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>writes seminal work
>dismantles the patriarchy
nothing personel bigots

>> No.20245005
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>>20244990
The Patriarchy is still strong.

>> No.20245010

>>20244990
>imagine paying for this
I would rather have sex with an adult

>> No.20245012

>>20244990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx714AGs-sk&ab_channel=AllyMissandry
Only fat bitch I'd call based.

>> No.20245013

>>20244990
The normal fuck by a normal man is taken to be an act of invasion and ownership undertaken in a mode of predation. Woman have been chattels to man as wives, as prostitutes, as sexual and reproductive servants. Being owned and being fucked are or have been virtually synonymous experiences in the lives of woman. He owns you - he fucks you. The fucking conveys the quality of ownership - he owns you inside out. The fucking conveys the passion of his dominance: it requires access to every hidden inch. He can own everything around you and everything on you and everything you are capable of doing as a worker or servant or ornament; but getting inside you and owning your insides is possession: deeper, more intimate, than any other kind of ownership. Intimate, raw, total, the experience of sexual possession for women is real and literal, without any magical or mystical dimension to it: getting fucked and being owned are inseparably the same; together, being one and the same, they are sex for women under male dominance as a social system. In the fuck, the man expresses the geography of his dominance: her sex, her insides are part of his domain as a male. He can possess her as an individual—be her lord and master—and thus be expressing a private right of ownership (the private right issuing from his gender); or he can possess her by fucking her impersonally and thus be expressing a collective right of ownership without masquerade or manners. Most women are not distinct, private individuals to most men; and so the fuck tends toward the class assertion of dominance. Women live inside this reality of being owned and being fucked: are sensate inside it; the body learning to respond to what male dominance offers as touch, as sex, as love. For women, being possessed is the sex that has to meet the need for love or tenderness or physical affection; therefore, it comes to mean, to show, the intensity of desire; and being erotically owned by a man who takes you and fucks you is a physically charged and meaningful affirmation of womanhood or femininity or being desired.

Andrea Dworkin, Intercourse

>> No.20245016

>>20245013
base take

>> No.20245020

>>20245013
ALL SEX IS RAPE

>> No.20245026

>>20245013
>>20245020
This makes sex even better

>> No.20245031
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20245031

We live in a gynocracy

>> No.20245047

>>20245020
*heterosexual

>> No.20245048

>>20245031
Yes and its the most peaceful and materially abundant time of any previous era,
add in the resurgence of spirituality with Yoga and Fem-Buddism and we also live in the most spiritually affirming time as well
Gynocracy is the best state huwomynity can possible exist in

>> No.20245087

>>20244990
I wonder how she would have viewed 2020s trans activists, and whether she would have been excoriated as a TERF by the people who used to adore her. She was sympathetic to transsexuals in the 1970s, but that was decades before the present-day industry, organisations and money around it.

>> No.20245109

>>20245013
shes literally correct

>> No.20245136

>>20245013
yeah

>> No.20245141

>>20245048
We've been living in a gynocracy since 1705

>> No.20245158

I can't really argue with Dworkin because the thought and sight of her makes me violently angry

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>>20245012
Based anti-pedo Dworkin

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>Right-wing women have surveyed the world: they find it a dangerous place. They see that work subjects them to more danger from more men; it increases the risk of sexual exploitation. They see that creativity and originality in their kind are ridiculed; they see women thrown out of the circle of male civilization for having ideas, plans, visions, ambitions. They see that traditional marriage means selling to one man, not hundreds: the better deal. They see that the streets are cold, and that the women on them are tired, sick, and bruised. They see that the money they can earn will not make them independent of men and that they will still have to play the sex games of their kind: at home and at work too. They see no way to make their bodies authentically their own and to survive in the world of men. They know too that the Left has nothing better to offer: leftist men also want wives and whores; leftist men value whores too much and wives too little. Right-wing women are not wrong. They fear that the Left, in stressing impersonal sex and promiscuity as values, will make them more vulnerable to male sexual aggression, and that they will be despised for not liking it. They are not wrong. Right-wing women see that within the system in which they live they cannot make their bodies their own, but they can agree to privatized male ownership: keep it one-on-one, as it were. They know that they are valued for their sex— their sex organs and their reproductive capacity—and so they try to up their value: through cooperation, manipulation, conformity; through displays of affection or attempts at friendship; through submission and obedience; and especially through the use of euphemism—“femininity, ” “total woman, ” “good, ” “maternal instinct, ” “motherly love. ” Their desperation is quiet; they hide their bruises of body and heart; they dress carefully and have good manners; they suffer, they love God, they follow the rules. They see that intelligence displayed in a woman is a flaw, that intelligence realized in a woman is a crime. They see the world they live in and they are not wrong. They use sex and babies to stay valuable because they need a home, food, clothing. They use the traditional intelligence of the female—animal, not human: they do what they have to to survive.

