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risky rain edition

What is /asp/?
/asp/ is a thread for vtubers to give and receive advice related to vtubing.

>Should I stream on Twitch or YouTube?
Most people would recommend against streaming on YouTube if you don't have an established subscriber base from making videos.

>Is there an audience for X?
Would you watch someone do X?
Is someone already doing X?

>What video editor should I use for editing clips?
DaVinci Resolve if you don't feel like spending money, otherwise use Adobe Premiere Pro.

Open company auditions:
https://bravegroup.co.jp/audition_en/
Hololive (Open indefinitely): https://audition.hololivepro.com/en

Useful links:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
Op-Sec: https://mauthedoog.medium.com/21-privacy-tips-vtubers-need-to-know-ce93082cd166
Twitter growth: https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
What to avoid: https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt

Previous thread: >>54852408

>> No.54972681

it's me! :3c

>> No.54973182

Haru… Beryl…

>> No.54973454

Got in at the start of the the thread! More of my Yugioh retro training arc! I roped someone else into 2014 with me as well!
https://twitch.tv/SlushyWater52

>> No.54973590

>>54972681
Cute :3c

>> No.54973599
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54973599

Forgor my picture :(

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54973788

What have you done to improve your content today?

>> No.54974091

>>54973788
Made a plan

>> No.54974203
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54974203

This is the ULTIMATE BOTTOM.
His model, his voice, his energy, everything about him is designed for the sole purpose of pleasuring men.
He'd probably suck off every male /asp/ie and /wvt/ie in a row, and not even for networking purposes, just for pleasure.
He's the biggest slut. He likes to tease, and he knows what he is doing. His eyes are just begging for cock.
He is the type of fag everyone would go gay for, even the most straight man ever, just for one night.
Imagine him moaning your name with his femenine, yet vaguely european accent. Your dick becomes hard like diamonds.

>> No.54974372

>>54974203
Can you at least commission or skeb a better picture of him if you’re going to ritualpost?

>> No.54974972

>>54973454
I would watch this if it had a picture.

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54976366

which aspies do you think are hot irl? girls? coco? olga? purpur? mary? gumpai? boys? beryl? haru? cabo? babis?

>> No.54976441

>>54976366
Me

>> No.54976670

>>54976366
Attractive people don’t get into vtubing.

>> No.54976992

its august now, is hamster bro around?

>> No.54977059

>>54976366
Human beings are generally y grotesque and unattractive
But I find myself alright when I shave and put a smile on
I'd fuck myself, no homo

>> No.54977070

I streamed today

>> No.54977246

>>54977070
Good job! Take a rest and repeat later

>> No.54977274

>>54976366
Girls:
Laine, Olga, Coco, Catreturn
Boys:
Daiya, Beryl, LColonQ

>> No.54977423

>>54977070
thats good.

>>54974372
i thought the shittiness was part of the ritual post

>> No.54977569

>>54972681
:3c

>> No.54977981

>>54976366
>Haru
Hearing his voice come out of an actual male body would be fucking creepy to me.
Hopefully they're on estrogen and a tranny.

>> No.54978838

>>54977274
>Catreturn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBEb2wC8u5E

>> No.54980252

Realized I’ve been splurging too much and got a refund on a $170 commission for two animated emotes. Looking back at it, they definitely were not worth that much (they were done on a base so its not even unique emotes) so I'm glad the artist let me refund

>> No.54980459

>>54977981
What the fuck? Why is it okay for femboys like Daiya or Beryl to sound the way they do, but not Haru?

>> No.54980731

>>54980459
because daiya and beryl sound like feminine boys and haru sounds like a girl stuffed inside the body of a man

>> No.54981231

>>54980459
Daiya is not a femboy.

>> No.54981928

I am studying the way of the bunda; who needs bunda fanart?

>> No.54982051

>>54981928
Daiya, the femboy.

>> No.54982137

>>54976366
which aspies do you think are hot irl? girls? coco? olga? purpur? mary? gumpai? boys? beryl? haru? cabo? babis?

maybe im a simp for this but I'll bite
coco: I feel like she's really pretty but in a glamorous way. kind of like a bartender.
olga: wouldn't care about clothes, typical neet girl. adorable and probably has brown hair.
purpur: I love adorable Latina wife. mating press wife.
mary: used to face stream like half the time. no sex appeal but she's cute and reminds me of an emo baby deer
the only other one I watch are haru and beryl, both seem like unspectacular twinks but beryl is deffo Asian

>> No.54982793

>>54976366
We saw Lava's arm on accident once and she does look like it, voice is a plus. Denpa has shown body parts that make me think she's very attractive, her hands are pretty. Kuromaru is a gymbro so probably him too.

>> No.54983425

>>54976366
I got ghosted after someone saw my picture

>> No.54983644

>>54973599
>>54973454
Your clear no fucks given attitude to this hobby is inspiring

>> No.54983762

>>54973788
Contacted an artist
>>54976670
artist

>> No.54983896

>>54983762
Autist*

>> No.54984486

>>54976670
You say this but I still haven't seen a single fat uggo woman. All them bitches be talking about being shy or too afraid to talk with others but then end up being absolute hotties. What is up with that? VTubing should be exclusively for ugly people, go do fleshtubing you fucking Stacie's and chads!!!!!!!! You don't deserve to have social anxiety, I do!!!

>> No.54984807

>>54944743
Beryl and LColonq definitely check out streams/interact frequently enough, so I quote like these two. Denpafish really seems a bit more isolated, doesn't really interact much it seems. Zenya I dunno, she's too far away from my timezone and I don't catch her streams/have others I watch instead

>> No.54985114

>>54984486
I have. It was actually pretty sad because she lost viewership the moment people found out she was fat. Her ccv went from 20 back down to single digits and never recovered.

>> No.54985141

>>54977274
>Olga

>> No.54985838

>>54985114
>Her ccv went from 20 back down to single digits and never recovered.
If only her dress size could do the same.

