/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>75418795

Honestly the pressure would be intense, you don't want to be the 1st holomem to pull 1 Finana

still the video game permissions

>>75418795
holofans would make a lot of people prefer poverty. also video game permissions.

>>75418795
A lot of expectations, japanese company autism, a lot of antis

>>75418960
>holofans would make a lot of people prefer poverty.
Ah yes, the seething 2views.

>>75418795
The pressure and commitment might just not be for everyone.
Some people prob prefer the freedom being an inder has over the long list of restrictions just about all corpos have.

>>75418937
>>75419013
>pressure
>expectations
As long you just stream and be kind to holofans, you'll be fine.

>>75419144
sure

>>75419061
you aren't a seething 2view if you don't want to be a zoom therapist for thousands of utterly deranged manchildren like you find on /vt/. more power to the goddamn saints like watame who have the patience for it though.

>>75419141
How about stability?
At this point, hololive will last for another 20 years is not unbelievable prediction.

>>75419144
i don't get what the point of lying here is. they can't even reply to the wrong person on twitter without a mob here chimping out.

>>75419243
>you aren't a seething 2view if you don't want to be a zoom therapist for thousands of utterly deranged manchildren like you find on /vt/.
Wow, so this is how roastie who never watch hololive streams think, huh?
Fascinating.

>>75419328
have you never watched a watame stream? i know i'm exaggerating a bit but not for watame of all holos.

>>75419283
>a mob here chimping out.
Really?
Can you show me one time that kind of situation happen and the chimping out scare holomem?

>>75419363
>i know i'm exaggerating
Yeah, roastie love to do that

>>75419402
nice english, you're getting better

>>75418795
>>75419328
>>75419440
Don't use Watame for your shitposts avatar faggot

>>75419500
>waaaa you have to use good english on cambodian bamboo basket weaving forum waaaaaaa
Nein.

>>75418903
>raped by Festival
that's not a downside

>>75418795
shit fandom that will turn on you with the smallest shit
play nothing but minecraft and chillias art shit
restrictions red tape and everything you do is under the microscope
you cannot express yourself you are forced to follow a script and place a make believe character

>>75418795
The permits, the training and the constant traveling

>>75418937
Nah, some first gens started out as 0.01 Finanas

>>75419543
Shut the fuck up, retard.
Watame gave me the permission.
If you have problem with it, become a meido, that way you can clean my shits.

>>75418903
Source please, image search found nothing

>>75419702
fuyumi02
https://files.catbox.moe/1w0buz.zip

>>75418795
you get posted in the catalog

>>75419613
Wow, it's like you never had a job before.
Surely, you know there's more shittiest job out there.
Heck, even if you compare hololive with other corps or indies, working on hololive is way better.

>>75419827
Yes, this is holoboard.

>>75418795
If you're a borderline hikikomori like Henya it would probably be a bad fit. She just wants to stream, stay inside whenever possible, and work on projects at her own pace. Even Kson has never met her IRL, and VShojo managers have had to rework certain projects to accommodate her desire to not go outside.
https://youtu.be/Ogl_Xv_zZn8?si=GnoJ3LugxVaqQsw3&t=52

>>75419890
I see.
But knowing hololive now, i think they can handle someone like henya.

>>75418795
Depends on what you want out of vtubing. For most it is the golden ticket, but if you don't want to be and idol and sing and dance, then that would be a downside for example.

>>75419550
>pretending to be euro-ESL
use your native language faggot.

>>75418795
Didnt a bunch of homos and Sana quit because they didn't want to do their idol reps or did I get lied to by the catalog? But yeah, if you just want to stream instead of sing and dance, join an small corpo instead

>>75419832
Good afternoon!

>>75419613
Name a single holo whose fans turned on them over a nothingburger. You seething antis are the ones trying to force this, like spamming FWMC baits over GW, yet lo and behold GW is over and everything is the same as before. You cucks live in a seething fantasy world, as expected of a cuck.

>>75420095
Nein.

>>75420142
It's morning here, sister.

>>75420144
mori drank lean

>>75419283
>mob here
Utterly meaningless. Chimp outs here have no power unless people specifically go looking for them, and if they do go looking for them here then that's entirely their own fault.

