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Literally in his great novels there is always a prostitute who is the moral compass and the trigger for redemption for the protagonist.

>> No.23228506

>>23228495
A prostitute or a bartender is a therapist that won't report you to the authorities. The relationship between you and them is very special and people feel like they can open up to both professions.

t. bartender that has to listen to your fucking shit ass problems

>> No.23229037
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>>23228495
Luv' strippers.
Luv' prosties.
'Ate onlyfans whores.
Simple as.

>> No.23229052

>>23228495
I suppose it comes through the closeness of sin and grace. Going into immoral areas is often the catalyst for spiritual realisation or redemption.

>> No.23229055

>>23228495
Prostitutes were pretty common back in his day.

>> No.23229070

Because everyone hates prostitutes. Just like everyone hating Jesus for telling the truth and for his ethnicity, nobody would expect a prostitute to have an important role on someone’s spirit. Everyone looks down to prostitutes.

>> No.23229097

>>23229052
That's Calvinism in a nut shell.

>> No.23229100

>>23229055
And not today?

>> No.23229103

>>23229100
Not as common.

>> No.23229145

>>23228495
probably a mary magdalene refrerence i dunno

>> No.23229244

>>23229103
OF would disagree. Instagram is full of whores too.

The difference is today's whores are richer.

>> No.23229253

>>23229100
Street prostitution and brothels were much more visible until fairly recently in most cities. If you were an artist or bohemian, you would have been acquainted with whores through the bar and cafe scene.

>> No.23229521

>>23229097
no it isn't

>> No.23229523

>>23229244
Those aren’t whores. They’re exhibitionists.

>> No.23229798

>>23229253
>>23229523
I'm an artist and I'm acquainted with whores also. They like to be called models today. They're all on IG and the lower end have an OF.

You guys are just geeks.

>> No.23230604

>>23228495
Christfags love whores, their religion tries to pander to them.

>> No.23230803

>>23228506
Barback that has to listen to bar tender problems

>> No.23230806

>>23229097
Source?

>> No.23230812

>>23229798
>IG OF
Online world is not real. If you cant touch them it doesn't count for anything

>> No.23231295

>>23229523
>Those aren’t whores. They’re exhibitionists.
that's the same

>> No.23231299

>>23230812
>it doesn't count for anything
it looks like cope

>> No.23231532

>>23228495
they're extreme version of what all wagies do. it's similar to burroughs taking the junkie as the model citizen since he adheres more rigidly to schedules and an external commitment than workers do

>> No.23231662

>>23228495
The doomiest male yearns for the eternal feminine

>> No.23232187

>>23230812
>>23231299
Who said I can't touch them?

>> No.23232198

Same reason he is obsessed with murderers. Each is an archetype of the ultimate sinner for their sex. Both are also Biblical archetypes. The prostitute from Jericho to the prostitute of the Gospels. The murderer from Cain to Judas. The archetypes also show up a lot in church literature on saints

>> No.23232313

>>23232198
>The prostitute from Jericho to the prostitute of the Gospels.
It's pointed out in the epistle to the Hebrews that Rahab is in Christ's lineage, making the point that her faith that the spies' God was real saved her not just in this life but also her soul.
Also that both Moses and David were murderers, the two of the greatest men to ever live, speaks volumes regarding this archetype as well.
I think reading Romans chapters 3 through 6 sheds a lot of light on this, that revealing mankind's fallen nature highlights the necessity of salvation.

>> No.23232719

>>23232198
St. Mary of Egypt is the most extreme example of this, she went on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem expressly just to fuck as many people as she could. Then when an unseen force stopped her from entering the Church of the Holy Sepulcre, she realized she was an awful person. Then she repented and walked into the desert to live alone with God for the last 5+ decades of her life.

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XIX CENTURY ANALOGUE OF XXI CENTURY INTERNET WHORE SIMPLETON.

IF DOSTOIEVSKI WERE ALIVE NOW, HE WOULD BE PATRON TO, AT LEAST, TEN PROSTITUTES FROM «ONLYFANS», «FANSLY», «MANYVIDS», ET CETERA.

>> No.23232863

>>23232850
exhibitionist =/= prostitute

>> No.23232886

>>23232850
That doesn't fit at all.