>> No.54986133

New audition for female spanish-speaking vtubers, so like just Lavendel?
https://twitter.com/idol_corp/status/1686531506674548736

>> No.54986731

does anyone even watch male karaoke or would it be too gay
im scared of more off the wall shit like this because I don't want to alienate lose my tiny viewership

>> No.54986855

>>54955252
https://www.twitch.tv/manasongwriting unless you also want a shota voice, then no

>> No.54986990

>>54984486
Ollie...
Haachama...

>> No.54987138

>>54983644
Do I really have that? I didn’t even realize that was an attitude I have, but thank you.

>> No.54988583

low effort males are just schizos in the making

>> No.54989289

>>54986990
STOP

>> No.54989411

>>54976366
gumpai is definitely a fat land whale larping having an eating disorder

>> No.54989691

>>54988583
what separates low effort from high effort

>> No.54989768

>>54989691
Whether you have a live2d model or not.

>> No.54989807

>>54989768
Give me 2000 dollars and I can get one set up

>> No.54989958

Is there anything more pathetic than a male vtuber? Who do you appeal to? You're not cute, you're not entertaining, no one wants to hang out with you. Girls are cute, girls are entertaining, we want to hang out with girls. If you're a male reading this I suggest you kys.

>> No.54990080

Oops I didn't know I set off the trigger word

>> No.54990125

>>54989691
you can just tell

>> No.54990289

>>54989958

i watch men sometimes because i like men. simple as. i think men are attractive.

>> No.54990448

>>54989768
Best I can do is a VRoid.

>> No.54990600
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>>54973182
What's up my awoomfie?

>> No.54990664

>>54990448
ngmi

>> No.54990881

>>54990448
low effort

>> No.54990985

>>54990664
>>54990881
What if I made a DIY Live2D model?

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>>54976670

>> No.54991116

>>54991018
>be a vtuber
>you can look any way you wish
>choose to look retarded

>> No.54991148

Could the unity ID that you're required to make to use their software be a potential doxx vulnerability somehow? Could 3D chuuba anons confirm/ deny?

I need to play around with unity to convert a file, but I want to be extra careful with my opsec.

>> No.54991296

>>54982793
My official title is "Brofessor". It was awarded to me for being able to explain why the hypertrophic window isn't true but is still a good approach to meal timing

>> No.54991666

>>54990985
then it would depend if it looks good or like utter garbage

>> No.54991755

Recovered the model I thought I lost. Maybe I will work on debuting soon

>> No.54991756

If I spend enough money, will people consider my content high effort?

>> No.54991905

>>54991148
No one is going to doxx a nobody like you.

>> No.54992207

>>54991905
Never underestimate the tragedy of an unlocked door, crab.

>> No.54992256

>>54991756
They'll probably take you more seriously if you're wearing a suit than a t-shirt with letters and numbers

>> No.54992321

>>54991666
Got an example of utter garbage?

>> No.54992779

>>54991756
Yeah, vtubing is a rich kid hobby like lacrosse and doing meth.

>> No.54992875

>>54976366
me :3c

>> No.54993307

>>54976366
Haru for sure. He talked about getting mistaken for a girl before.

>> No.54993429

>>54992321
not at the moment, I'm in bed

>> No.54993791

>>54991756
If you’re not buffmaxing, you’re low effort. Simple as. If you see someone here with a terrible $12 Radioshack mic, you’re probably not going to sit through their streams or take them seriously until they get a better mic. Same goes for their vtuber models. Vtubing is a visual medium, people want to watch nice looking models. Thing is, a lot of people are stuck in /asp/ exactly because they’re poorfags and third worlders, so people have settled on this cope that png models are acceptable. They are not. They will bottleneck your potential audience. All the time and effort you spend networking and streaming is time you could be spending working an extra job so you can get a live2d model faster.

>> No.54994134

>>54990600
OH OH WE GOT SOME TURBULENCE! A WHOLE BUNCH OF TURBULENCE!

>> No.54994973

>>54991018
I feel the early 2000 gaming bro. Its taking me back

>> No.54995440

Recently I realized I actually have a lisp that's way more pronounced than I thought. The hell do I do about this? Is it a cute character trait? Is it annoying? Should I work to get rid of it? I'm a femchuuba.

>> No.54995722

>>54993791
>Radioshack
way to date yourself grandpa

>> No.54996473

>>54976366
I want to believe Digby is hot
But the memes about the British

>> No.54997333

I stream the same runescape grind for 12 hours every single day and for some reason some people have actually been coming in to watch regularly.

>> No.54997972

>>54997333
Post your stream and you'll get a few more.

>> No.54998141

>>54997972
Never

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>>54998141
C'mon, I was shy about posting here at the start too! What's the worst that could happen?

>> No.54998551

>>54998420
Getting a schizo fanbase

>> No.54998982

>>54998551
Where do I redeem my schizos?

>> No.54999056

What do you guys think is good to stream when first starting, also do you think having a debut stream is worth it if you haven’t streamed yet as an indie?

>> No.54999114

>>54999056
Feet

>> No.54999555

>>54999056
games with dedicated fanbases and no

>> No.55000606
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55000606

It is Wednesday my dudes

/aspies/ streaming today (EST):

Cats is streaming Minecraft at 5 PM: https://twitch.tv/catsreturn
Zenya is streaming RE4 at 8 PM: https://twitch.tv/zenyahima
ChaosFoundry is streaming Hi-Fi Rush at 11 PM: https://twitch.tv/chaosfoundry

If you're also streaming please reply

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>>55000606
I'm streaming Okami at 4PM PST.
https://www.twitch.tv/harumizukich

>> No.55001491

do any aspies want fanart

>> No.55001614

>>55001491
We all do. Draw your favorite!

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>>54999114
can't go wrong with feet

>> No.55001928

>>54999056
Starting with a debut stream is very much a corpo thing. Debut stream is you presenting yourself to an audience. The corpo funnels an audience to you, you use the debut stream to pitch yourself to it. That's the corpo way of bypassing the 2view gutters.

