming from and I realize this is just a fun thread on a 'too smart for you' ironic image board but just because an entity (don't want to be presumptuous in saying person) is white-presenting or male-presenting, we should not assume he/she/it/e/ey/xe/xi/thon/hu/ve/hesh/shkle/ae/phe/herm/ham/hann/hesch/rim/ay/ayy/ze/per/na/en/te/co/(s/he)/vey/sie/zim/zam/α/ß/∞/wuz (and anything else I was too ignorant to mention to too filled with implicit biases to consider) IS white or IS male. Unless you have verifiable sources that explicitly demonstrate said author acknowledging whiteness or maleness with regard to his/her/their/xir/xer/cer/eyr/yr/hur/humm/zer/zir/qer/qed/ βer/etc. identity and with proof that they did not feel forced to make this identification by the epistemé or ideology of the given time and place, they always play a role (I know some people will be offended by my neutral gendering of time and space and I am reading more literature on this to validate and hope to understand this perspective), then I think you are doing a great disservice to how far we have come as a society.

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8995367

>>8995237
>in my opinion
what the fuck does your opinion have to do with a person's ethnicity?

>> No.8995375

>>8995367
Well these two posts
>>8995222
>>8995223 had an opinion that the authors were not white and male. Similar to shaquill o neil o speare.
>>8995279

>> No.8995377

>>8995363
ham?

>> No.8995380
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8995380

>>8995375
>>8995367
are you trying to say they are actually not white and male?

>> No.8995384

Invisible Man

>>8995237
>Irish
>white

>> No.8995393

>>8995375
>>8995380
Alexander Dumas wasn't white.

>Dumas' father, General Thomas-Alexandre Davy de la Pailleterie, was born in the French colony of Saint-Domingue (present-day Haiti) to a French nobleman and an enslaved African woman.

>> No.8995402

>>8995393
ok thanks, first good post
>>8995384
>irish white guy isn't white?

>> No.8995404

>>8995377
:^)

>> No.8995410

>>8995219
Tale of Genji

>> No.8995420

>>8995219
Pushkin, the grandfather of Russian literature

>> No.8995426

>>8995410
Only took 33 replies to find one.

>> No.8995434

>>8995410
I had a dream that I got this book in the mail.

>> No.8995435

>>8995402
Irish are only technically white. look how they were treated by the british and american's when they immigrated.

>> No.8995481

>>8995435
>only technically white
pls go

>> No.8995487

>>8995219
Pedro Paramo, or so I've heard.

>> No.8995492

>>8995219
I thought of Vyasa but he's white.
Xunzi by Xunzi, then.

>> No.8995500

Daodejing

>> No.8995509

>>8995219

YOU FUCKING MORON THE ANALECTS WEREN'T WRITTEN BY CONFUCIUS

>> No.8995510

Eugene Onegin

>> No.8995514

>>8995509
The Gospels - Jesus

>> No.8995523

Journey to the West.

>> No.8995546

>>8995509
>The analects by Confucius's neighbour who liked his words so wrote them down.

>> No.8995560

>>8995481
I'm just saying that's an argument some people may use. I don't, but the irish are generally seen as trailer trash which, y'know. It's not the same as racism against poc, but it's still there.

>> No.8995582

>>8995377
Holy shit. You're kidding me right? Ham/hamself.

>> No.8995592

>>8995219
Oroonoko
The Female Quixote
Mrs. Dalloway
The Yellow Wallpaper
The Waves
To the Lighthouse
Tender Buttons

>> No.8995601

>>8995219
Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung

>> No.8995606

>>8995560
ok fair point, but doesn't really answer op

>> No.8995614

Ficciones
The Art of War
Love in the Time of Cholera
100 Years of Solitude
Os Lusiadas
Orlando Furioso
The Tunnel
2666

>> No.8995616
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8995616

>>8995435
They aren't even technically white.

>> No.8995636

>>8995606
Eh. No idea. I wasn't the one that suggested Oscar Wilde, though if I had, I'd probably would have mentioned the fact that he was openly gay, which y'know, was illegal. Still not what op asked for, but more important in terms of his "faults" than him being irish.

