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>Extremely smart
>Always finds a way to win
>Extremely strong
>Extremely charming/persuasive
>Multilingual
>No explanation how he has obtained these skills

How did mccarthy get away with creating such a shallow mary sue?

>> No.20235538

Reddit loves shallow mary sue.

>> No.20235550

why didn't they just shoot him in the head
t. haven't read the book

>> No.20235551
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>Extremely smart
>Always finds a way to win
>Extremely strong
>Extremely charming/persuasive
>Multilingual
>No explanation how he has obtained these skills

How did Christianity get away with creating such a shallow mary sue?

>> No.20235570

He was based on a person from a supposedly true account, McCarthy didn’t just make him up. That being said, it seems likely the original memoir was greatly sensationalized and McCarthy just seized on it as an example of
>bruh human nature be fucked up n sheit *hits blunt*

What do I know though, I haven’t read the book. AtPH was ok, he just comes across as a shallow edgy pseud who writes some nice prose.

>> No.20235601

He is a spiritual and immortal manifestation of evil. He is a

>> No.20235652

He's the ultimate self-insert for people who pretends to be evil but are too afraid of confrontation to actually act on it.

>> No.20235663

>>20235532
the judge isn't a person, he's the ubermensch

>> No.20235672

>>20235532

Oops forgot to add these:
>Amazing warrior
>Amazing dancer
>Never ages
>Literally never dies
>Great with children

>> No.20235689

The Judge is based on a person some people involved with the real Glanton Gang attest to having been there. McCarthy uses that extremely loose source as a basis for creating a supernatural manifestation of man's warlike, imperialist nature in one entity.

>> No.20235693

>>20235532
Literally me.

>> No.20235711 [DELETED] 

The judge is a nigger. He's a big black gorilla nigger, and based on the real life story of a black gorilla nigger wandering in a gang of negroids.

>> No.20235713

>>20235711
He was white??

>> No.20235756

>>20235713
Judge is quite explicitly a dark-skinned mandingo spear chucking nigger.

>> No.20235836

>>20235532
that's intentional. It's supposed to tip you off that there's something very wrong about Holden.

>> No.20235849

>>20235532
Mans ain't human. Thats all.

>> No.20236177

>>20235601
why he's not black then

>> No.20236183

>>20235756
this is not true he's white

>> No.20236234

A character being powerful, talented, and competent, even extraordinarily so, isn't a problem.

The problem, beyond the story being flat-out uninteresting, is when the story itself undermines the idea that such a character could possibly exist. The Sequel Trilogy does this with Rey. She spends her whole life growing up with no friends nor family; she has no skills, education, nor training of any kind; she has no meaningful possessions, and is deliberately underfed; yet every time she tries something, she not only manages it on the first try, but does so better than anyone else has ever done before, often by a lot.

It's far worse than if she'd just shown up into the story as an equally powerful, competent, and talented figure -- who's also totally healthy, physically attractive, and morally incorruptable -- with no backstory. The backstory she's been given totally undermines the idea that she'd be capable of anything she's shown to be doing in the story.

James Bond, Sherlock Holmes, and Walter White are also powerful, competent, and talented to massive extents. But their backstories don't undermine the idea that men like them could exist, and the characters are given consistently interesting things to do.

>> No.20236374

>>20235551
You realize that's the point, right?

>> No.20236384

>>20236234
Stick to your genreshit lmao

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>>20235532
>>No explanation how he has obtained these skills
What, you want a day-by-day biography for a Satan-insert in a fictional story? What kind of books are you reading? If a man writes a letter, do you expect to have explained to you how he mastered his fine motor skills or something?

>> No.20237370

>>20236388
Yes, I’d read that. Without a backstory, judge kinda feels contrived ya know

>> No.20237383

>>20237370
You're a pretentious faggot

>> No.20237398

>>20236374
You realize that's ANON’S point, right

>> No.20237516

>>20235532
Maybe he's the antichrist or maybe just a charlatan who was able to mystify his intellectual lessers

>> No.20237687

>>20235570
Thanks for your useless input, philistine.