>>75420057
>>75420125
>don't want to sing and dance
You guys never went to karaoke or club?

>>75418795
>What is the downside of joining hololive?
The inexhaustible sexpest

>>75420188
Sister... that was angry twitter's black community.
Yeah, apparently lean is black culture.

>>75420297
I completely forgot about this guy until /vt/ started spamming him like a week ago.

>>75420297
>only fuck phase girls and indies
Daily reminder:
Holomems have the right to collab with males, they also have the right to deny their existence.

>>75420188
>some random joggers on twitter are her fans
?????

>>75420297
Funny because he fucks everyone except holos kek, pure karma for the cucks who used him to doompost holo.

>>75420279
That's completely different from what holomem have to do
>Voice Coach to make sure you aren't tone deaf
>Dance Coach for choreography
>stay /fit/ enough for 3D lives/holofes
>multiple advertisements and sponsorship demands
It doesn't like much compared to an actual blue collar job, but for mentally ill NEETs and hikkis it might be a tall order. Sure you find the occasional one with aspirations to be a glittering star on stage, but those are probably the exception instead of the rule

holos are mostly the same as any other vtubers, just more corporate.

>>75420540
*sound like much

>>75420057
Nope. Not for me. The idea of singing in front of people makes me ill. I got a singing voice a banshee would be jealous of lol.

I'd be fine as a regular vtuber doing art streams and video games and stuff, but no singing and dancing for me.

>>75420297
Him making it into the Phase discord where he can constantly chat with their girls is the kind of karma I always hoped the Phasekeks would receive.

>>75418795
their chingchong fans will try to kill you for saying 1 word and then the company will throw you under the bus

>>75420540
>>Voice Coach to make sure you aren't tone deaf
https://youtube.com/shorts/_jdXxgFf964
>>Dance Coach for choreography
I wish i have that ina dance webm...
>>stay /fit/ enough for 3D lives/holofes
Polka...
>>multiple advertisements and sponsorship demands
Making money is.... le bad?

>>75420388
>>75420514
Big W if true. Can't believe Yagoo decided to hire him because he plans to sabotage everyone except Holo.

>>75420713
Sisters, it's 2024.
Chingchong fans have been non issues for years.

>>75420713
But enough about nijisanji.

>>75420930
I think phase girls want to get close with holomems, but since most holomems have autism and hololive are pretty strict.
They settled with holostars in hope they can close to homocollabers.
Well, if they can get close with bae, they can get close with some holomems.

>>75418795
>insane number of speech/content restrictions regarding words to not say, topics you're not allowed to acknowledge; basically never allowed to mention anything controversial and/or above PG-13 level
>content restrictions based on perm-politics instead of what would actually make good content
>10-12 hour workdays 6 days a week
>being forced to parrot speeches for the shareholder's bullshit ideas (see: Kronii's BS about how seeing arguing in the community 'hurts her' even though literally everything she's ever said about herself or others said about her establishes her as the polar opposite type of person who 'isn't' afraid to be argumentative. Bae's cringy rant about how the Promise rebrand was totally not a paper thin attempt to disguise how they hired IRyS with empty promises is another example.)
>being forced to use a microscopically-narrow selection of freelance artists/animators despite paying for it from your own pocket nonreimbursed
>all lyrics are scoured to be as blasé and inoffensive as possible (if you're an artist, you'll know how fucking stifling this is). 'Connect the World' fails most AI-generated tests, depending on source.
>said projects/costumes can be rendered immediately useless by asinine rule changes (reminder that Ame lost about half of her self-bought wardrobe when Cover issued that stupid restriction about animal ears because muh brand image)
>mandatory travels to Japan (nonreimbursed)
>paying for your own gear (nonrembursed) - see Wawa almost bankrupting herself to buy that mocap suit
>being at the mercy of a fucking idiot manager who keeps losing your work and telling you through google translate to redo it since they don't speak English (recurrent theme for both Wawa and Mumei and they probably got in trouble for mentioning it)
>Mandatory 3-hour corposhit meetings at 2 in the morning
>having your own 'opinions' fed to you
>Absolutely zero loyalty. The corposhits will throw their talents under the bus at the slightest sign of trouble. Ex: Rushia/Mel/Mano. Lest we forget, Mano Aloe attempted suicide over this.
>mandatory dance lessons paid for out of your own pocket nonreimbursed
>despite having paid for it themselves, the girls hold no legal ownership of their model/songs/assets and Cover retains them even if they leave; otherwise, Rushia/Sana/Mel/etc could have just deleted the cover logo from their banner and kept streaming as if nothing happened
>According to a 2017 study by The Japan Times, over 1/4 former idols (26.9% to be exact) were ordered to pose nude/perform sexually behind the scenes... Cover has every reason in the world to think they can get away with this and more. It's not as if any of the Kronies are going to ask her why she has a black eye. Mathematically speaking, it's just a question of 'which' girls have been exploited at this point.