>> No.8995659

Frankenstein

And all book-form messages by God

>> No.8995779

>>8995363
Thanks for the copypasta but I only started this thread so I could find some good books from a diverse audience so people like you wouldn't criticise me.

>> No.8995784

>>8995614
Camões was white male

>> No.8995788

>>8995616
they lookin like hobbits
anglo-teutonics look like humans
and negro like orc

>> No.8995797

The Art of War

>> No.8995809

>>8995219
the republic

>> No.8996113

Wuthering Heights
To the Lighthouse

>> No.8996498

The Souls of Black Folk

>> No.8996519

wasn't Euclid Egyptian?
uhhh the Bible was probably written by Semitic shitskins
the popol vuh
Gilgamesh
Pushkin was half african

>> No.8996523 [DELETED] 

>>8995219
Romance of the Three Kingdoms

Some chink wrote it. Great book.

>> No.8996702

>>8995219
Anything Russian. There's no description about Aurelius but the majority of the roman emperors were blonde or blue eyed.

>> No.8996816

Anything greek, kek

>> No.8996828

the art of war
to the lighthouse

>> No.8996834

>>8995367
Everything you retard.

For example: someone is half subsah African and half caucasian. Do they count as ethnically subsah African? That's dependent on definitions and other such bullshit, and hence subjective.

>> No.8996850

>>8996834
wrong

>> No.8996854
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8996854

>>8995363
fucking wonderful anon

>> No.8996855

>>8996519
>Pushkin was half african
More like 1/8th

>> No.8997876

>>8995219
the Bhagavad Gita

>> No.8998880

>>8995219
There are tons anon.

>Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Lo Kuan Chung
>Tale of the Heike, Yoshikawa Eiji
>Musashi, Yoshikawa Eiji
>I am a Cat, Natsume Soseki
>Botchan, Natsume Soseki
>The Miner, Natsume Soseki
>Sanshiro, Natsume Soseki
>Kokoro, Natsume Soseki
>Snow Country, Kawabata Yasunari
>Thousand Cranes, Kawabata Yasunari
>The Old Capital, Kawabata Yasunari
>The Kojiki
>The Nihon Shoki
>The Manyoshu
>Tao Te Ching, Lao Tse
>The Unfettered Mind, Takuan Soho
>The Book of Five Rings, Miyamoto Musashi
>Sappho's Poetry
>The Epic of Gilgamesh
>The Enuma Elis
>etc., etc., etc.,...

>> No.8998927

>>8995219
three musketters

>> No.8998937

Book of Mencius
Zhuangzi
Tao Te Ching
Tale of Genji
Strange tales from a chibese studio

>> No.8998944

>>8998880
tl;dr
Only Asia has literature besides the west.
Afrika a shit

>> No.8998973

>>8995219
Bible
Tale of Genji
Four Great Classics of China

>> No.8998981

>>8998944
Ancient Egypt/the ancient near east in general has some interesting literature.

>> No.8999030

>>8998981
You got any recs?

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8999058

>>8998944
>ask me how I know you're a /pol/tard

>> No.8999111

>>8995219
The art of war by Tzun Tzu

>> No.8999113

>>8999111
O fuck male nvm

>> No.8999119

Atlas shrugged by Ayn Rand because Jews aren't white.

>> No.8999128

>>8999111

male is allowed, he just can't be white as well

>> No.8999176 [SPOILER] 
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8999176

>>8995219
The Kama Sutra

>> No.8999177

>>8999058
Tell me more about the worthwhile literature that subsaharan Africa produced!
Don't forget that it has to be more than a hundred years old.

>> No.8999430

>>8995219
Anything by the Greeks

>> No.8999464 [DELETED] 

>>8995219
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_Genji

>> No.8999472
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8999472

>>8995219
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_Genji

>> No.8999484

>>8995614
All white but sun tzu

>> No.9000669

>>8999030
The Book of the Dead is sort of the "obvious" one.
The Debate Between a Man and his Ba is also interesting, off the top of my head.

>> No.9000828

>>8999058
post some examples of African classics then, cunt

>> No.9000832

>>8999430
>greeks
>not white
????

>> No.9000839

>>9000832
they weren't what you mongs consider white nowadays.

>> No.9000841

>>8995614
Borges and Sabato were more white than 99% of /lit/ posters lmao

>> No.9001533

>>9000828
Ohhh, big man with your big boy pants using the word cunt! Scary!