For indies with no existing audience, there's very little reason to invest any time or effort into a debut stream. It's something of a "cargo cult" thing to do. If you want to, you can do it later, when you actually have a network that will support your debut, and a sizeable audience. You can tie it to some nice milestone, like reaching a certain subscriber count, getting a proper model, going full time or celebrating an anniversary.

Some indies already are content creators with an established audience, trying to pivot to vtubing. For those, having a debut stream makes some sense. If that's your situation - go for it! But most /asp/ies here start with 0views and a dream.

>> No.55001955

Has anyone used the featured clips feature on Twitch yet? I tried selecting a few. Does it do anything other than feature them on your page when the toggle is selected?

>> No.55002284

>>55001614
pick one

>> No.55002452

>>54997333
Extremely based viewer.

>> No.55002918

>>54993791
Sure, professional gear and a good model are buffs. A really shitty model and a scuffed setup are debuffs. But buffs and debuffs are all they are. No matter the buffs you stack, for an indie who's just starting out, the growth is going to be hella slow. And buffmaxxing ain't cheap.

To any indie starting out, I recommend investing very little before you start putting out content. You definitely don't want to sink 10k into getting everything in order, only to realize that you can't hold a schedule, face an anxiety meltdown over the "go live" button every day, don't have it in you to be more entertaining than watching paint dry, or just flat out don't enjoy streaming. Some realize all too late that they liked the *idea of being a vtuber* - and don't like *actually being a vtuber* at all. Many such cases.

Once you got the ball rolling on the content and start getting at least some income, you can start thinking about buffing yourself all the way up. Before that, go for the more accessible buffs - like improving your content. Almost any vtuber starting out has a lot of work to do in that department.

>> No.55003404

>>55000606
Me (Albert)
Im streaming Limbus company and lobotomy corp at 20:00 CET

>> No.55003615

>>54997333
People don't appreciate just how important consistency can be.

Even if your content is shit, if it's consistently shit, and on a consistent schedule, you might gather something of an audience for it.

>> No.55005039

All I wanted, was to fix a bone group in vroid. But I then proceeded spend 8 hours working on my models clothes and accessories. I can’t help myself. Once I get started it’s like- the world could be ending outside and I wouldn’t even notice

>> No.55005533

>>55005039
Good luck Cab

>> No.55006821

>>54973788
ordered a new mic

>> No.55008636

since when can't you see someone's every twitter followers? I'm trying to stack people here, sheesh

>> No.55008793

>>55002918
>face an anxiety meltdown over the "go live" button every day
How do you even fix this... I know for a fact that I'll be like this every time no matter how much I prepare (it happens even when streaming to an intentionally empty room). Despite generally enjoying talking a lot.

>> No.55009205

>>55008793
What makes you nervous about hitting go live? That's the easiest part for me.

>> No.55009456

>>54993791
>>55002918
My opinion is in the middle. Having solid audio (no need to go XLR, perfectly acceptable USB mics like Rode's ones can be found for $50-150) and good network setup is a must. A good model is a buff but not an absolute prerequisite like those. PNG or bare-bones L2D is fine - people will mostly listen to the voice and focus on the game screen (or listen in the background), unless it's a zatsudan where the model is in the center. Most people only stream games anyway.
Shitty audio and network breaks however just make it painful to listen to the stream no matter how legitimately fun the person is. I've quit more streams due to the those issues than anything else. Properly setting up the relative volume of the game and your voice is also vital. And really, I beg everyone, check your audio _before_ you start the stream, record a 5-second clip in OBS and play it back so you can adjust the settings.

>> No.55009879

streaming to nobody yet again :3 I will never be entertaining

>> No.55010518

chrome firefox plugin to revert Elon's changes to twitter
https://twitter.com/Purilly/status/1685717365697429504

>> No.55010965

>>55009205
If I knew I might've found a way to deal with it, but just strong unease/anxiety that I feel mentally as well but mostly physically in my heart. Very similar to exam stress that I had throughout my life, probably stems from that. Perhaps also some form of stage fright or failure fright, though it doesn't seem connected to there being anyone on the other side of the stage. Same happens even when I'm recording a video (though until I click record I can rehearse fine). Just too schizo for this I guess.

>> No.55011059

>>55009879
Having somebody on your stream is often down to luck and networking as much as it is to being entertaining, so keep it up.

>> No.55011724

>>55009879
Not sure why people think these vagueposts are funny.

>> No.55012139

>>55011724
funny? you think he's joking?

>> No.55012248

>>55012139
i know he isn't joking because my hands typed that post aswell

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55012303

Divegrass update. Our sign-up was accepted so its time to start sorting out goal horns, anthem, and funny audio clips for chants. Model aesthetics are getting sorted out in house. I'd like out wikipage but the site still numkes those links iirc.

Anyway, first matches start September 1st

>> No.55012361

>>55012139
Joking or stupid. Take your pick.

>> No.55012529

>>55012139
The :3 may be a clue cap'n

>> No.55012960

Is streaming g only on the 2 weekend days too little?

Should I start doing weeknights as well?

>> No.55013011

My leapmotion 2 came in today, let you all know how it is.

>> No.55013063

>>55012960
No, you just have to be consistent about it

>> No.55013216

>>55013063
So just every sat and sun is OK?

I thought consistency also accounted for frequency as well, I worry a 5 day gap is too big and viewers fall off

>> No.55013693

>>55013216
Frequency can affect visibility if all you're doing is shotgunning for volume. Frequency can also cut into fatigue and prep for other content. You have to weigh your options. Weekend audiences are often different from weekdays as well

>> No.55013759

>>55013693
Thanks anon

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playing mahjong is like a metaphor for being a woman
it's very easy to open your hand and chi/pon everything like a retard but then you usually end up with a shitty hand worth a han or 2
if you show some restraint and keep your hands closed then you might build up something decent

damn, that's so deep, I hope one day I'll have a daughter I can teach mahjong to
and then nothing matters because one of the morons you're playing against steals the round with the shittiest open tanyao you've ever seen because your chanta is not a viable hand

>> No.55014391

>>55014248
In English doc?