Non-inclusive list, but I'm about at the space limit. tl;dr - No one should work for a dogshit corpo like this.

>>75420870
>Making money is.... le bad?
It's not that, it's the whole
>doing things you don't want to do for money
which would rub a lot of people the wrong way. It's the entertainment business, I think a lot of indies would call it "selling out". Presenting a squeaky clean image so that advertisers would want to work with you that kinda thing

>>75419243
Watame has one of the best fanbases in vtubing. Calm your seethe.

>>75418795
The downside is that you wont join hololive

>>75419613
Holy retardo.

>>75418903
Sign me up!

>>75420125
Sana said she wanted to be on stage with her gen but I'm guessing there was too much work piling up from her other job. And she saw that as the primary passion.

>>75418795
You have to be fake polite to Kiara, Ollie, Kronii, Matsuri, Moona, etc.

>>75421232
I think holomems have the right to avoid that.
Look at matsuri.

>>75418795
>>75418948
You are pretty much guaranteed success in hololive while being given the most FOTM game persmissions ever. If you are not a good enough entertainer to work with that, you don't deserve to be in a corpo that big where money is just flowing no matter what you do.

>>75421521
Sister, there's no such thing as true polite.
Being polite is an act.

>>75419627
I'm below her btw

>>75421566
>you don't deserve
Keep seeing this statement.
And i think cover know better than some anon.

>>75421585
I am polite to my grandparents because they deserve the respect. I am polite to my supervisor so he doesn't fire my ass. Learn the difference.

>>75421681
politeness by definition is changing your habits. It's all fake.
Next you'll tell me they're not being "real" on camera and just "putting on a show."
Fucking obviously.

One downside is having to deal with incurable menheras, like this guy’s “oshi” >>75421120. As you can see, he’s grown retarded as a result of using their condition(s) to spout /lig/ger lunacy.

>>75421681
Sister... that's not being polite.
You just love your grandparents and hate your boss.
by the way, did he sexually harass you?

>>75421755
yup.

>>75418795
that IS a real downside. there are holofan casuals that do watch for content (also, tourists)
another downside is the welfare tax.

>>75421736
everyone who the mangers have an issue with is a worthless menhera whore
good drone

>>75418795
It's almost impossible to join Hololive. You're competing with hundreds/thousands for 5 spots every 1-2 years.

>>75421532
Okay I'll concede festival, but you still have to do the song and dance bits. No matter how bad you are at them like Noel or Ina, regular voice and dance training is still a requirement for 3D lives and holofes, which can be too much for girlfailures who have never done anything physical, or have never seriously tried anything in their lives.

>>75421722
Not adressing your parents or grandparents like you would adress your buddies, by casually calling them faggots, retards, etc is not being "fake". There's this thing called respect and social dynamics. You braindead zoomers are too far gone to understand those simple concepts.

>>75421801
How? Tell me more.

>>75421263
helmir exists

>>75421120
>It's bullshit
wow sugoi

>>75421893
>which can be too much for girlfailures who have never done anything physical, or have never seriously tried anything in their lives.
Then, it's time for them to shine.
Hololive is the perfect place for girls to improve and be better.

>>75421977
...another reason why it's a great fan base, sister?

>>75421977
helmite*?

>>75421977
What? Did you get btfo'd on leddit by him? kek

>>75421977
Who?
Did he steal your candy or something?

>Nijisisters attack you for no reason

That's about it.