Consider Sonya Marmelardov from C&P. She was forced to become a prostitute when she was 14 because her drunkard father kept stealing the family's money and if she hadn't become a prostitute her family would have starved to death. There is no analog to the modern day. None of the onlyfans whores were threatened with death by starvation of their families.

>> No.23232949

>>23232886
>She was forced
dosto would disagree

>> No.23232985

>>23231295
she can show you her bio but doesn't mean that you will put it in

>> No.23233069

If you read the diaries of the women in Dostoevsky's life they talk about how much Dostoevsky would play with their feet. He also writes about it in his letters to them. Kinda based

>> No.23233101

This what I hate about us men. Men hate promiscuity and love chaste women, yet they always get involved with promiscuous women. That is why men suffer. Women don't do this. They hate incels and will never even look at them let alone interact with them. This is not the same as them "hating" chads. Women don't hate chads, they love them. They only say so to keep up the social appearances.

>> No.23233123

>>23232863


SELLS HER BODY, EITHER, VIRTUALLY, OR ACTUALLY: PROSTITUTION.

>> No.23234552

>>23232850
This. And he would be sent to modern day gulag too. Psychotherapy.

>> No.23234559

>>23232863
Its prostitution, simp retard

>> No.23234579

>>23232985
>she can show you her bio but doesn't mean that you will put it in
In today's legislation you're right which is insane, and makes room for infinity games.

>> No.23235480

>>23232949
she was forced in a way. i remember marmeladov's wife telling her something like go sell yourself and she gets out and returns after a few hours with 30 rubles.

>> No.23235616

>>23228495
Why did sumerians worship prostitutes? Answer that.

>> No.23235619
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>>23235616

>> No.23235624

>>23228506
No bartender has ever listened to me
Always too busy watering down my drinks and digging dollar bills outta my ass

>> No.23235655

>>23233123
>>23234559
it only looks like prostitution if you're a mark that likes to be fed fake outrage. if you actually want to understand the phenomenon the first observation you must make is that the resemblance to prostitution is superficial, they're not doing it for money, half of them don't even need any because daddy pays for everything. the supposedly shameful exchange of flesh for money is just a cover that makes it, ironically, "okay," it makes it look like displaying yourself online is an understandable, "rational" act of greed/laziness, which are ultimately aspirational vices. they are PRETENDING to be prostitutes because prostitution is easier to swallow for men and for themselves than the truth that they essentially don't exist as people except when observed by a crowd, except IN the crowd's reaction, and that they would be exactly as psychologically compelled to display themselves even if it paid nothing because they are incapable of a private existence, private acts to them "don't count," they dissolve like smoke, as if they never happened.

>> No.23235679

>>23229253
>>23229798
Both right. Also, read Nervous Breakdown by Anton Chekhov.

>> No.23235687

>>23229037
>prosties
Some people really dont have a sense of cringe do they

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>>23228495
I will lose my virginity to a prostitute. It sucks but probably the right choice. I am chasing DOPAMINE. Imagine the drunks and the gooning sessions I will have once I unlock the dopamine and oxytocin in my brain only sex can provide. Or even just existing in general, the feeling of cummig inside and touching a woman will linger in my brain forever and I will be enlightened regardless of my circumstances. Oh yeah

>> No.23237498

>>23235655
Interesting

>> No.23237530

>>23229070
Why not beggars then? Everybody looks down on them and they're discriminated and dont commit their bodies on lust

>> No.23237535

>>23229523
If that was the case it'd be free, retard

>> No.23237565

if porn wasn't a thing, you would be obsessed with prostitutes too

>> No.23237703

>>23233101
your post actually makes me hate women more, good job anon.

>> No.23237736

>>23228495
Because Dostoevsky is a spiritual millenial. Millenials have this predisposition to be attracted to the gutters of society because they perceive it to be more authentic. The anthem of millenial insight is
>it's pimps and hookers all the way down man!
This is of course wrong because society is built by the middle class and the upper class vultures and lower class parasites and vermin have done nothing positive. It's the same reason they will deride midwits but champion retards because that makes them a topwit by proxy

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>Great men have always preferred women of the prostitute type

>> No.23238602

>>23228495
Prostitution was massively widespread and ubiquitously used in the 19th century. Every European city had armies of the night. There was little to no premarital dating or sex, the sexual outlet of bachelors was to prostitutes. See 'The World of Yesterday' by Zweig for the history. After WW1 social norms loosened and prostitution lessened as dating and pre-marital sex became common.