You guys don't realize when you say Egyptian, the Egyptian empire literally stretched all the way to the extreme south of the African continent for thousands of years, and spread across a broad lush plain. Egyptian is both supra-Saharan and sub-Saharan.

Likewise, Northern Africa and the Middle East have plenty of classics and contributions, a few of which I've listed already.

I know Asian classics because I am fluent in Japanese and have Japanese friends. Just because we here aren't well versed in the cultures of Sub-Saharan Africa doesn't mean they don't have literature, or oral histories comparable to Ireland's, Sumeria's, Egypt's, Palestine's, India's, Japan's, etc.,.

Ignorance is not evidence, kids.

>> No.9001556

>>9001533
Also, the Apocryphal Books of Enoch are Ethiopean and written in the Ethiopic language of Ge'ez.

There's one I do know.

>> No.9001564

>>8995222
wtf oscar was both white and male

>> No.9001575

>>9001564
So are 80% of books listed itt

>> No.9001626

>>9001533
>Egyptian empire literally stretched all the way to the extreme south of the African continent for thousands of years
This is completely wrong. At it's zenith the best you could argue is that it spanned into Upper Nubia, with perhaps some influence into (although certainly not control over) Punt during the New Kingdom.

>> No.9001903

>>8995255
Everyday it hurts.

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9002099

>>8995363
Fucking outstanding famalam

>> No.9002116

>>8995363
saved for later use, thanks senpai

>> No.9002440

The Awakening by Kate Chopin
Invisible Man by Ralph Ellis
and
>the Koran

>> No.9002449

>>8995219
"On Yams" by Okonkwo

>> No.9002472
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>>8995219
The poems of Sappho.

>> No.9002488

>>9002472
>Sappho
>not white
Wrong.

>> No.9002492

>>9002488
The question said "who is not both white and male". Someone who is neither not-white or not-male fits.

>> No.9002495

To The Lighthouse - Woolf
Mrs. Dalloway - Woolf
Invisible Man - Ellison
Song of Solomon - Morrison
Beloved - Morrison
Things Fall Apart - Achebe

>> No.9002497

>>8995260

Augustine was born in Constantine to religiously mixed parents. (His mother was a Christian and his father was a Pagan.) His actual ethnicity is likely some mixture of Semitic and Phoenician.

This is all sort of beside the point since our concrete understanding of whiteness doesn't come about until the eternal Anglo.

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>>8995219

Gandhi's selected writings during the independence movements of India

>> No.9002508

>>8995219

Vindication of the rights of women by Wollstonecraft.

Also 'The Stranger/L'etranger' if I put on my shitposting hat. Camus was a pied-noire and hailed from North Africa.

Oh, and Zitkala-Sa and her collective stories of the Sioux people.

>> No.9002532

>>8995219
Dream of the Red Chamber by Cao Xueqin

>> No.9002559

>>8995219

Ashtavakra Gita
By far the best read I've ever seen

>> No.9002566

>>8995219
Mahabharata, Ramayana, the Vedas, the Upanishads, the Puranas

>> No.9002571

>>8995350
Kekked

>> No.9002591

>>8995219
Middle March, To the Lighthouse, Pride and Prejudice, Frankenstein, The Bell Jar (not the 100 year old thing), The Tale of Genji (not white and not male), The Tale of the Heike, Journey to The West, the Five Classics.

>> No.9002626

>>9000839
This. The Greeks were dark skinned, meditteranean people. They were not white. They were not anglos, saxons, aryans etc.

It was the Romantics who began this myth that the greeks were europeans when that concept of Europe didnt exist until the crusades,

>> No.9002670

Spinoza's Ethics

>> No.9003265
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9003265

>>8995410
>>8998937
>>8998944
>>8998973
>>8999472
oops
have another one :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultana's_Dream

>> No.9003278

>>8995219
I think Jane Eyre was okay. I'm not sure if you guys like it here but I read it when I was 15 and found it interesting.

>> No.9003446

>>9001626
No, it isn't. It is literally quoted from a Phd Egytologist off the history channel.

>> No.9003555

>>8995219
道德經

>>9001533
Proceeds to list nothing...