/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>75287574
Yeah fr. ID has not missed a beat, JP hasn't although some talents take awhile to blossom than others.

Same with EN, myth is a slam dunk(although 3/5 ain't as active as ever. Council/Promise took awhile but they pretty much as good as Myth and no doubt the best Group chemistry among any EN talent. Advent combined the Individuality prowess of Myth and the Chemistry of Council to create the Best EN gen to date.

Makes you think that the wait time will always be worth it.

>>75287574
this is just an unironic child

Nonexistent competition means the best searches for hololive alone

>>75290982
Which is great.
Every corpos should learn from Cover.

Not the biggest fan of the child act but her latest song was great and her 3D performances are great as well.

>>75287574
One day you'll realize it's less about picking the right talent and more about picking the right managers that can create an environment for talents to improve their stronger qualities.

>>75291351
Holy cope

>>75287574
frfr no cap sis
holo absolutely slayed on gawd

>>75287574
Hololive had a ton of really bad hires but most of them end up succeeding anyway because they're part of the Hololive brand.

>>75287574
They talk to them during the audition process instead of solely picking the biggest numbers.

>>75287574
I'm still staggered at how Ollie seems so... average? Normally I'd use mediocre but that word has a negative context these days

But then you see Ollie on stage and she sets the crowd ablaze. Incredible.
https://youtu.be/IQqAbuGvDHM?t=2328

>>75291537
Because Ollie is a performer while daily streams are more about the gift of gab and fishing for bits to exploit.

>>75291537
Ollie on paper is good. 3 languages, funny (loud), passionate about vtubing, actually likes to play games and experiments with content. But she makes male and literal whos collabs + she antagonizes indos

>>75289576
>ID has not missed a beat
>he doesnt know about the dino nepo
ollie's existence poisoned the well. she let herself be used by flesh streamers who abandoned her after she's no longer the new thing on the block. now holostars en was ruined because she gave interview answers to an insufferable person who should have no business being a talent. soon ID will be the same
>>75291537
there are many potential hires who can easily hype up a crowd if you gave them a chance. ollie is not that special.

>>75291939
>>75291790
The fuck did Ollie even do that got you guys so upset with her? Did she collab with stars too many times or something?

>>75291351
That's just wrong, ideally you want both but at the end of the day it's all about picking the right Talent

>>75287574
Probably because their interview expectations are different. Cover probably takes people that promise to work hard, so they may make their fans happy and will prioritize them, whereas nijisanji cares about baseless confidence ("how are you going to beat Gura?"). This kind of confidence can be found in dumb narcissists or delusional retards and there you have your average organ

>>75292148
she got fingered on stream and it wasn't with my fingers

>>75292148
There was a big thing with Connor. Honestly if her fans didn't react the way they did, she could've been in IronMouse's spot right now. Then you got her clash with Indonesian fans and Kobo basically proved those fans right.

>>75289576
Ehhh gen 2 was a pretty big letdown, especially since they were the first gen of any branch to debut after HoloMyth.
Gen 1 and 3 both have some real quality though, Id go as far as to say some of the best chuubas in holo.

>>75289576
ID Gen 2 is filled with duds, Gen 3 is the golden generation for HoloID.
>>75292148
You gotta be new. Stars collabs are the norm for ID so people won't be mad about that.

>>75292266
Talent gets cucked by bad management, see niji

>>75292349
Agree about Gen 2 and Gen 3 but nah to Gen 1. Gen 1 is ded if PekoMoona never happened.

>>75291790
>she antagonizes indos
If you're talking about that one where she insulted the ones who were bitching about her speaking English, that one was based as fuck. One of the only good things she's done.

>>75292375
Good managment can't fix a bad talent, talent can still shine through even with bad management but if you have to manage someone who doesn't have what it takes to be a good Vtuber then what's the point.

>>75292148
Why the fuck are you (You) me as if I'm some Ollie anti. She antagonized indos really badly. She screamed at guy to learn English and implied him being poor after he asked to speak more Indonesian.
She collabs with 2views and males. Not only this is boring, but also won't make audience be closer to streamer, because they won't be feeling special and liked (inb4 muh parasocial)

>>75292442
All you need is the ability to act and follow a talented manager’s script. Bad management cockblocks your career and makes you commit suicide.

>>75292484
>She screamed at guy to learn English and implied him being poor after he asked to speak more Indonesian
Based as fuck.

>>75292287
proof?