>>75421977
>>75422062
that guy is such a fucking fag.

>>75418795
If you generate buzz pre-debut Mori will try to leech off you.

>>75422146
how so?

>>75421120
-this rule exists for anyone in a corpo with uniform requirements i.e. anyone that wears corpo uniform with logos because you damage the brand by association.
-this is just good business practice not to step in shit on purpose metaphorically
-provably false, see Gura
-provably false, at worst they just shill merch and events, see Kiara
-personal projects are personally funded, corpo projects are corpo funded. The corpo is not a personal bank. Simple as.
-see point #1
-any assets bought personally can be written off as expenses for tax purposes and whoever bought them is free to do whatever they want with it on their personal accounts that aren't Holo associated
-all tavel expenses are written off for taxes
-no one forced her to buy a mocap
-this happens in literally every corpo in every industry, it's why you make back of backups. We all learned this in school when the power would cut out in middle of writing an important paper
-it's called touching base, it's not the corpos fault everyone lives in different timezones, and just disbursing reading material is never enough because 9/10 times almost no one ever actually reads it. Forcing them to review things in real time is a best policy practice for everyone's sake
-how hard it is to not say the thing the people making you a millionaire tell you not to say, are you mentally ill?
-Rushia is a lying menhera bitch, Mel breached her contract and the actual fault lies with the shit "friend" she confided in, and Aloe was provably harassed by Nijinigs and Cover left it up to her to decide whether she wanted to stay or not
-false, it is not mandatory im general and are for event preparation which Cover provides dance and singing lessons and will cover costs UNLESS the talents wants to use their own coaches and can write off the costs as expenses for reducing taxes
-what they're paying for is the license to use the IP that is owned by Cover. If anything they should be paying an ongoing fee of 15% of the IP's value monthly for the opportunity of using their assets under the Holo brand. They're welcome to jump ship and go indie and still pay for assets that are actually still owned by the artists whenever they want
-No one makes those ex-idols go into illicit stuff, they're welcome to work a normal retail job like everyone else

Holo is a godsend as far as corpos go.

>>75422171
kys helmite

>>75422146
tell us more, sister.

>>75420031
Nah. Hololive is an idol company, you WILL have to do your 3D obligations and mingle outside.

>>75422146
>btfo by a faggot ledditor

>>75421120
>Holo members love their jobs.
>Seething sisters try to tell everyone how terrible it is.
Same old story.

>>75422182
redditor who panders to /here/.

>>75422180
>everyone is the same person
you don't say?

>>75422271
his last post was an hour ago and he spends 17 hours a day arguing on reddit for validation from /#/ and the OP is a watame image. better than even odds.

>>75422171
Faggot over here loves vshojo and helmir doesn't so he's eternally butthurt about him and accuses every poster that he disagrees with of being him.

>>75422254
are you a retard, anon?

>>75422180
You really did get btfo'd, didn't you? Maybe you should've stayed in your safe little hugbox in okbuddyhololive, you little faggot. lmao

>>75422254
You are a woman, you get privileges on reddit.
And you still loose to a man?

>>75422327
>reddit dragon in defense of a reddit power user
/vt/ really was a mistake

>>75422305
>anon is a delusional faggot
thanks for the run down.

>>75422349
Then go back to where you belong.
No one force you to stay her.

Numberfags love talking about holoreddit for some reason, personally I have not opened that shit since 2021

>>75421464
The issue was her other job was a Chinese company and China still has a sore spot for hololive after the incident. She probably got a lot of shit for being in holo, coupled with obligations from both sides she decided to do art instead.

>>75422394
why don't you niggers stick to reddit if you love it so much?

what sort of loser cries on this site about a leddit user? kys immediately.

>>75422412
This was you>>75422349
>/vt/ really was a mistake
Did you have dementia or something?

>>75422395
they're the same people, anon.

>>75422494
Are you talking about yourself right now?

>>75422417
Homobeggar. That's who.

>>75419615
>constant traveling
Look at the hikki faggot. Retard, what's better than having a job where you can travel to a bunch of places on the company's dime?