>> No.55014524

>>54995440
Post voice and we shall judge you
I'm really not someone that minds voice, and I even like chuubas with annoying voices for some reason, so I can't say without hearing your voice.
Generally, I think people are too faggy about voice and get annoyed too easily, so it's a debuff for casual viewers but might attract a specific audience

>> No.55014552

How's my voice /asp/?

https://voca.ro/11OPgwumsmuc

Gonna start streaming soon, any feedback?
Excuse the quality, haven't got my mic yet and had to use my phone headphones

>> No.55014714

>>55008793
Therapy, aside from that, focus on developing a "zero shits given" personality. There's really no easy way to deal with social anxiety but at least it might help trying to deal with it consciously

>> No.55014767

>>55014552
it's a male, don't bother clicking

>> No.55014777

>>55014552
read a little script so we can get a better feel for how you'd maybe talk during a stream

>> No.55014863

>>55014767
Poor widdle groomer baby

>> No.55014926

>>55014777
What should I say?

>> No.55014973

>>55014552
Smooth daddy.

>> No.55015001

>>55014767
You're welcome to my streams anon

>> No.55015015

>>55014926
You know they say that all men are created equal, but you look at me and you look at Samoa Joe and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one on one with another wrestler, you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak and I'm not normal! So you got a 25%, AT BEST, at beat me. Then you add Kurt Angle to the mix, your chances of winning drastic go down. See the 3 way, at Sacrifice, you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning, but I, I got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because Kurt Angle KNOWS he can't beat me and he's not even gonna try!

So Samoa Joe, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus my 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice. But then you take my 75% chance of winning, if we was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, I got 141 2/3 chance of winning at Sacrifice. See Joe, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at Sacrifice.

>> No.55015101

>>55014973
Thanks anon, I should get a bishie/iceman model not a shota right?

>> No.55015102

>>55014926
like a little stream greeting or something idk anything that shows how you speak normally or how to plan to speak during streams

>> No.55015189

>>55015015
OK gimme a bit

>>55015101
Ikeman not iceman fuck

>> No.55015280

>>55015101
I imagine you as a big buff bald guy with big dick energy.

>> No.55015373

>>55015015
laine...

>> No.55015677

>>55014552
You sound like a tranny

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55015695

>>55015189
I'm pretty sure iceman is way more popular than any generic ikemen, so, trust me, it wasn't a typo, it was your soul calling out to you.

>> No.55015814

>>55015101
You need to get a bara model.
Shota is an absolute no. Ikeman could work but you're gonna have to buff him up so much, just go bara.

>> No.55016109

>>55015695
Based kimi
>>55015814
Ty anon will consider
>>55015015
Fuck can't have this and vocaroo open on my phone at the same time, really wanna do it

>> No.55016238

>>55015677
You seem familiar with them anon, what is the supposed give away here?

>> No.55016355

>>55016109
Take advantage of the fact there aren't many baras in /asp/ right now, and the only one we has a model that looks like shit.

We had a babi shortage due to the constant babi slander, and then Haru showed up and everyone flocked to him.

>> No.55016436

>>55000606

Seeing us in the ritual post helps me not oversleep.

> Chaos

>> No.55016787

>>55015015
Delivered
https://voca.ro/1lEcviaxH1jO

That was fun

>> No.55016860

>>55016355
Haru's not a babi, though, he's a trap/femboy.

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>>55012960
>>55013216
It really shocks me how few vtubers capitalize on weekend streaming and how many do weekday streams, because I feel like the majority of non-NEET vtuber viewers are wageslaving all week and then just sit at home on the weekend looking for something to watch(this is my case at least). I basically never have enough streams or even vods to last the weekend, and on weekdays I only have time after work to watch an episode or two of anime while I cook and eat dinner, then go to bed, so I'm definitely not watching streams. It makes me think that most vtubers today are normies because they're always doing irl shit on the weekend instead of streaming. But yeah, just like with anime releases, if I see a stream scheduled for the weekend I'll be looking forward to it all week and I won't forget.

>> No.55017477

my mama company keeps posting super cool new models of new chubers, a lot even being by the actual same mama... BUT THEY DONT ADD ANY NAMES TO THESE MODELS!!!! WHAT IS THIS? why do they keep punishing me like that? Am I not supposed to meet my siblings? Do they... Hate me? What have I done to deserve this?

>> No.55017493

>>55016787
nice voice anon, once you get your mic you should be chillin'

>> No.55017508

>>54941079
When did you send your audition in? What’s in the email?
Did nobody else apply to FSP?

>> No.55017516

>>55017235
Thanks anon great insight

Do you think weekend viewers might be bigger spenders?

>> No.55017625

>>55017493
Hey thanks anon looking forward to it

>> No.55018010

>>55014552
ysound like an old fart. do you play csgo casual. i hear hundreds of you old fart boomer types in csgo casual every month

>> No.55018014

>>55017235
Its a mixed bag but you can definitely feel a difference in weekday and weekend viewership both in volume and individual attendance. I've had some tell me during the week they were watching on their breaks at work or miss the first half of stream before they get home.

I also don't usually do the same content on weekends so I should probably experiment more with that.

>> No.55018063

>>55017235
I've noticed while I can find someone doing something interesting almost the entire rest of the week there's usually nothing going on during Saturday nights. It's honestly wild to me, I'd figure that would be one of the busiest timeslots but I genuinely have an easier time seeing one of the ~50 chuubas I follow doing a cool stream at 4 PM on a Tuesday.

>> No.55018172

>>55012303
Still dunno what this is. Is this the FIFA version of the wrestling thing we had?

>> No.55018189

>>55018010
I'm older yes
Is that a bad thing?

>> No.55018385

>>55017235
I was shocked how few streams were happening on Sundays lmao. If you're European you can prolly capitalize on it till US hours

>> No.55018411

>>55018189
It might turn off some people but for others it could be exactly what they're looking for. It's not worth worrying about someone saying XYZ thing is offputting since it's only offputting to them. If you wanna stream just stream, there's an audience for everything to one degree or another.