>> No.20245228

>>20245013
-and that's a good thing

>> No.20245287

>>20245048
Real prosperity drops in perfect sync with women's lib.

>> No.20245315

>semenal
Heh

>> No.20245326

>>20245020
Thats not what I got out of that

>> No.20245328

>>20245048
>Live in the most prosperous, peaceful, and wealthiest time in history
>Women start demanding equality for the first time

>> No.20245340

>>20245164
She's correct in her assessment but they way she neurotically casts female submission as something horrible and unpleasant to the woman is retarded

>> No.20245342

>>20245315
seminal itself is etymologically related to semen

>> No.20245345

>>20245342
Lmao nice

>> No.20245512

I'd never read anyone who's take on Palestine is as bad as hers.

>> No.20245647

>unfuckable landwhale has a mental breakdown, writes book

Many such cases.

>> No.20245650

>>20245340
What a shitty contribution. Don't add unnecessary qualifiers.

>> No.20245780

>>20245013
she's right but that's what women want

>> No.20245798

>>20245047
This. Homosexual sex is not even sex, just masturbation with company and turns.

>> No.20245868

>>20245328
>Live in the most prosperous, peaceful, and wealthiest time in history
Implying that slowly burning your life away wage-slaving for some capitalist on some bullshit-job is good, because you're not openly threatened with violence.

>Women start demanding equality
Prior to capitalism, women used to control household, while men were away at wars or busy with political matters. With the rise of factories, household production doesn't mean shit anymore. And family has collapsed from a motivated integrated unit into just a pair of two animals, that spend a few of their free hours after wage-slave work watching TV, while their children (if any) are being outsourced to Big Brother zombificational facilities (schools, universities) until nothing but dumb soulless husks remain.

>> No.20245904

>>20245340
It’s completely accurate.

>> No.20245929

>>20245013
Yes, and women want to be fucked. That's what she fails to mention just like every other radical feminist. Men want to possess women and women want to be dominated by men.

>> No.20245940

>>20244990

This feels like a troll because even the post-wall middle-aged Fox News bimbos are usually servicably attractive for their age, whereas Dworkin appears to have Down Syndrome in the picture posted by the OP. Hick mustachioed rural ladies aside (they exist), conservative women are known to be happier and more attractive. I suspect the OP is aware of each point I've made.

>> No.20245951

>>20245013
Spoken like a true fat ugly bitch that hates the fact that attractive women like to be fucked. It all just boils down to jealousy of more attractive people.

>> No.20245965

>>20245951

Dworkin is one of the rare thinkers whose ideas can legitimately be dismissed on account of her own physiognomy. And no, her earlier career as an abused sex worker when she wasn't quite so porky isn't an excuse. Roughly speaking, she is an inverted male incel.

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>>20245048
>the most spiritually affirming time
false

>> No.20246448

>>20244990
When feminists say that they're mostly nice and moderate, send them a google search of Dworkin. There are hundreds of articles in mainstream newspapers and magazines praising her. Imagine if a similar amount of mainstream praise was heaped on someone who said that women, rather than men, are incapable of feeling love.

>> No.20246454

>>20246448
She was very useful for her opposition: a prominent feminist who openly hated men, without shame or weasel-wording. Made it difficult for a whole generation of feminists to try and sweeten their image when Dworkin was their major avatar.

>> No.20246498

>>20245512
What did she say?

>> No.20246504

>>20245013
>Fat ugly femoid gets mad because Chad wouldn't fuck her

>> No.20246514

>>20246498
Same anon, I didn't even know she was Jewish, but I found this:
>In a 2002 article, bourgeois feminist Andrea Dworkin ignorantly describes Palestinian women’s participation in the resistance movement against Israeli occupation. She describes “suicide bombings” as a reaction to the rape and sexual violence they endure in a “woman-hating society.” Dworkin asks, “How does one rise up in a land where women are lower than the animals?”

>> No.20246522

>>20244990
>dismantles the floor
nothing personel weightlifters

>> No.20246570

>>20245328
>most college grads are women
>an increasing share of all workers are women
>me, n.e.e.t.
>live off of their taxes
>write misogynistic essays online
It's a man's world

>> No.20246651

>>20244990
I have a feeling most of this shit was the CIA's fault

>> No.20246656

>>20246570
I think welfare should only be for men

>> No.20246732

>>20244990
Who?

>> No.20246780

>>20246651
She was collaborating with Gloria Steinem, so probably

>> No.20246789

>>20245013
Source The Metaphysics of Sex by Julius Evola

>> No.20246868

>>20245904
Alexa, what is the most common fetish for women?

>> No.20247219

>>20245650
Feminism is the manifestation of female neuroticism. Its evident in that text. She knows she belongs to the weaker sex and is to be dominated by man. This drives her insane. All feminism is down to resentment over biology

>> No.20247284

>fat slob that hates being alive tries and fails to destroy the civilization that provides for her
It is indeed a miracle we have a functioning society

>> No.20247302

>>20244990
Is the "Patriarchy" in the room with us right now?