>>75422417
a vshojo/kson fan

>>75422530
small/medium corp & indies. hololive and coco in particular inundated the hobby with redditors. and nijisanji's niggertry has made the hobby even worse recently. never watched or gave much of a shit about vshojo since they're on twitch. the fact that anons here are unabashedly pro-reddit is pretty fucking grim.

>>75422560
I still can't believe that they gave first class flight and rent a castle for their talents.

>>75422596 (me)
i guess i should acknowledge i'm observing this during prime sea hours though. i know that diego discord guy's a flip; you guys love him too?

>>75422596
>pro-reddit
Where, sister?
>>75422645
What are you even talking about?
Is it that time of the month?
Eat a chocolate, that will help, sister.

>>75422596
ur getting shat on for crying on 4ch about being bullied by a redditor tho? if anything, ur the issue here

>>75419243
a lot of indie vtubers are mentally damaged and/or physically damaged too. It seems to be a requirement to being a vtuber

>>75422721
>thinks the kayfabe is real
Anon, are you okay??

>>75421977
>>75422146
Helmir is based.

>>75422741
pick a vtuber

>>75419613
>play nothing but minecraft and chillias art shit

>>75422749
>phasenogs are holo tribalists while also hating holo at the same time
I will never understand this

>>75418795
Hololive is simply bad.

>>75422797
Are you having one of your episodes? The only one hating holo is you sister.

>>75422702
i don't use reddit. they don't talk about any vtubers there besides hololive, who i don't watch for the most part. besides, i can find as much reddit as i want here, since the two have the exact same opinions and tastes in vtubers for some reason.
>>75422721
true. there are a bunch of good ones though, same as anywhere else.
>>75422749
anyone who panders on reddit for /vt/ validation is cringe, it doesn't matter if i agree with them. i don't really even know what his arguments are. i'd much rather shoot myself in the head than get involved in OK holobuddy discourse or whatever. staying away from that slop's part of the reason i keep my distance from hololive in the first place.

>>75418795
Don't like corpos simple as, even phase feels too restrictive sometimes, that said holo girls are based and I have nothing but respect for them

>>75420297
The only reason he got in is to fuck indies and girls from smaller corpos. The dude is a time bomb and I don't know which side will take more damage the day he explodes.

>>75422840
>keep my distance from hololive
>is on the hololive board
best run off to somewhere else, little sis. you're probs ngmi.

>>75422833
i don't hate any holos besides maybe coco. most of their fans need to be lined up against the wall though. same's true for niji. phase has never done anything as awful for envtubing as (1) coco's bugmen saga bringing in dramaniggers (2) coco flooding myth & the hobby with redditors, (3) selen & niji meltdown bringing in even more dramaniggers. i appreciate the fact that pippa shields all of phase from redditors as far as i can tell. say what you will about /pcg/ they're still a long way from deepthroating redditors like the anons in this thread.
>>75422888
my attitude's a little softer. a lot of girls just straight up can't function without a corp. muyu's a great example of a corp doing right by a chuuba. but yeah, corps for the most part are horrible.

>>75422944
Hopefully, he ends up inadvertently nuking his sideshow branch. Only a fool or an old acquaintance would willingly associate with him, but more power to said fools.

>>75422992
should've gone with
>keep distance from redditors
>is on the reddit board

>>75422405
That and she didn't knew how bad her spine problem would be at that time.
Like, she wasn't even sure she could lightly jog without doubling over from pain, let alone doing idol stuff like singing and dancing.

>>75423005
Shut the fuck up and go suck a redditor cock since they live so much rent free in your fucking head. This is a holo board nigga.

>>75422840
>knows nothing
>talks anyway
typical sister.

>>75423005
>Pippa brings in assclowns with her /pol/lack shit
>somehow, this isn’t worse

>hololive exists
>sisters seethe
sasuga

>>75423063
A tale as old as — or perhaps even older than — time.

>>75423005
>retard complaining about holo is a phasefag
can't make this shit up

>>75423040
Based

>>75423048
ehhh
i mean, you have a point, but i don't think it's anywhere near the magnitude of the other three. if anything, I should've included luxiem debut as #3.

>>75423005
>Loves the /pol/fag fan base.
You've managed to be even stupider than a ledditor.

>>75423080
it's like 100 gallons of one poison versus 10,000 gallons of a different poison.