>> No.55018427

>>54976366
Lavandel <3
I still think about her all the time, even if she doesn’t want to talk to me anymore
I want to feel your pulse beneath my hands oomfie <33333

>> No.55018635

>>55018172
VT League is a sub-league of the 4chin cup. Its a heavily modded inter-general divegrass competition run in ProEvolution Soccer. 32? other general threads here have their own teams with players with custom models and the like who will also participate.

So yeah its basically the wrestling thing but divegrass

>> No.55018866

>>55002284 sin

>> No.55019215

>>54986133
shes got the idol part even and everything else on the nail obviously so easy w here really

>> No.55019511

>>55001955
For now that seems like it, but they also mentioned featured clips having better discoverability, so maybe they're put in some "for you"-esque algorithm for people who go on clip watching binges or something.
Also, it can help to promote a newer clip that you like that you want to have more views than older clips that don't fully represent your stream.

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>>54976992
I'm here. I know I said first stream would be the 5th but I totally forgot EVO was this weekend so I may just start the 7th instead. I'm not making excuses to delay, I swear.

>> No.55019923

>>55017516
My only speculation is that weekend viewers are less stressed since they're off work the whole day and many are possibly drinking, so they'll be in a much better mood than someone who's been slaving for the past 10 hours and knows they have to do it all again the next day. Happy people having a good time are more likely to spend money.

>>55018014
>>55018063
>>55018385
Yeah it's weird. Like if I'm busy at all (even so much as cooking dinner) I'm not going to tune into a stream because I hate missing anything. I'll certainly watch the vod later, but there go my supas and contribution to ccv counts.

>> No.55020086

I think a reason few chuubas stream on weekends is the old "weekends off, weekdays working" model is no longer very common
Lots of people work one or more weekend days

>> No.55020263

>>55020086
I think it's because you can't compete with corpos during the weekend

>> No.55020287

>>55020086
can agree i never worked a 9/5, I work on 80% of weekends

>> No.55020322

>>55020086
I'm >>55018063 and saturday's one of my days off, the other's Wednesday and I'm utterly spoiled for choices tonight while I already know I'm gonna probably just watch some 2 hour youtube documentary on saturday due to having no better options like usual.

>> No.55020563

>>55018189
yes bro. its literally catastrophic. your whole world is over
end of the story bro. chapters closed

>> No.55020705

>>55014248
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

>> No.55020943

>can't tell if my fsp aud video has been viewed or not because the channel content tab and the individual video analytics are locked in an eternal lovers' spat and can't agree on anything
thank you small local company Google LLC i really need this extra anxiety

>> No.55021027

>>55019882
Hopefully, I'll be free then to watch you.

>> No.55021183

holy shit can some of y'all tweet funny stuff for once? I don't need to hear about how much you hate your job or your duolingo progress, jesus christ

>> No.55021188

>>55018427
Isn't she moving? I don't think she's talking to anyone in general, she hasn't replied to my messages either

>> No.55021456

Should I start setting up my stream properly? I tried a few months ago here but never did much for how my socials looked and didn't stream consistently.
I've also been preoccupied with other hobbies, do you think I could make a comeback if I start putting out videos and such?
My voice sounds like this btw (I just yoinked an audio I've done before)
https://voca.ro/1cIsLxQqgF2H

>> No.55021617

>>55021456
That seriously you?
Why would you near doxx yourself

>> No.55021869

>>55008793
Quite frankly, if you've hit go live a couple of times now but still are a nervous wreck after a while, streaming might not be something for you desu...

It's just something to get used to imo... You could however try working on YouTube content instead, not having an active chat on you might be easier I think?

>> No.55022025

>>55021456
sykkuno get off of /asp/

>> No.55022347

>>55021617
Wait really??
The stuff mentioned in it isn't real so I thought it'd be fine to showcase my voice...

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>>55021188
moving in with her boyfriend?

>> No.55022437

>>55021183
I try to be wacky and silly on tweeter, but I think I'm mostly just annoying lmao. Well, other people have to deal with me being annoying, not men :P

>> No.55022635

Cover Corp has a global 18+ and gender irrelevant hiring policy. How far do you think it's possible to stretch this and get through the interviews as a non-conventional hire?

>> No.55023143

>>55022398
Yeah, me

>> No.55023173

>>55022635
>non-conventional hire
what, like a black man?

>> No.55023229

>>55022635
Impossible. It's a company, it's goal is to increase revenue not give opportunities.

>> No.55023358

>>55021183
I made a twitter for networking and followed the /here/ chuubas and holy shit, everyone fucking sucks and my feed is unusable already.
Depression, meltdowns, whatever stupid blogposting about random shit nobody cares about. How did anyone ever think twitter was a good thing was fucking mentally deranged. It's actually worse than this site.

>> No.55023554

>>55022398
it would suck to be the boyfriend of someone so mentally ill

>> No.55023636

>>55023229
Would you care to elaborate on what you mean and why you think only conventional hires can produce appealing content?

>> No.55023643

>>55019215
I hope she sends her audition and gets in we could have our second asp to big corpo aspie

>> No.55023749

>>55023358
do as alva did and follow no one, use twitter to post schedule or to inform your viewers when you are unable to stream that day

>> No.55023856

>>55023554
it's pussy, and she's sedated from all the medication
I'd do it

>> No.55024053

>>55023856
>t. never had to take care of mentally ill people or make sure that they take their meds
good luck not going insane yourself when you wake up in the middle of the night with her overlooking you with a knife in her hand and shit like that daily

>> No.55024247

>>55024053
>t. hasn't watched a single one of her streams
retarded crab

>> No.55024537

>>55023749
>do as alva did and follow no one
This is the worst way of networking.

>> No.55024578

>>55020263
I only watch small corpos and there are hardly any weekend streams. If you're talking about Holo and Niji, well I'd say those fanbases don't watch any vtubers outside their brand in the first place, so it's not like you're losing any viewers when they're on. The normie vtuber sphere and small corpos/indie sphere are pretty distinct.

