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How come the decline of NijiEN did not translate to growth of other corpos, particularly, the small ones or the indies? You could argue they moved to Mint and Doki, but idea that the good chunk of Niji fans only watching Pomu and Selen is not a convincing preposition.

Where did their fans go?

>> No.73291944
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>>73291825
niji en viewers are mostly female teenage seanigs and adult fujo zhangs they don't watch western vtubers.

>> No.73291961

>>73291825
Mozzu of all vtubers doesn't want NijiEN sisters as fans

>> No.73292022

>>73291944
The majority yes, that's why their males are unaffected. However, their female livers are taking hits - including Aia and Scarle that had nothing to do with the debacle at all.

>> No.73292045

>>73291944
This. Luxiem fans came from kpop and genshin, which is why they're like that.

>> No.73292095

>>73291825
The small corpos would need Mint and Doki-like girls to attract Mint and Doki fans. Suffice to say they don't have 'em as they're both rare types who are actually deeply-into their things instead of the usual casual average tastes/skills small corpo girls are. There's a reason both of them became standouts in Niji while extremely average/mid girls there generally have stayed low or only declined over time.

>> No.73292155

A large portion of their audience came in with Luxiem’s rise and left with their downfall. The fans they had in the proto-NijiEN (pre-Luxiem) have been thinned out over time via erosion or simply left before things got worse, long ago.

>> No.73292391

>>73292155
Lazulydia (and Ethyria) was alright before Luxiem. The cultural shift in both the fanbase and the talents was just made it unattractive for me to continue watching. I still like the illuna girls, but that's because they barely participate in the mainline NijiEN culture.

>> No.73292476

That Fuwamoco stick explanation thing. Fake fans leave forever when they become 'unpopular'.

>> No.73292517

>>73292476
Anyone who watched after they debuted is a fake fan - especially the who's who may have encountered them being shilled in /vt/ and still chose not to watch.

>> No.73295077

>>73291825
Most viewers who get too parasocial end up sticking with a vtuber because of sunk cost fallacy. They've spent so long watching the same one that when the vtuber actually leaves or graduates, the viewer ends up actually quitting too. It's like finally being free of a drug.

>> No.73295148

>>73291825
NijiEN lost its western audience ages ago. They probably just moved to hololive.

>> No.73295272

>>73292022
Their female niji box was hold by Selen and Pomu. Those 2 were biggest NijiEN for male part of audience, so it's not really surprising rest of the girls are struggling now.

>> No.73295292

>>73291825
Faulty premise. Phase Connect have seen huge growth over the same period.

>> No.73295994

>>73291825
Sisters are kpop fans, not vtuber fans. It's why gura not streaming for long periods doesn't magically create a not-gura with similar success, her fans aren't vtuber fans they're gura fans.

>> No.73296095

>>73291825
picrel is a scammer.

>> No.73296211

They either moved to Hololive completely or became disillusioned with corpos and swallowed the indie pill where they can groom 2views all day. I'm sure some even do both simultaneously.

>> No.73296421

Depends on the corpo, sure we've seen several imploding, particularly during this first trimester.
The corpos and vtubers that looked at Gawr Gura and didn't immediately think of "Nah, I'd win" are the ones that are on the rise now.
Luxiem initially attracted large amount Chinese fans and then lost them, those hated the NijiEN girls' guts - except Enna who speaks Chinese - and were never going to watch your EN smol corpo girls.

>> No.73296437

>>73296095
Did she not really drink her piss?

>> No.73297252

>>73296437
She only tasted it. I prefer girls that swallow.

>> No.73300513

>>73291825

>> No.73300723

>>73291825
The small corpo scene was growing quite a bit until all the yabs came out, Idol and Phase were and still are at the top, but there were still fairly successful corpos like VReverie and V&U (though V&U is still doing relatively okay). The majority of small corpos either died or yabbed so hard their reputation can’t be recovered, anyone burned by corpos is more likely to go to indies where they naturally don’t have to deal with black companies.

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