>>75418795
the permissions are for the streamer, I feel like it would suck to be unable to use mods for most games.

There are no downsides. That's why everyone wants to join, retard. If there were downsides it wouldn't be this popular. It's essentially just a lottery for (relatively) young attractive women.

>>75423195
While I agree, you can still make it a good time if you’re able. New Vegas is fine as-is, for example, especially if you haven’t played it before.

>>75423206
So the REAL downside is there aren’t more hags/MILFS in Hololive? Because I agree to that sentiment.

worst things to ever happen to en vtubing: 1) me being born etc etc, 2) coco causing a flood of redditors, 3) coco bugmen saga, 4) luxiem debut, 5) selen/niji meltdown, distant 6th) pippa pandering to polfags
seem fair enough? or is hating redditors really just too objectionable

>>75423206
> young attractive women.
ahhahaahahahahahah

>>75423336
Infinitely better than any orphaned doxxsister, if only for their personalities.

>>75423302
> le 4chan /vt/ starter pack
EN vtubing went to shit the moment japanese companies started shitting it up with their ideas of idol concerts, singing etc.

bitch your a streamer find someone who can play games and not suck at it OR find some hoes and stream on pronhub like melody

>>75418795
>What is the downside of joining hololive?
having sisters endlessly seething at you for existing, i.e. no notable downsides

>>75423420
> if only for their personalities
you mean the curated personalities wher you only see them playing games and chatting infront of a computer? some people are actually braindead

>>75423494
Just because your livers are a bunch of duplicitous bastards doesn't mean all vtubers are, sister.

>>75423494
>sister only watches retards with no personally so she doesn't know better.
go back and stay there.

>>75423494
I’m sure that hearing about the 80th date your chuuba has been on this week is super cool and proves as great viewer engagement, but I’d prefer to disagree.

>>75423494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-P4phTsf0M

>>75423716
>3 years ago
not whatever stupid shit you two are arguing about but man that rigging is ROUGH. please tell me she's gotten an update since then

>>75423759
Wait until you see current NijiID rigging!

>>75418795
Hololive is for Japanese only.
You don't want an Omegafaggot (now fired) EN management with a political agenda that has a hateboner for someone's oshi (in this case, tried to sabotage Gura) by preventing them from selling their own merch and restricting 90% of all their streams behind permission hell they had to seek JP management for help while also sustaining irreversible psychological damage.

>>75423797
wait nijiID still exists?

>>75423797
i'm sure you're not joking. man, why the fuck do these incredibly rich corps skimp out on the actual fucking rigging so much???

>>75423838
Riggers are already in shoet supply and finding a good rigger is even more difficult with the good ones are already booked for months if not years in advance. Lots of shitty riggers have a very open schedule though so they take a bulk of the work. Basic supply and demand.

>>75423716
most people that are hardcore fans for vtubers/simps don't really have any friends and get all their interactions from a talking screen

i'm glad risu spoke the truth

>>75423838
The joke was it's dead. Risu's modern rigging is fine though. Base was updated and other outfits are good.

>>75423905
dumbass, the issue is that nearly everyone outside of holoniji that isn't a literal 1view has rigging that's 100x better than that, even acknowledging she's ID and it was 3 years ago. the richest corps should have access to the best riggers.
i opened up holodex all vtubers and clicked on a random chuuba live now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS_Dv23lzoM how does she compare to holonijis today? to me, it looks pretty solidly mid.

>>75424094
I dont think you watched a single nijisanji liver if you think that is comparable lmao
99% of livers heads cant even turn

>>75424196
that is exactly what i'm saying, yes. for some reason, small corps and indies mog billionaire corps holoniji in rigging.

>>75424230
I'm talking about you combining it into "holoniji"

>>75424279
so "it's unfair to put both in F tier, hololive is D tier"? sure, whatever. sustained.

>>75423812
should've ate her veggies

>>75424307

>>75424465
talking about the 2D rigging. really don't care about 3D. but yeah those niji 2Ds look like ass.

>>75423233
for sure, I love hololive but not being able to play some games is sure to a damper on your plans sometimes. Thankfully, it comes with other benefits.