>> No.55025499

>>55024053
That's not what mentally ill women even do, they just cheat on you and gaslight you

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>>55024053

>> No.55028087

>>55022347
Nvm thought it was a real company ad

>> No.55028703

What would y’all consider a good amount of streaming consistency when first starting out? For now I’ve decided to stick with at least 3 streams a week, with two of those streams being long streams on Friday and Saturday since no work the next day = no bed time. Other than those two I’ll have shorter streams depending on how busy I am throughout the week

>> No.55029333

>>55028703
Consistency is constancy not quantity. Once a week and consistent will pull.more than 4 times but different days and times every week

>> No.55029633

>>55028703
Three consistent streams seems like a really good start. Like >>55029333 says, though, that means same day, same time every week. At the very least, Friday and Saturday consistently should work even if the others bounce around a bit.

>> No.55030118

>>55023554
I'm not saying it's her fault but she attracts the most menhera viewers. I've seen a notable number of them that have nothing else in common but really like Lavandel

>> No.55030627

>>55014714
Thanks, seems like sound advice.
Therapy is hard though since I'd need someone as terminally online as myself and usually therapists are relatively normal people.

>> No.55030858

>>55021869
Yeah, I'm definitely leaning more towards video than streaming, that way I can press the button and just have my mental breakdown in peace while the content is already uploaded.

>> No.55031038

>>55023358
You have to curate your feed if you want to use it actively. Many people whine on Twitter, I do that as well on my personal account, so you don't follow those (or follow & mute) and follow others with actual content or useful info.
Alternatively follow anon's advice and just don't use it aside from posting schedules and stream links.

>> No.55031526

>>55031038
>mute
that's exactly what I needed, thanks anon.
I don't want to give up twitter networking opportunities, so this helps.

>> No.55032616

>>55031038
Funnily enough, twitter got a lot more enjoyable now that I'm not following any artists anymore lmao

I've also implemented a rule, if all I remember about someone I follow is them crying or being in drama, and find them like, whining 3 times in a row, I unfollow them. Worked like a charm so far

>> No.55032892

>>55032616
I just mute everyone who won't stop spewing politics. I keep some of the whiny ppl around because they're pathetic and make me feel better about myself.

>> No.55033237

>>55018866
who is sin?

>> No.55033422
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>make twitter for networking purposes
>immediately bombarded with mountains of trannyposting, e-begging, artist virtue signaling, and incessant whining about life
Is regular twitter this fucking unbearable or is vtuber twitter just especially low quality?

>> No.55033688

>>55033422
you gotta just follow and like things you like until the algorithm makes your feed slightly bearable. It's still terrible, but it won't be as bad as when you start, especially if you just stick with the 'following' tab

>> No.55033821

I can’t stream regularly, what are the chances of pulling regulars in without a schedule and doing guerilla streams instead?

>> No.55034068

>>55033821
It's harder but if there's a semblance of consistency you can get a few.

>> No.55034119

>>55033821
Beryl has built a following despite seeming to only do guerilla streams. I suppose that you'll be alright as long as you can provide some early notification on days when you're able to stream?

>> No.55034450

The ebegging is the worst. All these chuubas yelling into the ether about how they can't pay their fucking basic ass bills and need gofundme or ko-fi payments, but somehow always have money to shovel to artists for comms.

>> No.55034740

>>55009456
I'm not saying that you shouldn't invest into your setup at all. Just don't invest too much too early, and get into the groove of content creation ASAP. $100 can go a long way if you are just starting out - and a full setup is something you pick up along the way.

I agree that audio/video/network issues are high priority to sort out - right along with the plain old skill issue of "not being entertaining".

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55035015

>>55033237
It's so fucking over for him it's not even funny

>> No.55035024

>>54986133
i hope so

i would be so proud of her

>> No.55035083

>>55033237
The Risk of Rain vtuber SinFormaVX

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>>55034450
For me it's all the issues they have going. Sometimes it feels like I'm the only guy with a somewhat decent mental health, no disabilities and loving parents

>> No.55035220

>>55021183
you're clearly not following me. too bad!

>> No.55035302

>>55023358
my feed is awesome, you're a bitch and the algorithm knows it

>> No.55035504

>>55035162
normal people don't watch vtubers, they definitely don't become vtubers, and they sure the fuck don't become vtubers and wind up in the kinds of circles where they're followed by, talk to or are people on 4chan

>> No.55035530

>>55035162
The definition of poor mental health and disabilities has been broadened to the point where you have it if you think you have it. It's essentially meaningless now. Just carry on doing your own thing, whether people admit it or not, well adjusted people are likeable.

>> No.55035557

OK /asp/ies who wants to get groomed? I'm a 55 year old man with a dead wife and a substantial amount of money. I like ASMR

>> No.55035560

>>55033422
You are a wannabe vtuber, so Twitter algorithm's sorting hat has funneled you straight into the deep end of the "mental illness" pool.

It gets a bit better as you start following people and tardwrangle the algorithm a little. But I found that it never really feels good. And networking is always a fucking pain in the ass. Gets a bit better, but not all the way.

>> No.55035679

>>55035302
no, fuck you, mute is awesome and it's already better after muting the whiners

>> No.55035725

>>55035679
hell yeah fuck you and also good for you i hope you have lots of fun

>> No.55036256

>>55035557
check out Zenya maybe, she does ASMR

>> No.55036305

>>55035504
Nah, I consider this hellhole far less toxic and maladjusted than vtuber twitter.
That being said, I wasn't really surprised going in that a significant amount of the community was gonna be mentally ill trannies.
What did kind of surprise me though is how many vtubers are retail wagies.

>> No.55036407

>>55034119
Only guerilla streams? Does he not have a schedule or something?

>> No.55036594

I've noticed that when there's issues with the stream or game while people are live, people generally fall into two categories: the type that has a (usually) silent nervous breakdown since the 'presentation' they're giving to the audience is going to shit, and the ones who are generally more laidback and just joke around because it's no different than when the settings are off when you're playing with friends. Which one do you fall under?