>>75292484
t. the guy that got so mindbroken by ollie he learned english

>>75292507
You can go watch Ollie then and try to make up the numbers she lost from that incident.

Gura - inactive
Ame/Ina - inactive and not that interesting
Mori/Kiara - hits
Irys - hit
Mumei/Kronii - inactive
Fauna/Bae - hits
Sana - miss
Fuwamoco/Shiori/Nerissa/Biboo - hits
60% success

>>75292548
Even if its for a SEAfag, calling it "english" is abit...

>>75292501
A good talent doesn't even need a manager

>>75292557
One based moment doesn't make me want to watch a homocollaber. But it is based no matter how much you cry about it in your somewhat broken English. Maybe one day, you can work hard enough to ditch a mud hut and live in normal society.

>>75292594
Wrong. Management does more than direct talents, they do admin shit that a talent has no time for.

>>75292598
Bruh's trying to hide the fact he's a homo watcher. Don't need to be stealthy dude. Say it with your chest.

>>75292394
Moona was already huge before the peko collabs, and I'm not just talking her tits. Iofi is a talanted artist and Risu goes without saying.
I'd say thats a pretty damn good gen overall.

>>75292634
Did you respond to the wrong post? Or maybe your English skills weren't high enough to understand what I wrote?

>>75292484
she is correct tho. if one did not learn english in indonesia that means one is street urchin

>>75292548
>>75292507
>>75292426
Yeah, it was "based", but it cost Ollie her carrer.
Vtubing is not about lashing out at audience so /vt/ may laugh at retards. It is about making viewers feel welcome and keep them entertained.
Look at Fuwamoco. They are accepting even the biggest retarded manchildren and schizos

>>75292282
We get it Gurafag.
Hurr durr gura da best ever!

>>75292676
It was based. Great for a vtuber to say to an Indonesian audience? Probably not. But boy am I glad it happened.

>>75292282
Based, Gura da best ever

>>75292676
some growth of fanbase needs to pruned as buds. it was their mistake not to cut those parts sooner

>>75292676
SEA is way too coddled for the amount of shit they spew in proportion to their viewer-base size. They are a toxic waste dump just as bad as China despite China having over a billion people. Somehow, SEA makes up that difference to be equally bad while being less than a third of their population. It's nice to see them get a taste of it for once.

>>75292652
Nope. But I see you sucking cock. Don't be a coward.
>>75292641
>Moona was already huge before the peko collabs
What is this revisionist history? She had less subs than Risu at that point.

>>75292724
>>75292775
Ollie fans get to be happy because they don't need to see IDfags they hate, while Kobo fans get to have more IDfags they like. Its win-win.

>>75292861
>Nope. But I see you sucking cock. Don't be a coward
Only the strongest bants from SEA. If you must project this hard, at least be a bit more creative with it.

>>75292707
>>75292752
I was quoting existing question from Nijisanji interview you retard

>>75292943
I know, I was making fun of the first fag

>>75292641
i disagree. i remember the pekomoona visibly boosting her sub rate. if it didn't happen she wouldn't cross the 1 mill sub these days.
>>75292797
smaller branches are given more leeway before they got popular. back in 2020-2021 i heard some wild stories about starsJP from their fans /here/.

>>75290982
As opposed to an ironic child?

>>75290982
Uoh

>>75293082
as opposed to actual cunnies

>>75292287
pretty much lol

>>75292917
Don't need to since you can't take the bantz lel

>>75292442
>Good managment can't fix a bad talent
Wrong
Holo was able to make Rushia worked for 2+ year
That in and of itself was an achievement

>>75292629
This
K-son proved that there's actually a lot going on behind the scene for a chuuba, a lot that a GOOD management team can definitely helps with

>>75293334
>i won't watch ollie
>then you must be a cocksucker LOL LMAO
Truly, the highest quality bants. Bravo! You sure showed me.

>>75293114
You're saying that an unironic child is the opposite of an actual cunny?

>>75291939
Not everything caters to your Unicorn fetishes anon

Damn seeing this only makes me sad how far Ollie fell I remember early on thinking she will go far when watching her debut a pretty nice rigging and model, a cool debut with an RPG game, isn't shy with senpai's, and the funny skit with sora in her debut stream too

>>75292943
Fake news

>>75295460
Anything else sister?

>>75294639
the woman moment eventually gets them all

>>75287574
Ask them about their mom. That's the trick. Kobo has a good mom.

>>75291537
Ollie shines best when on stage

>>75287574
Cover picks their talents based on what OTHER talents they have, besides streaming. Except Shiori. Shiori got in because she's VTuberEN grandma.