>>75424465
Ah damn, when you put them side by side even I feel slightly bad from the cringe

>>75418795
Probably the pressure and the workload, after you get the 3D, could be too much for some. Otherwise, if they tardwrangle their fanbase early enough, it's smooth sailing.

>>75419261
>hololive will last for another 20 years
I can see it. Even if Vtubing starts dying, as long as Holo doesn't pull many major yabs, they will coast along for a good while.

>>75419613
>shit fandom that will turn on you with the smallest shit
Wrong corpo.

>>75420125
Nta, but didn't Sana have some pretty bad health issues? Where she couldn't sit and stream for too long cuz of the pain? Don't know about the homos tho.

>>75424307
>/lig/ retard can't look at modern Holo rigging

>>75418795
The insufferable normalfag fans who will repeat unfunny shit for eternity and you can’t call them out for it
t. holofag

>>75421120
>wawa
KFPiss are never beating the NDF allegations

>>75419890
They can handle Aqua and Pekora
They will be able to handle her

>>75423453
> EN vtubing went to shit the moment japanese companies started shitting it up with their ideas of idol concerts, singing etc.
Get the fuck out of my hobby, /lig/ shitter.

>>75421120
>>Absolutely zero loyalty. The corposhits will throw their talents under the bus at the slightest sign of trouble. Ex: Rushia/Mel/Mano. Lest we forget, Mano Aloe attempted suicide over this.
Holy revisionism. Sister, don't forget that it was the nijisisters that almost led her to suicide. Please try to remember things more accurately, Niji and its fans have tons of problems with credibility as it is.

>>75423206
>women
And sometime, men

>>75421120
>wawa
nice false flag phasekek

>>75423453
Oh hey. It's an actual retard.

>>75425370
Average twitchcuck, rather.

>>75425209
Nope

>>75418795
>Can't be a whore
>Can't advertise your Onlyfans on your own hololive twitter account.
>Can't can't do irl webcam streams
>don't own your model
>can't collab with men as much as you please
Not worth it.

>>75425873
>Can't can't do irl webcam streams
I think sisters lack critical information

>>75426065
They allow them to show their full faces, heh since when?

>>75426271
Since Kson was Coco, newfag-chama.

>>75426271
We literally have at least 3 active holomem that still does videos/livestreams without obscuring their faces

>>75426294
No not on their alt account. Do they allow them showing their face on cam on their Hololive YouTube account?

>>75426460
Hey anon, quick question, do you have a functioning brain?

>>75426473
Yes. Guessing the answer is no. Hololive is very behind on modern EN Vtubing.

>>75423905
I'm happy my kamioshi managed to grab THE best rigger there is.

>>75426460
>>75426553
Vshojo is a blight upon Vtubing sphere

>>75426567
Don't watch Vshojo, don't know if they do irl can streams.

>>75425100
>Mano Aloe
>Sayu
>Doki (twice)
I hate nijisisters like you wouldn't believe.

>>75426624
Why watch vtubers at that point? You could just watch regular twitch whores if that's what you want.

>>75427046
Vtubers I watch show their faces, it is pretty common

>>75427398
Those that do irl facecam or show their irl faces in photos are not vtubers, anon. They're streamers with avatars.

>>75418795
Japanese corpo autism, having to do Idolshit, one of the worst fandoms ever

>>75420144
Admittedly, there are something’s that should not have been said and some actions that should have been assisted by management, but in the heat of the moment where you’re frustrated with thousands of people, I would understand that the choice of words and actions would not be the best, but Kronii’s Kronies literally turned on her over the biggest fucking nothing burger to ever occur within the branch. Vesper and Kronii’s content literally became iconic in the short time they streamed together, and the man children that subbed and memebered Kronii complained and whined like absolute babies. I remember a few comments leaked by members on the discussion that displayed the most cringe worthy bullshit about how they don’t want a male infecting their private space when in all reality they were too mentally ill to separate streamer from an actual person who’s not their comfort woman to understand that the oshi they subbed to will never interact with them in an intimate way in their lives. It was unreasonable for her fans to get upset. You can’t control what this woman does outside of streaming, so it is literally impossible to know what the fuck is going on behind it all.