>> No.55036657

>>55036305
>What did kind of surprise me though is how many vtubers are retail wagies.
what you might find extra shocking if you didn't already know is that most of the aspies that are 25+ are pretty nice and normal for the most part, i know at least one works in healthcare and a couple have good white collar jobs. they just dont come around the thread much anymore or they lurk and post sporadically

>>55036594
#2, shit happens, everyone knows it does especially if they've been watching streamers or chuubas at all for any length of time

>> No.55036795

>>55036594
Streaming is not an hobby/occupation for control freaks, if you want to be in control of everything it's better to dedicate your time for youtube

>> No.55037075

>>55036305
If you only stick to the nicest threads and avoid all the catalog retardation, maybe. If not, "far less" would be a big stretch.

>> No.55037442

>>55035504
im a /here/ chuuba and i crossed off almost everything on the normie bingo... what could it mean

>> No.55037792

>>55037442
That you should be a fleshtuber

>> No.55037928

how do i get a viewer to only watch me? desu i really like when he's in my chat and it pisses me off to see him in everyone else's chats and channels.

>> No.55038037

>>55037792
My favorite stupid take

>> No.55038063

>>55037792
sorry i'm too hot to show myself on the camera

>> No.55038206

The fuck. How fucking many of you are in olga's chat rn?

>> No.55038303

>>55038206
I just like supporting my friends

>> No.55038384

>>55038206
>Is Digby
Olga is just entertaining. Hence why I watch

>> No.55038770

>>54974972
Oh boy, do I have a surprise for you!

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don't believe people who preach consistency
you need to shill harder and stats max
my clockwork streaming has resulted in 0 growth

>> No.55039153

>>55038882
Your content probably hasn't and neither has your attempt (if any) at marketing your content outside of regular streaming.

>> No.55039193

>>55039153
*hasn't improved

>> No.55039281

>>55011059
TWO PEOPLE CAME WAGMI

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>>54994973
It was a simpler time

>> No.55039450

>>55038882
Consistency keeps people coming back because they know when to find you but you have to give people a reason to show up in the first place. Both are important.

>> No.55039578

>>55038882
The more charismatic you are, the less consistent you have to be.

>> No.55039610

>>55038206
I have to maintain the illusion that we're friends by watching each other. Support your fellow vtuber! No pressure

>> No.55039827

>>55035557

Chaosfoundry moans like a woman. It may remind you of your wife.

>> No.55040186

i will draw sin now

>> No.55040214

>>55039610
Go back to /wvt/

>> No.55040309

>>55039610
I do that too but half her chat seems to be aspies, lol

>> No.55040922

>>55040309
all aspies chat's are like that, it helps in creating a sense of community while also letting each other viewers find out about other streamers, which is also why most aspies have the same non-streamer regular viewers

>> No.55041357

What aspects or personality traits do you like in male vtubers as compared to female vtubers?

>> No.55041633

>>55041357
funny, good at improv, willing to berate himself but not to the point of sexual harassment or bullying the streamer dynamic, has a "yes and" attitude when engaging with chat, knowledgeable/good at their hobbies

>> No.55041669

>>55041357
they don't fake or embellish their persona as much

>> No.55041743

I did a few practice streams (essentially videos I guess) to fine tune audio and nerves, but I realized my IQ drops by about a standard deviation when I try to play games and fill dead air. Either my gameplay suffers /lengthens or my dead air increases. Any aspies have tips, or is this just a matter of flow state and practice?

>> No.55041816

>>55041743
It's a new thing for you, it takes practice to get used to. Talking to nobody and intentionally rambling is unnatural and takes practice

>> No.55041841

>>55038206
She's the only one that actively goes out of her way to chat/lurk other /asp/ies.

>> No.55041904

>>55041743
it's just a matter of practice, also it will only get worse as you need to pay attention and interact with the chat

>> No.55041920

>>55041633
And what's your expectations in femchubers?

>> No.55041998

>>55041920
nta, that they're willing to deepthroat a dildo while doing asmr

>> No.55042046

>>55041743
You just have to keep doing it. On a personal level, my game sense still goes down a lot during streams, and I've been doing this for years. Consider it an opportunity to generate humor from your mistakes, people like a little self deprecation.

>> No.55042098

>>55041920
my expectation is that they will marry me in the future and carry my offspring in their bellies

>> No.55042151

>>55041743
Practice, but you'll never really be free of it. Splitting attention between chat, the game and entertaining commentary will reduce performance a bit

>> No.55042259

>>55038882
People advocate multiplier logic and you know what 0 is multiplied with any other number.

>> No.55042354

What is entertaining in a commentary anyway?

>> No.55042423

>>55042354
Amusing stories, jokes, making the audience feel noticed and engaged with

>> No.55042450

>>55041920
Cute, doesn't talk about her bf, plays games that aren't turbo casual

>> No.55042454

>>55042354
depends completely on what your audience finds entertaining

>> No.55042736 [DELETED] 

>>55042354
your audience dictates what is entertaining

>> No.55042833

Sometimes I feel like I'm too casual and candid on stream, like I should be playing a character like everyone else.

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>>55018866
>>55040186

>> No.55043230

>>55042833
I don't really get the impression most if any chuubas I watch play a character, or at least not anymore than anyone else does in their day to day life by selectively choosing what parts of themselves to reveal to the world around them.

>> No.55043380

>>55041841
She's also pretty funny with her memes and gets some good vibes into this thread her, so I can see her being pretty well-liked overall. Her ESL is also adorable... Unlike mine T-T

>> No.55043465

>>55042046
Considering I totally suck at games and am kinda retarded, Im counting on this lmao

>> No.55043470

>>55043114
Nice drawing

>> No.55043530

Anyone else just absolutely repulsed by GFE and ASMR?

>> No.55043593

>>55043530
No in the slightest.