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>>20247302
Yes. It's me

>> No.20247412

>>20245013
>The fucking conveys the quality of ownership - he owns you inside out. The fucking conveys the passion of his dominance: it requires access to every hidden inch. He can own everything around you and everything on you and everything you are capable of doing as a worker or servant or ornament; but getting inside you and owning your insides is possession: deeper, more intimate, than any other kind of ownership.
That's what makes sex so good though.
t.biological woman

>> No.20247419

>>20245164
>They see no way to make their bodies authentically their own and to survive in the world of men

Does she not understand that this same concept applies to men as well though? She seems to simply be pointing out pretty obvious aspects of the universe that we can't just be what we want and expect to experience the optimal. This applies to every living creature on earth, obviously in different ways to different creatures but it's not as if this is solely a woman's cross to bear

>> No.20247449

>>20245965
The femcel predates the incel. Dowrkin rages not only against men but her white knighting of other women reveals that she hates women as well. It's textbook lesbianish concern trolling to paint oneself as savior to women against the brutality of men. It completely erases any female agency in sexuality. It reminds me of how incels claim that women are beholden to Chad, and if women weren't such mind-slaves, then they'd fuck "nice guys like me".

>> No.20247453

is that femoid kantbot?

>> No.20247457

The mere existence of happy, heterosexual couples makes certain people red with rage and green with envy. What they can't have they must undermine and ultimately destroy to protect their own fragile egos.

>> No.20247471

>Scapegoat: The Jews, Israel, and Women's Liberation is a 2000 book by the Jewish-American radical feminist writer and activist Andrea Dworkin.
>Dworkin begins with an analysis of antisemitism and misogyny in world history, making a comparison between the persecution of Jews and the oppression of women. She discusses the sexual politics of Jewish identity and antisemitism, and called for the establishment of a women's homeland as a response to the oppression of women
BASED
>>20247453
Kantbot will never write a book.

>> No.20247479

>>20247471
Jews are so emotionally fragile.

>> No.20247488

>>20245013
Is this the metaphysical contrepart to the evolutoonay psychologu broscience

>> No.20247492

>>20247471
The absolute fucking STATE of Jewess feminists.

>> No.20247495

>>20247471
he will never be a woman either

>> No.20247497

>>20247488
No that has some validity in the empirical world.

>> No.20247506

>>20247412
There is definitely something about mutual posession and power dynamics that makes sex so thrilling.

>> No.20247572

>>20244990
>Jew
>Fat
>Woman


No thanks.

>> No.20247606

>>20244990
Isn’t Dworkin anti-porn and anti-prostitution?

>> No.20247607

>>20247606
Also anti-pedo >>20245012

>> No.20247613

>>20245013
seems like she should've
had sex,
kek, what an incel

>> No.20247660

>>20247607
I do like these happy moments of accord. I’ve gotten one of my more adventurous, Graeberite, left-wing friends into Andrew Willard-Jones and Augusto Del Noce. I, in turn, quite like (late) Horkheimer.

>> No.20247800

pretty funny how she claimed she got raped and all her feminist followers just had to go along with her ridiculous account because the alternative was admitting that some women are crazy and do in fact make that shit up for attention

>> No.20248011

>>20247800
White western women extract virtue from victimhood. It's perfectly valid to question the stolen valor of the fake victim. Lena Dunham let the mask slip when she said that she wished she had an abortion. This quirk of the female brain is also what causes Munchausen syndrome by proxy.

>> No.20248030

>>20245013
reads like porn

>> No.20248069

>dismantle the patriarchy
She probably dismantled every couch she ever sat on.

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>>20245013

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>>20245013
She's just plagiarizing John Norman.

>> No.20248379

Dworkin was a lesbian but married to a man for only the purpose of using the health insurance he got thru his job while he could get higher income tax deductions as a married couple.

>> No.20248491

>>20247219
So what, there being a "weaker" sex does not give the stronger sex moral authority to assert power over them

>> No.20248543

>>20248491
>Moral authority
Lmao bitch. Morals only exist because men decide so. Women have no physical, intellectual, or productive advantage over men. The only thing you hold over us is the ability to carry a baby to term. Once artificial womb are created, women will be totally obsolete. Your moral authority is laughable.

>> No.20248570

>>20245798
you can't rape a male, you're just using his ass to masturbate

>> No.20248771

>>20248030
My exact thoughts.

>> No.20248982

>>20245013
maybe its just because i live in the modern times but i never felt like i was "owned" or "dominated" by being penetrated. it feels more like i am inviting a good friend to my nice, warm house for a nice warm meal that we eat together. but more like he's the one cooking it and i just enjoy it and tell him how much i enjoy his cooking and want him to come cook again

the hottest part about sex isn't actually the sex itself, but that he comes back for more later.