>wordswordswords
>all this to keep begging

>>75424927
She literally admitted after graduation that was all a lie

>>75418795
You don't want a serious answer for that.

>>75428761
Ah, didn't know. Thx, if it's true. Kill yourself if it's a lie.

>>75418795
chastity belt

>>75428761
So, what was the real reason?

>>75418795
They will milk you dry and drop you like a its nothing once you aren't making them enough cash. All corpos are factually bad.

>>75432311
OP is talking about hololive not nijisanji. Don't be a retard and learn how to read

>>75428761
Bruh. Not sure why the other guy even asked or anyone needed for her to 'admit' anything. She was on her other account the whole time during her "health issues", on top of it being
a complete BS excuse to just not do the bare minimum work Cover Corp requires of their talent. This is what happens when someone gets hired on the say so of talent (Ina).

>>75429020
Not sure if she did openly admit it but it absolutely was a complete lie from beginning to end. She wasn't even subtle about it. Some guys (like you) are just asking to get treated like crap.

>>75432518
it's you who can't read. that anon said ALL corpos, which includes holo, niji, phase, idol, vshojo, mythic and all the smaller ones.
indie supremacy is coming soon and all you corpocvcks will cry about it!

>>75432311
Vtubing is an entertainment industry.
It's not a charity.

>>75418795
I feel like sex and edgy jokes have to be super tame. So for example I'd become unfunny shell of human if you tell me to stop being racist
Probably it is same for women and sex jokes, so you won't fare for long if your "content" is talking about how dick tastes like.
I feel like you have to be super talented and effortlessly charismatic to get in, so it wouldn't be any dillema for superhuman that got hired.
Also they are talking about much "behind the scenes" work and I believe them with exception of Gura. Those are probably some voice acting lessons, rewatching streams with managers, writing your plans in some kind of form that expects you to think about everything and of course singing and dancing lessons.

>>75432985
>talking about how dick tastes like.
Is this true, sisters?
Also, if asked about the taste of my dick to my gf, would it make her angry?

>>75427891
>one of the worst fandoms ever
More like one of the best fandoms ever. If you want to see 'the worst fandoms', go check out undertale, jojo, kpop fans at large & fujoshis in general.

>>75432985
>"behind the scenes" work and I believe them with exception of Gura
you believe BTS work except for the literal biggest HoloEN. Logic doko?

>>75433079
>would it make her angry?
only if it tastes bad.

>>75419144
>As long you just stream
You don't even have to stream, as Ayame has proven.

>>75433101
>vtuber fans
>best fandom ever
do you see the gossip and dramafaggotry that goes one here the delulu runs deep

>>75418795
?

>>75432930
Another retard who can't fucking read and comprehend. That anon replied on OP who is talking about Holo. You retard sisters need to drain that nijisemen on your brains.
>corpocvcks
Wow that's cute. Trying to censor a word by misspelling "cucks". Smh am I replying to a child

>>75418795
>Hololive talents usually have no input on their design which means they can get stuck with a coomerbait model
>coomers and unicorns makes for a stressful work environment
>contract disputes can go badly and that frequently happens in the EN branch
>have to operate under numerous rules with strict management
>the radio silent health breaks are fishy no matter how often Cover shills claim that stealth suspensions only happen in other vtuber companies

>>75442401
>Hololive talents usually have no input on their design which means they can get stuck with a coomerbait model
Stopped there. You don't know shit.

>>75424946
looked at aki & luna who are live now. they aren't much better. still way worse than everyone else except niji.

>>75439525
Isn't it late where you are?

>>75444608
Tempus literally had 3 different talents who didn't like their default models. Shinri was embarrassed that his model didn't have a shirt and even most of the guys dislike coomerbait. I am 100% certain that skimpy outfits have been highly controversial in HoloEN. They can make plenty of money even with a standard cute model. Having to play sexy waifu for coomers is literally not worth the additional stress though obviously management would disagree.

>>75447916
Advent.

>>75419792
Thank

>>75418795
If you're cute enough, you'll be subjected to sexual harassment from your Senpai. You might even get raped by Marine if you're a cute girl/boy (JP only).

>>75418795
>Holofans watch holomems, not the video game
Okay then. No reacts.

>>75418795