>> No.55043613

>>55043530
No, you're just gay

>> No.55043636

>>55043530
I liked Zenya before she became a sell out GFE whore.

>> No.55043695

>>55043636
No you didn't

>> No.55043698

>>55043530
I wouldn't publicly admit to liking it, but...

>> No.55043720

>>55043636
What did you like about her before?

>> No.55043730

>>55042354
I feel like this sort of thing starts to get taken out of context because I have noticed some just go into a random story for no reason.

>> No.55043750

>>55043530
I'm ASMR number one fan.

>> No.55043883

>Streaming to the void and having fun by myself
>look at the viewer number and see that there's five people
>Immediately spill spaghetti
>back to 1 viewer
FUCK. I really should just hide the number, already

>> No.55043947

>>55043720
She was more innocent and pure.
And menhera.

>> No.55044049

>>55043530
If you're into GFE, youre just a loner and mentally unwell desu.

>> No.55044073

>>55043947
Glad to hear she lost your viewership groomersan

>> No.55044200

thoughts on a femboy using a female avatar? i have a decent enough voice i just don't want to seem like i'm being disrespectful to trans or anything..

>> No.55044246

>>55043947
none of that really changed

>> No.55044299

>>55044200
Just make the femboy avatar, you coward. The ones I know haven't been hassled about it.

>> No.55044371

>>55043530
My complaint is that it gets called asmr but rarely actually involves autonomous sensory meridian response. "Girl with cute voice whispers" doesn't fit in an algo searching tag as well

>> No.55044443

>>55044200
Femboys>Babis

Don't be a coward, be a man with CULTURE damn it. Even better if you look submissive and breedable. Look at haru and how he's popping off.

>> No.55044505

>>55044200
Beryl's doing ok with it

>> No.55044768

>>55044200
Do you know where you are?

>> No.55044888

>>55044200
By being a female, you're excluding actual femboy enjoyers who want BOYS and actual female enjoyers since you're actually a male. Male and regular babi are hard enough, but if you feel like going nightmare mode as a femboy babi then go for it.

>> No.55045136

>>55044299
>>55044443
based femboy fans. i guess you're right, it'd be better to just proudly be what i am lol
>>55044505
ty, will check them out :)
>>55044768
i'm more worried about making twitter angry desu
>>55044888
also good points here~ i appreciate the feedback anons :)

>> No.55045228

>>55045136
>twitter

>> No.55045338

>>55043883
Many vtubers do. Even the big ones. No shame in doing that if seeing the number go up and down just stresses you out.

>> No.55045367

>>55045136
Your best bets are to look at what Haru and Beryl are doing. They're both doing very well for themselves.

>> No.55045771

How many big corpos do you think would be able to climb their way back up if they had to start over from scratch as unknowns?

>> No.55045858

>>55043530
Not really, although I suspect that you are in a minority. Most either like it, or are neutral on it.

It's well known that some people just can't enjoy ASMR like others do, for brain wiring reasons. They'll just skip the ASMR streams, unless they are so into the vtuber that even if ASMR does nothing for them, the vtuber RP does.

GFE - well, normies would insta-hate it on the principle, and I don't doubt that some people it rubs the wrong way.

>> No.55045907

>>55045771
Very, very few. They'd have an easier time getting things going, but real talent to entertain is only a thing for the top 1%

>> No.55046356

>>55045771
2/3 of them would be my guess, assuming none of them get completely crushed by the loss, and all of them really try to get into it again. Would be a slog though.

Most will not get to the Holo-tier numbers again, but they'll do well enough to end up rehired by corpos, or keep being indies with solid enough income to go full time.

Their fanbases, connections and any recognition may be perma-gone, entire PL memory holed like it never ever was. But they would still have their skills, experience, confidence and their streaming routines on their side. Talent too, if they had any. But even with no talent, it's a very solid buff.

>> No.55046660

>>55045771
Hint: All of them are/were content creators before getting hired, and they were doing pretty well.

>> No.55047010

>>55046660
You mean corpos don't just hire nobodies like me on just an audition?

>> No.55047047

>>55043530
I've tried to watch asmr streams multiple times and it just bothers me physically.
I am of the opinion that anything a vtuber (or any streamer really) does is G/BFE, because you don't have any control over what someone sees as ideal in a partner. Even if you never do what would normally be considered pandering and just play games, there's going to be someone who stumbles along and thinks "aw yeah, I really want to date a dork who talks about obscure retro games nonstop"

>> No.55047208

>>55042833
Playing a character is a gimmick at the end of the day. If it is a good enough one to catapult you into the 20+ ccv level great, if not it's going to put up a barrier from you creating a bond with your 1 view that you are going to need to gain actual regulars at that level of viewership. In the long term most people lessen how strictly they play their character because it gets in the way of long term viewership.

>> No.55047486

>>55047010
No, that's fucking retarded.

>> No.55047844

>>55047486
Anon...

>> No.55048015

>>55041920
Cute, funny, down to sing for fun, her replies last more than 3 words, has audio gates so i don't hurt my ears when they scream, tastefully sexual (prefer implications over outright "i want dick")

>> No.55048078

>>55047208
It also depends on what that character is. If the character is "is a pilot" "is an alien" "is an owl" then those are entirely workable and viewers can interact with them easily. If I need a manual on your backstory to know what the hell you're saying then I'm filtered instantly

>> No.55048120

>>55043530
I refuse to watch ASMR streams and I find GFE extremely offputting
I wanna watch bros and autistic bros (female), why is that so much to ask for

>> No.55048757

>>55045771
See Coco and Rushia

>> No.55049197

>>55048757
Getting poached by an existing big company isn't exactly the best example of starting from scratch.

>> No.55049306

>>55049197
And even they ended up doing significantly worse starting over with the eventual help of a big corp and the great majority of their fans knowing exactly who they later became. If they were to start over from scratch without their connections and without any old fans they would be far worse off even.

>> No.55049395

>>55049197
>>55049306
This was the point I meant to make. Even people who oshied them dropped them when the character changed and they weren't in Hololive anymore

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