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What books do you recommend to help me decide once and for all that God exists or not, or to at least decide on a religion? I was just going to read Mere Christianity and then the God Delusion.

>> No.10809675

how about the bible

>> No.10809747

>>10809660
>Theology
>>>/x/

>> No.10809768

>>10809660
Terrible choices OP. Both of those are meme books written by people who are neither philosophers or theologians.

The coherence of theism - swineburn
The miracle of theism - JL Mackie

These books will give you a fairly comprehensive list and discussion of all the non historical arguments for God both for and against.

>> No.10809780

>>10809660
Logic and theism by Sobel.

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>Solovyov's lectures were attended by Tolstoy, Dostoevesky, and Kojeve

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>> No.10811146

>>10809660
>Mere Christianity
>The God Delusion

Christ's sake. If you can't intuit God's existence through introspection, at least read Symbols of Transformation by Jung

>> No.10811162

>>10809660
The Spirit of Medieaval Philosophy

It's what converted Thomas Merton

>> No.10811167

>>10811146
>le intuition
>not everything can be deduced from logic so you can believe anything you want XD

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>> No.10811333

Fear and Trembling and The Gay Science would both be good counterpoises to legitimate theology or atheist deductions. Both of these works examine a side of belief or unbelief that have more to do with faith or autonomy and other deep seated human dispositions than with logical arguments for or against god's existence, all of which in my opinion only lead one to agnosticism if they are closely examined.

I haven't read any theological books fully, but I've heard Summa Contra Gentiles is held up as the best argument for Christian doctrine, at least by catholic. I was impressed by the sections of Guide to the Perplexed by Maimonides that I read for a class once. Spinoza's Ethics also argues for the existence of god, but a totally different god than most theists. As for atheists, Hume's Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion is considered the best subtly atheist work by students of philosophy.

>> No.10811349

>>10809660
>Mere Christianity and then the God Delusion.
Neither provide good arguments
t. CS Lewis fanboy

>> No.10811351

>>10809660
Those are like the two worst possibilities

>> No.10811353

>>10809660
You would genuinely be wasting your time reading the God Delusion

>> No.10811359

>>10811293
this

>> No.10811367

god doesnt exist. read practical books instead.

>> No.10811787

As a Lewis fanboy... Mere Christianity isn't what you're looking for. Summa contra Gentiles works well from Aristotelian metaphysics, or Feser (see >>10811293) for a defense of said framework.
For atheists... I found Ivan Karamazov and Aquinas' objections to his own articles more convincing than God Delusion. Dawkins almost seems more likely to convert people to Christianity, making his points that badly.

>> No.10811921

>>10809660
Read Kant's Critique of Pure Reason and realize that you can't 100% prove one or the other. Figure out which one it is you already believe.