>>75290982
erotic...

>>75296197
>VTuberEN grandma.
that's eilene

>>75290982
she literally said she was legal

The Only thing I'll never forgive from Ollie was opening the gates for Connor, fucking bitch Mori was going to do it on her own anyway. She decided Astel wasn't enough, she wanted more, the massive unironic normafag weeb audience those faggots from TT had years ago and none of them stayed after he had nothing else to take from her.

>>75292484
>She screamed at guy to learn English and implied him being poor after he asked to speak more Indonesian.
FWMC should do this to people complaining about Japanese streams

>>75290982
GOOD.

>>75296197
>OTHER talents
Such as?

>>75295628
Nta but dude
>Quoting Kirshe and Lucy
All of them are leeches that got popular by leeching off big liggers/phasers, here is Shoto weighing in i guess after leeching off luxiem.
Not a sister tho, just hate grifters that give advice that doesn't work

>>75298533
>nta but

>>75296712
That is why you gatekeep fleshtubers that don't give a fuck, even Tenma had to learn the hard way, and all of them were trying to get OTV to collab with Gura. Thankfully only magging faggot collabed with them and they dropped him too lmao
>>75298632
>Bvtm reaction image

>>75292372
thats the one thing that always gets me. the kroni and mori male collabs were HUGE dramas. to this day the drama still carries on a bit. meawhile ID did male collabs and even though they still get some shit as expected it seemed ultimately.... no one cared? and it all just kinda flew under the radar? how?

>>75298761
indos are known ship obsessed cucks

>>75298720
the nijinigger shrieks in horror upon being found out

>>75291346
>>75287574
You guys should watch her tekken 8 steram. One of the best holomem stream in 2024

>>75296310
Physically legal, not mentally legal, still a crime

>>75292676
>Vtubing is not about lashing out at audience
Not when the audience are objectively retarded.
For context, Indons are stupid ass motherfuckers that DO NOT understand the most basic of MOBA strategies, simply dogpiling the enemy players with superior numbers, thats the kind of idiots Indons are.
And the only way to keep them in line is to be like their mothers, be fierce and yell at them.

>>75299122
that screen tearing
Does kurosanji only invest in yachts and mclarens

>>75298761
>no one cared? and it all just kinda flew under the radar? how?
Unironically, ID Gen 1 set the ground rules and whipped their fans into behaving. Subsequent generations just inherited that "rule" from ID1.

Its like if Sora set the culture of collabing with Holostars from the getgo and everyone simply followed because its what the daisenpai said.

>>75301291
I think ID needs to sing more with the boys. There's a lot more harmonies you can get with more variety to work with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ97zeA1G-Y

>>75299122
fake news still

>>75301422
no need, Kaela can fill that role

>>75303656
Kaela can't sing

>>75304069
>did not see fez
are you stuck sister?

>>75301422
The homos unironically have a good range of voices covered just between themselves, especially now that they have Rio who, funnily enough, can sing higher than the girls.
At the very least the girls should be collabing with Rio.

>>75304308
is Rio catholic?

>>75304164
Not good btw

>>75287574
Sight beyond sight.

>>75306719
Black company

>>75287574
I think Cover just recognizes the value of unique perspectives, experiences and attitudes. If they recruited people blindly based on charisma, they probably have more than enough applicants who showcase good charisma.

But uniqueness...?

People come back to Miko because she can't coherently speak and functions like a retarded baby.
People watch Kobo because she is surprisingly similar to an actual child.
People watch Pekora because she is funny despite being a woman.
People watch Korone because there's simply no one else quite like Korone, with her unique blend of loving retro games, gore and torture techniques, Christmas music, Okayu and somehow simultaneously being the best and worst player of any given video game she tries.
People watch Marine because I dare say that she is the most unabashedly horny woman on earth, and a good conversationalist to boot.

At the end of the day people are not going to stick around just for charisma alone or just because someone's good at video games. People are going to stick around because you're offering something they can't get anywhere else.

Hololive and Cover have very stringent rules that very much put their talents in line. Everyone has their own uniqueness, but the box is small enough that they can't enough momentum with a punch (yab), to swing through and really fuck shit up on their own like you've seen everywhere else.

>>75308983
Tl;dr sir

>>75310584
They choose applicants who aren't all terminally online (the real kind, not twitter surfers) and have a variety of talents to cast a much wider net of potential viewers.

>>75301066
That and canceling their talents plans at the last minute